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Our Daily Thread 10-28-13

Good Morning!

On this day in 1793 Eli Whitney applied for a patent for his cotton gin.

In 1886 the Statue of Liberty was dedicated in New York Harbor by President Cleveland.

In 1904 the St. Louis Police Department became the first to use fingerprinting.

 In 1919 Congress enacted the Volstead Act, also known as the National Prohibition Act.

In 1965 Pope Paul VI issued a decree absolving Jews of collective guilt for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

And in 1976 John D. Erlichman, a former aide to President Richard Nixon, entered a federal prison camp in Safford, AZ, to begin serving his sentence for Watergate-related convictions. 

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Quote of the Day

“I just thank God I can make a living doing something I enjoy as much as I do playing music.”

Charlie Daniels

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Today is Charlie Daniels’ birthday.

It’s also Brad Paisley’s.

And just for fun, here’s the Charlie Daniels Band with Skynyrd, doing an instrumental version of “Freebird” from 1979.

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Anyone have a QoD?

49 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 10-28-13”

  1. The invention of the cotton gin was the worst thing that could happen to the South.

    Good evening Jo.
    Good afternoon Ajisuun and Phos.
    Good morning AJ and everyone else.
    Off to the Y for me and TSWITW.

    🙂

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  2. I guess I must go off to the W here as we call it the weight room. I spent my hour today though. Feeling frustrated. I am looking at flights to come home for christmas. In one day I can get all the way from here to Auckland, provided I make the flights. However every flight i look at to go on from Auckland is taking me back to Australia first. No…., I want to go the other way. Of course this is all sorta hypothetical as I will be flying standby and will not be booking tickets. Though I guess I do book a ticket.

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  3. Good Morning, Y’all!
    Kim and AJ…to be more specific…check your FB messages in the “other” box. Or look for a friend request with the reverse initials of this blog…you too, Michelle!

    Hope you all have a blessed day…
    Gotta love some CDB!

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  4. Good evening, Jo. Good morning, all.

    Here’s a QoD for all the homeschooling folks: What are your favorite educational websites for elementary kids? I’m especially interested in ones that have games that reinforce phonics and math facts. I’ve found a bunch — but would love input as there are so many out there to choose from!

    We will begin our first day of homeschooling at 9:00, after I drop off L. at school. I’m excited, but also a little nervous. I think I’ll feel more confident once I have the curriculum on Thursday. I’m going to officially withdraw Becca from school today. I’m looking forward to it!

    L. did a shadow day at Concordia Lutheran (the high school she will attend next year) Friday. She loved it! She said the girl she was shadowing was super nice and she met a lot of her friends, who were also very friendly and welcoming. L. is so excited about returning to private school in the fall. I’m so glad it went well for her.

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  6. I missed a few days here and it seems I have missed a lot. Today I see Becca is homeschooling. I will have to go back and see why unless you can add a quick update, annms. Homeschooling is wonderful but does, as with all things, have highs and lows.

    Curriculum decisions can take some time, but with homeschooling, if one decision does not work, you are free to drop it and try another. In earlier days I used Mary Pride’s Big Book of Homeschooling to help with curriculum decisions. I don’t know if a currently updated version is available.

    Some things we used were Wordly Wise workbooks for vocabulary, Apologia for science, Saxon for math along with games such as 24, a multiplication board game and Math Wrapups. Rosetta Stone is good for language. There is a good book on doing a classical education program which is great, but I can’t remember the book title or author. Some people really like the online or computer progrsms but I did not want my son sitting at the computer for so many hours. Another math curriculum that we used a bit was Singapore Math.

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  7. We were having lunch yesterday with youngest GD and her husband. Her husband’s job is “Website Design”. I don’t know exactly what that is, but I told him that if he had gone to school at Princeton with Michelle Obama, he could have a $650 million contract. He said he could have done it.

    I could have too. I used to manage systems. Our system was for “Hardcopy Mapping” by ????. The other system was a transition to Softcopy. I don’t know much about that and couldn’t discuss it if I did. But you don’t have to know much about the system to manage it. You have to know what you want and get people who know how to do it.

    We got contractors who had experience in the field. We told them what we wanted and when. They said, “We can do it soon or we can do it right.” We said, “Right, as soon as we can.” You have to set a realistic date and be flexible if there is a reason for change.
    Then, we decided HOW we were going to do WHAT we wanted to do. You set it in wet concrete.
    Then, if any change was made, they would have to submit a RFC. RFC is a Request For Change. There were hundreds, and the important part of the job after that is managing RFC’s. i.e. How will this change affect the rest of the project. We often had TEM’s (Technical Exchange Meetings) to discuss these issues. It’s lots of hard work and requires lots of travel. And a good working relationship.
    But we got men on the moon. And I presume the Hardcopy and Softcopy systems worked. I know the Hardcopy system did.

    We didn’t have a political agenda driving things.

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  8. I can’t answer the question about online games, since that was not an option way back when I homeschooled my daughters. I guess that would be the olden days.

    I did find a good book at my local library with games for math. There are many for phonics, too. We did math games for place value, memorizing facts etc. It is not only a good way to learn them, since they are fun, but a good time to build relationship with your daughter. The computer is a blessing, too, but don’t overlook the value of some good old fashion games you can make and enjoy with Becca.

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  9. Interesting ride home from Las Vegas to Atlanta. I sat by the aisle with my husband in the seat directly in front of me. I was beside a young couple who appeared as if they might be Muslim given the young ladies head covering. I passed a note to to my husband, “I am sitting by two love birds making out. Why me?” I could see my husband’s body indicating a silent chuckle. When the passengers were told to turn off all cell phones and electronic devices the couple had theirs sort of hidden behind a jacket he had hung from the tray latch. They had their heads bent down perhaps in prayer. I wanted to see that they had indeed turned off their phones but it was totally invisible to me. The other thing that happened that raised my antenna was at baggage claim. They had a lot of baggage they got from the revolving collection area. They had two large suitcases each and several other things that looked like computers on wheels. They took all but one which they left sitting on the floor unattended. I was watching it and saw others wondering about it, too. Then the young man came back to retrieve it. We were at the airport at midnight so not so many people were around as usual. I was wondering if this was some dry run preceeding the busy holiday season. I hate to have such a suspicious and profiling type brain.

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  10. Minor correction. It is husband of middle GD, Mary, who is a web designer. Mary is the one who is pregnant.
    Elvera and Linda went in together to buy a car seat for Mary’s shower. Linda bought it and Elvera gave her a check. Linda took a picture of the check and it immediately transferred money to her account. Right there in their LR. It works the same way the ATM does. I use the old system. I walk up to the ATM.
    I don’t know why a car seat should be so expensive.

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  12. We had some sad news over the weekend. My cousin passed away. She was 10 years my senior. She really loved my mother. She had COPD and had elected to not try to fight the inevitable. Our adopted girl in Cleveland had her water break early Saturday morning. She is 6 weeks early. The doctors decided to induce and she was in labor. That is not work so they tried something different. Last night, I got a text message from her that they had given her an epidermal and she was 3.5 cm.

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  13. The conference I attended was Author 101 University. It was excellent! It was good for anyone who wants to learn all about the business side including marketing, avenues for image building, legal issues, and becoming a speaker. It did not include basic writing type classes which was more what I expected. It was great information for the small business owner in general like my husband. Being a writer means having a small business for those who are self-employed. I met some super nice people at the conference. Also, they were doing fundraising for building a children’s village in Kenya and I expect they raised the 25,000 dollar goal.

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  15. Praying all goes well for your daughter, drivesguy. One of our granddaughters was born that early and incredibly healthy. My grandson was also quite early.

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  19. Without the cotton gin, cotton production would not have been so profitable, Cotton would not be king. Slavery would not have been as important. The South would not be a one crop economy, it would have been more diverse and well developed.
    There is, somewhere in Alabama or Mississippi, a monument to the boll wevil. It forsed diversion among the farmere. Cotton was ruining the land.

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  22. For those who have commented you struggle with migraines: this may be a long shot, but my husband found something he liked a few years ago, but can’t seem to find in Indiana. A friend in Ohio has it available where he lives, so he bought a few for my husband, and sent them to us. He told us that when he bought them, the sales clerk told him that they can’t keep them in stock, because people buy them for migraines. They are ginger Altoids. As I’ve just said, not all states carry them, but ginger does have various health benefits (including helping with nausea), so I’m not surprised that they might be helpful for some people. Worth a try, if you can find them. They’re strong, but if you like ginger snaps (as I do), then they aren’t overwhelming. (I’ve always avoided Altoids because I don’t like overly strong peppermint, and my husband says these are stronger than other Altoids. He’s given samples to several people, and some of them find them too strong and spit them out. But for me I really don’t find them too powerful, and I suppose it’s because I grew up with ginger snaps.)

    I have sucked them a couple times when I’ve had a bit of a headache, even a mild migraine, and they do seem to help. But I rarely get really serious migraines, so my own experience isn’t terribly helpful in saying how good they are. Still, to get rid of a headache (even a non-migraine) for me usually means taking one or two Tylenol and lying down for 20 minutes, and taking one of these and lying down seems to have been as effective . . . so it’s worth a try, for anyone who has access to them.

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  23. QoD…For those who believe in a coming Rapture…Do you believe it will be pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib, & why?

    More specifically, I’m looking for reasons to believe in mid-trib. That’s how I lean, but to tell you the truth, I can’t say specifically why. When I’ve read others’ comments defending a mid-trib rapture, they’ve made sense to me. But I’d like to have the reasons & scriptures more firmly in my mind. Or…someone with a different view can try to convince me of their view.

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  24. Ann, I cannot remember the exact name of the book I used for math games. It may have been, Games for Math by Peggy Kaye. I see that book, as well as others are available on the Christian Book website. That particular one for $12.49. You may find it at your local library, too, as I did or they may be willing to order it for you.

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  25. When I unpacked my suitcase that was from Baggage Claim I found a government tract from TSA saying my suitcase was chosen for content inspection. I have not flown since 1996 so what are the odds they would check my one little suitcase? I know that because I look like a WASP and don’t wear a headscarf I am suspect. Also my tummy got a pat down at the Las Vegas airport. Oh, yeah! That’s a heavy lunch I’m packing in there. 🙂

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  26. LOL! It’s Apple’s fault, though they’re happy to help me remedy the situation with something called Keychain–which will preserve all my passwords for me in one convenient place. Still considering it . . .

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  28. Michelle, we use Apple Keychain. It works well, but hubby says that if you’re using it on a mobile device, you should have a password to get onto that mobile device. Otherwise, all good. So far…we’ve been using it for several years.

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  29. Concerning the rapture:
    Hebrews 1
    1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
    2Has in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
    This is how we know things. If you accept the Christ of scripture, can you deny the scripture that proclaims Christ? By what authority do you accept anything?

    Concerning the timing of the rapture:

    In Matt. 24, Jesus tells about the events in times to come. In v. 15, he says the abomination of desolation occurs first.
    In v. 29, He says, ”Immediately after the tribulation of those days…… the powers of the heavens shall be shaken,
    30 And shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, ……..
    31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and he shall gather his elect from the four winds, and from one end of heaven to the other.

    Rev. 10:6, “There will be no more delay! (7) But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.”
    Rev. 6:10f. They (the dead under the altar) were given white robes and wait until their fellow servants were killed.
    Rev. 7:14 They came out of the great tribulation.
    Matt. 24:15 “When you see the abomination spoken of by Danie….

    2 Thess. 2:3 “Don’t let anyone deceive you. For that day will not come until the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition,

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  30. In Daniel 8 The vision starting in V. 1 accurately describes the Medio – Persian empire, and Alexander the Great conquest. It then, in v9, tells about a little horn that grows out of his (Alexander’s ?) empire and becomes great. The desolation and desecration of the sanctuary lasts 2,300 days (?) evenings and mornings. (6.4 years??) perfectly describes the Greek conquest and Antiochus Ephipines. HOWEVER: in the interpretation of the dream, (v.17) Gabriel says this concerns the time of the end. ????
    V. 19f Describes the Greeks and Antiochus. The prophesy of (Antichrist??) appears to begin at v. 23. It appears that Antichrist will arise out of the remnant of Alexander’s empire. This agrees with Shoebat.
    Daniel 7:25 The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.
    This 7 years and 3.5 years, shows up in several places.

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  31. There is no scriptural support at all for the theory of a pre-tribulation rapture. The sermon in Greensboro yesterday was from Rev. 6:9-11. The preacher assumed a pre-trib rapture. He had a terrible time trying to explain v.11 “And white robes were given to them and (told) that they should rest until there fellowservants …should be killed …”

    People who believe a pre-trib rapture have a terrible philosophical problem with those killed during the tribulation. Where did they come from? He said they were Jews who were converted by the preaching of the two prophets.

    I am a heretic in my church> The official view is a pre-trib rapture.
    Most of the professors at Southwestern Seminary when I was there believed the rapture brought the final judgement. And there would be no millenium. Called Amillenialism.

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  32. Its ok Chas. I believe in a Millennial reign of Christ and I am a member of a Amillennial church. I have never been totally convinced in a pre-trib rapture. I do believe that the rapture will take place, but the timing of that event is not clearly evident in Scripture.

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  36. Day four of my moving purgatory ! So far I have managed not to kill anyone. There is still more to do. I don’t remember any of my previous moves bring this hard.

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  37. AnnMS’s QoD for homeschoolers:

    I personally don’t use educational websites for my elementary-age children. I always wonder about using electronics with young children and how it may impact their developing minds, with electronics’ moving, flashing images. In Becca’s case, Ann, computer games might be especially problematic with its excessive visual stimuli, given her visual processing challenges. In my opinion, simple hands-on games, without all the bells and whistles and such of online games, reinforce learning better.

    One of the best and most useful investments I ever made was to buy The Three R’s (for grades K-3), by Ruth Beechick. There are three separate booklets: “A Home Start in Reading”, “A Strong Start in Language”, and “An Easy Start in Arithmetic”. I bought them my first year of homeschooling, and they have been very useful to me all these years we’ve been homeschooling. They contain practical, no-frills games and activities for home-educating parents to use with their young school-age children, and lots of encouragement for parents, too.

    The books aren’t long and overwhelming, but give many good ideas at the same time. I think you would love them!

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  38. I think 2013 is just a bad year for moving easily. I still have pictures yet to hang on the walls; in my Navy days everything was up and in place within three days . . . Of course, I wasn’t hauling all my parents and in-law’s gear around, too . . . which, BTW, my husband has yet to go through . . .

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  40. Thanks, Chas. I figured you’d chime in with good info. 🙂

    For those who are Amillennial, how do you interpret the verses in Revelation 20?

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  41. Concerning Millenium
    Question: You have heard all your life that the Jews were looking for a military/political Messiah. Why? Why were they looking for a deliverer? (See Luke 1:67-73)

    The issue of a thousand years comes from Revelation 20:1f After the battle of Armageddon, Satan is bound and thrown into the Abyss (capitalized in my NIV). That is what some call the Kingdom Age when Christ, the promised Son of David rules the world in justice and peace. The 1000 years is mentioned several times in chapter 20, but not specifically anywhere else.

    However certain things must happen, according to prophesy, which have not happened and could only happen during the rule of a benevolent monarch.
    Psalm 89: David will be their king.
    David, a prince: Ezekiel 34:11-26 “Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
    23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.
    24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.
    25 And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods.
    26 And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing.

    Micah 2:12-13 “I will surely bring together the remnant of Israel.”
    Micah 4:1-5:5 “In the last days…” “They will beat their swords into plowshares and spears into pruning hooks.”
    Ezekiel, 36:24f. “For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land…..”
    Ezekiel , 36: 31. “Then you will remember your evil ways and evil deeds, and you will loathe yourselves for your sins and detestable practices.” , 36:33f
    David shall be king Micah . 23:5-6; “The days are coming” declares the LORD, when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch…”
    Isaiah 9:6-7 “Of the increase of his government shall be no end, upon the throne of David…”
    Read Isaiah Chapter 11:1-10 Read how the wolf and lamb shall lie down together

    But, back to the question.
    They believed their Bible.

    Every time the Jews cried out, “thou son of David”. (e.g. Matt. 20:30), it was an eschatological statement. ,

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  42. Dispensationalism
    Briefly: The theory of dispensationalism began with the writings of John Darby in the early 19th century. It was made popular by C.I. Scofield and his comments in the Scofield Bible. Many believe his notes are part of scripture. Probably not so much in a more educated society.
    It basically assumes that the letters to the Seven Churches in Revelation 2 are seven different dispensations of the church. I see this primarily as a way to get to the seventh church, Laodicea. Laodicea is the “lukewarm” church which Christ will spew out of his mouth. That’s us. Neither hot nor cold. And it fits.
    However, describing the previous dispensations don’t really fit.

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  45. This is an excellent book that fairly — and without bias — examines and compares the various eschatological positions found within orthodoxy.

    It includes how the different viewpoints interpret various Scriptures (in helpful side-by-side charts); where the views diverge from one another but also on what all Christians agree upon, mainly that Christ is coming again.

    Guide to End Times Prophecy

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  46. I hover somewhere between amillennialism and postmillennialsim.

    But I think it’s really important for Christians to examine all the positions that the church has held through the years (some become more prominent in different times than others — dispensational premillennialism has been pretty much the popular rage for years now, to the extent that some Christians don’t even realize there ARE other viewpoints that are grounded in Scripture).

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  47. Guess my book recommendation post (above my last post) is awaiting “moderation” — The Rose Guide to End-Times Prophecy. ($13 at Amazon and Christian book.com)

    Well worth buying to get a good grasp on how the different millennial views have interpreted the key Scriptures.

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  48. Hard day today, with some things I wasn’t expecting, but the day ended much better having a nice quiet talk with hubby. Tomorrow we’re going to work on decluttering and cleaning the utility room together if it rains, or going to cut wood together if it doesn’t. Third and Fourth Arrows can manage Fifth and Sixth Arrows so hubby and I can spend more time together tomorrow. We’re both burning out, regularly doing so many things separately from each other.

    We might even work in the shop together on vehicles. Hubby’s trying to decide whether I’m more of a transmission person or an air conditioning person. 😉 I told him none of the above.

    Maybe some day I can change my answer on that one. 🙂

    You all have a good day tomorrow.

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  49. From the book — the 3 essential truths that Christians all believe:

    1/ Jesus will return to earth in bodily form at some point in the future
    2/ Jesus will judge all humanity
    3/ God will physically resurrect all humanity at some point in the future

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