Poor Walz, to have that news released in such a timely moment!
I am glad and not surprised to see Georgia in the top ten. Kemp has been good on the state level.
Son was very surprised when buying gas in South Carolina, Tennessee, and Georgia during the past week. Atlanta had the lowest gas prices which has never been the case. Kemp has again taken off the gas tax because of the hurricane.
I just saw a youtube ad of Kamala asking for money, saying she’s the underdog in several swing states. This does seem to be a close race. How different the country might look in 4 years depending on who wins. How different the world might have looked if Trump had prevailed in 2020.
I have been watching interviews and podcasts this past week, as i like to see what the candidates really said, not just what the media says they said.
I have been impressed with Vance, as he attempts to answer the full question.
In my view, Kamala is a series of sound bites strung together that don’t even make sense. I am quite sick of hearing “now let me be clear”.
The covid test kit thing and Putin…what am I missing? We were inundated with them. Do you have any idea how many boxes were discarded because they expired? Have you never heard the saying “keep your friends close, but your enemies closer”?
I was disappointed in Trump’s interview with Dave Ramsey. Should have been a slam dunk, but he did not answer the questions.
Last week, I wasn’t describing my position on abortion rather the position of those on the pro-choice side who don’t view a fetus as a human life. Based on that premise, their position is logical. My own position has very little logic, is confusing, convoluted and any attempt by me to outline it usually ends with “glad I am a middle aged man because I don’t know what I’d do”.
I don’t hate Trump. Hate is a strong emotion which requires a lot of energy, which I refuse to use. I find him annoying. I’ve commented less in the past year simply because I don’t want to waste the energy. I dislike the way he (and others like him) have dehumanised their opponents, migrants, the poor, the mentally ill, etc. We are all human and need to look after each other. The political discourse throughout the world is littered with hate, dehumanisation, and a lack of basic caring. It’s tiring and annoying. The US is not alone in that regard. Trump is part of this discourse – I don’t hate him but i hate what he (and others) have brought to the public discourse.
Debra – you asked a very good question last night – would Vance at the top of the ticket make a difference for some people? It wouldn’t for me but that’s not a surprise. Vance to me has forgotten the cardinal rule of those who rise above their class – don’t forget where you came from. His eagerness to protect and campaign for Trump and his use of misleading if not false soundbites from social media should worry people. He seems too eager to please anyone who can bring him to the top. Unfortunately he doesn’t have much of a public service record so its hard to judge what he would bring to the table or do differently.
There is however an interesting Lincoln Project ad which is directed at Donald Trump suggesting Vance is a Trojan horse. It describes a scenario where Trump will win and then Republicans will invoke the 25th Amendment to put Vance in charge. They are trolling of course but its an interesting idea.
From what I understand the covid test kit was not the cheap simple ones you got from your local drug store but hospital standard laboratory equipment. In the early days of the epidemic they were in short supply everywhere and Trump sent some to Russia instead of using them at home. That’s the allegation anyway. Hence not America First Putin First rhetoric you see on some sites.
Starry Starry Night!!!! This chorus is rather fitting for her I suppose:
Now I understand What you tried to say to me And how you suffered for your sanity and how you tried to set them free…
In an interview with Roland Martin, Harris was asked about Donald Trump’s focus on crime in cities with significant Black populations. Now, a straightforward answer would have been too easy, right? Instead, Harris served up a galactic metaphor, saying, “If you just look at where the stars are in the sky… look at the constellation—what does it show you?”
Debra, re your question last night on Vance: Who knows?
He’s (very) green and has a lot of growing to do before I think he’d persuade many. He’s made some blunders early on with the ‘cat lady’ remarks he only would double down on when given opportunities to explain it better; he turned in a fairly good debate performance w/Walz; he refuses to state a position (awkwardly and repeatedly) on the 2020 election results.
He strikes me as young man in a hurry, thus the enthusiastic embrace (after stating contrary opinions) of Trump.
So I guess the answer is – Don’t know, we’ll see.
He either grows and matures – or he doesn’t. If Trump loses, he could have a tough time carving out his own independent path and may simply vanish.
But again, we’ll see, way too soon to get a real feel for him as a leader on his own terms (without the Trump baggage).
There’s a broken party that will need some healing and a serious reboot.
I do remain skeptical of Vance, however. He needs to get some kind of a record behind him before he’d be a player at the top level, I think. As I said, he’s a young man in a hurry.
HRW I appreciate your post concerning your view. Of course I don’t exactly see it the same way but I do try to understand other’s take on matters even if it makes not a lot of sense to me.
Insofar as Trump dehumanizing others I see it quite differently.
And the fake story of his making fun of the
disabled/mentally, physical or otherwise… it simply was a twisting of what happened by our national media propaganda. Illegal invaders have an opportunity to apply and come to this country legally. They choose to break our laws and benefit on the backs of our taxpayers. We cannot provide for the citizens of the world especially when they begin their journey here by breaking our laws. But lo and behold this administration rewards their disregard for our laws. He’s not being cold hearted and demeaning towards them…he is attempting to establish law and order once again.
I’m more interested in someone who can bring the conservative movement back together after this period ends (and it will end but maybe not real soon). The GOP has lost a limb or two, at least, and members need the wisdom to effectively deal with that — otherwise, it’ll be split and limping for some time to come.
If Vance can become that kind of an independent leader to help that process along, then good.
Bingo again, Tychicus . I have no idea why politicians who spend money we don’t have to fund wars we don’t need are suddenly considered the “moderates”. While politicians who advocate taking care of the people’s legitimate business are suddenly considered “radical”. It’s a mystery .
Ty, you do realize how many folks its lost? National elections are now 50-50, or pretty close to it, with a large group of those of us who are more independent of the two more strident (as we see it) choices.
The conservative movement has to grow, not shrink to club-membership size.
HRW I appreciate your post concerning your view. Of course I don’t exactly see it the same way but I do try to understand other’s take on matters even if it makes not a lot of sense to me.
Insofar as Trump dehumanizing others I see it quite differently.
And the fake story of his making fun of the
disabled/mentally, physical or otherwise…it simply was a twisting of what happened by our national media propaganda. Illegal invaders have an opportunity to apply and come to this country legally. They choose to break our laws and benefit on the backs of our taxpayers. We cannot provide for the citizens of the world especially when they begin their journey here by breaking our laws. But lo and behold this administration rewards their disregard for our laws. He’s not being cold hearted and demeaning towards them…he is attempting to establish law and order once again.
Well, the mocking of a disabled reporter was caught on video during his first campaign.
That was one of the clips that completely lost my school teacher friend to ever considering a vote for him. There was more (videos, behaviors during debates) but that one affected her the most.
It’s pretty much Trump in his own words and behaviors we’re talking about.
As everyone has seen by now, Trump in late 2015 referred to Kovaleski’s backtracking at one of his rallies, saying, “[The report was] written by a nice guy; now, the poor guy, you got to see this guy…”
Trump then started jerking his arms around and, in a mocking tone, said, “Ah, I don’t know what I said! Ah, I don’t remember!”
If Trump’s purpose was to mock-imitate Kovaleski, anyone watching would have never known it; and not just because no one would know who Kovaleski is, if the media hadn’t manufactured a controversy.
The media would have everyone believe Kovaleski has Parkinson’s disease or at least Restless Leg Syndrome.
Anyone can search “Serge Kovaleski” on YouTube and see videos of the reporter. He doesn’t jerk his arms around, in fact, because his mobility is limited. He’s still.
A corpse would be doing a more accurate imitation.
By the way, Trump has mocked bank executives, Ted Cruz and the response President Obama’s generals give to questions about fighting the Islamic State and he used the exact same affect as he did for Kovaleski.
But the media ignore those because they didn’t depress Meryl Streep .
dj: Compare the number of votes that Pres. Trump received in the last two national elections to previous Republican candidates. And this time will be another all-time record.
Just noticed that there is still some discussion happening on yesterday’s news/politics thread. (Sorry if it has already been mentioned here. I haven’t had time to catch up yet.)
NJ, I’m not going to get into the favorite pastime here of journalism bashing. I think the main point is missed, as often is the case here, but am weary of the debate right now.
Not pertaining to any particular topic from today, I want to stress again that there’s a big difference between having reservations about President Trump on the one hand, and agreeing with everything bad said about him.
For example, Trump’s “There were good people on both sides” statement about Charlottesville in 2017, which to this day is still used to accuse him of praising white supremacists and neo-Nazis. It makes my blood boil every time I see it because it’s such a lie. (Even Snopes branded it as false!)
There’s no question Trump has been treated very unfairly. Russia Russia Russia, pee tape, “good people on both sides”, I’ve never bought into any of that, and I’ve argued with people who do.
So if I question the legitimacy of a report painting Dems in a bad light, understand that does not mean I’m “on their side”.
Kevin – I wholeheartedly agree. A little while back on Facebook, I shared something (perhaps that Snopes piece you mentioned) making that same point about the “good people on both sides” remark. And during Trump’s first term, I shared several fact checks about things he supposedly said or did that had been twisted.
Former WMBer Jim U (who, like me, is not a Trump supporter) once posted something like “Stop making me have to defend Trump!” and I said that I was in the same boat. 😀
“So did MSNBC vet this, as I’m told you can’t mention salacious possible truths without proof the left and NTers approve of.”
Actually, Christians are not supposed to mention “salacious possible truths” at all.
Since you disapprove so strongly of the lie about Trump being drunk (rightfully so), do you feel the same way about all the times mention has been made of Nancy Pelosi – who reportedly also does not drink alcohol – being drunk?
In my comment above, I had emphasized the word “possible”. But really, even if a “salacious” story turns out to be true, even then we should be very careful in considering if the story really needs to be shared, and be circumspect about our own motivation in sharing it.
Kizzie is partially correct I think. Christians should not be salacious or promote salaciousness in thought, word or deed. What is salacious? ‘Appealing to or stimulating sexual desire’. First of all, I would say to anyone who finds the charges of sexual abuse, sex trafficking, or homosexual or heterosexual affairs sexually stimulating in any way , they should avoid all material or information of that nature until you get help—or permanently. Not trying to be insulting, but you never can know what people gravitate to by nature. We are all human, and when we say human nature is depraved, well that covers everything including sexuality. And it’s an issue even in the church.
Scripture tells us that with much wisdom comes trouble, and increasing knowledge increases sorrow. But the corollary is not true: ignorance is not bliss. It’s not even a virtue. Becoming knowledgeable in a circumstance for which you have a responsibility, such as elections, comes with a price. If you take it seriously it increases your sorrow. Why? Because the unregenerated human nature is depraved. So we are put in a position of using our judgement to determine what we believe is true or false for the practical purposes of having accurate knowledge to use in our decision making process.
I think what makes something salacious for our purposes here is intent and how something is presented. And I would have to say I can’t remember having read anything here on the blog that is at all salacious. I have read uncomfortable or unpleasant things regarding sex, but that’s not the same.
“Since you disapprove so strongly of the lie about Trump being drunk (rightfully so), do you feel the same way about all the times mention has been made of Nancy Pelosi – who reportedly also does not drink alcohol – being drunk?”
Kizzie, I don’t like to see anyone’s reputation smeared, but I think this is a false equivalency. It is very well known that Trump has always been a strict teetotaler. Others claim to have seen Pelosi drunk. She may well not drink now or may even be a recovering alcoholic, but a woman who became the 4th richest woman in California because of her vineyards does not have the strength of reputation to make one confident either way. One is certainly more credible than the other in my opinion.
Wandering Views 
https://alphanews.org/walzs-minnesota-ranked-last-for-fiscal-policy-out-of-all-50-states/
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Poor Walz, to have that news released in such a timely moment!
I am glad and not surprised to see Georgia in the top ten. Kemp has been good on the state level.
Son was very surprised when buying gas in South Carolina, Tennessee, and Georgia during the past week. Atlanta had the lowest gas prices which has never been the case. Kemp has again taken off the gas tax because of the hurricane.
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I just saw a youtube ad of Kamala asking for money, saying she’s the underdog in several swing states. This does seem to be a close race. How different the country might look in 4 years depending on who wins. How different the world might have looked if Trump had prevailed in 2020.
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that was me, debra
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I have been watching interviews and podcasts this past week, as i like to see what the candidates really said, not just what the media says they said.
I have been impressed with Vance, as he attempts to answer the full question.
In my view, Kamala is a series of sound bites strung together that don’t even make sense. I am quite sick of hearing “now let me be clear”.
The covid test kit thing and Putin…what am I missing? We were inundated with them. Do you have any idea how many boxes were discarded because they expired? Have you never heard the saying “keep your friends close, but your enemies closer”?
I was disappointed in Trump’s interview with Dave Ramsey. Should have been a slam dunk, but he did not answer the questions.
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NJ – I missed your comment yesterday
Last week, I wasn’t describing my position on abortion rather the position of those on the pro-choice side who don’t view a fetus as a human life. Based on that premise, their position is logical. My own position has very little logic, is confusing, convoluted and any attempt by me to outline it usually ends with “glad I am a middle aged man because I don’t know what I’d do”.
I don’t hate Trump. Hate is a strong emotion which requires a lot of energy, which I refuse to use. I find him annoying. I’ve commented less in the past year simply because I don’t want to waste the energy. I dislike the way he (and others like him) have dehumanised their opponents, migrants, the poor, the mentally ill, etc. We are all human and need to look after each other. The political discourse throughout the world is littered with hate, dehumanisation, and a lack of basic caring. It’s tiring and annoying. The US is not alone in that regard. Trump is part of this discourse – I don’t hate him but i hate what he (and others) have brought to the public discourse.
hrw
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Debra – you asked a very good question last night – would Vance at the top of the ticket make a difference for some people? It wouldn’t for me but that’s not a surprise. Vance to me has forgotten the cardinal rule of those who rise above their class – don’t forget where you came from. His eagerness to protect and campaign for Trump and his use of misleading if not false soundbites from social media should worry people. He seems too eager to please anyone who can bring him to the top. Unfortunately he doesn’t have much of a public service record so its hard to judge what he would bring to the table or do differently.
There is however an interesting Lincoln Project ad which is directed at Donald Trump suggesting Vance is a Trojan horse. It describes a scenario where Trump will win and then Republicans will invoke the 25th Amendment to put Vance in charge. They are trolling of course but its an interesting idea.
hrw
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From what I understand the covid test kit was not the cheap simple ones you got from your local drug store but hospital standard laboratory equipment. In the early days of the epidemic they were in short supply everywhere and Trump sent some to Russia instead of using them at home. That’s the allegation anyway. Hence not America First Putin First rhetoric you see on some sites.
hrw
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Starry Starry Night!!!! This chorus is rather fitting for her I suppose:
Now I understand What you tried to say to me And how you suffered for your sanity and how you tried to set them free…
In an interview with Roland Martin, Harris was asked about Donald Trump’s focus on crime in cities with significant Black populations. Now, a straightforward answer would have been too easy, right? Instead, Harris served up a galactic metaphor, saying, “If you just look at where the stars are in the sky… look at the constellation—what does it show you?”
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Debra, re your question last night on Vance: Who knows?
He’s (very) green and has a lot of growing to do before I think he’d persuade many. He’s made some blunders early on with the ‘cat lady’ remarks he only would double down on when given opportunities to explain it better; he turned in a fairly good debate performance w/Walz; he refuses to state a position (awkwardly and repeatedly) on the 2020 election results.
He strikes me as young man in a hurry, thus the enthusiastic embrace (after stating contrary opinions) of Trump.
So I guess the answer is – Don’t know, we’ll see.
He either grows and matures – or he doesn’t. If Trump loses, he could have a tough time carving out his own independent path and may simply vanish.
But again, we’ll see, way too soon to get a real feel for him as a leader on his own terms (without the Trump baggage).
There’s a broken party that will need some healing and a serious reboot.
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I do remain skeptical of Vance, however. He needs to get some kind of a record behind him before he’d be a player at the top level, I think. As I said, he’s a young man in a hurry.
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Vance will be just fine, and he’s way better than any old guard, establishment type they could put up. Less corrupted and beholden, by a country mile.
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HRW I appreciate your post concerning your view. Of course I don’t exactly see it the same way but I do try to understand other’s take on matters even if it makes not a lot of sense to me.
Insofar as Trump dehumanizing others I see it quite differently.
And the fake story of his making fun of the
disabled/mentally, physical or otherwise… it simply was a twisting of what happened by our national media propaganda. Illegal invaders have an opportunity to apply and come to this country legally. They choose to break our laws and benefit on the backs of our taxpayers. We cannot provide for the citizens of the world especially when they begin their journey here by breaking our laws. But lo and behold this administration rewards their disregard for our laws. He’s not being cold hearted and demeaning towards them…he is attempting to establish law and order once again.
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I’m more interested in someone who can bring the conservative movement back together after this period ends (and it will end but maybe not real soon). The GOP has lost a limb or two, at least, and members need the wisdom to effectively deal with that — otherwise, it’ll be split and limping for some time to come.
If Vance can become that kind of an independent leader to help that process along, then good.
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It will take wisdom and talent.
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The conservative movement is here, now – and like never before.
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Bingo again, Tychicus . I have no idea why politicians who spend money we don’t have to fund wars we don’t need are suddenly considered the “moderates”. While politicians who advocate taking care of the people’s legitimate business are suddenly considered “radical”. It’s a mystery .
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Ty, you do realize how many folks its lost? National elections are now 50-50, or pretty close to it, with a large group of those of us who are more independent of the two more strident (as we see it) choices.
The conservative movement has to grow, not shrink to club-membership size.
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HRW I appreciate your post concerning your view. Of course I don’t exactly see it the same way but I do try to understand other’s take on matters even if it makes not a lot of sense to me.
Insofar as Trump dehumanizing others I see it quite differently.
And the fake story of his making fun of the
disabled/mentally, physical or otherwise…it simply was a twisting of what happened by our national media propaganda. Illegal invaders have an opportunity to apply and come to this country legally. They choose to break our laws and benefit on the backs of our taxpayers. We cannot provide for the citizens of the world especially when they begin their journey here by breaking our laws. But lo and behold this administration rewards their disregard for our laws. He’s not being cold hearted and demeaning towards them…he is attempting to establish law and order once again.
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Well, the mocking of a disabled reporter was caught on video during his first campaign.
That was one of the clips that completely lost my school teacher friend to ever considering a vote for him. There was more (videos, behaviors during debates) but that one affected her the most.
It’s pretty much Trump in his own words and behaviors we’re talking about.
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So what you’re saying is you have to go back 8 years for an example….
Progress.
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Lovely, human interview with President Biden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oClgm_GFGSQ
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I love the smell of desperation in October. 😁
https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1846548326939836715?t=u5u2PfY0ijZ7KdrZ0tE4xg&s=19
“Unhinged @MSNBC host said Donald Trump is “drunk” on the campaign trail.
Donald Trump has NEVER drank alcohol. He is notoriously sober and often speaks about the negative impact alcohol had on his family.
MSNBC is blatantly lying.
That’s why we call them MSDNC!”
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So did MSNBC vet this, as I’m told you can’t mention salacious possible truths without proof the left and NTers approve of.
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So much journalism…
None of this is true.
As everyone has seen by now, Trump in late 2015 referred to Kovaleski’s backtracking at one of his rallies, saying, “[The report was] written by a nice guy; now, the poor guy, you got to see this guy…”
Trump then started jerking his arms around and, in a mocking tone, said, “Ah, I don’t know what I said! Ah, I don’t remember!”
If Trump’s purpose was to mock-imitate Kovaleski, anyone watching would have never known it; and not just because no one would know who Kovaleski is, if the media hadn’t manufactured a controversy.
The media would have everyone believe Kovaleski has Parkinson’s disease or at least Restless Leg Syndrome.
Anyone can search “Serge Kovaleski” on YouTube and see videos of the reporter. He doesn’t jerk his arms around, in fact, because his mobility is limited. He’s still.
A corpse would be doing a more accurate imitation.
By the way, Trump has mocked bank executives, Ted Cruz and the response President Obama’s generals give to questions about fighting the Islamic State and he used the exact same affect as he did for Kovaleski.
But the media ignore those because they didn’t depress Meryl Streep .
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“The FBI just “found” an additional
1,699 murders
7,780 rapes
33,459 robberies
37,091 aggravated assaults
in 2022.
So, violent crime skyrocketed under Kamala & Biden.
Make America Safe Again. Vote Trump.”
https://x.com/Liz_Wheeler/status/1846560513418825823?t=FbpfxPM65QEVRrza1yZrJQ&s=19
Biden and Kamala lied. Again.
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dj: Compare the number of votes that Pres. Trump received in the last two national elections to previous Republican candidates. And this time will be another all-time record.
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Just noticed that there is still some discussion happening on yesterday’s news/politics thread. (Sorry if it has already been mentioned here. I haven’t had time to catch up yet.)
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NJ, I’m not going to get into the favorite pastime here of journalism bashing. I think the main point is missed, as often is the case here, but am weary of the debate right now.
Good post by Cheryl on yesterday’s news thread.
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Well you weren’t being targeted. It’s the mainstream propagandized “journalists” being outed. It’s the truth that is being overlooked. 😳
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Yeah, yeah. It’s getting old.
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aren’t we all?
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Not pertaining to any particular topic from today, I want to stress again that there’s a big difference between having reservations about President Trump on the one hand, and agreeing with everything bad said about him.
For example, Trump’s “There were good people on both sides” statement about Charlottesville in 2017, which to this day is still used to accuse him of praising white supremacists and neo-Nazis. It makes my blood boil every time I see it because it’s such a lie. (Even Snopes branded it as false!)
There’s no question Trump has been treated very unfairly. Russia Russia Russia, pee tape, “good people on both sides”, I’ve never bought into any of that, and I’ve argued with people who do.
So if I question the legitimacy of a report painting Dems in a bad light, understand that does not mean I’m “on their side”.
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Kevin – I wholeheartedly agree. A little while back on Facebook, I shared something (perhaps that Snopes piece you mentioned) making that same point about the “good people on both sides” remark. And during Trump’s first term, I shared several fact checks about things he supposedly said or did that had been twisted.
Former WMBer Jim U (who, like me, is not a Trump supporter) once posted something like “Stop making me have to defend Trump!” and I said that I was in the same boat. 😀
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“So did MSNBC vet this, as I’m told you can’t mention salacious possible truths without proof the left and NTers approve of.”
Actually, Christians are not supposed to mention “salacious possible truths” at all.
Since you disapprove so strongly of the lie about Trump being drunk (rightfully so), do you feel the same way about all the times mention has been made of Nancy Pelosi – who reportedly also does not drink alcohol – being drunk?
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In my comment above, I had emphasized the word “possible”. But really, even if a “salacious” story turns out to be true, even then we should be very careful in considering if the story really needs to be shared, and be circumspect about our own motivation in sharing it.
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Kizzie is partially correct I think. Christians should not be salacious or promote salaciousness in thought, word or deed. What is salacious? ‘Appealing to or stimulating sexual desire’. First of all, I would say to anyone who finds the charges of sexual abuse, sex trafficking, or homosexual or heterosexual affairs sexually stimulating in any way , they should avoid all material or information of that nature until you get help—or permanently. Not trying to be insulting, but you never can know what people gravitate to by nature. We are all human, and when we say human nature is depraved, well that covers everything including sexuality. And it’s an issue even in the church.
Scripture tells us that with much wisdom comes trouble, and increasing knowledge increases sorrow. But the corollary is not true: ignorance is not bliss. It’s not even a virtue. Becoming knowledgeable in a circumstance for which you have a responsibility, such as elections, comes with a price. If you take it seriously it increases your sorrow. Why? Because the unregenerated human nature is depraved. So we are put in a position of using our judgement to determine what we believe is true or false for the practical purposes of having accurate knowledge to use in our decision making process.
I think what makes something salacious for our purposes here is intent and how something is presented. And I would have to say I can’t remember having read anything here on the blog that is at all salacious. I have read uncomfortable or unpleasant things regarding sex, but that’s not the same.
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“Since you disapprove so strongly of the lie about Trump being drunk (rightfully so), do you feel the same way about all the times mention has been made of Nancy Pelosi – who reportedly also does not drink alcohol – being drunk?”
Kizzie, I don’t like to see anyone’s reputation smeared, but I think this is a false equivalency. It is very well known that Trump has always been a strict teetotaler. Others claim to have seen Pelosi drunk. She may well not drink now or may even be a recovering alcoholic, but a woman who became the 4th richest woman in California because of her vineyards does not have the strength of reputation to make one confident either way. One is certainly more credible than the other in my opinion.
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