66 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 10-14-19

  1. oh, my, are you all having a holiday??
    We are working here. I am still trying to figure out each of my students. One today had no idea what to do to solve a simple puzzle. I don’t think anyone plays with him. He is missing some very basic skills.

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  2. To make the story of the forgetful bride even more of a story – I learned yesterday that Curt recently lost his mother to Alzheimer’s. I had written about it here when it happened. She was a prolific Christian writer and song writer.

    No wonder Curt wrote so beautifully.

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  3. Good evening Jo.
    Good morning everyone else.
    II spent about an hour last night trying to convince her that this is where we live and that I was going to get into the bed with her. I don’t know how it is now. She is still in bed and I am off to fix breakfast.


  4. As I said, she rambled for about an hour. Not believing that she was in our house and this is our bed. But I finally got her into bed and got in beside her. But she didn’t stop talking. Whatever came to her mind.
    I didn’t think of it until this morning, but the good thing is that not a single negative statement came out. And it would have.
    Things like:
    “I don’t know what I would do without you>”
    “”Think I’ll keep you”
    “I’m glad I have you?
    That sort of thing.

    But we’re back to whatever normal is for now.

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  5. It’s Día de la Raza in Latin America, celebrating the mixture of European and indigenous cultures.

    The community college where I teach calls it “Fall Break”. Can’t be politically incorrect, you know.

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  6. Good morning! It’s chilly here, and I am thankful for the coffee mug cozy I made that keeps my coffee warm.

    I don’t want to think what the world would be like without the USA as we have known it to be. My mind can not fathom the difference had we not won WWII. But I guess the question relates to going forward more than if it had not existed in the past?

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  7. Last night I went with a friend to an organ concert at a large Baptist church. It was a dedication service for the new anonymously donated $400,000 dollar organ. A specially trained musician did the concert which was fabulous. We sat. Lose enough for a good view, but the strategically placed screens and cameras were helpful to see his feet in action. How on earth does someone play a different part with each hand and each foot at the same time? I can’t pat my head and rub my tummy at the same time! That organ has so many sounds. I think it was called an orchestral instrument in that it can play all the different parts you might hear from a symphonic orchestra.

    We had dinner afterwards, the only ones at Chris Pizza restaurant, and we shut it down at their10 p.m closing. My friend was using a cane she has named Oscar the Third. The first Oscar was her grandmother’s. The she had Oscar, Jr., a fold-up version, when she traveled to Israel. So now she is using Oscar the Third which keeps her in line.

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  8. Assuming I would be alive, which is unlikely given I’m a first-generation Sicilian American on one side and a 12th generation American out of France and England on the other, I’d be a poor peasant living in a hovel in either Sicily or central England.

    Other, of course, than the ties to British royalty that you get when you do your ancestry through the LDS church . . . maybe I WOULD be a princess? 🙂

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  9. Good morning, Mumsee! Glad to hear about your daughter laughing about Bugs Bunny. We had that nice Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck video of Carnival of the Animals. I suggest that for more Bugs enjoyment.


  10. So now we have to call you Princess Michelle? (courtsy)

    I dreamed I had a big, last-minute assignment and I hadn’t taken care of some things in advance so was running around as editors were frantic … Not a pleasant dream. But when I woke up I realized I have a tight deadline today on a homeless story I need to finish up from last week along with getting to my long-overdue 4 p.m. eye doctor appointment.

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  11. If there were no USA, God would have handled history all another way.

    Today also is Italian Heritage Appreciation Day in the County of LA — a bone thrown by the county supervisors when they nixed Columbus Day. If I remember right, the city of LA refused to go that route and follow suit, but I may be remembering wrong. Columbus, though, is out.

    I’m beginning to love my patio again, at long last. It’s taken a huge beating over the last few years with the house and garage work and painting and everything getting shifted about. Most of the time it’s been a cluttered mess. With a few more touches, a little more paint, it’ll be there.

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  12. Roscuro, yes it is. Happy Thanksgiving to you!

    We had our turkey dinner at our friend’s place on Saturday – it was very fun, meeting new people and getting to know others better.

    No family could come home for either couple, so it was very good. We played games until quite late – my stomach hurt from laughing so much.

    Today is a relaxing day, hopefully husband will get the winter tires on the Subaru today though.

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  13. Columbus was not perfect. Neither am I. I appreciate living in this country, I appreciate some of what Columbus did, and I know very little about him other than what I have read. I am celebrating God’s use of him.

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  14. I went to visit the city church yesterday. I enjoyed the part of the drive that was not through Toronto (to quote my father, driving through Toronto requires nerves of steel). The autumn colours were in their full glory, and in the early morning, the frost was white on the ground. It was good to see my friends and fellowship with them. The new city church pastor preached the Thanksgiving sermon from II Corinthians 4:7-18:

    ‘Now we have this treasure in clay jars, so that this extraordinary power may be from God and not from us. We are pressured in every way but not crushed; we are perplexed but not in despair; we are persecuted but not abandoned; we are struck down but not destroyed. We always carry the death of Jesus in our body, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body. For we who live are always given over to death because of Jesus, so that Jesus’ life may also be revealed in our mortal flesh. So death works in us, but life in you. And since we have the same spirit of faith in keeping with what is written, I believed, therefore I spoke, we also believe, and therefore speak. We know that the One who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and present us with you. Indeed, everything is for your benefit, so that grace, extended through more and more people, may cause thanksgiving to increase to God’s glory.

    ‘Therefore we do not give up. Even though our outer person is being destroyed, our inner person is being renewed day by day. For our momentary light affliction is producing for us an absolutely incomparable eternal weight of glory. So we do not focus on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.’ [HCSB]

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  15. Today, husband will take daughter to the doctor where she will attempt to convince him she is an angel and needs to be off her meds. I forewarned him last week at the pregnancy appt Meanwhile, twenty two and I will be headed off to preg center followed by la maz class. Do they still do that??

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  16. When I visited Carol while her pastor was there, he also spoke on those verses, Roscuro. Appropriate also considering Carol’s declining physical abilities and her beau (who also was with us) being in a wheelchair.

    Glad you were able to visit your former church.

    Fall is a glorious time of year.


  17. No USA? Look at Syria today and get an idea. Look at what Europe would be without the US defeating the Germans in WWI. Of course, there might not have been a Hitler without the US.

    Of course, America is more than the USA. There are Canada and all the Latin American countries.

    If Columbus hadn’t told the rest of Europe about his find, perhaps another explorer would have come along. If Italy had financed his trip, then Spain would not have been as powerful, though they could have prevented a lot of the gold from getting to Italy by blocking the Strait of Gibraltar.

    But as said, God would have done things a different way.

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  18. Is the bird a gyrfalcon? I photographed my second falcon species yesterday, the merlin. (I’ve gotten kesrels before.) But the gyrfalcon is a lovely one and I would love to see it.


  19. The main point is: The concept of “of the people, by the people and for the people” ” is a foreign concept to most of humanity. Slowly adopted in some places, but routinely ignored and fought against in most of the world.
    I believe it is not a viable concept and will disappear before this century is over.
    Time for the seven trumpets.

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  20. Peter, Syria today has not been the product of a vacuum. In fact, its current existence is directly connected to the end of WWI, when the region became briefly independent from the Turkish Ottoman Empire before becoming a French mandate. The U.S. Congress refusal to join the League of Nations directly affected the forming of that French mandate, as the U.S. refusal to become involved in the brokering of peace allowed the French to ignore the promises of independence that Britain, France, and the U.S. had made to the Arab inhabitants of the former Ottoman province, Arabs who were allies of the Allies. The French occupation deliberately accentuated the religious differences of the various Christian and Muslims groups within Syria, contributing to the divide between Sunni and Alawite (Shiite sect, of whom Assad is a member), with the hapless Christians being caught in the middle, which has characterized Syria’s long Civil War. France’s brutal military response to Syrian resistance of the occupation, including the heavy bombing of civilian areas, set a brutal precedent that both the current Assad and his equally tyrannical father have imitated. More recently, the dangerous conflict with ISIS in Iraq and Syria which has led to the current situation, where Turkey (seat of the former Ottoman Empire) feels it necessary to oppose the one group who stopped the advance of ISIS in Iraq and Syria, was directly connected to the U.S. occupation of and withdrawal from Iraq. To quote John Donne:
    “No man is an island,
    Entire of itself,
    Every man is a piece of the continent,
    A part of the main.
    If a clod be washed away by the sea,
    Europe is the less.
    As well as if a promontory were.
    As well as if a manor of thy friend’s
    Or of thine own were:
    Any man’s death diminishes me,
    Because I am involved in mankind,
    And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
    It tolls for thee. “


  21. Whew, did something I’d been struggling with all weekend. Our immediate editor — who has not been especially popular, and that’s to put it mildly in some cases — sent out an email after hours on Friday that she was leaving to take a job at the local university.

    Of course, it’s expected to write something, often shared with the group, about these announcements, but I simply drew a blank so pretended I didn’t see it all weekend. I wound up just sending her a private msg this morning that may have been less than completely truthful in some aspects (“sorry” to hear she’s leaving etc.), but praised her (honestly) for the work involved in her having to take on overseeing two newspapers in these past couple of years as the chain had to combine tasks with fewer people. She just had one of those strident personalities that could easily rub people wrong. But she also was quick to praise, something our last editor was too slow to do (if he even did it much at all).

    Like Columbus, no one’s perfect.

    Chas, either way, despite differences in eschatology, whether things will look up over the long haul or not, we can all agree that we are progressing in the march toward the culmination of the New Heavens and New Earth, amen and amen. It’s hard to judge future history trends by specific moments (even when they’re 100+ years long) in time.

    I will say this era in our nation pretty much stinks. 🙂

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  22. Thinking of how Canadians (and Brits, too) spell the word colour . . . appreciate that extra u in the word. Colors are so exquisite that it seems fitting they have the longer and more sophisticated spelling.

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  23. I am working on doing the ladies’ Bible study on the life or the story of Joseph. It seems like too much material to cover in an hour. For those who put together such lessons, how do you pick and choose what to include in such a study? This is my first time to make up a study from scratch.

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  24. Hi y’all! I missed you!

    I am jumping in here, but will slowly catch up on the several days of comments that I have missed. If anything particularly important has happened that I should know about sooner rather than later, please let me know. (I will be keeping up with the current prayer and daily threads as I catch up on the ones I missed.)

    It has been ten days since my router died. The new router was installed this morning, and looks like it comes from outer space – or is trying to contact outer space. 😀

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  25. Interesting day here today. Besides the man coming to set up the router, take away an old computer to recycle, and also take (and later bring back) the desktop that needed work, a police officer came to my door. (But not when the computer guy was here.)

    Being Columbus Day, Boy has the day off from school. If X had signed off on the last agreement they had worked on, he would have been able to pick Boy up around 10 or 10:30. But the current agreement in effect says he still has to wait until 3:00, same as the days when Boy goes to school, and Nightingale told me to stick to that.

    Well, X texted me at 10:40 to tell me he was here to pick up Boy. But Boy had been messing around with my phone, and had accidentally turned the volume off, so I didn’t even see the text until a little before noon. Shortly after noon, a police officer came to my door to do a welfare check on Boy because X had called the police. 😦

    The officer was nice about it, but after I informed him about the actual current agreement, he suggested that I should let Boy go with his dad since he has the day off from school. I know that Nightingale would have preferred that I stick to the agreement, but the visit from the officer rattled me a bit. So when X texted a few moments later to say that he would be here in ten minutes to pick up his son, I did not protest.

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  26. Last Monday, X was supposed to drop off Boy at 5:30. Around 5:00, I was in the kitchen, having just finished my dinner, with my phone charging in the living room. X was back with Boy almost half an hour early, though, and since my phone was in the other room, I didn’t hear the text come in. He dropped him off anyway, without me coming out to meet him, and drove away.

    Fortunately, I noticed the text shortly after, and quickly went to the door. Boy was waiting near a tree near our driveway, and ran to me when I opened the door. If I had not been home, or if something had happened to me at home, Boy would not have been able to get in the house, and would be on his own. In his shyness, I don’t know if he would go over to our neighbor’s house. (I guess that is something to talk with him about. And maybe give him a key?)

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  27. On a brighter note, I feel that I have experienced a breakthrough in my mind and heart over Chickadee’s situation. It is still a heartache – for good reasons – but I have come to the place of being able to more deeply entrust her and her situation to God. It seemed to come upon me all of a sudden, after something Nightingale said, and I felt more peace in my heart about it.

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  28. So, Kizzie, it seems the policeman encouraged the boy’s father to get his way in spite of a court order? I am sure they will not be happy when it keeps happening. 😦 Sorry, but that seems wrong of him to advise you to do that. It is too bad that visitation cannot be worked out without all the court action, but since it is needed, one would think the advice of lawyer and court would be followed unless you really believe it is detrimental to your grandson. I understand how that must have felt to have him show up at your doorstep. Now you know and need a plan in place for both that and the case of having a locked door when the boy comes home. I know you mentioned the latter.

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  29. Kizzie, do you not have a doorbell or a way someone who is outside the door can make his presence known inside?

    In Chicago, when I went away for a few days my landlady would lock the outer door, giving no access to the doorbell. One time I returned a day early (I didn’t yet have a cell phone) with no way to let her know I was home. I didn’t have a key to the outside door or the back door, and though I yelled she didn’t hear me. I went and stood outside her son’s house (he lived around the corner) and after he and his wife came home, I rang their doorbell, but no one came to the door. I ended up walking to the house of someone from church, who looked up my landlady in the phone book and called her . . . but it was a frustrating end to a frustrating few days away (I came home early because the conference was unpleasant for me and I just didn’t want to pay another night’s hotel fee). To me it didn’t seem like a good idea to have the doorbell behind a locked door. In case of a fire or other emergency, it would have been hard to communicate with the upstairs landlady from outside the house.

    If you don’t have a doorbell or other way he or others can communicate from outside the house, it would probably be a good idea to get one.


  30. Thankful that Kizzie is back. That officer may have a bone to pick with the courts and may be a divorced father himself. In my opinion, he abused his power as if he were on an ego trip and made a grab for unauthorized power based on wearing a uniform. I do not feel it was right, but probably would have done the same as you did, Kizzie. It can be used as a learning situation to have a strategy in place for next time. I wonder if you had not heard the knock at the door would the officer have assumed you were out with the Boy and could not have been reached and let it slide because it had been covered by the court?

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  31. Welcome back, Kizzie!

    Janice, your 2:20 almost sounds like a haiku. I know the numbers of syllables are all wrong but something about it…


  32. Hi Kizzie. Welcome back!

    I, too, thought that officer was unauthorized to say what he did. One thing I thought of later, though, was I wonder if he thought X would get disgruntled not getting his way and Boy would be safer for that reason if he could be picked up when X wanted.

    Still wrong, though, to essentially suggest to you, “Let’s just let the guy have his way.”

    An idiotic suggestion, or a power grab, or…?

    I would definitely report that officer’s visit and what he suggested. That would be intimidating to have such a thing told to you by police.

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  33. Chas, do you have pictures of the homes where you previously lived with Elvera? Would a pictorial “timeline” of places where she’s lived with you help her understand the progression of homes of the past to your current home? If nothing else, perhaps you could ask her, if you have such a collection of photographs, to point to “home” when she asks you to take her home. You’d know where she’s talking about, and may have some additional insights into what to say when she asks about going home.

    Just a thought that may not be the least bit helpful, but thought I’d try. I’m so sorry. You know you do have my prayers, though.

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  34. Cheryl – Due to the protective order, X is not allowed at the house. That is why he picks up and drops off Boy at the top of the lane.

    Did I mention that X only texted me once about being here earlier before he called the police? He didn’t even try to get my attention by calling my phone. That was definitely a manipulative intimidation tactic. (And I did indeed feel intimidated into letting him take him when he legally did not have a right to.)

    Nightingale said that since he cannot manipulate her anymore, because of that protective order, he is using the custody issues to do so, and he is also trying to get to her through manipulating me. What a mess. 😦

    And today, X is overlapping the times of two custody agreements – the one currently in place and the one he did not sign. According to the current one, he should have Boy from 3:00 to 5:30. The one he did not sign would let him have him that time on school Mondays, but on holidays or other Mondays off, he would have him from 10:30 to 3:30 or 4:00 (Nightingale was not sure on the ending time). X brought him home at 5:45.

    Nightingale has recorded all this (including last Monday’s drop off without knowing if I was there) in an email to her lawyer.

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  35. The way to deal with a volatile person is NOT to hand a child over to him, IMO. That officer would have no idea of all that has gone on in the past. I am inclined to think he may be a divorced father or know one and so sided with the father. Nevertheless, there already was a court ordered deal and the officer was not included in it. Unprofessional.

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  36. True, but he let an aggressive young man, who was in the wrong, browbeat an “elderly” woman who was in the right.

    (I probably would have done the same thing).

    Nightingale is correct that both the lawyer and the judge need to know how this was poorly handled.

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  37. Kizzie, I understand that X is not allowed at your house. I don’t understand why the Boy didn’t come to your door when he was dropped off. To put it another way: when I was really little (first and second grade), Mom or one of my brothers always walked to the school to pick me/us up after school. (When I was in second grade, it would have been my sister and me, not just me.) When I was a little older, the instructions changed: my sister and brother and I were to meet one another at the front of the school if we got off at the same time (dismissal time was 2:15 for up through third grade, then 3:15 for fourth grade and up), and we were to look around and see if Mom or a brother was there, and if not we were to head for home and they would meet us somewhere in the park as we walked toward home. I think it was Mom’s way of transitioning us toward walking or riding our bikes all the way home alone. Probably when I was in third and my sister in second they sometimes had us go partway alone, and then when my sister was in third and my brother in first they got chaperoned home and I in fourth sometimes did and sometimes didn’t, but I don’t remember the details.

    All that to say, the idea is for you to be out there to meet him, but if you aren’t there, shouldn’t he walk toward your home rather than standing and waiting? Or is there a reason he can’t (such as heavy traffic)? A child who is purposefully walking somewhere is safer than one who is just standing about looking lonely.


  38. Thanks Six. I doubt that she has a particular place in mind. But it is now always the same. It is almost bedtime for her and she is OK tonight.
    You never know how it will be.


  39. Made it through the eye test. Some vision change, esp in the right eye (which I’d noticed), not huge, but warrants a new prescription this time. I got estimates from the office to order progressives (with the needed thin lens w/coating & transitions) using my own frames. It came to about $470.

    For reading glasses, using my own frames, it would be $270 or thereabouts, I’m not remembering the amounts exactly. I need 2 pair of reading glasses so I can always have one pair with me — I usually keep them at home and will forget to grab them if I’m heading into the office. They’ve become more and more important to me for computer work.

    I think I’ll check in with lenscrafters, though, to see what their price would be. If it’s not much different, I’ll use my doctor’s office. But sometimes there are sales at Lenscrafters.

    He wants me to come back in a couple weeks for dilation — little bit of cloudiness on one lens, he said nothing really to worry about for now, but he wanted a clearer look at that.


  40. Cheryl – He was safe where he was for that short amount of time, as we live on a private lane so there was not any traffic or people milling about. I think he stopped to think about what he should do. He said it was only about a minute before I came out. I doubt he would have just stayed there by the tree for much longer if I had not come out when I did. It was a new situation, and he didn’t know what to do at first. We will talk to him about a better plan for if this happens again.

    Back to the police officer. I am now not sure if he made that suggestion before or after I told him about the current agreement. Either way, it was a “soft” suggestion, if you know what I mean, like “Maybe you could. . .”

    As for my calling the matter a “potentially volatile situation”, at that point X was probably still using his calm, reasonable voice – the one that fools people – so the officer wouldn’t necessarily yet suspect that X could be not-so-calm-and-reasonable. The “potentially volatile situation” I had in mind was between the parents, but not necessarily in person. (If he did approach her in person, he would be going to jail, and he knows that.)

    But siccing the police on me certainly did have the effect of intimidating me. Nightingale still
    wishes I had not given in, but I think she understands why I did. She said that X knows that I can be more easily bullied than she can, and that is why she did not want me to be the third party person. She mentioned that in her email to her lawyer.

    I had made the remark to her that maybe this stunt will work against him in court. Nightingale replied with a bit of a cry in her voice, something like, “It never matters what he does!” 😦


  41. Roscuro- By referencing Syria I meant the current situation where the US pulled out and the Turks have free range to wipe them out.


  42. I wonder if X told Boy to wait outside until Grandma opened the door for him.

    If something happened to Boy in the time he was supposed to be with his dad, but while on or near the property where his mom lives (as documented by the text that announced the drop-off), who would be held responsible? It seems X is hardly ever held responsible for anything, and I’m sure that fact isn’t lost on him.

    I suspect this is another of X’s manipulations. I wouldn’t put it past him that he might have been hoping something might happen to Boy to make Nightingale (and/or Kizzie) look negligent. It’s a busy time of evening, with supper preparations and such, that a text could easily get missed. A half-hour-early drop-off would result in a lengthy wait outside if he was commanded not to go in until welcomed.

    Would Boy obey his father if he’d told him to wait outside until you appeared, Kizzie?


  43. Yeah, I’m Mimi. 🙂

    I think that if X dropped him off without knowing if I were home or not, he would be the one in trouble. Although I am sure he would try to spin things in his favor.

    Boy is naive and trusting, so I think he would obey his father about staying outside. But he wouldn’t be able to get in anyway, since I keep the doors locked. (Nightingale does not want Boy to have his own key yet, since then X would have access to it.)

    What to do in the event of Mimi not coming out should be discussed.

    I am so tired, and need to get to bed. (Meant to get to bed earlier than this.) Wishing you all a good night and sweet sleep.


  44. We have a “Mimi” at church, but that is short for her real name, Miriam. She’s not a grandma. 😉

    But all the grandmas I know around these parts are “Grandma,” including this grandma. 🙂

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