42 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 6-17-19

  1. Morning all. First day of vacation and it felt like another Saturday for me. My ribs are hurting, so I am taking it easy. I have, what do they call it, floating ribs. or slipping ribs…

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  2. Morning…a beautiful photo up there!! It is overcast here in the forest this morning and in the forties…the furnace is running making it comfortable inside!
    So sorry to hear of the pain Jo…does the doctor suggest some sort of binding to hold you together?! Hoping for everything to right itself!
    I am off this morning to attend a Medicare workshop…I trust I will be even more confused after sitting there for 2 hours 😳 I have parts A and B but now must decide on C,D,E or G….they are dropping F next year…my oh my!!

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  3. Good morning. Looks like another beautiful summer day here. I have not been out in it as seventeen year old son came home last night, and we don’t leave him alone in the house or alone with the other children. Though I may scoot out the door for a few minutes to feed the chickens and turkeys.


  4. Nancyjill, if you have the option of Medicare Aetna Advantage, it is great. Then you do not have to decide on those parts. In Georgia. It offers more than Medicare because the private company better manages money than the Federal government.


  5. Off to VBS. I’m watching the younger children of the teachers before VBS and then running outdoor rec during VBS. Busy morning with our daughter leaving this afternoon.

    QOD: How do you handle panhandlers?

    I’ll tell the story this afternoon or tomorrow when life settles down.


  6. Okay, I am back. I was correct, a beautiful day. First day of VBS today. I have one child attending and one and a half working. Twenty two has recreation and seventeen daughter will help the first grade teacher the two days she is off OUI. That leaves me with thirteen year old. I have many plans to keep him busy, not to worry.

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  7. Panhandlers: I haven’t met any in this country, but in Europe….. I used to give a few coins until I was made aware of what a racket it is. Then my time and money went to the Salvation Army.

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  8. Many liberals hate the Salvation Army, for supposedly discriminating against homosexuals (because of their religious stance). It makes me so sad that they can’t see past their agenda, that they are willing to put an end to an organization that has helped so many people through the years.


  9. Funny story: I have something of a reputation for coming down to supper late, either because I do not hear the call or because I am busy doing something. Last evening, I was summoned to supper by Tiny Niece, who likes to run errands. She and I went down to supper together and sat down together. When we had started eating, Second In-law, who has a deadpan sense of humour and loves to tease me, looked at Tiny Niece and inquired seriously if Aunt (roscuro) was going to come down. Tiny Niece, who is almost three, did not miss a beat. She looked right past me towards the stairs and said, musingly, “I think she’ll be down in a minute.” Her father, keeping a straight face, asked, “She isn’t down yet?” Tiny Niece then refocused on me as if she saw me for the first time, reached out a seemingly cautious finger to touch me on the arm, and exclaimed, “She’s sitting beside me.”

    I nearly choked on my food from laughter.

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  10. Hubby often cooked dinner for us, and would announce that it was ready before it actually was, because he didn’t want to wait for us to meander in. Of course, we caught on to that quickly, and still took our time, but still arriving before dinner was fully ready.

    What was frustrating for me when I was cooking dinner was that Hubby would want to finish up whatever he was reading on the computer before coming to dinner and would often go on to something else. I often had to re-heat my dinner in the microwave a few times (each time thinking he would be right out – because he had said he would be right out) before he would finally appear. But he did not want to wait for anyone.

    It was frustrating at the time, but funny later.

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  11. I encounter many panhandlers in the city. I just quietly say, ‘I’m sorry” if they directly approach me for money. Those who do so make me really uncomfortable, and they tend to be younger men. The city has a higher crime rate than other nearby cities, including Toronto, and so caution is necessary. I have no intention of pulling out my wallet or change purse for a man accosting me on the street for money. The older ones who just sit and request spare change from passers-by, I merely walk past. Many of them have a particular beat and I know I will see this individual on that street corner, etc. I know something of the social supports available to the people in the city. The city church sits right in the inner city, just down the block from one of the shelters. Yet, last year, there was a homeless encampment right beside in the church on the wide sidewalk. The church ensured that all of the people in the encampment had been offered housing before the city moved them on, and they had been. I know from listening to conversations between homeless or formerly homeless men on the bus that some do not like the rules at the shelters (no drugs, no alcohol, etc.) and will not stay. The vast majority of the panhandlers are male. I can only think of one who is female whom I have encountered, but there is a considerable, and after a certain time of evening, noticeable population of prostitutes in the same area. Once again, I know there are ministries, including from the church, reaching out to them.

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  12. I washed a load of clothes this morning. While buttoning the collars on my shirts, I remembered that in the AF, we didn’t have buttons. There was a device we called a spiffy that kept the collars down.
    I don’t know why I unbutton the collars to wash the shirts. I may stop that.

    LOL on Phos’ tale. I wish I could “Like”, but can’t


  13. We don’t have as many panhandlers as we used to (though there is a lot more homeless). It became a big issue a few years ago and people generally decided to stop giving to them as it seemed to be becoming a racket. They used to be fixtures in every shopping center parking lot and freeway offramp or gas station, often with children or even babies in tow, holding handwritten cardboard signs saying “God Bless” or “Out of work” or “Hungry” or other messages.

    Like roscuro mentioned, we all realize now that we have many churches and other services in place offering help so most have become convinced it made more sense to give to those ministries or agencies instead, knowing that the money indeed would go toward essentials and not to drugs, etc. As a result, we see fewer and fewer panhandlers as it seems not to be very profitable anymore.

    Still, it is hard, and on occasion I’ll still give to a panhandler, but not nearly as often as I once may have. I remember buying a sandwich for one man who was in the bushes of a store I was going into, he’d asked for help. So instead of giving him money I bought a sandwich and soda which he seemed to genuinely appreciate. That was a number of years ago and I believe I also passed on a phone number of a church where I knew there was a ministry that could help.

    Whether one gives or not, I do think it’s a good gesture to pray for them silently.

    But i don’t think money given to panhandlers often goes toward good things. The former skid row cop who now runs our waterfront homeless mission, though, says he still gives as he can’t say no. Even if they’re buying alcohol, he said, they ‘need’ that at the moment. He’s a softy and I admire his deep compassion as I know he also takes the time and tries to work with them to get them the real help they need in Jesus and a bed at the mission (though these days it’s usually full every night). Only a few will opt stay on, he said, for the mission’s more serious program of rehabilitation through addiction rehab, work, and Bible study.

    Beautiful picture, I keep thinking I need to get out and take some jacaranda shots before the trees all shed their beautiful purple flowers.

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  14. Floating rib: One of the last two ribs. A rib is said to be “floating” if it does not attach to the sternum (the breast bone) or to another rib. There are usually 12 pairs of ribs in all. Each pair of ribs is attached to the building blocks of the spine (the vertebrae) in the back.


  15. I have never heard of “floating rib” before. I can see how it would be a problem.
    I seldom give to panhandlers, but have done so before. If appropriate, I would buy a meal. I bought breakfast for a guy several years ago. He selected breakfast. I paid and left.

    Elvera has a “big chair”. It is a recliner. Cost over $700. It has an electrical device that raises and lowers the chair. It is an ideal situation for Elvera. However.
    Elvera was sitting in her chair. The electricity was off. I asked if she wanted to go outside with me. She said yes. Problem was: She was in the reclining position and there was no way to get the chair up. The outage only lasted about 45 minutes. But she was a prisoner in the recliner until it came back. No. It would have taken more than me to get her out.
    But the outage was short, as they usually are. So I wasn’t worried.

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  16. Expanding on what DJ said, “floating ribs” are normal and we all have them. The lower ribs are not attached to the sternum or any other bones in front, thus are called “floating”. They’re only a problem when the front ends “slip” out of position, causing problems for surrounding ligaments and other structures, and associated pain.

    Jo, is there any treatment for that, or do you just have to rest until it settles down?


  17. When I first saw “floating ribs” I thought someone used too much BBQ sauce. But that does sound painful now that DJ and Kevin have explained it.


  18. Safely back in time from picking up the VBS person, before the OUI person gets back. Then we are off in a bit to the pregnancy center for counseling and encouragement. Probably take everybody to Taco John’s for supper. Eleven year old is making eggs for midday meal.

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  19. This is a five-year-old HuffPost article so things may have changed, but it highlights the dilemma that Christian (and other faith-based) organizations face when taking any kind of government funding for their work.

    (Our local homeless mission is supported by churches and has refused to take any government funding specifically because of these restrictions that can be imposed. I think it’s the best way to go for church-based relief organizations. The funding is appealing but it stifles the real work in the end.)

    ** And because this is the HuffPost, sadly, there’s some inherent bias in the way this article was written, including some ‘scare’ terminology such as “fundamentalist” and the implication that the organization was deliberately “hiding” its true mission to get hold of this money. In reality, the faith-based movement under Bush was designed to allow programs to expand using additional funding from the government. But as we have seen, that becomes an inherent problem and probably isn’t very workable when it comes to allowing church charities their freedom.



    In 2004 a group of 19 plaintiffs filed a lawsuit against the Salvation Army. The group claimed that the organization, which is a registered evangelical church and charity organization in the United States, was using public taxpayer money to proselytize their evangelical religious beliefs, discriminate, and terminate employees based on religious beliefs. …

    … George W. Bush’s administration and their “faith-based initiative,” a program that has been continued under the Obama administration, made it very easy for organizations like the Salvation Army to receive taxpayer money for their services. Both administrations have consistently dodged questions about workplace-discrimination procedures at such organizations.

    The Salvation Army receives millions in federal funding, around $188 million in New York alone, to run its homeless shelters, soup kitchens and after-school programs. Around 300 New York employees are paid with federal funds, according to the NYCLU.

    For more than a decade, while receiving federal funds, the Salvation Army allegedly has been forcing the hungry to sit through sermons in order to receive the food they desperately need, and forcing their employees to be held to fundamentalist religious standards, standards that have come into question in the past when an Australian media relations director for the Salvation Army implied that gays and lesbians deserve death because that punishment is supposedly in line with scripture. The organization quickly apologized for the official’s statement and asserted that it did not fit their Christian beliefs.

    For decades it’s been charged that the Salvation Army has hidden behind its religious charitable status to get away with such actions, but this new settlement finally says that regardless of their religious status, they can no longer use public funding for proselytizing and discrimination. …


  20. Well Medicare 101 went on for two and a half hours and I am still confused. Towards the end of our time the speaker kept interspersing the terms Medicare Advantage and Medigap Supplement…one man would suggest to her she meant the one over the other…..not that it was confusing enough to begin with! Husband just wants to go with A and B and forget the rest. I suggested to him we call nephew who deals with the stuff in KY and just get some tips…even though coverages vary state to state and even county to county within our state! I have four more months to figure some of this out.
    Thanks Janice for your insight…Colorado doesn’t offer that one…what’s good for one is good for all?….not when your are dealing with government programs evidently 😳

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  21. Well that would be interchanging the terms…I honestly don’t know where intersperse came from…..a list of suggested words as I was typing…then interjecting it into my comment…I think I need a nap!

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  22. Medicare is entirely confusing. I went with a broker who spent over an hour with me going over my doctors I wanted to keep, medicines, etc., to come up with a plan. Yes, they get commissions from these places, but as a newbie I was lost and a good friend said she went with a broker to make it easier for her as well.

    The Medicare Advantage plans don’t cost as much up front in premiums, but I think the co-pays and actual charges for services can be higher? Broker, though, suggested I might want to switch to that if I can ever retire as it would save a lot of money. Lol

    There also was a lot of debate over F vs. N plans. I have N but the insurance person in my GP’s office said F was better. She said “Remember, F is for ‘full’ (coverage), ‘N’ is for nothing.” But … F cost a whole lot more up front in premiums.

    Anyway, the whole thing is really confusing, I think. I thought it would be a simple thing of just transferring over (and for Part A that’s true, but that’s *only* your hospitalization, not all the other stuff).

    I’m sticking to the eye and dental plans my company offers, meanwhile — even the broker said there’s no beating those when he looked at what I was paying for coverage.


  23. Those are all decisions in my future. As long as I am working over here, I can use my company plan, but I will only have a brief time to sign up when I finally retire in two years. Good to get some information ahead of time.


  24. Our overall company plans were getting prohibitive (and they’re now limited to Kaiser only) so I am saving money by having switched everything (except eye and dental) over to the Medicare plan. You have to register for Medicare (Plan A) when you turn 65 but you can wait to get the other add-ons if you want to keep opting for a company plan instead.


  25. The Salvation Army is a denomination, like Southern Baptists. As such, letting their main existence in the eyes of most residents of the US be a “charity” is a confusing place to be. They may do their charity-type work well; I don’t actually know. But once I found out they were a denomination, and one with rather iffy doctrine, I too thought they were confusing and potentially even deceiving people. (If the Lutherans rang bells outside a business, I wouldn’t give to them. I’m not Lutheran! If they wanted to raise funds for a specific cause, say translating a Bible into Chinese or building a crisis pregnancy center, I might. But general fund-raising? No.)

    Of course they can have any stipulation they want on food they hand out, including the hardly onerous requirement of listening to a sermon. But they are trying to do two things at once (be a denomination and be a charity), and that will inevitably cause problems.


  26. I have Part A and Part B…I am a card carrying old person now! I have even paid my first quarterly Part B premium!! Lots of hassle getting signed up for me but boy they certainly got that first bill here quickly!!!
    It was explained to me today that part F is going away and will now be part G….if one has part F at the end of this year you will be grandfathered in. I don’t want an HMO because I like my doctor and I want to decide who I see and where I go for care. I may get the very lowest premium part D just not to be penalized when and if I decide on a greater coverage Part D. I take one pill and the monthly premiums along with the deductible would be as much as if I just paid out of pocket like I do now.


  27. Keeping my doctors also was important for me. And I am on the more expensive PPO because of that I guess. The HMOs (Advantage plans fall under that I believe?) are cheaper and I may wind up going that route when necessary.

    I have one very expensive prescription, my eyedrops. Since they’re brand-name only there’s very little break on those. I’m being charged $500+ out of pocket for a 3-month supply (but seems like it cost more last year). I’m only picking up one month at a time and I’ve been able to ration them to last twice as long.


  28. I don’t think I will go in to the physical therapist for my ribs. She is good at pushing and pushing them until they are back in place. But I did a search and nowhere did it mention doing that. Mostly just rest, which I have been doing. I will go to my chiropractor when I am next at home.


  29. Interesting article on Beth Moore. I did one of her studies here and decided not to do any more. They seemed to be to be all about her and not about the Bible. They did not lead me deeper into the Word.


  30. I used to watch the soap General Hospital in the 80s, in which was a fictitious restaurant named The Floating Rib.

    Dusting: I dust the piano when I think students might notice it needs it. Maybe every couple weeks. Everything else gets dusted much less frequently.

    Panhandlers: I avert my eyes. I never feel comfortable looking at them after I spot them. Red lights at intersections where they camp seem to take forever to turn green — I stay uncomfortable the whole time I’m sitting there.

    Roscuro’s story about Tiny Niece reminds me of how 6th Arrow also doesn’t miss a beat. Yesterday, when 2nd Arrow and her hubby were leaving our house, son-in-law and 6th were down in the foyer, when I heard SIL say to her, “Your shoes are untied.”


    SIL: “Made you look!”

    6th: slowly, measured: “I was directing your eyes to look down at my bare feet.”


    We had a nice weekend. The baby shower Saturday was fun — the soon-to-be new parents enjoyed it and told us so and thanked us. A few people, including SIL, also said the games were fun. One person apparently complained about the games to other people — well, whatever — but I wasn’t going to let that ruin my weekend. The guests of honor had a good time, and I’m pleased about that.

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  31. Cheryl – Leave it to the editor to catch a typo. However, I can make the excuse that in Spanish, ‘rod’ is pronounced like ‘road’ in English.


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