I believe the term Republicans are looking for is “quid pro quo”, as in there was none. Another good term is “nothing burger”. Honestly, attend and listen to the entire interview before posting on twitter – you lose credibility if you don’t even stay for the whole interview.
Democratic supporters occasionally claim Republicans are projecting when they make accusations, as in, its something they would do so obviously the Democrats will too. In this case, they think Hunter used his dad since its something Ivanka and Jared did – the difference being, they were actually members of the White House staff.
The vaccine reaction rate – did researchers take co-morbidities or other health issues into account? I remember that being a popular die regarding covid death rates.
“In Florida we are unafraid to have an open and honest dialogue about the issues. And you clearly have no trouble ducking down to Florida on short notice,” DeSantis said. “So given your grave concern (which, I must assume, is sincere) about what you think our standards say, I am officially inviting you back down to Florida to discuss our African American History standards. We will be happy to host you here in Tallahassee. I will ask Dr. William Allen — instrumental in the development of our impressive new standards — to join. We welcome you, of course, to bring Randi Weingarten or someone else who shares your view about the standards.”
Dr. William Allen, former chairman of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights and Florida’s African American History Standards Workgroup member, slammed Harris last week over her “lies” about the curriculum after she seized on one sentence from the 216-page outline to make her false claims.
“I am prepared to meet as early as Wednesday of this week, but of course want to be deferential to your busy schedule should you already have a trip to the southern border planned for that day,” DeSantis added. “Please let me know as soon as possible. What an example we could set for the nation — a serious conversation on the substance of an important issue! I hope you’re feeling up to it.”
Apparently a Manchin-Huntsman ticket would hurt Trump more than Biden. Manchin’s lack of support for Biden’s agenda would translate to a lack of support for Manchin outside of West Virginia.
Another issue for the Republicans is money and party management. Apparently some state Republican parties are broke. And Trump supporting PACs are paying his legal fees instead of helping the party.
NJ – The curriculum is usually a very wordy, cumbersome and over-loaded document. When a new health curriculum came out several years ago, many in my province protested and quoted obscure bits out of context. I have no doubt that the Florida curriculum is being cherry picked right now by many people pro or con. It happens for any part of the curriculum that people may feel contentious.
HRW, interesting polls — haven’t read the 2nd link, but from the first link:
(though as you said, small sample — and, I’d add, it’s still very early in the game):
~ Forty-four percent of voters would not vote for a Manchin-Huntsman ticket, and 31 percent said they probably would not. The poll noted the responses were not affected by whether Manchin or Huntsman was at the top of the ticket.
Biden’s support dropped from 47 percent to 37 percent and Trump’s dropped from 40 percent to 28 percent when a generic bipartisan ticket was offered as an alternative to Biden and Trump. When voters were asked about a potential Manchin-Huntsman ticket, Biden’s support dipped from 47 percent to 40 percent and Trump’s decreased from 40 to 34 percent.
The poll also asked voters who they would support if they believed a third-party candidate would be a “spoiler.” In the hypothetical scenario where voting for a third party could help elect Biden to the White House, 39 percent said they would vote for Biden, 37 percent said Trump and 20 percent would vote for the third party.
Inversely, when voting for a third party would help elect Trump, 43 percent of voters said they would support Biden, 33 percent would support Trump and 20 percent would vote for a third party. Overall, the poll found Biden would still have the most support even if a bipartisan ticket ran. ~
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Intriguing idea about a third-option this time around. I typically have no interest in third parties, they tend to be the extreme-of-the-extremes on both sides.
But we’re in somewhat unchartered territory for 2024. A third party wouldn’t win, but could capture more votes than those candidates have in the past.
Ross Perot probably came closest? I’d have to look all of that up.
OK, now I’ll check the second link. 🙂
I think Rove was right in saying whatever unfolds, this is going to be a “wild ride.”
And the National Review piece, also very interesting and I’ve heard some discussion of this before in recent weeks:
~ … The seemingly frozen-in-amber GOP presidential primary is getting most of the attention and headlines, but under the radar, in at least a quartet of key states, the state Republican parties are collapsing — going broke and devolving into infighting little fiefdoms. Even worse for the GOP, these aren’t just any states — Arizona, Colorado, Michigan, and Minnesota all rank as either key swing states or once-purple states that would be tantalizing targets in a good year.
Meanwhile, the Georgia state Republican Party is spending a small fortune on the legal fees of those “alternate” Republican electors from the 2020 presidential election.
If Republicans are disappointed with the results of the 2024 elections — for the fourth straight cycle, mind you — a key factor will be the replacement of competent, boring, regular state-party officials with quite exciting, blustering nutjobs who have little or no interest in the basics of successfully managing a state party or the basic blocking and tackling involved in helping GOP candidates win elections.
When a political party adopts a mindset that prioritizes loyalty to a particular figure — in this case, Donald Trump — over all other traits, eventually it tends to run low on those other traits. We see the consequences of this mentality in the condition of several state Republican parties. … ~
Politically, the USA leans mostly center-right, which is why Pres. Trump won the last two presidential elections and is on a trajectory to win next year in a bigger landslide than ever. It won’t be as easy for the other side to cheat next time, but they will still do everything that they can (inc. one fake indictment after another) to keep Pres. Trump from reaching the finish line. I think they will be so desperate that they will actually seek to delay the election.
Meanwhile, the Biden Crime Family’s influence peddling scheme is “shaping up to be one of the greatest corruption scandals in the history of Washington” (Turley). It’s actually the greatest ever, and as a result, look for Obama to finally be exposed as well.
Wandering Views 
Lap dogs.
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I believe the term Republicans are looking for is “quid pro quo”, as in there was none. Another good term is “nothing burger”. Honestly, attend and listen to the entire interview before posting on twitter – you lose credibility if you don’t even stay for the whole interview.
Democratic supporters occasionally claim Republicans are projecting when they make accusations, as in, its something they would do so obviously the Democrats will too. In this case, they think Hunter used his dad since its something Ivanka and Jared did – the difference being, they were actually members of the White House staff.
The vaccine reaction rate – did researchers take co-morbidities or other health issues into account? I remember that being a popular die regarding covid death rates.
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She won’t but I do love his chutzpah!
“In Florida we are unafraid to have an open and honest dialogue about the issues. And you clearly have no trouble ducking down to Florida on short notice,” DeSantis said. “So given your grave concern (which, I must assume, is sincere) about what you think our standards say, I am officially inviting you back down to Florida to discuss our African American History standards. We will be happy to host you here in Tallahassee. I will ask Dr. William Allen — instrumental in the development of our impressive new standards — to join. We welcome you, of course, to bring Randi Weingarten or someone else who shares your view about the standards.”
Dr. William Allen, former chairman of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights and Florida’s African American History Standards Workgroup member, slammed Harris last week over her “lies” about the curriculum after she seized on one sentence from the 216-page outline to make her false claims.
“I am prepared to meet as early as Wednesday of this week, but of course want to be deferential to your busy schedule should you already have a trip to the southern border planned for that day,” DeSantis added. “Please let me know as soon as possible. What an example we could set for the nation — a serious conversation on the substance of an important issue! I hope you’re feeling up to it.”
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Apparently a Manchin-Huntsman ticket would hurt Trump more than Biden. Manchin’s lack of support for Biden’s agenda would translate to a lack of support for Manchin outside of West Virginia.
Here’s the poll – small survey size though
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4108696-poll-shows-biden-beating-trump-even-if-manchin-runs/
Another issue for the Republicans is money and party management. Apparently some state Republican parties are broke. And Trump supporting PACs are paying his legal fees instead of helping the party.
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/the-quiet-collapse-of-four-key-state-republican-parties/
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NJ – The curriculum is usually a very wordy, cumbersome and over-loaded document. When a new health curriculum came out several years ago, many in my province protested and quoted obscure bits out of context. I have no doubt that the Florida curriculum is being cherry picked right now by many people pro or con. It happens for any part of the curriculum that people may feel contentious.
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hw: Still trying the ol’ whataboutism ploy that you claim to despise?
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Tychicus — Good point but in my defence, one is a “nothing burger” investigated for years while the other actually happened but nobody blinked.
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HRW, interesting polls — haven’t read the 2nd link, but from the first link:
(though as you said, small sample — and, I’d add, it’s still very early in the game):
~ Forty-four percent of voters would not vote for a Manchin-Huntsman ticket, and 31 percent said they probably would not. The poll noted the responses were not affected by whether Manchin or Huntsman was at the top of the ticket.
Biden’s support dropped from 47 percent to 37 percent and Trump’s dropped from 40 percent to 28 percent when a generic bipartisan ticket was offered as an alternative to Biden and Trump. When voters were asked about a potential Manchin-Huntsman ticket, Biden’s support dipped from 47 percent to 40 percent and Trump’s decreased from 40 to 34 percent.
The poll also asked voters who they would support if they believed a third-party candidate would be a “spoiler.” In the hypothetical scenario where voting for a third party could help elect Biden to the White House, 39 percent said they would vote for Biden, 37 percent said Trump and 20 percent would vote for the third party.
Inversely, when voting for a third party would help elect Trump, 43 percent of voters said they would support Biden, 33 percent would support Trump and 20 percent would vote for a third party. Overall, the poll found Biden would still have the most support even if a bipartisan ticket ran. ~
____________
Intriguing idea about a third-option this time around. I typically have no interest in third parties, they tend to be the extreme-of-the-extremes on both sides.
But we’re in somewhat unchartered territory for 2024. A third party wouldn’t win, but could capture more votes than those candidates have in the past.
Ross Perot probably came closest? I’d have to look all of that up.
OK, now I’ll check the second link. 🙂
I think Rove was right in saying whatever unfolds, this is going to be a “wild ride.”
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And the National Review piece, also very interesting and I’ve heard some discussion of this before in recent weeks:
~ … The seemingly frozen-in-amber GOP presidential primary is getting most of the attention and headlines, but under the radar, in at least a quartet of key states, the state Republican parties are collapsing — going broke and devolving into infighting little fiefdoms. Even worse for the GOP, these aren’t just any states — Arizona, Colorado, Michigan, and Minnesota all rank as either key swing states or once-purple states that would be tantalizing targets in a good year.
Meanwhile, the Georgia state Republican Party is spending a small fortune on the legal fees of those “alternate” Republican electors from the 2020 presidential election.
If Republicans are disappointed with the results of the 2024 elections — for the fourth straight cycle, mind you — a key factor will be the replacement of competent, boring, regular state-party officials with quite exciting, blustering nutjobs who have little or no interest in the basics of successfully managing a state party or the basic blocking and tackling involved in helping GOP candidates win elections.
When a political party adopts a mindset that prioritizes loyalty to a particular figure — in this case, Donald Trump — over all other traits, eventually it tends to run low on those other traits. We see the consequences of this mentality in the condition of several state Republican parties. … ~
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Stating the obvious, perhaps.
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The party itself seems to be on a path of self-destruction — unless someone wakes up and figures out how elections are conducted and won.
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Politically, the USA leans mostly center-right, which is why Pres. Trump won the last two presidential elections and is on a trajectory to win next year in a bigger landslide than ever. It won’t be as easy for the other side to cheat next time, but they will still do everything that they can (inc. one fake indictment after another) to keep Pres. Trump from reaching the finish line. I think they will be so desperate that they will actually seek to delay the election.
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Meanwhile, the Biden Crime Family’s influence peddling scheme is “shaping up to be one of the greatest corruption scandals in the history of Washington” (Turley). It’s actually the greatest ever, and as a result, look for Obama to finally be exposed as well.
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Harry S Truman
“Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I’ll show you a crook.”.
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