Country people may understand more about putting down an animal, since this is how it has been done since the beginning of time. It is a sad thing to have to do. It also seems to be another way to insist someone is bad or evil. That seems to be the way of the world these days.
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Yes, as I did not receive a response to the question, I will give my two bits. We have done both: taken animals to the vet for putting down and doing it at home.
In my experience, taking a dog to the vet can go easily. But many pets do not travel well and a visit to the vet is not their favorite so they are very nervous/scared for the trip, the waiting room, the placing on the table, the visit, the shot to relax them , etc.
At home, the animal is taken to a favorite spot with favorite people in a calm loving environment, petted and loved on, quickly dispatched. If it was me, I would prefer that.
As mentioned, country people have done it this way for years. Not once have I taken a cow, steer, goat, sheep, chicken, turkey, guinea fowl, duck, or goose to the vet for putting down. Having the mobile butcher out for steers was much easier on the animal than taking them in for the deed. Much as I do not like putting an animal down, I prefer it done at home.
Her chances at VP are done. While I understand how it works on farms and what not, most won’t give her a pass for that. They’ll poll it, and she’s done.
Won’t matter to the folks in Dearbornistan, just like when she married her brother to commit immigration fraud.
yes, people often frame ilhan omar as some kind of impoverished somalian economic refugee, here by the grace of god. in fact she comes from a family of socialist *political* refugees, unsafe in their native homeland following their participation in genocide. https://t.co/55hZhXfvdD
What a waste of taxpayer dollars. Everything the do has the opposite effect of what they tell you. They lie with impunity.
Fun fact: FEMA has paid the Teachers College at Columbia University $2.3 million over the past 3 years for “countering violent extremism” https://t.co/n7JCU1wsrU
Mumsee – It seems to be a difference in how country people handle their pets and how city or suburban people handle their pets. As one from a town that has a mixture of suburban and country, I wondered why she didn’t have the dog on a leash if she knew it was not responding to training. I also wondered why the dog could not be accepted as a pet even though he did not work out as the hunting dog he was meant to be.
There could be a good reason for that, but she did not seem to mention it, which doesn’t help her case. And as you said, it was not wise – at all – for her to include it in her book. That lack of wisdom and discretion doesn’t look good for a possible vice presidential candidate.
Not only did she shoot her dog, but in telling the story, she shot herself in the foot.
You can’t teach a dog to chase and roast birds so you can hunt them, and then be upset when it chases the neighbors chickens. Duh.
I really don’t understand why she chose to include the story in her book. Where were the editors?
She should have left it out. If word did get out you simply explain that’s how things were done and ignore it and hope the political damage isn’t too great. By outting herself, as Kizzie said, she shot herself in the foot.
A hunting dog is supposed to point and a retriever retrieves. They never are supposed to chase or roast the fowl. A nuisance dog chases.
Kizzie, she also said it was a danger to anybody who came on the property. That is aggressive and you don’t just hand that over to some unsuspecting person.
I understand the different outlooks between people in city environments and those and on working farms or ranches.
I hesitate to comment on the incident in a hard-and-fast way. She apparently did not say in the book that the dog was a threat to people — but rather added that in defending herself most recently. So that remains unclear to me (how dangerous the dog was generally speaking).
All that said, I had a dog I had to have put down due to aggression, it broke my heart; but I understand it does happen, some dogs are hard-wired or conditioned that way, though mostly it’s rare.
As Lizzie pointed out, there also are alternatives that should be weighed as a solution. This was a young dog in question so it seems that might have been a better option if it was possible. Perhaps she weighed those, we don’t know. Going straight for the pit and a gun would be impulsive. But I didn’t read the book, don’t know much more about it other than what the news reports have said after the fact.
I went through quite a bit of testing and soul searching in my situation and, with long and tearful consultations with my trusted vet who also tested the dog, came to the decision I did. Alternatives didn’t exist. I don’t regret it, but I can still sometimes cry over it.
I guess maybe some of those internal struggles were what was missing in her written account?
Yes, I think that’s it. If she had expressed some kind of anguish or sorrow, it would have softened the effect of the story. I don’t know how she wrote about it in the book, but in the article I read, she seemed too matter-of-fact about it. She even said she hated the dog.
I only ever hated one dog, a mangy, matted sheep dog. It terrorized our neighborhood whenever it got lose. Huge dogs and 3 foot fences don’t work well for detaining them on your property.
I was a paper boy. Once while on my route, it cornered me and bit me twice.
After that I carried a rather heavy and thick metal chain dog leash in my bag.
The next time it happened I slapped that dog upside the head as hard as I could with said chain. After that, I occasionally ran into him on my route, but he never came near me again.
Just putting it out there, in case I’m the nominee….. 😉
Just today—while intentionally ignoring one bombshell after another related this dirty, compromised case—NR continues to insist the allegations are legit: pic.twitter.com/8omUNvRxl1
They did all this to President Trump and then Speaker Mike Johnson fully funded Biden’s corrupt politically weaponized DOJ and FBI and gave the FBI a new building.
This and many other betrayals is why the entire Democrat leadership team is voting to save Mike Johnson. https://t.co/zNCC6oWKc6
— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) May 4, 2024
Interesting article in The American Conservative this week. I hope Trump has enough wisdom not to fully embrace the war hawks as it would make him unelectable, in my opinion.
Just saw Noem on Face the Nation. Contrary to the efforts of the host, she did an excellent job defending her actions, taking personal responsibility, no regrets about addressing what her opponents have brought up for years (it happened twenty years ago), and expressing sorrow that this is how it goes. Some animals need to be put down for the bigger picture.
Here in my little town, some people are upset about a particular cat that is allowed to roam outside. There are a lot of them around, but this one has been a problem for some people.
One woman wrote that this cat has scratched through a window screen at least a couple times, trying to get to her indoor cat. The cat has also attacked another one, resulting in an expensive vet bill. I think there was another one or two incidents that were mentioned.
Apparently, the owner insists that the cat is an outdoor cat and doesn’t like to be inside. Others have pointed out that their cats would love to go out, but have acclimated to being inside cats. Our Rudy is like that.
mumsee @3:07, most certainly the common denominator.
Foreign policy is one of those issues that is hard to nail into a hard-and-fast position for all times or all circumstances. But debate on principles (knowing those will be challenged by events — and could even be viewed as needing to be abandoned at later times) is good for the nation to revisit.
But one of those things we may need to ‘hold loosely’ due to the fact we live in a rapidly changing world.
“HAPPENING NOW: Yesterday trans athlete Sadie Schreiner won the D3 college track meet in the women’s division. He won the 200 meter and the 400 meter and shattered school records in the process.
To make matters worse, if he had competed in the men’s races he would’ve placed last. Instead, he competed against the women and took trophies away from them.
They were able to pass the Ukraine funding by agreeing to fund Israel and then once they got it passed, they're "holding" the ammunition from Israel that the funding provided.
DJ@1:03 Yes, it’s complicated, and prosperity increases the complexity.
When you’re broke, sick and hungry things become remarkably clear—that’s one benefit of fasting. I don’t believe in “American exceptionalism”, but I do love my country, so I hope we don’t have to find clarity in a a most uncomfortable or disasterous way. When it’s too late.
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Country people may understand more about putting down an animal, since this is how it has been done since the beginning of time. It is a sad thing to have to do. It also seems to be another way to insist someone is bad or evil. That seems to be the way of the world these days.
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Do not read the following if not interested in dying animals.
Yes, as I did not receive a response to the question, I will give my two bits. We have done both: taken animals to the vet for putting down and doing it at home.
In my experience, taking a dog to the vet can go easily. But many pets do not travel well and a visit to the vet is not their favorite so they are very nervous/scared for the trip, the waiting room, the placing on the table, the visit, the shot to relax them , etc.
At home, the animal is taken to a favorite spot with favorite people in a calm loving environment, petted and loved on, quickly dispatched. If it was me, I would prefer that.
As mentioned, country people have done it this way for years. Not once have I taken a cow, steer, goat, sheep, chicken, turkey, guinea fowl, duck, or goose to the vet for putting down. Having the mobile butcher out for steers was much easier on the animal than taking them in for the deed. Much as I do not like putting an animal down, I prefer it done at home.
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Her chances at VP are done. While I understand how it works on farms and what not, most won’t give her a pass for that. They’ll poll it, and she’s done.
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The corrupt FBI seems disinterested in the terrorist supporters and their enablers…
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Know your audience. It was not a wise thing to put out.
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The audio is gold….
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Won’t matter to the folks in Dearbornistan, just like when she married her brother to commit immigration fraud.
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What a waste of taxpayer dollars. Everything the do has the opposite effect of what they tell you. They lie with impunity.
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Mumsee – It seems to be a difference in how country people handle their pets and how city or suburban people handle their pets. As one from a town that has a mixture of suburban and country, I wondered why she didn’t have the dog on a leash if she knew it was not responding to training. I also wondered why the dog could not be accepted as a pet even though he did not work out as the hunting dog he was meant to be.
There could be a good reason for that, but she did not seem to mention it, which doesn’t help her case. And as you said, it was not wise – at all – for her to include it in her book. That lack of wisdom and discretion doesn’t look good for a possible vice presidential candidate.
Not only did she shoot her dog, but in telling the story, she shot herself in the foot.
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You can’t teach a dog to chase and roast birds so you can hunt them, and then be upset when it chases the neighbors chickens. Duh.
I really don’t understand why she chose to include the story in her book. Where were the editors?
She should have left it out. If word did get out you simply explain that’s how things were done and ignore it and hope the political damage isn’t too great. By outting herself, as Kizzie said, she shot herself in the foot.
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That should be roust. The roasting comes later. 😉
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I was so confused.
A hunting dog is supposed to point and a retriever retrieves. They never are supposed to chase or roast the fowl. A nuisance dog chases.
Kizzie, she also said it was a danger to anybody who came on the property. That is aggressive and you don’t just hand that over to some unsuspecting person.
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She may have figured some hater would bring it up and it’s best to get the truth out there.
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I understand the different outlooks between people in city environments and those and on working farms or ranches.
I hesitate to comment on the incident in a hard-and-fast way. She apparently did not say in the book that the dog was a threat to people — but rather added that in defending herself most recently. So that remains unclear to me (how dangerous the dog was generally speaking).
All that said, I had a dog I had to have put down due to aggression, it broke my heart; but I understand it does happen, some dogs are hard-wired or conditioned that way, though mostly it’s rare.
As Lizzie pointed out, there also are alternatives that should be weighed as a solution. This was a young dog in question so it seems that might have been a better option if it was possible. Perhaps she weighed those, we don’t know. Going straight for the pit and a gun would be impulsive. But I didn’t read the book, don’t know much more about it other than what the news reports have said after the fact.
I went through quite a bit of testing and soul searching in my situation and, with long and tearful consultations with my trusted vet who also tested the dog, came to the decision I did. Alternatives didn’t exist. I don’t regret it, but I can still sometimes cry over it.
I guess maybe some of those internal struggles were what was missing in her written account?
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Oh, spellcheck, what are we to do with you?
It’s Kizzie, not Lizzie. Sigh.
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I have gone through that anguish.
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Yes, I think that’s it. If she had expressed some kind of anguish or sorrow, it would have softened the effect of the story. I don’t know how she wrote about it in the book, but in the article I read, she seemed too matter-of-fact about it. She even said she hated the dog.
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Not a dog person then 🙂
I’ve liked some dogs more than others, but can’t say I’ve ever hated a dog.
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I only ever hated one dog, a mangy, matted sheep dog. It terrorized our neighborhood whenever it got lose. Huge dogs and 3 foot fences don’t work well for detaining them on your property.
I was a paper boy. Once while on my route, it cornered me and bit me twice.
After that I carried a rather heavy and thick metal chain dog leash in my bag.
The next time it happened I slapped that dog upside the head as hard as I could with said chain. After that, I occasionally ran into him on my route, but he never came near me again.
Just putting it out there, in case I’m the nominee….. 😉
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National Review has fallen to the Never Trumpers.
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Yep.
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Interesting article in The American Conservative this week. I hope Trump has enough wisdom not to fully embrace the war hawks as it would make him unelectable, in my opinion.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/a-burgum-vice-presidency-will-undercut-a-second-trump-administration/
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Just saw Noem on Face the Nation. Contrary to the efforts of the host, she did an excellent job defending her actions, taking personal responsibility, no regrets about addressing what her opponents have brought up for years (it happened twenty years ago), and expressing sorrow that this is how it goes. Some animals need to be put down for the bigger picture.
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Mumsee – Glad to hear that she expressed a more sensitive view of the incident.
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Here in my little town, some people are upset about a particular cat that is allowed to roam outside. There are a lot of them around, but this one has been a problem for some people.
One woman wrote that this cat has scratched through a window screen at least a couple times, trying to get to her indoor cat. The cat has also attacked another one, resulting in an expensive vet bill. I think there was another one or two incidents that were mentioned.
Apparently, the owner insists that the cat is an outdoor cat and doesn’t like to be inside. Others have pointed out that their cats would love to go out, but have acclimated to being inside cats. Our Rudy is like that.
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Sounds like a male “tom” cat looking for love.
@10:00: Debra, I think there’s a middle ground between what you call war hawks and what I’d call isolationists at the other extreme.
But, as they say, “it’s complicated” — because the world is complicated (with situations and circumstances always changing).
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and because it involves humans.
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mumsee @3:07, most certainly the common denominator.
Foreign policy is one of those issues that is hard to nail into a hard-and-fast position for all times or all circumstances. But debate on principles (knowing those will be challenged by events — and could even be viewed as needing to be abandoned at later times) is good for the nation to revisit.
But one of those things we may need to ‘hold loosely’ due to the fact we live in a rapidly changing world.
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It ends when wome refuse to participate until they stop this idiocy.
https://twitter.com/TM1Politics/status/1787206904659206idiocy.RvWfWCVIf0PWDyTz8jPYHA&s=19
“HAPPENING NOW: Yesterday trans athlete Sadie Schreiner won the D3 college track meet in the women’s division. He won the 200 meter and the 400 meter and shattered school records in the process.
To make matters worse, if he had competed in the men’s races he would’ve placed last. Instead, he competed against the women and took trophies away from them.
When will this madness end?”
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And Johnson plays along….
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DJ@1:03 Yes, it’s complicated, and prosperity increases the complexity.
When you’re broke, sick and hungry things become remarkably clear—that’s one benefit of fasting. I don’t believe in “American exceptionalism”, but I do love my country, so I hope we don’t have to find clarity in a a most uncomfortable or disasterous way. When it’s too late.
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