18 thoughts on “News/Politics 8-16-23

  1. Denying election results?

    That’s a crime.

    But only if your name is Trump.

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    Here’s 2 more election deniers still walking free, because they’re a D. After spending years denying Trump beat Hillary, suddenly they’re against it.

    “HRC and Rachel Maddow decry questioning elections”

    https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/08/15/hrc-and-rachel-maddow-decry-questioning-elections-n571382

    “I couldn’t agree more with Rachel Maddow and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Anybody who questions the results of an election is undermining American democracy and should be permanently shunned from polite society. Perhaps even prosecuted for wounding our democracy.”

    “That is why I fully support de-platforming Al Gore and every Democrat who claimed that George W. Bush was “selected not elected,” Hillary Clinton, Rachel Maddow, and every member of the MSM and the Democrats, the intelligence community, the FBI and others who spent years denying the legitimacy of the Trump 2016 election, and pretty much every liberal who has spent the past 20+ years denying the legitimacy of Republican electoral victories in elections around the country.

    Throw in the DNC, Marc Elias, and countless others who spread baseless conspiracy theories about election interference. Once we do that for all elections prior to the 2020 presidential election, I think we can have a deep and serious conversation about the damage done by Donald Trump and his “co-conspirators.”

    Once the liberals establish and enforce that norm among themselves I will even join them in turning Donald Trump into an outcast.

    Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, and most Congressional Democrats would, of course, have to resign, as well as most Democrat elected officials and many of the people who would run to replace them.”

    “But that would be a small price to pay to make Donald Trump withdraw from politics for harming democracy’s legitimacy.”

    “Tossing “election deniers” out of public life would serve the country incredibly well, all things considered. It would in fact do what Donald Trump has promised to do for almost a decade: drain the swamp. Trump himself might take that deal: in exchange for dropping out of the 2024 election every Democrat who challenged the legitimacy of his election in 2016 would voluntarily withdraw from politics and political commentary.

    No fundraising, no officeholding, no political commentary. They can collect their retirement pay and slink off to “spend more time with their families.”

    Even if Trump rejects the deal, I would hope that most Republicans would embrace it with the speed of a cheetah chasing its prey.

    It’s hard to see the downside of Maddow’s apparent proposal. She would be off the air and be free to preach lesbian pride or something on the lecture circuit, or perhaps do movie reviews for Vice. Clinton could finally retire to Epstein Island or whatever she would enjoy, and pretty much every liberal political commentator would be free to pursue their dreams of creating a socialist paradise filled with World Economic Forum bureaucrats running the place.

    Sure, Republicans would lose a substantial fraction of their elite class, but wouldn’t you be happy enough to see Rudy Guiliani sent out to pasture? Maria Bartiromo’s retirement wouldn’t be much of a loss, and Lou Dobbs could go back to covering space.

    It would be a good deal, but I suspect that Maddow’s sincere concern that election results never be questioned is limited to only one side of the political aisle.

    Question Republican victories in elections all you want. Democrat victories are off-limits.

    Why is that fair?

    It’s obvious: Democrats are supposed to win all elections because they stole them fair and square.”

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  2. Their goal is to keep Trump from beating them for a 3rd time, they know a farce conviction won’t stand on appeal in a real court, so they need to hurry it thru a corrupt one with a corrupt judge now. Sure it gets overturned, but that’s after they disqualify their only real competition for the presidency.

    “Alan Dershowitz Predicts All Four Trump Trials Will Take Place Before 2024 Election, Adds ‘There’ll Be Some Convictions’”

    https://www.mediaite.com/podcasts/alan-dershowitz-predicts-all-four-trump-trials-will-take-place-before-2024-election-adds-therell-be-some-convictions/

    “The fact that they were willing to put the indictment on the website before the grand jurors voted proved something that any of us who have had experience in criminal law know — the grand jury is meaningless,” Dershowitz said, referencing the website error made by Fulton County which published the charges against Trump before it was official.

    “There are 23 or whatever number it is, chairs that the prosecution moves around. If the prosecutor wants an indictment, she gets an indictment. So nobody should say, ‘Oh, my God. A grand jury, 23 people looked at the evidence and they said there was enough to indict!’ Ignore it. It’s nonsense,” Dershowitz said. “The grand jury didn’t decide anything. They rubber stamped something that the prosecutor put before them. And the best evidence is the prosecutor was so confident she was willing to put it on her website even before the vote took place.”

    Dershowitz believes there will be convictions in the charges against the former president.

    “You know, it’s Alice in Wonderland — verdict first, execution, and then trial. That’s what we’re having here. And it’s such an undercutting of our Constitution. I predicted this all in, Get Trump,” the lawyer said, touting his latest book.

    “And I predict there’ll be some convictions. I think the strategy is to get bad convictions, but to get them fast in New York, in Florida, in Washington, and in Fulton County, then they’ll be reversed on appeal, but they’ll be reversed on appeal after the election,” Dershowitz explained.

    “That’s why everybody’s rushing to get these cases tried. We now know that they want it tried within six months in Georgia. They want a trial in January in Washington, D.C. They want a trial in May in Florida. And New York has been willing to put it off. But they’re going to get on the bandwagon too. Everybody who was going after Trump, the whole ‘Get Trump’ approach is to get him before the election, convict him before the election, and he wins on appeal. All right. That’s tomorrow’s news,” Dershowitz concluded.”

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  3. Laws?

    Pffftttt….

    Who cares what the law says, we need to get the Bad Orange Man and his helpers.

    “Mark Meadows Files Motion That Could Be an Out in Georgia for Trump and Multiple Defendants”

    https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/08/15/mark-meadows-files-motion-that-could-be-an-out-in-georgia-for-trump-and-multiple-defendants-n2162684

    “On Tuesday evening, news broke that Mark Meadows, one of the defendants and Trump’s former chief of staff, has filed a motion of removal in an attempt to get the charges out of Georgia and into a federal court. ”

    “Defendant Mark R. Meadows, former Chief of Staff to the President of the United States, removes this proceeding from the Fulton County Superior Court (Case No. 23SC188947, filed August 14, 2023), insofar as it charges Mr. Meadows in two counts (Counts 1 and 28) of a 41-count indictment, to the United States District Court for the Northern District of Georgia under 28 U.S.C. §§ 1442 & 1455.

    Mr. Meadows has the right to remove this matter. The conduct giving rise to the charges in the indictment all occurred during his tenure and as part of his service as Chief of Staff. In these circumstances, federal law provides for prompt removal of a “criminal prosecution . . . commenced in a State court . . . against or directed to” a federal official, “in an official or individual capacity, for or relating to any act under color of [his] office.” 28 U.S.C. § 1442(a)(1). The removal statute “protect[s] the Federal Government from the interference with its operations that would ensue were a State able, for example, to arrest and bring to trial in a State court for an alleged offense against the law of the State, officers and agents of the Federal Government acting within the scope of their authority.”

    “Given the bias that many suspect Fulton County DA Fani Willis holds, that seems like a smart play and one that has a very real chance of succeeding. For an explanation of what such a motion actually entails, I’ll give way to Leslie McAdoo Gordon, who holds expertise in this area. ”

    “Was this a major oversight by Willis in her overzealous attempt to take down Trump and everyone who surrounded him during the 2020 election? I don’t have the knowledge to make that judgment, but there appears to be ample precedent for a motion of removal in this case, not just for Meadows, but for all the defendants who were also government officials during the time period the indictment covers. That would include Donald Trump, though, he might have a more difficult time if a judge assesses he was acting as a candidate.

    As to who would make the decision on the motion (and presumably, motions in the near future unless they join Meadows), it would not be a state judge. Rather, a federal judge would be selected at random to assess each motion and to decide whether to place the case within a federal court or remand it back to the state. “

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  4. Disney doing unethical things?

    First I’d heard of it.

    “Disney in more hot water: Hiding “hundreds of millions of dollars” from ‘Avatar’ sequel financier”

    https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2023/08/15/disney-in-more-hot-water-hiding-hundreds-of-millions-of-dollars-from-avatar-sequel-financier-n571481

    “Oh, man – this couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of low-lifes.

    Hollywood financer TSG Entertainment is suing Disney for breach of contract.

    The suit filed Tuesday in Los Angeles Superior Court alleges that Disney and its studio 20th Century Fox committed a number of transgressions, including withholding profits and cutting deals to boost its streaming platforms and stock price. This act deprived TSG of cash to invest in individual films and its efforts to sell its stakes in other movies, the lawsuit says.

    Just last month I posted about how Disney was trying to offload ESPN – or work a deal with one of the leagues, either NBA or NFL – and the fact that their streaming services were bleeding cash and customers now that their period for affiliate payments had expired.

    All this is coming about because Disney has so thoroughly destroyed Disney and the singular, beloved place the company held for decades in the American psyche. A once enthusiastic public is rejecting the company’s pricey offerings at a record clip.

    …Until last quarter, Disney’s bundle of linear TV networks still had revenue growth because affiliate fee increases to pay-TV providers — largely driven by ESPN — made up for the millions of Americans who cancel cable each year. That trend finally ended last quarter, according to people familiar with the matter. Accelerating cancellations have now overwhelmed fee increases, and linear TV revenue outside of advertising has begun to decline.

    They’ve faced one woke disaster after another at the box office, and now have one more staring them in the face. I mean, already no one can stand the smug star of the “Snow White” remake a year before it hits the screen.”

    “They seem hell bent on blowing up the brand.

    And as they’re already running short of cash on hand, it doesn’t make much sense to keep shooting yourself with the same woke bullet in the foot.

    Today, accusations are some of the cash buying the bullets didn’t belong to them to begin with. They were firing woke on other people’s dimes. Not only not sharing what was rightfully the other company’s, but doing some financial magic wand waving to gin up monies owed that weren’t. For just the 3 films they’d had audited, TSG found out Disney had underpaid them by $40M.

    That’s some cha-ching.

    …Noticing a decline in profits, TSG requested an audit of a sampling of three of the films it financed for 20th Century Fox. TSG alleges that it found “rampant self-dealing” and “accounting tricks” within the books and had been underpaid by at least $40 million.

    “At its root, it is a chilling example of how two Hollywood behemoths with a long and shameful history of Hollywood Accounting, Defendants Fox and Disney, have tried to use nearly every trick in the Hollywood Accounting playbook to deprive Plaintiff TSG — the financier who, in good faith, invested more than $3.3 billion with them — out of hundreds of millions of dollars,” the suit says.

    In one alleged incident, TSG said Fox licensed “The Shape of Water,” which won best picture at the 2018 Academy Awards, to FX, a channel owned by the studio, for $4 million less than it should have under its output agreement.

    Additionally, TSG said through its audit that it found it had not been credited with revenue it should have received and was charged millions of dollars for distribution fees that weren’t part of its revenue-participation agreement with the studio.”

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  5. Another legal expert and scholar chimes in on the latest get Trump farce.

    ““Nothing Mr. Meadows is alleged in the indictment to have done is criminal per se: arranging Oval Office meetings, contacting state officials on the President’s behalf, visiting a state government building, and setting up a phone call for the President. One would expect a Chief of Staff to the President of the United States to do these sorts of things…. This is precisely the kind of state interference in a federal official’s duties that the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution prohibits, and that the removal statute shields against.””

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/08/mark-meadows-files-to-remove-georgia-state-prosecution-to-federal-court/

    “From Meadow’s Notice of Removal filed in federal court in the Northern District of Georgia:

    Defendant Mark R. Meadows, former Chief of Staff to the President of the United States, removes this proceeding from the Fulton County Superior Court (Case No. 23SC188947, filed August 14, 2023), insofar as it charges Mr. Meadows in two counts (Counts 1 and 28) of a 41-count indictment, to the United States District Court for the Northern District of Georgia under 28 U.S.C. §§ 1442 & 1455.

    “Mr. Meadows has the right to remove this matter. The conduct giving rise to the charges in the indictment all occurred during his tenure and as part of his service as Chief of Staff. In these circumstances, federal law provides for prompt removal of a “criminal prosecution . . . commenced in a State court . . . against or directed to” a federal official, “in an official or individual capacity, for or relating to any act under color of [his] office.” 28 U.S.C. § 1442(a)(1). The removal statute “protect[s] the Federal Government from the interference with its operations that would ensue were a State able, for example, to arrest and bring to trial in a State court for an alleged offense against the law of the State, officers and agents of the Federal Government acting within the scope of their authority.” Watson v. Philip Morris Companies, Inc., 551 U.S. 142, 150 (2007) (cleaned up).0F1

    Nothing Mr. Meadows is alleged in the indictment to have done is criminal per se: arranging Oval Office meetings, contacting state officials on the President’s behalf, visiting a state government building, and setting up a phone call for the President. One would expect a Chief of Staff to the President of the United States to do these sorts of things. And they have far less to do with the interests of state law than, for example, murder charges that have been successfully removed. E.g., In Re Neagle, 135 U.S. 1, 71 (1890); Tennessee v. Davis, 100 U.S. 257, 260–62 (1879). This is precisely the kind of state interference in a federal official’s duties that the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution prohibits, and that the removal statute shields against. See Neagle, 135 U.S. at 76 (holding that a federal official carrying out his duties “is not liable to answer in the courts of [a State]”).

    Mr. Meadows intends to file a motion to dismiss the indictment pursuant to Rule 12(b) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure as soon as is feasible. Mr. Meadows respectfully requests that the Court “order an evidentiary hearing to be held promptly” and “dispos[e] of the prosecution as justice shall require.” 28 U.S.C. § 1455(b)(5). Here, justice requires the prompt dismissal of the charges against Mr. Meadows. At a minimum, in the meantime, federal law requires granting removal, which will halt the state-court proceedings against Mr. Meadows, see 28 U.S.C. § 1455(b)(5), while the motion to dismiss is resolved.

    Fani Willis, the Fulton County prosecutor, may argue that to the extent Meadows took actions, he was not taking those actions as Chief of Staff, but to assist Trump’s campaign effort, so the conduct is not covered. Meadows anticipates that arguments, listing in the Notice each of the factual allegations against him in the Indictment, to demonstrate that his actions were as Chief of Staff:

    … The charged conduct comprises acts taken by Mr. Meadows, whether in an individual or official capacity, under color of his role as Chief of Staff to the President of the United States. See 28 U.S.C. § 1442(a)(1).

    As is apparent on the face of the indictment, as part of his official duties as Chief of Staff, Mr. Meadows arranged meetings for the President at the White House and communicated with state lawmakers and officials. Mr. Meadows went to a site in Fulton County where the Chief Investigator was conducting an audit of the results of the 2020 Presidential election because—and only because—he was serving as Chief of Staff. He wanted to report back to the President on how the audit was proceeding and told him the following day that the Georgia officials were conducting their work in exemplary fashion. Shortly thereafter, Mr. Meadows, in his role as Chief of Staff, arranged a phone call between the President and Georgia officials, including the Secretary of State and the Chief Investigator. These and the other acts that form the basis for the charges against Mr. Meadows all fall squarely within his conduct as Chief of Staff.

    Indeed, as explained below, it is clear from the face of the indictment that the charges against Mr. Meadows should be dismissed under the Supremacy Clause. But for purposes of removal, the Court need not make that determination. Mr. Meadows is entitled to remove this action to federal court because the charges against him plausibly give rise to a federal defense based on his role at all relevant times as the White House Chief of Staff to the President of the United States.”

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  6. A sad state of affairs.

    Dem ruled, top to bottom.

    Only “govt approved” relief supplies are being allowed in.

    https://twitter.com/Truthpole/status/1691289999197851648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1691289999197851648%7Ctwgr%5E4cef9284c18bef677d97476ffcc8ba868deec3af%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fjustmindy%2F2023%2F08%2F15%2Fstrange-happenings-in-maui-n2386314

    Despite govt ineptitude, some folks rise to the challenge.

    So what does Biden say about all of this?

    But no mean tweets, right?

    That’s what’s important…..

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  7. America Last, as usual with Democrats.

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  9. Weird, right?

    Same county, same DA, yet the Democrat walks. Go figure.

    But this fraud lectures Trump. Idiots.

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  10. Another case of it’s only illegal if Rs do it.

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  11. As always with Biden and Dems, America last.

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  12. The indictments are not for election denial, they are for trying to change the election results. Comparing it to Democrats denying Bush Jr’s win is ridiculous. When Gore lost in the Supreme Court and had no further legal mechanism to change the results, he stopped any attempt to change the results. Sure, people still complained but they did not try to change the results. You can deny election results, you can attempt every legal means necessary to change them but you can’t try to change them illegally and that’s what the Georgia indictments are about.

    Now if they did get rid of any elected officials who denied an election result; a good portion of the House Republicans would be gone. It would be a good way to get rid of some old wood too. But Trump would never agree to such a bargain, it’s all about him and he doesn’t want to be called a loser. He’s really that childish.

    Agree, grand juries are mostly a rubber stamp (the rest of the common law nations don’t use them), but it does create some legitimacy. Ironically the grand jury system was created in the US to limit prosecutorial misconduct. I suppose your politics will determine if it happened here.

    A speedy trial satisfies the public’s interest. Since Trump is running for an office, a trial will put more information out for the voters. And if he’s innocent, Trump should demand an early trial. The fact they want to delay as long as possible speaks volumes. I’ve never heard of an innocent person who doesn’t want a speedy trial.

    Mark Meadows has an interesting motion. The crux of the matter is was he or others acting as part of the president’s staff or were they acting as part of his reelection team. The two jobs seem to overlap here. I would think that by allowing the jobs to overlap, an incumbent would have an advantage.

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  13. Disney is a corporate monster that has commodified childhood . For the longest time I tried to keep Disney out of my house while my daughter was a child but it was incredibly difficult. It’s a pervasive institution and part of an entertainment oligarchy.

    In the current dispute with writers and actors, Disney et al could easily settle with merely cutting upper management wages. CEO Bob Iger makes about S27 million a year. That alone could probably resolve the contract dispute. But of course the actors and writers are being unrealistic…..

    If the success of Barbie is any indication, a reinterpretation of Snow White should easily net Disney enough money for losses elsewhere.

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  14. A conspiracy between four jurisdictions and hundreds of lawyers and their staffers directed by Joe Biden is virtually impossible. I though Biden was too senile to do anything simple let alone something this complex. Of course, Smith and Willis have had some contact – they are working on similar cases with most likely the same witnesses and probably have uncovered something useful for the other. I would think prosecutors collaborate all the time.

    To add to Mark Meadows motion – it’s obvious Willis is hoping somebody will roll when faced with jail time in Georgia. The left side of the internet is betting on Giulianni but if the Meadows’ motion fails, then the odds change. Giulianni pioneered the use of RICO in NYC so he will know (if he’s still coherent) how much trouble his is in. I

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  15. The left side of the internet has already blamed the fires on corporate negligence. Apparently the electric company neglected infrastructure and maintenance making it easier for fire to occur. The environmentalists are blaming climate change and extreme conditions which allowed the fire to spread. The left also claims property developers were phoning property owners within hours of the fire. And that has spawned left wing conspiracies and now I see the right has their own version.

    Right has finally discovered the Hawaiian fires. Now that they think they can blame Biden for any errors – I can see the headlines; Biden’s Katrina. I don’t think this will affect his re-election. Hawaii will vote Democrat even if they run the devil himself. Republicans barely consider Hawaii American – some even argued Obama’s Hawaiian birth should DQ him as wasn’t a real state.

    Insurance companies are the definition of evil. And that’s hardly a new thing.

    The $700 is a temporary measure. I’m sure FEMA will come in and really mess things up soon. FEMA during Katrina was a gong show and I’m sure it hasn’t changed.

    Emergency crews normally block people from involving themselves in any aid during a disaster. The rationale is that without lack of coordination, they will cause more trouble than its worth. Of course that all depends on how competent the emergency response is. And in Uvalde we see that isn’t always the case.

    Not to nitpick but the Ukraine aid includes all aid and not just cash. To make an accurate comparison, we should consider all forms of gov’t assistance.

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  16. Partisan election groups masquerading as charities is a bipartisan issue. Furthermore, the charity and non-profit provisions are probably the most abused part of the tax code. Pick at anything remotely political in any charity or non-profit group and you will find problems. Its probably why its rarely done – both sides use these provisions.

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