Our Daily Thread 12-20-14

Good Morning!

5 Days!!!! 🙂

Today’s header photo is from Kare.

*It’s now Sunday the 21st, so I believe someone has a birthday today.

Happy Birthday Linda. 🙂

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On this day in 1790 the first successful cotton mill in the United States began operating at Pawtucket, RI.

In 1860 South Carolina became the first state to secede from the American Union. 

In 1879 Thomas A. Edison privately demonstrated his incandescent light at Menlo Park, NJ. 

And in 1968 author John Steinbeck died at the age of 66.

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Quote of the Day

Christmas, my child, is love in action. Every time we love, every time we give, it’s Christmas.”

Dale Evans

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 This one is a request.

And this one is because I like it. From King’s College Choir

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0aL9rKJPr4&feature=player_detailpage ______________________________________________

Anyone have a QoD?

7,368 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 12-20-14

  1. I like the trio of bright blue teapots grouped together in the room. The chrysalises and quilt squares give an added lovely touch.

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  2. A tad crabby here this morning. Somebody came in to complain about somebody else and I cut them off, told them to look to their own challenges and if they did not like the other’s challenges, don’t invite them to work with you. Somebody has been using metal utensils on my non stick pans husband bought for me a couple of years ago. Big long scratches. It was not eleven year old, who does most of the child cooking so that narrows it down to the two twenties.

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  3. Sorry to hear that, Mumsee. I imagine the presence of the two pregnant sisters (and the baby, too, I assume, with his mother?) could be enough to upset whatever equilibrium she may have.

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  4. Actually, the pregnant one (did not bring the seven month old) is off with Tony, visiting the bio grandmother. That is the one Tina hates. Just me and nerves about turning eighteen. Everywhere she goes people make it seem as though turning eighteen is a big deal so now she thinks it is. Scary.

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  5. To me, it was just what it was and did not matter, kind of like graduating was not big deal, just what you did. But to her, she thinks she has to go out and live on her own and she knows she can’t. Scary.

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  6. Oh, that’s sad, Mumsee. Eighteen wasn’t a big deal to me. I knew it was legal adulthood, and at that point it was legal drinking age, but we were a teetotaling household, it wasn’t a presidential election year (I missed it by seven months), and 18 meant very little. I decided at about 16, though, that I would consider myself a woman at 20 and refer to myself as such. (Not that I’d go around saying “I’m a woman, I’m a woman!” but basically that I would refrain from calling myself that until I was no longer a teenager.) I really wanted to be an adult, so that decision turned 20 into a big deal, 18 not so much. It turns out that 20 was a really big year for me–I got a car, and with it the ability to get a full-time job, and also the ability to move out (and so I did). So in some ways I really did become an adult at 20, but in other ways I actually was already an adult for several years. I just understood that people don’t really see 18-year-olds as adults, so I decided to have patience and wait till I was 20.

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  7. Tina wants to be treated as an adult but does not want any of the adult expectations. She does expect other people to give her a job, though she does not qualify for one. She expects to drive, though she cannot do more than one thing at a time and would panic at anything out of the ordinary. She has lots of expectations that she cannot meet. We try to treat her like a seventeen year old, but it is difficult when she acts like a six year old.

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  8. I just wrote a few paragraphs, but then decided to share them one by one to help keep us going. 🙂

    Mumsee – Of course this is not the same, but that somewhat reminds me of my Chickadee (who is 27 now). She thinks of herself as an adult, but as you know, lives with the McKs.

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  9. Oops. That was Kizzie. I guess I have to sign in. That’s never happened to me before, but I did some kind of cleaning to my laptop earlier, so it changed some things on me. I’ll be right back.

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  10. In her case, she has too much anxiety to find a job, let alone keep one. She is not interested in driving. Like your Tina, she would panic at anything out of the ordinary.

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  11. Since the McK daughters, who are adults, too, are also living at home, Chickadee can pretend she is living an adult life as she goes out with them to various places and with their friends. But she is as dependent on all of them as she would be on us if she were here.

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  12. I always feel guilty when I say things like that about her (I’ve only said them here or to Nightingale). Mothers are supposed to “believe in” their children, according to our society. I “believe” and know that she is a very wonderful girl in many ways – she is very intelligent and creative, and very sweet, empathetic, and helpful. But she is not (at least for now) capable of living an actual adult life.

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  13. If she lived with us, we would be helping and encouraging her to take baby steps to eventually live as an adult, as much as could be possible for her. I don’t think she is getting the help she needs where she is.

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  14. I will keep praying for wisdom and stamina for you Mumsee. With two getting ready to leave the nest, it is a daily battle. We will see if Peter Pan, a great name, actually makes it.

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  15. Peter Pan seems to be like Chickadee in that he appears to be basically living with the girlfriend and her parents off the grandparents resources. The family that never grew up.

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  16. Apparently, Tina qualifies for a great deal of help. We are looking at a home in Lewiston (last choice), or if she can stay in an apartment in Nezperce with her caretakers, her needs qualify her to hire twenty four hour seven days a week caretakers. Or if we should do the same thing at home: put her and her caretakers on one side, with us on the other. Either of the last two, the caretakers would taker her to do things, cook with her, etc. Basically keep her entertained and safe. The city home would have four adults to one caretaker.

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  17. We want to do what is best for her but fear we are running out of capacity to help her. If she had a care taker to prevent her from throwing things at us or hurting herself, that would work.

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  18. Mumsee – I don’t know if you meant it this way or not, but I don’t think that Chickadee is purposely taking advantage of the McKs. They are the ones that invited her to come live with them. When she was being paid to help babysit Boy, she contributed some here and there to them. She has certain chores that are hers to do in their home. If she were approved to get that SSI her therapist has her applying for, she would contribute a great deal of that.

    She had about $9000 in the bank that had come from an investment my mom had made in her name, that she received when she turned 18. Considering she talks as if she has no money, I wouldn’t be surprised if she gave that money – all at once or little by little – to them, maybe to help pay for fixing a car or buying another one. (They were always having problems with their old cars breaking down. I don’t think they tried to save enough money for a decent one.)

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  19. A new day has dawned. Son is safely to the Academy, though not without great wailing and gnashing of teeth over his girlfriend. Said he was in a car accident the night before. So, if true, he ought to have some bruising and soreness over coming days but he is there, until he runs away, gets expelled, or completes the course. With one leave over Thanksgiving, which he will not spend here.

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  20. He has left your home. Praying that God will use this time and that he will not just leave. He has this chance, will he take it?

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  21. When will a decision be made regarding the next child? You said that she has several choices. Will you be making the decision or will she, or both?

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  22. Marc has been a runaway since May, when he flunked out of school. But nothing is done for runaways, especially not so close to eighteen. He kept in contact for things he needed (physical for youth challenge, dental for same). He dropped by to pick up the ring he ordered for girl friend. He dropped by to leave the open pregnancy test box. But he does not do as he is told. So, when the Thanksgiving break comes around and they are expected to stay with family for about three days to reconnect, he will not be willing to do so. Nor will I be willing to have him. Remember the incident of the phallic symbol with my name written in it (prison speak for I want to have sex with this person) and the time my underwear was found in his dresser with a used condom? He knows the evidence was found but has never shown signs or words of contrition No thanks. He has a family who has invited him for the weekend Perhaps we will check him out, deliver him to them, and then take him back. We being Mike.

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  23. As to daughter: we have looked at getting guardianship. Perhaps that will be done. Then we will help her decide whether a facility in Lewiston with less watchcare, an apartment in Nezperce with twenty four seven staff paid by her monies which will begin when she is eighteen due to her challenges, or make our home a certified family home, where she can stay with her staff to keep her busy and safe. Mike thinks she would do best here, as far as not getting pregnant. I think, with the right staff, Nezperce would be good. None of us think the Lewiston idea best. She would live with three fifty year old developmental delayed women, and one staff member. Not enough to keep her busy or safe. But we wait to see how much she will actually be getting before we can make final plans.

    She, of course, will not be handed a check for x amount, but will have her apartment rent paid, and the staff paid, and activities paid for, and food paid for, and a small allowance. Several people in and out of the system have advised against letting her leave without us in guardianship as there are too many waiting to get their hands into her pocketbook. This is all because we as a nation have discontinued a lot of the mental health institutional stuff.

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  24. I survived day two of kinder. One child had a bit of a meltdown, but everyone else was fine. Everyone was there today, so 17. I am taking it one day at a time. I am ready for tomorrow. Next week is Open House, then the following week I have to get a village program ready. It may be up to a six week village stay. Good thing that we copy everything ahead of time.

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  25. Turns out an art teacher was not working enough hours so they are having him do four days of forty minute lunch duty. I only have to do duty at one of the gates when students leave for the day. My energy level is lower so it is so nice to have the breaks.

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  26. Is Wendy still with you? Must be nice and a big help to have somebody you have worked with for years helping with all those children.

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  27. Peter Pan is still in the silent first two weeks, not allowed to talk with anybody but staff and then only when asked a question. Should be fun. And lots of pushups and running and marching and school. And a total change of diet.

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  28. No word from him, no word from them, must be still there. Alemio was telling me about the guys in his squad yesterday. Some doing well, some doing okay, some in prison. Choices.

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  29. Jo, it is five and a half months, I presume so they maintain their home residence for insurance purposes. In that five months, they can get through two years of high school if they are motivated.

    It is run by the National Guard, so there is definitely a military aspect. They do lots of exercise and lots of teamwork. They do flag twice a day. They teach them to take care of themselves (laundry, showers, tooth brushing, etc.) . They march a lot, run in formation, etc. Learning that the world is not all about them. They learn something of respect.

    And a lot of the employees are solid believers, they care about these children and their eternity. I pray for wisdom for them as they continue to serve God in this area.

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  30. Praying with you. Wow, the magic birthday is almost here. You have been faithful, but now it is up to him.
    I will go look at the facebook page, tho not the video.

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  31. Well, Marc should graduate from candidate to cadet this weekend as acclimation ends. They can start talking again and all cadets are required to call their parents tomorrow. ATT provided something like twenty phones and minutes for each cadet to call for five minutes. If they don’t call home, we are to report them tomorrow and it will be “rectified”.

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  32. Mumsee, yeah, I still look in on this thread, but often don’t comment on it. Sometimes I’d just rather read than say anything.

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  33. I made an appointment to talk to the principal about the specials they are offering kinder in the afternoon last week. I can’t tell you how thrilled I was to see the final schedule yesterday and to find that she had changed everything to exactly what Wendy and I had suggested. To be heard is so precious.

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  34. They were going to offer three classes each day, I said two is enough and give them some recess in between. so it is now two.
    I said that they did not need art twice as we do it in class, so it is once.
    and I said the school really does not have computer games appropriate for kinder so they have taken computer off the list!!
    Oh, so nice.

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  35. Thigh/hip is still aching a bit, but nothing like it was. Getting much better. Still haven’t been back to the weight room as I am rather scared to go.

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  36. Hiya. 🙂

    I’d tried to answer with a simple smilie…

    🙂

    …and nothing else, but I got a message that I’d already said that.

    Then I tried this:

    😀

    but that wouldn’t go through, either, for the same stated reason. So here I am using dozens of words to describe what should have been a single emoticon reply. LOL. 😉

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  37. Tina ought to be home today. She was wanting to yesterday as they are allowing her to be incredibly bored. They learned to not allow television for these children as it is a reward for contrary behaviour.

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  38. Did I mention Marc actually wrote me a letter from the youth challenge? Thanking me for the letters I had written and saying they had been a big encouragement during the difficult days starting out. Glad to hear it.

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  39. The doc assured us that we should call them immediately if Tina pulls any more shenanigans. He also changed her meds a bit. We will see what the psych says when she sees her on Friday.

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  40. Time for Sunday morning breakfast. I am reading a book by Tessa Asfar (sp?) on Lydia in Phillippi. Okay I can’t spell and am not going to look it up.

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  41. Tina is back in the hospital totally not herself. We visited her tonight and she was very confused and lost in her mind. They started her on a different med. We don’t expect her back soon.

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  42. Tina spent her first night at the new place up in Coeur d’alene. I am praying for protection for her, from the words and actions of the other children there. And wisdom for her workers. And wisdom for us on how to go forward.

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  43. Well, the guy did not fire Tony. He told me Tony worked very well so they got to watch Looney Tunes afterward. Tony loves looney tunes.

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  44. Back from the lawyer, working on legal guardianship. The lawyer said we will need to go for emergency rather than temporary as we are running out of time. As if we didn’t try to get this thing going months ago. But with Tina hospitalized and Mike gone to a wedding in Wisconsin….it is what it is, as they say.

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  45. Got another letter from Peter Pan yesterday. He says he does not know why but he has begun praying for people. The family, the girl friend, other friends. God is working. The veracity of son’s claims is always questionable but I still believe God is working and would not be surprised if son is now praying. I am certain a lot of the staff are praying for him.

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  46. On another note, Tina is considered to be a star patient by the staff where she is. They are seeing the sweet naive side. And are treasuring her. Hopefully protecting her from the other type of patient which is more normal in that sort of facility. May release her as soon as Sunday, which puts me in the driver’s seat as husband is out of state. That is okay, we will do what is needed.

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  47. So now my house needs a new dishwasher. Besides a large amount to take care of a wasps nest, over 200. Then they want 4000 to put in new outside stairs. And the trees that need to be taken out will be 6000. Still waiting for a bid on the woodpecker damage and getting all the acorns out of the attic.
    Somehow I feel like I am living under a cloud.

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  48. Mike was rather disappointed when our renters moved out only about five months into the year long lease. I was not surprised as they had said they were looking for a home to buy and those come up more in the summer. They were nice folk. I have not met the new renters yet. Sounds like about four of them, young people with good jobs.

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  49. We use the sis in law’s people to get stuff done, is my understanding. She has several places she owns so has regular maintenance folk. I hope that makes it more reasonable.

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  50. We had a tornado watch here earlier this evening, and I didn’t even know about it. It has passed now, but thunder is a-rumblin’ as another thunderstorm on the way.

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  51. Although I didn’t realize that we were under a tornado watch, I did remark to myself at one point that the sky looked like one was possible.

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  52. Okay, I see we are still on the Top Posts (or are back on it), so my job is done here for today. I don’t usually pay attention to that, but I know Jo likes to see it there. You, too, Mumsee?

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  53. This is getting funny. I got another email saying they were wrong as I did not need another dishwasher as I only had a leaking hose.
    But there were questions about what I wanted to be fixed from the woodpecker damage. I have not seen it. My friend then sent me pics of the damage and her recommendations. Did no one notice the woodpeckers and realize that they were damaging my home.?

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  54. Need to deal with the stairs too, oh, well, it goes on.
    Almost funny to do all of this from faraway.
    Altho my friend is doing most, I am just paying.

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  55. I have been busy with Sports Day this week. and was so tired afterwards and so tired of all of the noise.
    BUT…. God told me to do one more thing, so I did.

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  56. The principal called me in the afternoon to check on a plan with a new student. Then God told me to invite her to dinner at the Teen Centre. I know that they don’t have much. I had no one to eat with anyway. But, singles or couples can eat upstairs where it is quiet and families stay downstairs. So it meant I had to stay in the noisy place. It worked out well and I have taught all of her children.

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  57. So, my new student. I have been following the quints since before they were born. They are very special and the back windows of my classroom look at their home. I helped out a bit when they first came at close to age two.

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  58. One of them, of course the one that spent the longest in the hospital, , over seven months, needs some more time so is coming to my class. The rest will stay in grade one. I have felt a special connection to this little guy for a long time. My favorite of the two girls is very affectionate and I have gotten some sweet hugs this year.

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  59. So, you might say that God is giving me a dream that I have had to be able to teach him. Almost makes me want to stay here for the rest of the year, just to help him along.

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  60. Kizzie, I came across this thread a couple of days ago, saw that there were no recent comments (five days at that point, I think), and let it drop again.

    Jo, does this mean the other children are being homeschooled, that all five were in your class last year but one is repeating, or something else?

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  61. Cheryl – I was letting it drop, too, for several days. Then yesterday I decided to give it one more try to get the thread on the Top Posts, and if no one comments after that, then that would be the end of it. I think Jo (and maybe Mumsee, too?) likes to be able to access it through the Top Posts link, so I wondered if its absence there was why they were not commenting.

    And it would kinda be a shame to quit so close to 7000. 🙂

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  62. I am sitting here rather bundled up. I have on my warm socks and a sweatshirt with a polar fleece scarf around my neck, oh, and my sweatbands on my wrists to keep them warm.

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  63. You see it has gotten so that if I get chilled in the evening my body gets fidgety and twitchy. Very strange. And finally I just can’t take it anymore and have to go to bed to get warm.

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  64. Must be another symptom or consequence of old age settling in. Of course the fact that there is no heat here makes it difficult. You can only bundle up. No way to influence the temperature. Hmmm, I do have a small fan, but that certainly wouldn’t warm it up.

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  65. Mumsee, it seems that you have four at home now. Three girls and one boy? And one of the girls is older and expecting. It is hard to keep track as so many have come for visits. I am praying for peace. At least in the midst of chaos, there have been a few encouraging words.

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  66. I spent part of my day going through old papers and even booklets. I got a large pile to burn and then took them all out to the burn barrel and burned them. Some were like copies of taxes that I needed to burn. Someone else can be hired to clean, but I needed to burn a bunch of these things. Not things that I wanted others to go through.

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  67. One of our high school classes did a fund raising dinner tonight. But they did it take out so eliminated all of the decorating and serving. I had bought four to treat my friends. I delivered the meals for one couple even though a flight was cancelled and the wife is not home from California. I ordered these meals several weeks ago, so couldn’t just cancel. I went and ate with Joan and saw how she is getting on with her sorting. I was also able to load on her computer a copy of the talk she gave during evening church a month ago. I used the memo function on my phone and recorded it.

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  68. We rarely have totally clear skies, as I’m used to in California for much of the year. That means the view changes even more with the clouds and the fog.

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  69. This view is what I will probably miss the most when I leave here. The ground falls away from my side of the house so I cannot go outside and get the same view that I have from insidel

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  70. So I have been trying to figure out what I could do to be able to get good pictures. I thought of replacing half of a window with a clear pane of glass.

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  71. I mentioned this idea at lunch the other day. Someone said that the louvers are easy to transport and only cost one or two dollars. However panes of clear glass are expensive and very difficult to transport.

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  72. Today I thought about the problem and realized that the real problem is the screen. you can take a picture between the bars and through the louvers, It is the screen that messes up the picture.

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  73. So maybe I could take the screen off of one side of a window. The window in front of me, where I would probably do it, is in two parts. So if I could seal the screen in the middle, I could have one window with a screen so it could be opened safely to keep out bugs. And the other part with no screen so that I could take pictures.

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  74. Doesn’t that sound like a brilliant idea????! Now just to figure out how to do it. I will probably do it after I return from furlough. But I would love to take home with me a collection of photos of my ever changing view.

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  75. Hi Jo!

    On Chrome, you can bookmark the page. There is a little white star on the right side of the . . . I forget what it’s called, but it’s the place where you type in a URL to go to a site. Click on the star and it will bookmark this page.

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  76. Yep, four at home. Jess is twenty two and pregnant. We talked again today about whether or not dad would be involved. He plans to tell his folks in a couple years, after he finishes college but is afraid, if he tells them now, they will stop the money train he has been partying on. Though God put a stop to the partying by allowing him to break his back a couple months ago. He is drug and alcohol tested before they give him the pain meds he needs. Supposedly, his folks are Christians so I would think they would be glad their grandchild is being allowed to live and would want to meet her. Not my call.

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  77. And hopefully, Peter Pan is going to be able to stick this thing out. He is doing well with all A’s but one B in English but he usually starts out well and then gets sidetracked. We will see.

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  78. That’s very selfish of him to not let his parents know they will have a grandchild until he’s out of college. They will miss the baby’s babyhood.

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  79. Rather a restful day here. Melody was too busy reading library books to get up and do the chores this morning so she washed dishes for me instead. Tony is sick so he did all the outdoor chores, ate breakfast, did his math and is off to bed with his library books. Tina is off to gardening club and Jess is doing her CNA homework. That just leaves me doing laundry and cleaning here and there.

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