“The University of Texas at Austin police department issued a disorderly conduct citation to an outdoor preacher on Tuesday after students complained that his message had offended them. The preacher, who was standing just off campus, recorded his interaction with several university police officers, who explained that it was illegal for him to offend the students.
The preacher was an intern with Campus Ministry USA, an evangelical ministry organization that travels around college campuses loudly preaching their message. The ministry is headed by one Brother Jed Smock, who told The Daily Caller that his intern Joshua “was speaking out against STDs, warning against anal sex.”
The university told TheDC that the officer was responding to students who claimed to be “verbally harassed” by the intern-preacher. The video shows the officer explaining that the intern’s use of “anal” and “penis” offended students, before issuing a citation for disorderly conduct. “After a lawyer representing Joshua called the chief of police, the chief called Joshua and apologized. The citation was withdrawn.” Brother Jed told TheDC.
A university spokesperson confirmed that the citation was later “voided,” adding that the officer who originally responded to the complaint is currently in the training process.
Ari Cohn, a lawyer with the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) told TheDC that he found the video “deeply disturbing.” “Speech that simply offends others is protected by the First Amendment, and contrary to the officer’s statements, it is not the job of police to ‘do something’ about it. Issuing a disorderly conduct citation based on the content of speech violates decades of clear Supreme Court precedent,” Cohn said.”
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If you watched what was supposed to be a debate last night, you probably noticed Hillary going all fan-boy on Obama and his policies in an obvious attempt to sway black voters. It was pretty lame if you ask me, and not very believable. Which means, it probably worked….
I find it amusing that she thinks this will work, especially after the horrible results her husband’s policies bestowed on the black community. Policies she supported.
“Hillary Clinton loves black people. And black people love Hillary—or so it seems. Black politicians have lined up in droves to endorse her, eager to prove their loyalty to the Clintons in the hopes that their faithfulness will be remembered and rewarded. Black pastors are opening their church doors, and the Clintons are making themselves comfortably at home once again, engaging effortlessly in all the usual rituals associated with “courting the black vote,” a pursuit that typically begins and ends with Democratic politicians making black people feel liked and taken seriously. Doing something concrete to improve the conditions under which most black people live is generally not required.
Hillary is looking to gain momentum on the campaign trail as the primaries move out of Iowa and New Hampshire and into states like South Carolina, where large pockets of black voters can be found. According to some polls, she leads Bernie Sanders by as much as 60 percent among African Americans. It seems that we—black people—are her winning card, one that Hillary is eager to play.”
“What have the Clintons done to earn such devotion? Did they take extreme political risks to defend the rights of African Americans? Did they courageously stand up to right-wing demagoguery about black communities? Did they help usher in a new era of hope and prosperity for neighborhoods devastated by deindustrialization, globalization, and the disappearance of work? No. Quite the opposite.”
“When Bill Clinton ran for president in 1992, urban black communities across America were suffering from economic collapse. Hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs had vanished as factories moved overseas in search of cheaper labor, a new plantation. Globalization and deindustrialization affected workers of all colors but hit African Americans particularly hard. Unemployment rates among young black men had quadrupled as the rate of industrial employment plummeted. Crime rates spiked in inner-city communities that had been dependent on factory jobs, while hopelessness, despair, and crack addiction swept neighborhoods that had once been solidly working-class. Millions of black folks—many of whom had fled Jim Crow segregation in the South with the hope of obtaining decent work in Northern factories—were suddenly trapped in racially segregated, jobless ghettos.
On the campaign trail, Bill Clinton made the economy his top priority and argued persuasively that conservatives were using race to divide the nation and divert attention from the failed economy. In practice, however, he capitulated entirely to the right-wing backlash against the civil-rights movement and embraced former president Ronald Reagan’s agenda on race, crime, welfare, and taxes—ultimately doing more harm to black communities than Reagan ever did.”
“When Bill Clinton ran for president in 1992, urban black communities across America were suffering from economic collapse. Hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs had vanished as factories moved overseas in search of cheaper labor, a new plantation. Globalization and deindustrialization affected workers of all colors but hit African Americans particularly hard. Unemployment rates among young black men had quadrupled as the rate of industrial employment plummeted. Crime rates spiked in inner-city communities that had been dependent on factory jobs, while hopelessness, despair, and crack addiction swept neighborhoods that had once been solidly working-class. Millions of black folks—many of whom had fled Jim Crow segregation in the South with the hope of obtaining decent work in Northern factories—were suddenly trapped in racially segregated, jobless ghettos.
On the campaign trail, Bill Clinton made the economy his top priority and argued persuasively that conservatives were using race to divide the nation and divert attention from the failed economy. In practice, however, he capitulated entirely to the right-wing backlash against the civil-rights movement and embraced former president Ronald Reagan’s agenda on race, crime, welfare, and taxes—ultimately doing more harm to black communities than Reagan ever did.”
The DNC Machine is actively working to make sure Hillary wins all the primaries they can give her, They have even dragged elderly civil rights leaders out to say they never saw Bernie Sanders at even Civil Rights events. You know what? I saw Bill Clinton when he was governor of Arkansas and it didn’t make an impression on me. The only reason I know I did is because when he ran for president I remembered that the governor of Arkansas was speaking at a different event at the same hotel where I was at a convention. Forty or fifty years later you are supposed to remember everyone who was at an event?
I am copying part of Aj’s first to my word processor.
I am teaching Matthew 11:20-30 Sunday. “Woe to you …..for if the miracles that were done in you had been done in Tyre snd Sydon they would have repented….”
Our nation has been uniquely blessed beyond measure.
Is this what we’re doing with it?
Chas – It depends. If you are a liberal offended by a conservative, then yes, it counts. If you are a conservative offended by a liberal, then no, it doesn’t, & your taking offense is an offense in itself.
We’re in the midst of a rebellion. The bottom and middle are pushing against the top. It’s a throwing off of old claims and it’s been going on for a while, but we’re seeing it more sharply after New Hampshire. This is not politics as usual, which by its nature is full of surprise. There’s something deep, suggestive, even epochal about what’s happening now.
I have thought for some time that there’s a kind of soft French Revolution going on in America, with the angry and blocked beginning to push hard against an oblivious elite. …
…. Anyway, we are in some kind of moment. Congratulations to the establishments of both parties for getting us here. They are the authors of the rebellion; they are a prime thing being rebelled against.
Connected to that, something I’ve noticed. In Washington there used to be a widespread cliché: “God protects drunks, children and the United States of America.” I’m in Washington a lot, and I’ve noticed no one says that anymore. They stopped 10 or 15 years ago. I wonder what that means.
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Chas, I am currently reading Ezekiel. I find many ways the actions of the church today mimic those of Israel and Judah when they were leaving the Lord. The church is not a nation, so there are differences, but there are many similarities.
In reading Ezekiel 10, where those shepherds were leading people astray by declaring peace where there wasn’t any, I think of those who claim to be Christians and yet accept things from other religions (and people) that clearly are not biblical. The desire to have peace with others can so easily trump (no pun intended) truth.
Kathaleena – I see that in individual Christians, too. For instance, YF, as I’ve previously mentioned, strongly supports abortion & homosexuality (as well as transgenderism, etc.), & same-sex marriage. She also has written about how harmless “BDSM” is, if it is practiced with “safe words” & all that, & once said something against “kink-shaming”.
She, & others like her, fall all over themselves accepting & promoting the perverse ways of the world, but want to consider themselves Christians. May God have mercy on their souls by showing them their error now, while it can be repented of.
And then you have the preachers who preach to their many followers the mantra of “Your best life now” and the “health & wealth ‘gospel'” — which isn’t the gospel at all, of course.
I sometimes lose sight of these broader aspects of the so-called church which are leading so many astray. I exist and move within a fairly small bubble in a church and denomination that are solidly biblical.
FB and social media has been an eye-opener in that sense, and a reminder of how many are not under good teaching and doctrine. 😦
Just keep reminding yourself of this word: remnant.
As I grieve over the false teachers in the church these days, I wonder what on earth God is thinking. God would have spared Sodom had there been ten men who worshipped him. Every believer who actually knows the God of Creation and worships him, helps keep disaster at bay.
But even God’s precious Jerusalem ultimately abandoned him–and the remnant left for Babylon. The very same thing could happen here, so, let’s try to keep at least ten prayers out here!
I taught on Ezekiel 22 this week–intercessors standing in the gap and God’s comment he couldn’t find one.
As I prayed about how to teach this class, the Lord gave me a very interesting idea. I looked up the names of our government heads, President Obama, and so forth, down to our mayor, sheriff and the four leaders of our church.
I printed their jobs and names on slips of paper, cut them, folded them and put them into a jar.
After we finished our lesson on Ezekiel 22, I asked for suggestions about how to pray for those in leadership, particularly if you didn’t like or trust them. What can we pray for them individually?
I wrote the answers on the white board (with marker and without a need for an eraser): health, integrity, honesty, salvation, etc. Then then had to choose two slips of paper from the jar and we were going to pray for them.
My ladies don’t much like to pray out loud, and I explained no pressure, and if they couldn’t think of anything else, just pray peace on the person’s life.
It was very sweet and they prayed beautifully, some using the ideas from the board. One dear woman, very politically inclined, started like this: “Lord, this is hard for me because I don’t like nor respect this individual, but your word says to pray.” She did a wonderful job.
When we finished, they all were so very touched by the experience. God is good. Our nation needs us. We’re called to stand in the gap and be intercessors.
Okay, maybe conservatives are right to freak out about illiberal lefty militancy on college campuses.
Today’s students are indeed both more left wing and more openly hostile to free speech than earlier generations of collegians.
Don’t believe me? There are hard data to prove it. …
… Heck, some students are trying to muzzle liberal and moderate viewpoints. I’m hardly an arch-conservative, and whenever I write things that college students disagree with, I get a lot of email demanding retraction, recantation, apology, prostration. Some younger readers — not all that much younger than I, mind you — have accused my writing of “taking away” both their voices and their agency, as if free speech were zero-sum. …
… One parting observation: Remember that these survey questions were asked of newly matriculated college freshmen. That is, students are setting foot on campus already more liberal, more protest-happy and more amenable to speech restrictions than their predecessors.
Which suggests that colleges themselves are not wholly responsible for rising liberal and illiberal tendencies on campus — even if they do sometimes aid and abet both trends.
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Every Sunday in the Anglican communion we pray for our President, Barack, our Governor, Robert, and on down do our deacon, Walt. I only know and like one of those men (well some in between as well) but it is a reminder that God puts them in place and as much as I dislike the president we have he deserves our prayers.
Heard most of this on the radio tonight coming home, but it’s on Fox at 8 p.m. (ET) Saturday and Sunday — sounded like a good look at the Trump/Sanders phenomena and what the heck is going on… 🙂
Wandering Views 
I guess they never heard of the 1st Amendment……
http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/10/university-of-texas-police-give-preacher-citation-for-offending-students/
“The University of Texas at Austin police department issued a disorderly conduct citation to an outdoor preacher on Tuesday after students complained that his message had offended them. The preacher, who was standing just off campus, recorded his interaction with several university police officers, who explained that it was illegal for him to offend the students.
The preacher was an intern with Campus Ministry USA, an evangelical ministry organization that travels around college campuses loudly preaching their message. The ministry is headed by one Brother Jed Smock, who told The Daily Caller that his intern Joshua “was speaking out against STDs, warning against anal sex.”
The university told TheDC that the officer was responding to students who claimed to be “verbally harassed” by the intern-preacher. The video shows the officer explaining that the intern’s use of “anal” and “penis” offended students, before issuing a citation for disorderly conduct. “After a lawyer representing Joshua called the chief of police, the chief called Joshua and apologized. The citation was withdrawn.” Brother Jed told TheDC.
A university spokesperson confirmed that the citation was later “voided,” adding that the officer who originally responded to the complaint is currently in the training process.
Ari Cohn, a lawyer with the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) told TheDC that he found the video “deeply disturbing.” “Speech that simply offends others is protected by the First Amendment, and contrary to the officer’s statements, it is not the job of police to ‘do something’ about it. Issuing a disorderly conduct citation based on the content of speech violates decades of clear Supreme Court precedent,” Cohn said.”
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Training program for what? The Gestapo?
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If you watched what was supposed to be a debate last night, you probably noticed Hillary going all fan-boy on Obama and his policies in an obvious attempt to sway black voters. It was pretty lame if you ask me, and not very believable. Which means, it probably worked….
I find it amusing that she thinks this will work, especially after the horrible results her husband’s policies bestowed on the black community. Policies she supported.
http://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clinton-does-not-deserve-black-peoples-votes/
“Hillary Clinton loves black people. And black people love Hillary—or so it seems. Black politicians have lined up in droves to endorse her, eager to prove their loyalty to the Clintons in the hopes that their faithfulness will be remembered and rewarded. Black pastors are opening their church doors, and the Clintons are making themselves comfortably at home once again, engaging effortlessly in all the usual rituals associated with “courting the black vote,” a pursuit that typically begins and ends with Democratic politicians making black people feel liked and taken seriously. Doing something concrete to improve the conditions under which most black people live is generally not required.
Hillary is looking to gain momentum on the campaign trail as the primaries move out of Iowa and New Hampshire and into states like South Carolina, where large pockets of black voters can be found. According to some polls, she leads Bernie Sanders by as much as 60 percent among African Americans. It seems that we—black people—are her winning card, one that Hillary is eager to play.”
“What have the Clintons done to earn such devotion? Did they take extreme political risks to defend the rights of African Americans? Did they courageously stand up to right-wing demagoguery about black communities? Did they help usher in a new era of hope and prosperity for neighborhoods devastated by deindustrialization, globalization, and the disappearance of work? No. Quite the opposite.”
“When Bill Clinton ran for president in 1992, urban black communities across America were suffering from economic collapse. Hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs had vanished as factories moved overseas in search of cheaper labor, a new plantation. Globalization and deindustrialization affected workers of all colors but hit African Americans particularly hard. Unemployment rates among young black men had quadrupled as the rate of industrial employment plummeted. Crime rates spiked in inner-city communities that had been dependent on factory jobs, while hopelessness, despair, and crack addiction swept neighborhoods that had once been solidly working-class. Millions of black folks—many of whom had fled Jim Crow segregation in the South with the hope of obtaining decent work in Northern factories—were suddenly trapped in racially segregated, jobless ghettos.
On the campaign trail, Bill Clinton made the economy his top priority and argued persuasively that conservatives were using race to divide the nation and divert attention from the failed economy. In practice, however, he capitulated entirely to the right-wing backlash against the civil-rights movement and embraced former president Ronald Reagan’s agenda on race, crime, welfare, and taxes—ultimately doing more harm to black communities than Reagan ever did.”
“When Bill Clinton ran for president in 1992, urban black communities across America were suffering from economic collapse. Hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs had vanished as factories moved overseas in search of cheaper labor, a new plantation. Globalization and deindustrialization affected workers of all colors but hit African Americans particularly hard. Unemployment rates among young black men had quadrupled as the rate of industrial employment plummeted. Crime rates spiked in inner-city communities that had been dependent on factory jobs, while hopelessness, despair, and crack addiction swept neighborhoods that had once been solidly working-class. Millions of black folks—many of whom had fled Jim Crow segregation in the South with the hope of obtaining decent work in Northern factories—were suddenly trapped in racially segregated, jobless ghettos.
On the campaign trail, Bill Clinton made the economy his top priority and argued persuasively that conservatives were using race to divide the nation and divert attention from the failed economy. In practice, however, he capitulated entirely to the right-wing backlash against the civil-rights movement and embraced former president Ronald Reagan’s agenda on race, crime, welfare, and taxes—ultimately doing more harm to black communities than Reagan ever did.”
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The DNC Machine is actively working to make sure Hillary wins all the primaries they can give her, They have even dragged elderly civil rights leaders out to say they never saw Bernie Sanders at even Civil Rights events. You know what? I saw Bill Clinton when he was governor of Arkansas and it didn’t make an impression on me. The only reason I know I did is because when he ran for president I remembered that the governor of Arkansas was speaking at a different event at the same hotel where I was at a convention. Forty or fifty years later you are supposed to remember everyone who was at an event?
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I am copying part of Aj’s first to my word processor.
I am teaching Matthew 11:20-30 Sunday. “Woe to you …..for if the miracles that were done in you had been done in Tyre snd Sydon they would have repented….”
Our nation has been uniquely blessed beyond measure.
Is this what we’re doing with it?
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Being offended trumps the first amendment, hands down.
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If I’m offended that you’re offended, does that count?
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Chas – It depends. If you are a liberal offended by a conservative, then yes, it counts. If you are a conservative offended by a liberal, then no, it doesn’t, & your taking offense is an offense in itself.
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I should have worded that a bit differently. It should have been “If you are a liberal offended by a conservative being offended. . .”, & so on.
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Interesting Noonan column in the WSJ (you may have to separately google it if the paywall is in place):
http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-sanders-and-the-american-rebellion-1455236273
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What is happening in American politics?
We’re in the midst of a rebellion. The bottom and middle are pushing against the top. It’s a throwing off of old claims and it’s been going on for a while, but we’re seeing it more sharply after New Hampshire. This is not politics as usual, which by its nature is full of surprise. There’s something deep, suggestive, even epochal about what’s happening now.
I have thought for some time that there’s a kind of soft French Revolution going on in America, with the angry and blocked beginning to push hard against an oblivious elite. …
…. Anyway, we are in some kind of moment. Congratulations to the establishments of both parties for getting us here. They are the authors of the rebellion; they are a prime thing being rebelled against.
Connected to that, something I’ve noticed. In Washington there used to be a widespread cliché: “God protects drunks, children and the United States of America.” I’m in Washington a lot, and I’ve noticed no one says that anymore. They stopped 10 or 15 years ago. I wonder what that means.
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Chas, I am currently reading Ezekiel. I find many ways the actions of the church today mimic those of Israel and Judah when they were leaving the Lord. The church is not a nation, so there are differences, but there are many similarities.
In reading Ezekiel 10, where those shepherds were leading people astray by declaring peace where there wasn’t any, I think of those who claim to be Christians and yet accept things from other religions (and people) that clearly are not biblical. The desire to have peace with others can so easily trump (no pun intended) truth.
So much in God’s word!
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Donna – I, too, have been thinking of the French Revolution as I read all the bile directed against the “1%” & the “billionaire class”.
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Kathaleena – I see that in individual Christians, too. For instance, YF, as I’ve previously mentioned, strongly supports abortion & homosexuality (as well as transgenderism, etc.), & same-sex marriage. She also has written about how harmless “BDSM” is, if it is practiced with “safe words” & all that, & once said something against “kink-shaming”.
She, & others like her, fall all over themselves accepting & promoting the perverse ways of the world, but want to consider themselves Christians. May God have mercy on their souls by showing them their error now, while it can be repented of.
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And then you have the preachers who preach to their many followers the mantra of “Your best life now” and the “health & wealth ‘gospel'” — which isn’t the gospel at all, of course.
I sometimes lose sight of these broader aspects of the so-called church which are leading so many astray. I exist and move within a fairly small bubble in a church and denomination that are solidly biblical.
FB and social media has been an eye-opener in that sense, and a reminder of how many are not under good teaching and doctrine. 😦
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Just keep reminding yourself of this word: remnant.
As I grieve over the false teachers in the church these days, I wonder what on earth God is thinking. God would have spared Sodom had there been ten men who worshipped him. Every believer who actually knows the God of Creation and worships him, helps keep disaster at bay.
But even God’s precious Jerusalem ultimately abandoned him–and the remnant left for Babylon. The very same thing could happen here, so, let’s try to keep at least ten prayers out here!
I taught on Ezekiel 22 this week–intercessors standing in the gap and God’s comment he couldn’t find one.
As I prayed about how to teach this class, the Lord gave me a very interesting idea. I looked up the names of our government heads, President Obama, and so forth, down to our mayor, sheriff and the four leaders of our church.
I printed their jobs and names on slips of paper, cut them, folded them and put them into a jar.
After we finished our lesson on Ezekiel 22, I asked for suggestions about how to pray for those in leadership, particularly if you didn’t like or trust them. What can we pray for them individually?
I wrote the answers on the white board (with marker and without a need for an eraser): health, integrity, honesty, salvation, etc. Then then had to choose two slips of paper from the jar and we were going to pray for them.
My ladies don’t much like to pray out loud, and I explained no pressure, and if they couldn’t think of anything else, just pray peace on the person’s life.
It was very sweet and they prayed beautifully, some using the ideas from the board. One dear woman, very politically inclined, started like this: “Lord, this is hard for me because I don’t like nor respect this individual, but your word says to pray.” She did a wonderful job.
When we finished, they all were so very touched by the experience. God is good. Our nation needs us. We’re called to stand in the gap and be intercessors.
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More on “offensive” speech from a column in the Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/liberal-but-not-tolerant-on-the-nations-college-campuses/2016/02/11/0f79e8e8-d101-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html
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Okay, maybe conservatives are right to freak out about illiberal lefty militancy on college campuses.
Today’s students are indeed both more left wing and more openly hostile to free speech than earlier generations of collegians.
Don’t believe me? There are hard data to prove it. …
… Heck, some students are trying to muzzle liberal and moderate viewpoints. I’m hardly an arch-conservative, and whenever I write things that college students disagree with, I get a lot of email demanding retraction, recantation, apology, prostration. Some younger readers — not all that much younger than I, mind you — have accused my writing of “taking away” both their voices and their agency, as if free speech were zero-sum. …
… One parting observation: Remember that these survey questions were asked of newly matriculated college freshmen. That is, students are setting foot on campus already more liberal, more protest-happy and more amenable to speech restrictions than their predecessors.
Which suggests that colleges themselves are not wholly responsible for rising liberal and illiberal tendencies on campus — even if they do sometimes aid and abet both trends.
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Every Sunday in the Anglican communion we pray for our President, Barack, our Governor, Robert, and on down do our deacon, Walt. I only know and like one of those men (well some in between as well) but it is a reminder that God puts them in place and as much as I dislike the president we have he deserves our prayers.
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Chas for President! He is not a socialist. He is not a megalomaniac.
However, I think the ads should read: He is not a commie. He is not a nut.
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thanx for the plug Ricky, but lots of people would disagree with the “not a nut’ business.
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I’ve been called a “nutcake” more times than I can remember.
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Ricky, isn’t that kind of faint praise?
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It puts him way ahead of the leading candidates.
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Heard most of this on the radio tonight coming home, but it’s on Fox at 8 p.m. (ET) Saturday and Sunday — sounded like a good look at the Trump/Sanders phenomena and what the heck is going on… 🙂
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/12/fox-news-reporting-voter-revolt.html
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