“Many Democrats and some Republicans announced they would vote against a short-term deal, criticizing the continued use of stopgap bills rather than funding the government through more long-term, stable mechanisms. The minority party has also shown frustration about progress on talks toward a bipartisan immigration bill, which Democrats wanted to pass this week to protect hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants from deportation.
The parties also remain divided over long-term defense and non-defense spending levels
“We’re going to continue to do all we can,” McConnell said on the Senate floor after the shutdown started. “We’ll vote again so the American people know who stands for them. And when our friends across the aisle remember who it is they actually represent, we’ll be ready to come together in a bipartisan discussion that will be necessary to clean up all of this mess.””
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Just a quick note here as well. They keep talking about hundreds of thousands of illegal dreamers. Reality is there are 3.6 million dreamers, with only 800,000 signed up for DACA. They aren’t just seeking protections for the 800,000.
“The political debate over the fate of “DREAMers” — undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children — has overlooked just how many there are in the country today: about 3.6 million.
That number of people whose lives risk being uprooted is not widely known, in large part because so much public attention has been focused recently on 800,000 mostly young DREAMers accepted into the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.
This smaller group of DREAMers is in the spotlight because President Trump terminated DACA in September, saying it was an illegal overreach of executive authority that can only come from Congress, which is negotiating with Trump on a compromise immigration plan.
While many politicians use DREAMer and DACA interchangeably, the terms are “not a distinction without a difference,” said House Minority Whip Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Md.
DREAMers got their name from the DREAM Act, a bill that has been proposed in Congress since 2001, but never passed, that would protect that group of immigrants.
The 3.6 million estimate of undocumented immigrants brought to U.S. before their 18th birthday comes from the Migration Policy Institute, a non-partisan, non-profit think tank that studies global immigration patterns. That is roughly a third of all undocumented immigrants in the country and does not include millions of their immediate family members who are U.S. citizens.
A number so large raises the stakes for both sides in the dispute over whether to deport DREAMers, allow them to stay under prescribed conditions or provide them with a path to citizenship. “
““Hostage-taking” is the term that was used in 2013 when Ted Cruz and a few other Republicans blocked government funding to try to force repeal of ObamaCare. You can’t deny people essential government services just because you didn’t get your way on some other policy! Now here we are, five years later, and Democrats are prepared to deny those same services because they haven’t gotten their way on a DREAM amnesty with essentially no strings attached. Burnett can’t help noticing. And when she confronts Ed Markey about it, all he can do is yammer about how it’s Republicans, not Democrats, who are supposedly holding DREAMers hostage.”
Ricky @8:01 That’s a group of anti-Trumpists sitting around a table rehashing last years anti-Trump talking points with maybe a teaspoon of intelligent analysis between them. Two minutes you won’t get back.
Although I have no idea how things should proceed for a better outcome in this situation, I can’t help but see this as a good thing. North and South Korea need to have a better relationship, and especially in light of all the missiles being launched out of the North, this is not a bad beginning.
I have my own ideas about the government shut-down. I think if the government is shut down for more than 2 weeks, all Senators and Representatives should be recalled to their home states for special votes of confidence based on dereliction of duty. If their constituents are happy with their performance, they will be confirmed. The positions of those not confirmed by the electorate can be filled by the governor until next election. Then send them all back to try again. Repeat until a budget is passed. How do you think that would fly? Or we could do as Jo suggested on yesterday’s thread and lock them all in their respective Houses until budgets are passed. ;–)
Interesting idea, Debra, but most states (or at least mine) would not be able to turn around an election that fast and I’m sure special interests would dominate anyway.
Our director of Christian Education is from Hawai’i. I asked her about the non attack last weekend.
She laughed. “My parents don’t have a smart phone. By the time they heard about it, it was over.” They also pointed out the obvious. “There’s nowhere to go to be safe in Hawai’i, 20 minutes wouldn’t have been enough time anyway.” So, they were perfectly content. But then, they’re believers.
Her mom did tell HER mother later (the DCE’s grandmother lives near Santa Cruz, CA), “I’d have gotten to see Jesus before you!”
Another well known writer friend talked to her husband, who was leading a Bible study at church at the time, walked outside and stared at the beautiful blue sky and contemplated her life could be ending.
She wondered if she should change out of pajamas first . . . then decided to rejoice she’d be seeing Jesus.
She, like perhaps many others, was disappointed when it didn’t end! LOL
On this day…I miss the gravitas and reverence of that great President’s administration…(oh, that was sarcasm)……..:
From the Inauguration Benediction:
“Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get in back, when brown can stick around…
(LAUGHTER)
… when yellow will be mellow…
(LAUGHTER)
… when the red man can get ahead, man; and when white will embrace what is right.”
538’s writers tend to be good with facts. This article deals with the many drug overdose cases where the lethal drug was not identified, and how Kentucky is dealing with that issue.
“True adulthood does not begin in the western world until 25 because young people are putting off settling down for longer, a psychiatrist has claimed.
Although the transition from child to adult is traditionally marked at 18, in fact, crucial neurological changes are now still happening into the mid-20s.
Beatriz Luna, professor of psychiatry and psychology at the University of Pittsburgh believes that putting off responsibilities such as marriage, a career or parenthood, encourages the brain to stay in a state of adolescence.
Consequently teenagers are no longer grown-ups at 18.
“It’s probably closer to 25,” said Prof Luna.”
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Allahpundit’s numbers bear this out. 🙂 They’re obviously still to immature.
A useful number, and one they didn’t include, is how many voted for him the first time? Granted the 18 year olds didn’t vote, but he loses no votes from them. I want to know how many did, but now won’t. I suspect a large number never voted for him the first time around, so it’s no loss if they still don’t.
If those at all typical of crossover Democrat Trump voters, and if things continue as they are, the Democratic party doesn’t stand a chance in 2020–not for the top job. :–)
I suspect that the only people who would seriously consider running in a primary against Trump are those who voted for Hillary last time around….and the ever-optimistic canine contingent. ;–)
A few thoughts:
1. There is some truth to what AJ said at 3:09. However, I would argue that the 18-24 year olds who are Republicans are the most intelligent and mature 18-24 year olds we have.
2. In fact, I would argue that the average 23 year old Republican is about as wise and mature as the average 33 year old Democrat.
3. The figures for 18-24 year olds don’t really surprise me as they simply support and confirm what I hear from my friends that age.
I am a little surprised by the figures for 25-34 year olds and 35-44 year olds.
4. Which leads me to ask why 18-44 year old Republicans view Trump so differently than age 45 and over Republicans? I think it has to do with the different sources of information relied upon by the two groups. I am not going to argue that the young Republicans are better informed than the old, though that may be the case. However, I would contend that the young get more of a variety of info and that the old are more likely to be in a pro-Trump echo chamber.
As an illustration, I think most 45 and older Republicans would see this clip and agree with Franklin Graham. I think most Republicans 44 and under would see it and conclude that Graham is hopelessly naive or an idiot.
Franklin Graham says Trump never lied to him, so he believes him about ‘Stormy Daniels’ https://t.co/vYt90S3dg4
Once again, if it weren’t for Judicial Watch, we know none of this. The media certainly isn’t interested. They’re preoccupied with nonexistent crimes for partisan reasons.
“Judicial Watch has taken the lead in pursuing government records of Hillary Clinton’s sketchy use of at least 13 devices for emails while serving as Secretary of State, as well as her controversial decision to set up a private server.
Judicial Watch’s FOIA requests have resulted in quite a few bombshells. Among them the fact that Hillary sent classified materials via email to her daughter and other such revelations that show the need to reopen the Hillary investigations.
Judicial Watch’s latest batch of FOIA-acquired emails reveals still more classified information sent via email and show that Hillary herself “had detailed knowledge” of the security risks associated with her non-State Department email system.
Judicial Watch reports:
Judicial Watch today released 78 pages of new documents from the U.S. Department of State containing emails of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton sent and received over her unsecure, non-“state.gov” email system. Three of the email exchanges include classified information. The emails also reveal that Clinton had detailed knowledge about the security issues with in her non-State Department email system.
On March 8, 2011, Hillary Clinton sent classified information regarding Bahrain to Justin Cooper, who reportedly had no security clearance, with instructions to show it to Bill Clinton. Cooper was the Bill Clinton aide, who asked State Department IT specialist Bryan Pagliano to build a server for Mrs. Clinton in early 2009 as she started her new job as Secretary of State.
On August 24, 2010, Clinton emailed Cooper additional classified information to print, including the secretary’s call sheet for Indian Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee.
In a February 13, 2010, email exchange, Hillary Clinton passed along classified information to Cooper, which originally was sent to Cheryl Mills (Clinton’s then-chief of staff) by U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Carlos Pascual. The classified information included a note from Mexican Foreign Secretary Patricia Espinosa to Hillary Clinton. In the email to Cooper, Clinton asks him to “look for Espinosa’s note and respond.”
The documents are part of the accelerated schedule of production ordered by U.S. District Court Judge James E. Boasberg, which requires the State Department to complete processing by September 28, 2018 the remaining documents of the 72,000 pages recovered by the FBI in its investigation into Hillary Clinton’s illicit email server. These new classified and other emails appear to be among those that Clinton had attempted to delete or had otherwise failed to disclose.
Hillary’s intent to destroy or hide incriminating data shows her knowledge of the lax security of her private server and her understanding of the lack of care she took with classified information. For example, the FBI reported that her housekeeper had unauthorized access to Hillary’s SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) and routinely printed out classified materials from that location.”
Congress should definitely vote to pay our military personnel as they did in 2013. After that, I have mixed feelings. With the economy strong, I would like to see some of the furloughed federal workers find jobs in the private sector.
The Douthat article is a wasted read, of interest mostly to anti-Trumpers who are trying to disguise their poverty of ideas with rhetoric. The real damage to the Republican party is in the steadfast blindness of those intent on indulging their second childhoods reliving the glory days of the Reagan/Bush era where unfettered trade and greed and sending jobs overseas was considered forward-thinking. There’s not much that can be done about that except wait for them to die off, and to persist in creating new coalitions—perhaps even across the aisle where possible.
😀 Not yet Ricky. But if there were a conservative wing of the Democrat party I would check it out. I am not a fiscal conservative for the most part—though there are some good ideas floating around in that camp which I strongly believe in.
For example, whether our governor is a conservative Republican or a liberal Democrat the TN constitution will not allow us to plan to operate on a deficit budget. This is a good thing. It has helped keep public employee unions out. These unions have done more damage to our state and federal governments than people know. It creates what some call ‘the deep state’, which has an agenda that is independent of the electorate. There are some down sides to that as well. Much of our government infrastructure lags a little behind that of CT (for example) which has a very strong public union presence. But I will take that trade-off of inefficiency for the sake of fiscal health and democratic health.
Debra, I will ask the Trumpian question that has been in my mind for some time: Where were you born? To be fair, I will give you my answer: Lubbock, Texas.
Ha! Oh that makes me nervous. Why is that ‘good’?
I’ve lived all over the place, but mostly east of the Rockies. Mom’s family is from OK City, and Dad was the middle of 11 children, born and raised in a coal mining camp in Virginia. The coal mine is still operational, though no one lives there any more. They let us in a few years ago so we could see where all the houses used to stand a few yards from the mine entrance.
I think polls are overrated, but for people who think otherwise, this is good news. It seems the positive influence of Republican tax cuts is making a dent in public perception. If this continues, it could make a difference in November.
This is a pretty good (and short) article which compares our foreign policy proclivities over time—specifically comparing Henry Clay’s responses in 1811 and Tom Cotton’s now. There was a time when we respected other nations’ right to govern as they see fit. Since the “New World Order”, we are much more arrogant and insistent that the world must see things through our economic and social prisms.
Ricky @5:11 I’m not sure what that means. Perhaps the closer they get to the grave, the more likable people perceive them to be…Then again, the closer I get to the grave, the more likable I find everyone. :–)
A bear and a fox? I like my explanation better—that or the 2 week American attention span. No one in their right mind wants GWB back. If you think so, let Jeb primary Trump and find out. ;–)
And then there are the people who voted for both the black one and the orange one:
Best part of this: the guy who said it also admits he voted for Obama, and now thinks Trump "is doing a great job." This is why I cannot take these kinds of voters seriously. https://t.co/wF7Q4IKuPM
Trump should be thankful Hillary was corrupt enough to derail Bernie Sanders, yet too clueless to be elected. Government has to benefit the whole country, not just a polling segment or two. Successful politicians of the future will have learned this.
Trump owns the shutdown;
– he revokes Obama’s DACA order because it was executive overreach.
– he said its for the legislative branch to decide.
– he calls a bipartisan mtg reveals his ignorance of immigration policy and says he will sign anything they come up with.
– they come up with a bipartisan solution
– on the advice of the last person he talked with, Trump doesnt sign it.
But aren’t those points true? Obama DID a lot of executive overreach. He couldn’t get Congress or the voters to agree with him, so he made a decree–governing by executive fiat. There’s a reason people objected to his decisions, not exclusively because they disagreed with him.
I think the current president is trying to run the country like a business–which it isn’t.
Debra @ 6:21, Hmm. I would say that government benefits the 50% who pay no income taxes yet receive benefits. It may or may not be a net benefit to those footing the bill. By the way, the new tax bill is going to reduce the percentage who actually pay income taxes below 50%. So why are the freeloaders also the ones whining that they are somehow oppressed? The supporters of the black one and the orange one have that in common.
My high school’s school colors were black and orange. When we were seniors, we had three color-combination choices to vote on for our caps and gowns. One of the choices was black and orange (for the guys and girls, respectively). One of my classmates said she did not want to look like a pumpkin at graduation. 🙂
I have two musket balls from that area of TN, Ricky. I found both on the side of the street my daughter lives on. She lives just off a road the troops took, so likely had soldiers camping where she now lives. We have taken in most, if not all, of the historical sights in that area. It is a great place for that.
Wandering Views 
These 538 round tables tend to be good. The participants know their politics, but I love the fact that they know their statistics.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-was-most-surprising-about-trumps-first-year/
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What happened yesterday:
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That should read Democrats Govt. Shutdown. They own this one, they chose illegals over the military and US citizens. Again.
Nice spin though.
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Democrats need to learn that taking hostages is not a legitimate bargaining technique.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/19/government-shutdown-bill-fails-in-senate-after-house-passes-plan.html
“Many Democrats and some Republicans announced they would vote against a short-term deal, criticizing the continued use of stopgap bills rather than funding the government through more long-term, stable mechanisms. The minority party has also shown frustration about progress on talks toward a bipartisan immigration bill, which Democrats wanted to pass this week to protect hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants from deportation.
The parties also remain divided over long-term defense and non-defense spending levels
“We’re going to continue to do all we can,” McConnell said on the Senate floor after the shutdown started. “We’ll vote again so the American people know who stands for them. And when our friends across the aisle remember who it is they actually represent, we’ll be ready to come together in a bipartisan discussion that will be necessary to clean up all of this mess.””
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Just a quick note here as well. They keep talking about hundreds of thousands of illegal dreamers. Reality is there are 3.6 million dreamers, with only 800,000 signed up for DACA. They aren’t just seeking protections for the 800,000.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/01/18/there-3-5-m-dreamers-and-most-may-face-nightmare/1042134001/
“The political debate over the fate of “DREAMers” — undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children — has overlooked just how many there are in the country today: about 3.6 million.
That number of people whose lives risk being uprooted is not widely known, in large part because so much public attention has been focused recently on 800,000 mostly young DREAMers accepted into the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.
This smaller group of DREAMers is in the spotlight because President Trump terminated DACA in September, saying it was an illegal overreach of executive authority that can only come from Congress, which is negotiating with Trump on a compromise immigration plan.
While many politicians use DREAMer and DACA interchangeably, the terms are “not a distinction without a difference,” said House Minority Whip Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Md.
DREAMers got their name from the DREAM Act, a bill that has been proposed in Congress since 2001, but never passed, that would protect that group of immigrants.
The 3.6 million estimate of undocumented immigrants brought to U.S. before their 18th birthday comes from the Migration Policy Institute, a non-partisan, non-profit think tank that studies global immigration patterns. That is roughly a third of all undocumented immigrants in the country and does not include millions of their immediate family members who are U.S. citizens.
A number so large raises the stakes for both sides in the dispute over whether to deport DREAMers, allow them to stay under prescribed conditions or provide them with a path to citizenship. “
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The dishonest blame game continues.
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/01/19/cnns-jim-acosta-can-shutdown-democrats-fault/
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Why yes, yes they are….
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/01/19/erin-burnett-senate-dem-arent-total-hypocrites-shutting-government-pet-issue/
““Hostage-taking” is the term that was used in 2013 when Ted Cruz and a few other Republicans blocked government funding to try to force repeal of ObamaCare. You can’t deny people essential government services just because you didn’t get your way on some other policy! Now here we are, five years later, and Democrats are prepared to deny those same services because they haven’t gotten their way on a DREAM amnesty with essentially no strings attached. Burnett can’t help noticing. And when she confronts Ed Markey about it, all he can do is yammer about how it’s Republicans, not Democrats, who are supposedly holding DREAMers hostage.”
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Ricky @8:01 That’s a group of anti-Trumpists sitting around a table rehashing last years anti-Trump talking points with maybe a teaspoon of intelligent analysis between them. Two minutes you won’t get back.
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Although I have no idea how things should proceed for a better outcome in this situation, I can’t help but see this as a good thing. North and South Korea need to have a better relationship, and especially in light of all the missiles being launched out of the North, this is not a bad beginning.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-2018-northkorea/north-korea-says-to-send-delegation-to-prepare-for-olympics-on-sunday-south-korea-ministry-idUSKBN1F90CS
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I have my own ideas about the government shut-down. I think if the government is shut down for more than 2 weeks, all Senators and Representatives should be recalled to their home states for special votes of confidence based on dereliction of duty. If their constituents are happy with their performance, they will be confirmed. The positions of those not confirmed by the electorate can be filled by the governor until next election. Then send them all back to try again. Repeat until a budget is passed. How do you think that would fly? Or we could do as Jo suggested on yesterday’s thread and lock them all in their respective Houses until budgets are passed. ;–)
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I may have posted this before:
Proposed Constitutional Amendment’
Congress shall not exempt itself from any legislation written for general enforcement” </b?
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Interesting idea, Debra, but most states (or at least mine) would not be able to turn around an election that fast and I’m sure special interests would dominate anyway.
My opinion, of course.
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Our director of Christian Education is from Hawai’i. I asked her about the non attack last weekend.
She laughed. “My parents don’t have a smart phone. By the time they heard about it, it was over.” They also pointed out the obvious. “There’s nowhere to go to be safe in Hawai’i, 20 minutes wouldn’t have been enough time anyway.” So, they were perfectly content. But then, they’re believers.
Her mom did tell HER mother later (the DCE’s grandmother lives near Santa Cruz, CA), “I’d have gotten to see Jesus before you!”
Another well known writer friend talked to her husband, who was leading a Bible study at church at the time, walked outside and stared at the beautiful blue sky and contemplated her life could be ending.
She wondered if she should change out of pajamas first . . . then decided to rejoice she’d be seeing Jesus.
She, like perhaps many others, was disappointed when it didn’t end! LOL
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On this day…I miss the gravitas and reverence of that great President’s administration…(oh, that was sarcasm)……..:
From the Inauguration Benediction:
“Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get in back, when brown can stick around…
(LAUGHTER)
… when yellow will be mellow…
(LAUGHTER)
… when the red man can get ahead, man; and when white will embrace what is right.”
Barack Obama’s inauguration in 2009.
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538’s writers tend to be good with facts. This article deals with the many drug overdose cases where the lethal drug was not identified, and how Kentucky is dealing with that issue.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/there-is-more-than-one-opioid-crisis/
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I mentioned this anecdotally. Here is the proof, and it is striking.
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Then it’s a good thing that we don’t let the children decide. 🙂
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11413884/True-adulthood-doesnt-begin-until-age-25.html
“True adulthood does not begin in the western world until 25 because young people are putting off settling down for longer, a psychiatrist has claimed.
Although the transition from child to adult is traditionally marked at 18, in fact, crucial neurological changes are now still happening into the mid-20s.
Beatriz Luna, professor of psychiatry and psychology at the University of Pittsburgh believes that putting off responsibilities such as marriage, a career or parenthood, encourages the brain to stay in a state of adolescence.
Consequently teenagers are no longer grown-ups at 18.
“It’s probably closer to 25,” said Prof Luna.”
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Allahpundit’s numbers bear this out. 🙂 They’re obviously still to immature.
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How about the 35-44 year olds?
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I thought Arnold was going to primary Trump. I’d say he has about as good a chance as anyone else. Let the primaries begin. ;–)
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A useful number, and one they didn’t include, is how many voted for him the first time? Granted the 18 year olds didn’t vote, but he loses no votes from them. I want to know how many did, but now won’t. I suspect a large number never voted for him the first time around, so it’s no loss if they still don’t.
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Now what about the adults? Here’s what the cross-over voting Democrats have to say.
Note the look of shock and horror on the CNN reporters face. 🙂
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If those at all typical of crossover Democrat Trump voters, and if things continue as they are, the Democratic party doesn’t stand a chance in 2020–not for the top job. :–)
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I suspect that the only people who would seriously consider running in a primary against Trump are those who voted for Hillary last time around….and the ever-optimistic canine contingent. ;–)
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A few thoughts:
1. There is some truth to what AJ said at 3:09. However, I would argue that the 18-24 year olds who are Republicans are the most intelligent and mature 18-24 year olds we have.
2. In fact, I would argue that the average 23 year old Republican is about as wise and mature as the average 33 year old Democrat.
3. The figures for 18-24 year olds don’t really surprise me as they simply support and confirm what I hear from my friends that age.
I am a little surprised by the figures for 25-34 year olds and 35-44 year olds.
4. Which leads me to ask why 18-44 year old Republicans view Trump so differently than age 45 and over Republicans? I think it has to do with the different sources of information relied upon by the two groups. I am not going to argue that the young Republicans are better informed than the old, though that may be the case. However, I would contend that the young get more of a variety of info and that the old are more likely to be in a pro-Trump echo chamber.
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As an illustration, I think most 45 and older Republicans would see this clip and agree with Franklin Graham. I think most Republicans 44 and under would see it and conclude that Graham is hopelessly naive or an idiot.
I guess I am just young at heart.
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Once again, if it weren’t for Judicial Watch, we know none of this. The media certainly isn’t interested. They’re preoccupied with nonexistent crimes for partisan reasons.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/01/judicial-watch-hillary-had-detailed-knowledge-of-security-risks-more-classified-emails-discovered/
“Judicial Watch has taken the lead in pursuing government records of Hillary Clinton’s sketchy use of at least 13 devices for emails while serving as Secretary of State, as well as her controversial decision to set up a private server.
Judicial Watch’s FOIA requests have resulted in quite a few bombshells. Among them the fact that Hillary sent classified materials via email to her daughter and other such revelations that show the need to reopen the Hillary investigations.
Judicial Watch’s latest batch of FOIA-acquired emails reveals still more classified information sent via email and show that Hillary herself “had detailed knowledge” of the security risks associated with her non-State Department email system.
Judicial Watch reports:
Judicial Watch today released 78 pages of new documents from the U.S. Department of State containing emails of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton sent and received over her unsecure, non-“state.gov” email system. Three of the email exchanges include classified information. The emails also reveal that Clinton had detailed knowledge about the security issues with in her non-State Department email system.
On March 8, 2011, Hillary Clinton sent classified information regarding Bahrain to Justin Cooper, who reportedly had no security clearance, with instructions to show it to Bill Clinton. Cooper was the Bill Clinton aide, who asked State Department IT specialist Bryan Pagliano to build a server for Mrs. Clinton in early 2009 as she started her new job as Secretary of State.
On August 24, 2010, Clinton emailed Cooper additional classified information to print, including the secretary’s call sheet for Indian Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee.
In a February 13, 2010, email exchange, Hillary Clinton passed along classified information to Cooper, which originally was sent to Cheryl Mills (Clinton’s then-chief of staff) by U.S. Ambassador to Mexico Carlos Pascual. The classified information included a note from Mexican Foreign Secretary Patricia Espinosa to Hillary Clinton. In the email to Cooper, Clinton asks him to “look for Espinosa’s note and respond.”
The documents are part of the accelerated schedule of production ordered by U.S. District Court Judge James E. Boasberg, which requires the State Department to complete processing by September 28, 2018 the remaining documents of the 72,000 pages recovered by the FBI in its investigation into Hillary Clinton’s illicit email server. These new classified and other emails appear to be among those that Clinton had attempted to delete or had otherwise failed to disclose.
Hillary’s intent to destroy or hide incriminating data shows her knowledge of the lax security of her private server and her understanding of the lack of care she took with classified information. For example, the FBI reported that her housekeeper had unauthorized access to Hillary’s SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) and routinely printed out classified materials from that location.”
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Well at least one Representative is doing her job. Now if mine will follow suit.
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Here is what is about to happen.
Congress should definitely vote to pay our military personnel as they did in 2013. After that, I have mixed feelings. With the economy strong, I would like to see some of the furloughed federal workers find jobs in the private sector.
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Sorry Debra,
SPAM filter grabbed it.
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Douthat wrote a column in response to Frum’s new book, and it is both correct and hilarious.
The only thing he did not address is the damage being done to the Republican Party and the conservative movement.
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The Douthat article is a wasted read, of interest mostly to anti-Trumpers who are trying to disguise their poverty of ideas with rhetoric. The real damage to the Republican party is in the steadfast blindness of those intent on indulging their second childhoods reliving the glory days of the Reagan/Bush era where unfettered trade and greed and sending jobs overseas was considered forward-thinking. There’s not much that can be done about that except wait for them to die off, and to persist in creating new coalitions—perhaps even across the aisle where possible.
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Debra @ 8:26 I always said you were a pro-life Democrat.
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😀 Not yet Ricky. But if there were a conservative wing of the Democrat party I would check it out. I am not a fiscal conservative for the most part—though there are some good ideas floating around in that camp which I strongly believe in.
For example, whether our governor is a conservative Republican or a liberal Democrat the TN constitution will not allow us to plan to operate on a deficit budget. This is a good thing. It has helped keep public employee unions out. These unions have done more damage to our state and federal governments than people know. It creates what some call ‘the deep state’, which has an agenda that is independent of the electorate. There are some down sides to that as well. Much of our government infrastructure lags a little behind that of CT (for example) which has a very strong public union presence. But I will take that trade-off of inefficiency for the sake of fiscal health and democratic health.
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Debra, I will ask the Trumpian question that has been in my mind for some time: Where were you born? To be fair, I will give you my answer: Lubbock, Texas.
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Sewart Airforce Base in Symrna, TN.
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Good.
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Between Murfreesboro, Franklin and Nashville. A very historic place. Many of my ancestors fought the Ys in many places close to your place of birth.
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Ha! Oh that makes me nervous. Why is that ‘good’?
I’ve lived all over the place, but mostly east of the Rockies. Mom’s family is from OK City, and Dad was the middle of 11 children, born and raised in a coal mining camp in Virginia. The coal mine is still operational, though no one lives there any more. They let us in a few years ago so we could see where all the houses used to stand a few yards from the mine entrance.
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Oh, well that makes sense. :–)
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We are steeped in history, no doubt.
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I was born in Los Angeles
Just thought I’d chime in
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Well, DJ, at least you are from the Southern part of California.
https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/clyde-wilson-library/what-is-a-southerner/
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I think polls are overrated, but for people who think otherwise, this is good news. It seems the positive influence of Republican tax cuts is making a dent in public perception. If this continues, it could make a difference in November.
https://www.axios.com/after-tax-cut-congressional-gop-bouncing-back-1516546707-5e6390d5-9467-4c05-859c-47397258d412.html
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Speaking of polls, what two things (or people) could have caused this?
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This is a pretty good (and short) article which compares our foreign policy proclivities over time—specifically comparing Henry Clay’s responses in 1811 and Tom Cotton’s now. There was a time when we respected other nations’ right to govern as they see fit. Since the “New World Order”, we are much more arrogant and insistent that the world must see things through our economic and social prisms.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/henry-clays-rebuke-to-tom-cotton/
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Ricky @5:11 I’m not sure what that means. Perhaps the closer they get to the grave, the more likable people perceive them to be…Then again, the closer I get to the grave, the more likable I find everyone. :–)
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An interesting article on Cotton and Clay.
I’ll give you a hint about the answers to the question @ 5:11: One is black and the other is orange.
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A bear and a fox? I like my explanation better—that or the 2 week American attention span. No one in their right mind wants GWB back. If you think so, let Jeb primary Trump and find out. ;–)
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Jeb isn’t GWB. I never really liked Little Bush, but Trump should be thankful he isn’t eligible to run again.
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And then there are the people who voted for both the black one and the orange one:
Give me my single question literacy test!
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Trump should be thankful Hillary was corrupt enough to derail Bernie Sanders, yet too clueless to be elected. Government has to benefit the whole country, not just a polling segment or two. Successful politicians of the future will have learned this.
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Trump owns the shutdown;
– he revokes Obama’s DACA order because it was executive overreach.
– he said its for the legislative branch to decide.
– he calls a bipartisan mtg reveals his ignorance of immigration policy and says he will sign anything they come up with.
– they come up with a bipartisan solution
– on the advice of the last person he talked with, Trump doesnt sign it.
Anyway here’s an interesting article
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/trump-has-never-been-the-voice-of-those-who-voted-forhim/article37669918/?click=sf_globefb
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But aren’t those points true? Obama DID a lot of executive overreach. He couldn’t get Congress or the voters to agree with him, so he made a decree–governing by executive fiat. There’s a reason people objected to his decisions, not exclusively because they disagreed with him.
I think the current president is trying to run the country like a business–which it isn’t.
I, too, was born in Los Angeles.
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Debra @ 6:21, Hmm. I would say that government benefits the 50% who pay no income taxes yet receive benefits. It may or may not be a net benefit to those footing the bill. By the way, the new tax bill is going to reduce the percentage who actually pay income taxes below 50%. So why are the freeloaders also the ones whining that they are somehow oppressed? The supporters of the black one and the orange one have that in common.
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Black and orange? What is this – Halloween?
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Michelle, Businesses run like Trump is running the US generally go bankrupt, sometimes more than once.
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It is always funny when others seem to be Tweeting responses to our thread:
https://twitter.com/thebenwilhelm/status/955251881642745856
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My high school’s school colors were black and orange. When we were seniors, we had three color-combination choices to vote on for our caps and gowns. One of the choices was black and orange (for the guys and girls, respectively). One of my classmates said she did not want to look like a pumpkin at graduation. 🙂
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(BTW, dark green/light green won. We were so green back then. ) 🙂
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I have two musket balls from that area of TN, Ricky. I found both on the side of the street my daughter lives on. She lives just off a road the troops took, so likely had soldiers camping where she now lives. We have taken in most, if not all, of the historical sights in that area. It is a great place for that.
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