104 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 11-24-12”

  4. GWTW, will probably be considered the greatest.
    I liked “Bud Abbot and Lou Costello meet Frankenstein”, but it will likely not make the cut.
    I saw “Belle Starr” twice. The first technicolor western I remember seeing.
    Not really western, it took place in Missouri, but the same thing. I didn’t want Gene Tierney to get killed. The real Belle Starr was not that pretty.

    Busy day for us today.

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  5. The Times-News always has a QoD. The one this morning asked, “Do you have a lot to be thankful for?” Four percent said “NO”. Fortunately 98% of us have a lot to be thankful for.
    The Christmas lights are on downtown now. Most of us still say “Christmas” in Hendersonville.

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  8. More wet fog here this morning. It’s still dark but I’ve already wheeled the trash cans out into the street for our day-late pickup due to the holiday. I can hear the constant drone of the harbor fog horns in the distance.

    Are more retailers now using “Christmas” in ads? Seems to me the politically correct swing toward the all-encompassing “holidays” terminology (“holiday tree”? Really?) may be relaxing a bit.

    Walking the dogs last night I noticed a couple houses had their Christmas lights up, so pretty. Seeing Christmas lights never gets old for me, it’s just such a beautiful time of year.

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  9. You see on Drudge that there are stabbings, riots and stealing in the stores and malls. That is appropriate for “holiday” shopping, but not ‘Christmas” shopping.
    It happens more as you securalise the culture.
    There’s no such thing as a “holiday spirit”.

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  11. KBells, what are you fixin’ fer this Holiday?

    Q’s of the Day?

    Yes, I DO have a lot to be thankful for.
    Gone With the Winds deserves to be one of the greatest movies of all times. It was four hours long and had an intermission when shown in the theaters. It was a great cast of characters and a story of triumph. It almost received an X rating for Rhett Butler’s famous line.
    It would never be made now and it won’t make the cut for greatest picture because it is not politically correct. The White People are on an apologetics tour these days and it isn’t politically correct to like stuff like this.

    I have stumbled across a show on History Channel 2 called Decoded. The other night the show was about Mount Rushmore being a show of White Supremacy. The sculture Gustav Whatever was a member of the KKK. People need to realize the times in which these people lived. You cannot judge the actions of a man who lived in the late 19th and early 20th Century by standards we have in 2012. Interestingly enough, on the same channel was the True Story of the First Thanksgiving.

    Yesterday, we went to the theater to see Lincoln. I thought it was an excellent portrayal of a human being who though flawed was the leader of the United States at a crossroads. There were certain parts of the movie that made tears well up in my eyes. Among the worst of things that could have happened to the former Confederate States of America was for this man to have been killed. Reconstruction would have looked a lot different and they country could have healed a lot faster. I found it interesting that in the movie there was no mention of Vice President Johnson and his hatred of the South.

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  12. Chas- I caught your mistake right away. But you are correct that most average people would not even notice. That is how the MSM and Democrats have pulled the wool over the public’s eyes for a long time now.

    As for the greatest movie of all time, that is always subjective. If one likes drama, one will pick a drama like “Gone with the Wind”. If one likes adventure, then an Indaina Jones flick would suffice. Some would choose one of the Bourne or Bond series. Another would choose something in the LOTR mode. So really, this QoD is going to have many different answers. So to rephrase it: What is your favorite movie of all time? My answer is multiple, based on several genres:
    Musical: “Fiddler on the Roof”
    Thriller: “The Birds” (I’ll have to find that one and watch it again. We’ve had a lot of starlings in the trees around here, and it is beginning to remind me of the closing scene.
    Sci-Fi: “2001 A Space Odyssey”
    Drama: “Inception” (current favorite)
    Comedy: One of the original Pink Panther movies with Peter Sellers, but can’t remember the title. It has been so long since I watched any of them, they run together in my mind as one movie.

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  13. Kim, since Hubby is working and I have the Kid all to myself to guide towards the path of goodness and Crimson, we will be having anything he wants. 🙂

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  15. How is this for a question of the day: What is your favorite family memory from 2012?

    I have several, but these are definitely near the top: one stepdaughter calling me to wish me happy Mother’s Day, and last night (after we decorated for Christmas) watching a Christmas movie (Mircale on 34th Street) as a family and then spending three hours sitting together at the table and talking. (I wouldn’t have guessed it was three hours; my husband said it was.)

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  17. Both the AMC and imdb sites rank Shawshank Redemption as the top movie of all time. Imdb was fan voted and GWTW was nowhere to be found whereas AMC ranked it 8th. The original Matrix, Blade Runner, Fight Club and Apocalypse Now are some movies I will watch over and over. I can’t say that for many others.

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  18. The Shawshank Redemption was one of Chuck Colson’s favorite movies and I have tried, over and over, to watch it but just can’t get past the language. FWIW, I like another Stephen King prison movie, The Green Mile, very much and have never figured out why it is rated R.

    I decided one day my favorite movie would simply be Singing in the Rain. What can I say, apparently I’m a romance novelist . . .

    Speaking of which, here’s my take on being thankful in the hard things: http://wp.me/p1ektw-K1

    We’re leaving in a bit to go car hunting for our college daughter. We’ll either buy an old Honda, or get a feel for what she wants, then she and I will get in my car and drive to Santa Barbara.

    My uncle was to have celebrated his 80th birthday this week; instead he died three weeks ago and so we’re gathering to remember his life. I got the task of putting together a power point and have spent most of the last week since I finished writing my latest romance novella, scanning family photos.

    It’s been bittersweet. So lovely to see them all again, so awful they’re all gone–and now I’m crying . . .

    Anyway, my original intention was to spend the night in Santa Barbara and then catch the train to Burbank on Sunday for the event. I was really excited–I haven’t ridden an American train in 15 years, at least!

    But it’s cheaper, faster and more efficient to rent a car at the Santa Barbara airport and drive it to 100 miles to the Burbank airport than to take the train.

    Ridiculous.

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  19. OK, not best ever, but some of my favorites through the years:

    “Babe.” 🙂 Only partially kidding, I love that movie.

    But GWTW is a classic; “To Kill a Mockingbird” is another standout. Scout. 🙂

    “Witness” — that one made me want to run away and become Amish. Especially if a Harrison Ford might come stumbling into the community.

    The first “Jurassic Park” (what a fascinating — but frightening — concept; reminiscent of the whole “Frankenstein” theme).

    “Raiders of the Los Ark,” of course.

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  20. And I’m a sucker for Disney’s Pixar films — Finding Nemo; Toy Story (just caught #3 the other night); Bolt (which I caught for a 2nd time just the other night as well, I seem to be camping on the Disney channel lately); Up; Cars …

    Haven’t seen “Brave,” but I noticed it’s being offered this month as part of our cable demand channel so maybe I’ll catch that one night in the next week or so.

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  21. “The Shawshank Redemption” is on my list. Michelle, a prison movie would sound pretty silly with harden criminals saying things like, “gosh, golly, darn you”.
    🙂

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  23. The only Pixar movie I didn’t care fore was “Cars 2”. I’m not sure it works to take your breakaway goofy sidekick and give him his own movie.

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  25. Sight and Sound Magazine just replaced Citizen Kane with Vertigo as the best of all time. I like Vertigo, but I would go with The Searchers. It is John Ford’s masterpiece and by far John Wayne’s best film.

    Like Chas, I loved Belle Starr. It is more politically incorrect than GWTW and Gene Tierney is much prettier and more staunchly Confederate than all the GWTW girls.

    Peter, Perhaps you were thinking of A Shot in the Dark. It is my favorite comedy.

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  26. Ah yes, I love Hitchcock also — a master.

    And “Charade” was a fun movie (with a nice theme song).

    “A Shot in the Dark” was hilarious.

    Don’t know that I’ve ever seen The Searchers.

    And I don’t know that I ever saw Cars 2.

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  27. Vertigo was too confusing for my simple mind. Cars never made any sense to that same simple mind.

    My real favorite is Shakespeare in Love because it reminds me of my first year of marriage . . . 🙂

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  29. I posted this on FB but I will ask all of you.

    How many bath towels does one (three person) family need?

    I am on a major cleaning spree and have a box full of clothes hangers to take to Goodwill. Now I need to sort through mis-matched sheets and towels)

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  34. We have more, but we really only have six in the rotation at any given time. Three being used, and usually only three in the hamper/washer/dryer. Every now and then I get behind on laundry and we’ll need to pull out one more set (or if we have company).

    Which reminds me I have a load of laundry to swap out…

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  37. Towels, need? One. Though, if they choose to wash one when they do their laundry, they may have their own. And they are each allotted one beach towel for going to the pool or the river or whatever. So, we have approximately thirteen out with four in the guest room. And a large tub of them put away because certain people were disregarding the one towel per person rule and taking a fresh one every day, leaving the wet one in the pile of kitchen towels so I would have more laundry. No, no, you don’t understand, one towel per person if you take care of it yourself.

    We also check out toilet paper but that is an entirely different issue.

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  38. Poor little black hen pecking and scratching by herself. The three older grey hens come out for a bit but then hide inside so they can evade the hawk that got the other black hen. I presume that none of you are falconers training chicken hawks to hunt our hens. Well, hawks eating chickens are part of nature.

    At the gym, yesterday. “I moved to Whidbey in 1972 and bought a farm. I bought some bantam chickens. They ran into the woods and laid eggs. [There must have been a rooster present.] The hens hatched and raised babies. They roosted in the trees. Every night we heard squawks as the owls pounded on chickens.”

    Some people out here worship nature. Cell phone coverage is very erratic on Whidbey Island. One of the phone companies is going to build a cell phone tower on a nature preserve. People who live nearby are very upset; offering to spend $250,000 to buy the land where the cell phone tower will be built to prevent it being built.

    I understand their love of nature (and we try to keep our 5 acres in the woods pretty natural), but if I have (or come across) a medical emergency on the island, I would like to be able to use my cell phone to call 911. Well, people lived without cell phones for thousands of years. Jesus didn’t have a cell phone. He could not call 911. “I’m nailed to a cross. Send police and an ambulance to get me down and patch my wounds.”

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  39. 🙂 It’s over. Everyone had a nice time, ate a lot, and now they’re gone.
    Except for Polly. She stays and helps Elvera clean. They work around and talk and talk. That’s probably their favorite part.
    Me, I’m going to rest a while, put some stuff away and watch the Carolina/Clemson football game.

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  40. I really liked “Shawshank Redemption,” enough to buy it, and honestly I don’t even remember the “language.” It has been several years since I’ve seen it. (I don’t like movies with hard language, but it generally isn’t on my list of “reasons to avoid a movie,” like nudity, heavy violence, or sex. But I thought the “King’s Speech” language issues distracting, and don’t remember this one being so.)

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  41. A friend with nine children assigned everyone a color and it went for towel, washcloth, glass, bowl and plate. That way when she saw, say, red items lying around she knew Daniel was the one who needed remedial assistance.

    Still chuckling at the parallel universe!

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  42. Got in this morning for a long overdue haircut. Does that feel better. It’s still longish, but she took off a good inch, clipped up the layers and gave it some shape.

    They were decorating the salon while I was there, hanging big, beaded styrofoam balls from the ceiling. They were making good progress when I left (I’m usually in and out there quickly, just a wash, cut & blow dry for me; but I promised her I wouldn’t wait so long in between appointments next time.) 🙂

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  43. In my opinion, John Ford and Alfred Hitchcock were the best movie directors of all time. Both dealt with a wide variety of extremely mature subject matters. Their movies did not contain nudity or bad language.

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  44. Parallel universe was pretty funny. My stylist and her husband (no kids of their own) have taken in her 8th-grader niece to live with them so it’s always interesting to get the ‘Destiny’ updates each time I’m there.

    Sounds like they’re doing well, but as you can imagine, it’s a challenge with that age and everyone being in a very new and different environment, figuring it out as they go.

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  45. I have a tendency to use things until they are falling apart. This is my father in me. If it is possibly still useful, then why would I get rid of it? (I’m working on it, really. And, having a lot of my mother in me too, I will generously give as well, so long as I think someone will want it. So, I’m constantly at war with myself!!)

    That being said, I cleaned out the towels this last summer, because we had too many. I finally got some new towels for the kids. I did two towels per person, with a few extra thrown in for good measure (i.e. guests, a week when I didn’t get to laundry as I should, etc.) Plus, I honestly think a few other towels sneaked in there too, so I think we’re really more like 3 towels per person with a few left overs. 🙂

    Unfortunately, the old towels are still sitting stacked on the dryer. They are not good enough to give away, but they make great spill cleaners, wet dog dryers, and floor coverings for wet swimmers to walk on. But, where do I put them??????

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  46. Greatest movie of all time: probably one I haven’t seen. 😉

    I don’t often watch movies on TV or DVD, and it’s even rarer for me to see a movie in a theater. My (future) husband and I did see Flash Dance on our first date eight days after we met, so that movie (and music), if not great, is certainly memorable to me because of the company I was in! 🙂

    Favorite family memory from 2012 was having all eight of us gathered around the table at Thanksgiving. And 6th Arrow commenting about the pop-up indicator in the turkey, “Why is there a nail in the turkey?” 😀

    Towels: we have 16 bath towels, so I guess that’s two per person for when all eight of us were at home. 2nd Arrow didn’t take any of those with her, but received 2 or 3 more as gifts when she was moving out. We also have a few old, thin beach/bath towels that we fold and use as floor mats to step onto when getting out of the shower. I’m too cheap to buy actual bath mats. 😉

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  47. My cousin and I are going to a movie later this week — any recommendations for current films that are out now? (She’s already seen “Lincoln.”)

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  48. Michelle,

    I rented The Shawshank Redemption from Blockbuster years ago and I felt the same way. The language was just too jarring, and I just couldn’t stand it over and over again in just the first ten or fifteen minutes of the movie. A year or two later, though, I saw that the movie was showing on network television, so I VCRd it (the only option at the time since this was long before we had DVD, and probably before it was even available.) The film was edited for network TV, so I got to enjoy it without all the jarring language. And I really liked it.

    I wish edited versions of good films were more readily available. Right now, I’m intrigued by a movie that’s out starring Denzel Washington called Flight. I don’t know of anyone who’s seen it, but it looked really interesting based on what I read about it. Since it was rated R, though, I went to Plugged In online to check it out and, sure enough, it sounds like the coarse language is peppered all throughout, so I’m afraid I’ll hate watching for that reason. I could deal with a few swear words here and there, I suppose, but when it’s nonstop, I just can’t stand it.

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  51. Saw Lincoln today. My only dislike is the language. I don’t think Lincoln would have used God’s name when swearing, if he swore at all. Otherwise, a great movie.

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  53. Ree, maybe the version that made it to VCR was the edited version, then–because if the language was that vivid, I’m sure I would have remembered it. (I really don’t like needless bad language in a movie, but sometimes it is “realistic,” and bad language has simply never been a temptation for me, nor is it likely to stay in my mind, so I’ll watch a movie with “language” issues if there are no other issues that give it a strong rating.)

    Peter, Lincoln actually had quite a reputation for earthy and coarse language; whether he was known for misusing God’s name, I really can’t remember, but he wasn’t a “gentleman” by today’s standards, from what I’ve read. (Not at all refined.) I haven’t read much about him in recent years, but I’m completely unimpressed with the man, and would rank him as one of our worst presidents. (Well, what kind of language he did or didn’t use isn’t very important in his list of errors, but it definitely is part of who he was.)

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  54. Second Arrow reported today that her 12 1/2-hour Black Friday shift went fine. There was the initial rush of shoppers at 5:00 am when they opened the store, but not overwhelming — some stores in the area had opened at midnight, so that probably cut down on shoppers out at 5:00. Overall, the day wasn’t bad at all.

    It was about one year ago that she started working for this chain of stores. She got trained in, then Black Friday last year was her first day working the cash register on her own. I remember she didn’t have to work until later that day, so at least she didn’t have to deal with the big opening rush on her first day cashiering solo!

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  57. Ricky’s QoD: There is no such movie. Just like it is impossible to say what is the greatest painting or musical composition. That being said, I sometimes amuse myself by trying to choose the greatest (or the favorite) from each decade. The list sometimes changes as I find more movies:
    1920s – The Kid (Charlie Chaplin), The General (Buster Keaton)
    1930s – Modern Times (Charlie Chaplin), The Adventures of Robin Hood
    1940s – Twelve O’Clock High (Gregory Peck), All About Eve
    1950s – Julius Caesar (Marlon Brando & John Gielgud)
    1960s – To Kill a Mockingbird
    1970s – Fiddler on the Roof
    1980s – Chariots of Fire
    1990s – Searching for Bobby Fischer (Even though the 90s is the decade I grew up in, I probably have seen the least movies from that era)
    2000s – Master and Commander, The Queen, Amazing Grace
    2010s – Well, the jury is still out – but so far: Hugo, The King’s Speech

    I try to avoid profanity and crude language in films, just because, as a verbal learner, it stands out to me pretty strongly and generally gets stuck in my mind – for the few movies that I like that have some, the mute button is a wonderful tool.

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  59. Driving south on 101 yesterday, we encountered an accident not far from Monterey where the four-lane freeway dips into a narrow valley with few auxiliary roads off.

    The accident was in the northbound lane, but as the lanes were divided by a waist-high cement barrier, at least one fire truck was on our side of the freeway.

    We’d been making excellent time, but this slowed us by about half an hour.
    Rubbernecking is really aggravating.

    The other side was a different story. I clocked the odometer once we got past the accident and the stopped traffic stretched for 8 miles.

    I can’t imagine how long it took them to get through . . .:-(

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  60. Chariots of Fire is definitely worthy of the list.

    And Roscuro reminded me that I have yet to see Amazing Grace. It’s been on my want-to-see list forever. It’s got to be available online somewhere for free or close to it by now, right?

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  63. KBells, I hope your husband was well enough to enjoy a great game. 😉
    Does he work for ESPN?

    We were shown “Twelve O’Clock High” at the Naval War College. It tells about a commander who becomes too emotionally involved with his men.
    A great movie. As was “Midway”. We also watched “A Bridge Too Far”.

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  64. My screen saver/Home page is a picture of Elvera I took on our honeymoon.
    Yesterday, I was showing it to 4-year old Addison. I told her that it was Nana when she was a young woman.
    She asked, “Why isn’t her hair gray?”
    I also showed her a picture of her grandfather taken in 1960. He was wearing diapers. She couldn’t comprehend that.

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  65. Uganda. May God continue to work there. And may our brothers and sisters be strong in the strength of the Holy Spirit. And may we watch and learn.

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  69. Ricky, my family didn’t get a VCR until I was about 6 or 7. The first movie we watched was the Adventures of Robin Hood, so it has always had a special spot in my favorites. My father knew his movies, and he introduced us to classic after classic.
    I forgot to put High Noon in the 1950s category.

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  71. Happy, whatever. (As far as I know, there is no holiday today. When will we [atheists] get our own national holiday? Perhaps on that holiday (on a Sunday, naturally), everyone will be forbidden to got to church.

    Perhaps it should be called, “National Drama Queen” day.

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  72. Michelle,

    Think of rubber necking this way: what if no one cared enough about their fellow man to be concerned with what had happened and just drove by at speed?

    I read that somewhere once, and it completely changed my view on rubbernecking, because it is so true. Rubbernecking shows that we are interested and we care. NOT looking, would show a very strong callousness and a disregard for a fellow human being in a sad situation.

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  75. We went to see Life of Pi today. It was good. A very interesting story. Some of the theology you may not agree with but it did lead to a very funny line in the beginning of the movie. Pi is praying over his meal and says Amen. His guest questions him about it saying, “I didn’t know Hindus said Amen”. Pi replies, “Hindu/Catholics do. Most people only feel guilty in front of one God, I can feel guilty in front of thirty thousand gods.”.

    I also discovered today that a man can help decorate a Christmas tree. He can put lights on for you and he can hang ornaments. I have never before encountered such a man. My tree is a skinny little 6 or 7 ft pencil tree with too many lights and too many decorations on it, but it works. It isn’t worthy of the cover of Southern Living like some of my past trees have been, but it still works. I put out three of my nativity sets. I put out the big Seraphin collection with palm trees, creche, Mary, Joseph, Baby Jesus, fences, cows, sheep, etc. for the first time since 2003. I could not find the camel.

    All in all life is pretty good.

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  78. Okay, so I enjoy listening to Christmas music all year round though I do let it go for a bit from Feb through August. But having the tree up in November? What in the world?

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  79. Ditto Mumsee.

    I refuse to do it until at least Dec. 1st. because Christmas is in Dec., not Nov.

    Decorate a turkey if you need something to decorate in Nov.

    What’s next? Easter candy for Valentines Day? You’ve got to draw a line somewhere or these people just get crazy.

    🙄

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  81. Chas, Hubby works for a production company that rents it’s trucks out to ESPN and other Networks. As an engineer, he comes with the truck. He seems to be feeling better. He has a Doctors appointment tomorrow.

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  83. This year is tricky because Thanksgiving fell a tad early, we have more of the month left than usual. Seems a little early to buy a real tree, but the selection is certainly good, I’m sure.

    Friends posted a photo of their tree and it’s amazing — the fullest tree I’ve ever seen, downright FAT, probably 5-6 feet tall. Gorgeous.

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  84. Rickyweaver, that was in reference to Donna’s 11:35 story.

    Christmas trees are not supposed to go up until Christmas Eve. But, as I am married to an early tree person, we compromise.

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  87. Our current plan is to take a couple of days in December, drive north for a couple of hours, park the car and walk. Walk through the woods about a mile, up hill, in snow that may be a foot to several feet deep. Then look for the perfect tree, cut it, bring it down to the truck. Then drive home again. It will have the snow knocked off and dry for a few days, then come inside to be made to stand up again. Lights will be attached, then ornaments. Gifts will arrive. We will enjoy the tree. In a couple of weeks, it will go back outside to give the juncos shelter, with little food things added. The cats will like that. Then it will move on to the burn pile. All because our sixteen year old has never decorated a real tree other than the one we got in a hurry from a store last year.

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  88. We’ll be going out to get a natural tree too, Mumsee. But not until both kids are home. I like the natural trees best, not the manicured full ones – ornaments don’t hang nicely if the tree is too full.

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  90. Yes, I remember reading that — Christmas trees “magically” went up overnight on Christmas Eve so everyone could wake up and find it when they walked into the living room (or whatever room).

    Nice idea, but pretty impractical for many people obviously.

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  92. YouTube is the ultimate “rubbernecking.” You can look at thousands of disasters of every possible flavor and nobody sees you looking and you seldom cause accidents yourself (unless you can’t resist the impulse to log on and leave a stupid or offensive comment. It’s like driving by a real accident with tinted windows.

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  93. Christmas trees? Who wants that pagan symbol in a Christian house? (JK, as my daughter says). We don’t put one up because we are rarely home on the day. And we would rather not go to the expense and trouble. I like a well, but not overly decorated tree.

    As for the music, give me the hymns or Christ-based songs, and spare me the 20th Century ditties with their awful tunes and tacky, sappy lyrics. I guess I won’t be listening to the radio for a while.

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  94. I read three chapters of Heretics by Chesterton tonight. He is growing on me a bit (though not so far moving me closer to belief, though that is Christ’s job, I suppose. You don’t suppose that Christ falls down on the job?) Anyway, I am looking up obscure or forgotten references relevant to 1902. And will report . . . well, whenever I get around to it, assuming I stay alive that long.

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  98. No thanks to God, I guess:

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/23/obama-thanksgiving-address-calls-to-unite-behind-wh-doesnt-thank-god/

    Random, Christ definitely doesn’t fall down on the job. He’s not waiting for you, wringing his hands. The choice isn’t yours.

    If he’s called you as one of his own, you will hear his call at the appointed time. And you will not be able to resist. Kicking and screaming, you will come to him. 😉

    It’s his call. Not yours (or ours). Either he’ll call you. Or he won’t.

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  99. I should rephrase that a bit — either he HAS called you (from the foundations of the earth) or he hasn’t. You’ll know (at the appointed time) if that’s the case.

    Best Christmas music on the radio is found on Satellite — the pops channel — which plays a rich array of classic and very old Christmas hymns, carols and other pieces.

    Beautiful stuff.

    And I love Anonymous 4 when it comes to the ancient carols & chants for Christmas:

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  100. Random,

    I’m going to politely disagree with Donna. It’s no secret that I don’t care for Reformed theology. 🙂

    And, since I am (after much further study) now leaning toward the Blessed Hope (Restitution or Christian Universalism), I think that God’s gonna get you sooner or later, and that you won’t even be kicking or screaming when it finally happens. Just grateful and happy.

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