I have some right wing friends who are all offended about Kelly’s question to Walker on abortion. I tried to tell them that the question was going to come up, isn’t it better that he gets a chance to answer in front of 24 million people rather than those same people getting only the left’s interpretation of his answer. She did her job. This was not Msnbc where democrats get asked their favorite color and told how wonderful they are. The right is better than that. We welcome real dialogue. It’s the left who try to silence people
What was the abortion question put to Walker? I remember the one she asked Rubio (about his supporting exceptions for rape & the mother’s health, which sounded like he dodged/faked his way through pretty much).
Oh right, I think that happened on my commute home so I just heard it on the car radio — can’t remember his response though.
They’re all fair questions. Kelly last night was saying that Rubio should/could have simply explained that while he is opposed to abortion in all cases, the political reality makes the exceptions in extreme cases reasonable and/or necessary to allow.
Instead, he tried to deny that he ever supported any exceptions.
I’ll be interested to see what the polling date shows this weekend now that everyone’s had a chance to digest it all a bit.
Fiorina will get a bump, that’s for sure — I missed the earlier debate but heard some of her answers replayed yesterday on a program. She’s good.
Trump apparently has been “dis-invited” to a RedState.com event being held today after his more recent comments about Kelly.
He sounds about 12 years old in this statement that was released (calling the organizer of the RedState event “a total loser”). Sigh. Hoping things can move on to a more adult discussion soon (but not holding my breath).
In better days, one of Kelly’s male relatives would have challenged Trump to a duel. If Jim Webb were debating Trump, I have hope that he would beat the tar out of Trump if Trump was rude to a Southern lady.
Like I said the other night, there’s no need to pile on Trump, he’ll destroy his candidacy all by his lonesome. But it has been kinda fun to watch, and he did get us discussing some things that needed to be talked about. Even court jesters have their uses. 🙂
And I better see Carly’s face at the next top tier debate. She earned it.
Former president Bill Clinton had a private telephone conversation in late spring with Donald Trump at the same time that the billionaire investor and reality-television star was nearing a decision to run for the White House, according to associates of both men.
Four Trump allies and one Clinton associate familiar with the exchange said that Clinton encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape.
Clinton’s personal office in New York confirmed that the call occurred in late May, but an aide to Clinton said the 2016 race was never specifically discussed and that it was only a casual chat.
The talk with Clinton — the spouse of the Democratic presidential front-runner and one of his party’s preeminent political strategists — came just weeks before Trump jumped into the GOP race and surged to the front of the crowded Republican field. …
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“The FBI is now referring some potential terror suspects to counseling in a new strategy to defeat homegrown Islamic State supporters.
Rather than lock up everyone in the U.S. suspected of potential terrorist activity, the FBI will refer up to 10 percent of the thousands of people under investigation to counseling, reported The Wall Street Journal.
Proponents of the plan told TheWSJ it will ease the FBI’s investigative burden, and provide a possible “off ramp” from radicalization for some of the thousands of people in the U.S. interested in ISIS, especially minors.
“Nobody wants to see a 15-year-old kid go to jail if they don’t have to,” an official working on the new plan told TheWSJ, adding that the FBI will continue monitoring potential suspects referred to counseling and stand ready to arrest them.”
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While Christian refugees fleeing ISIS in Iraq get deported. Apparently there is a group that came in illegally that Obama wants deported. They, more than most from S.A., deserve asylum because they’re actually being persecuted and threatened with death, rape, and kidnapping. Yet what does this admin do?
“Just a few miles from the U.S.-Mexican border, the descendants of one of the oldest Christian communities in the world wait to be delivered from purgatory — and live in fear of being returned to hell.
Just a few miles from the U.S.-Mexican border, the descendants of one of the oldest Christian communities in the world wait to be delivered from purgatory.
They came from Iraq and say they only want to practice their faith, free from the threat of ISIS. But for several months, 28 Chaldean Christians have had to pray behind the barbed wire fences of San Diego’s Otay Detention Facility, captives of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency and facing deportation. A dozen have already been ticketed for removal.
“In Iraq, they only had three choices: convert to Islam, death by the sword or leave the country,” said Mark Arabo, head of the Minority Humanitarian Foundation. “They’ve refused to convert, escaped slavery and death – only to be imprisoned by our broken immigration system.
“These aren’t people who woke up one day and said, ‘Let me walk to America.’ They were forced out of their homes because of our inaction in the region. Because of our troop withdrawal. These are people who were sentenced to death because of our involvement in the country.”
They escaped near-certain death, but not the U.S. court system.”
AJ, For some of us it is a new low to see some of our conservative friends supporting Trump. It is bad enough to see people we know supporting perversion. It is completely unacceptable to see conservative friends supporting New York City rudeness.
“The Obama administration was accused Thursday of ignoring a judge’s order to turn over documents in the downing of a helicopter that killed Navy SEALs from the unit that carried out the raid on Usama bin Laden.
Families of Navy SEAL Team 6 members and others killed in the attack marked the fourth anniversary of the Aug. 6, 2011, tragedy by blasting the government for stonewalling in a public records lawsuit filed by the watchdog group Freedom Watch, the Washington Times reported. All 38 people aboard the chopper, call sign Execution 17, were killed over the Wardak Province in Afghanistan, including 30 Americans.
“It has now been four years since Extortion 17 was shot down,” Doug Hamburger, whose son Patrick was killed, told the paper. “I find it quite disturbing that the government is not willing to give us the answers we deserve. I find it very irritating that we will not question the Afghans about their knowledge of what took place that night.”
The families believe SEAL TEAM 6 had been turned into a Taliban target after President Obama revealed that members of the team, though not the ones killed in the crash, were involved in the killing of bin Laden in Pakistan three months earlier.
They also believe that persons inside the Afghan National Security Forces may have tipped off the Taliban to the Chinook’s mission.”
“In a letter sent to the U.S. State Department and just filed today with U.S. federal Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, the counsel for Cheryl Mills wrote: “Ms. Mills does not believe that she has paper copies of potential records in her possession. Following our production on August 10, 2015 [of the defense counsel’s version of the electronic records], we have instructed her to delete any and all electronic records in her possession.”
That is a far stretch from a statement by Ms. Mills under penalty of perjury, and she and her lawyers are planning to delete the emails Judge Sullivan wants produced?
Judicial Watch has made an emergency filing in Judge Sullivan’s court to stop the further destruction of evidence of what may very well be assorted criminal conduct and violations of numerous federal laws.
This all just surfaced in State Department’s status report filed today in response to Judge Sullivan’s order. Yesterday evening, State finally produced some correspondence between it and Hillary’s right and left hands—Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills. It has not produced its correspondence with Mrs. Clinton, and it is now clear that Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills plan to thumb their noses at the Judge and the State Department. No one is “cooperating,” despite their empty rhetoric to the contrary.
The correspondence that has been produced verifies that the State Department itself has not been forthcoming with Judge Sullivan, with Congress, or with anyone else. It allowed Mrs. Clinton to use an off-the-grid system for her entire tenure in the Department, and it kept that startling fact a secret as long as possible. It is simply shocking that the State Department did not immediately inform Congress, the Court, and Judicial Watch that Mrs. Clinton operated solely on a private email server and that the State Department did not have her records. It took months even to discover those crucial facts. And as Judge Emmet G. Sullivan bores toward the truth, more revelations continue to surface.”
“The police detectives who investigated the death of Freddie Gray were told that he had a history of participating in “crash-for-cash” schemes — injuring himself in law enforcement settings to collect settlements — but were advised by a state prosecutor not to pursue the information, according to defense attorneys for the six officers charged in Gray’s arrest and death.
The defense attorneys said in a court motion Thursday that Assistant State’s Attorney Janice Bledsoe told police investigators working the case in its early stages not to “do the defense attorneys’ jobs for them” by pursuing information they had about such schemes and evidence that Gray “intentionally injured himself at the Baltimore City Detention Center.”
Bledsoe, the lead prosecutor in the case against the officers, represented Gray in a 2012 case in which he pleaded guilty to possession of cocaine.
The defense attorneys argued that her alleged statement “would seem to indicate some level of knowledge that exculpatory evidence exists which could benefit the officers charged in Mr. Gray’s death and that the prosecutor did not want this information uncovered by investigators.”
The defense attorneys said they obtained the information from interviews with prosecution witnesses.
They have argued in previous motions that Baltimore State’s Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby has failed to provide large amounts of evidence through the normal discovery process, and that they have spent hundreds of hours collecting evidence on their own.”
“A group of black pastors sent a letter to the director of the Smithsonian Institution’s National Portrait Gallery asking that the bust of Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger be removed from the museum’s “Struggle for Justice” exhibit, citing her support for eugenics and the targeting of minorities by the nation’s largest abortion provider.
“Perhaps the Gallery is unaware that Ms. Sanger supported black eugenics, a racist attitude toward black and other minority babies, an elitist attitude toward those she regarded as ‘the feeble minded;’ speaking at a rally of Ku Klux Klan women; and communications with Hitler sympathizers,” the letter from Ministers Taking a Stand states.
“Also the notorious ‘Negro Project,’ which sought to limit, if not eliminate black births, was her brainchild,” the letter states. “Despite these well- documented facts of history, her bust sits proudly in your gallery as a hero of justice.
“The obvious incongruity is staggering!” the letter states.”
“The group says that Sanger should not be part of an exhibit that features the real “champions” of the civil rights movement, including Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., and Rosa Parks.
“How can a person like Sanger, who found common cause with the racial agenda of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), be ranked among true champions of ‘justice?’” the letter states. “She was a purveyor of grave injustice against the most innocent and vulnerable among us.””
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Donald Trump made the surprising announcement Saturday afternoon that he was firing his top adviser, Roger Stone, but hours before the political consultant’s friends told POLITICO that he was actually quitting.
“Sorry @realDonaldTrump didn’t fire me – I fired Trump. Diasagree with diversion to food fight with @megynkelly away core issue messages,” Stone, referencing Trump’s battle with a moderator of Fox’s Republican debate Thursday, said just before 3 p.m. on Twitter. …
(according to the story, the breakup went like this):
Stone: “Donald, stop with the Megyn Kelly ****. It’s ******** crazy. It’s killing us.”
Trump: “What do you mean? I won the debate. People loved it.”
Stone: “You didn’t win the debate.”
Trump: “Yes I did. Look at the polling. Look at Drudge.”
Stone: “The Drudge Report poll isn’t a scientific poll. You won’t give me the money to pay for a scientific poll. And you’re off-message.”
Trump: “There are other polls.”
Stone: “Those are bull**** polls, Donald. They’re not scientific polls. We need to run a professional campaign and talk about what people really care about.”
Trump: “We’re winning.”
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… I’ll stipulate that Kelly went after Trump hard when she asked him about past comments in which he used the words “pig,” “slob” and “unattractive” to describe women he doesn’t like. But it’s not a ridiculous question.
Republican primary voters need to know whether Trump can avoid insulting women, who make up a majority of the electorate. Now we know. He can’t. ….
…. If anything, we don’t have time for would-be leaders who, due to lack of decency and restraint, become embroiled in these kinds of disputes.
After Thursday’s debate I wrote: “I doubt that [Trump] did anything that will cause many of the 20 to 25 percent that support him to reconsider just now.” Let’s hope that “just now” ended with Trump’s ugly attack on Megyn Kelly.
It is hard for me to get too excited about the threat from foreign Muslims while huge gangs of criminal anarchists have taken over many large cities by preventing our police from doing their jobs. Our children will have to live like South Africans if they want to live in a major city: Pay to live in a fortress-like gated community and pay private guards to protect their families from the criminal underclass whose food, clothing, shelter, healthcare and phones they will also pay for.
At some point, groups of conservative Americans will begin to emigrate to Russia.
The video of poor Sanders is sad or hilarious, depending on your perspective. Republicans have their one idiot (Trump), but the Democrats have truly allowed the idiots to take over the asylum.
The Sanders video: Oh brother. That was pretty awkward & embarrassing.
Reminds me of my generation in their “in your face” radical heyday.
I guess there have been complaints that Sanders has ignored the Black Lives Matter movement, resting on his laurels of having marched with MLK 50 years ago.
Could all make for an interesting Democratic convention next year.
“While Trump was the center of conversation, the other candidates still managed to make an impression with an important group of voters — many of them Southerners who will be voting in the so-called SEC primary next year on March 1. …”
Fiorina is on Chris Wallace’s show today. She comes off as pretty unflappable, natural, open and very comfortable talking off the cuff. And smart.
I doubt she’d wind up getting the nomination, but she certainly will be at the top of any list for a VP pick.
And on a trivial note, her eye makeup looks great (probably provided by Fox) — I remember watching an interview with her a few months ago and I was weirdly distracted by her eyeliner that seemed to float somewhere too far above the lash line, it looked odd and just kind of awful, I kept thinking she needs someone to do her makeup. Picky, I know, but one of those things that female candidates have to worry about that their male counterparts (most of them anyway?) don’t.
After making offensive remarks about hispanics, immigrants, veterans, other republicans, etc., the republican elite is drawing the line at insulting a fox news actor? A little late for damage control.
Speaking of Clinton conspiracies, some Sanders supporters see her behind the two BLM takeovers of sanders speeches. Many BLM activists are upset with these interuptions since they view Sanders as one of their few allies.
The group asking about extortion 17 isnt getting the answers they want or deserve. This happens when answers dont match your own narrative. Getting the answers to match your narrative from a wartime incident is always a problem; the military is reticent and the facts unclear. Other groups had similar issues with the bush admin.
I read a book on Sanger which was fairky balanced. It didnt hide away from eugenicist controversy but placing it in historical context, the author tried to mitigate her views. No matter the ideology, eugenic ideas were fairly common at the time. Any exhibit involving Sanger needs to discuss eugenics but also the context. Its a good illustration on how concepts of rights and justice occassionally conflict and on the changing nature of justice/rights over time. It would make for an educational experience but the complexity may not be what the average museum goer would like to experience
HRW, Trump’s immigrant remark was taken out of context though some Republicans did call him on it and most did take a stand on his veterans remark. This is why he is threatening them now. What else can they do? All journalist need to boycott him over the Kelly threat. He has pretty much told them all, tick me off by doing your job and you will pay. H e has declared war on free press. Do they really want a president like that?
Um, HRW? Most conservatives or Republicans weren’t at all fond of Trump before 🙂
Trump is Trump. One of our reporters has interviewed him by phone through the years (he operates a huge golf course in our area) and it pretty much always ended up in a shouting match.
The dustup with Kelly just sort of sealed what was to be Trump’s inevitable fate.
Given enough rope, he’s predictably hanging himself, politically speaking.
There is no cure for the Touch of Death, or Dim Mak as it’s known in those cheesy martial arts movies.
Legend and comic books tell us that it is a precise and forceful strike, with delayed yet fatal result, sometimes taking days or weeks to do its work.
It is subtle, quick, almost unseen, and usually delivered by a monk or some warrior priest with a topknot. Uma Thurman used it to great effect in “Kill Bill: Vol 2.” When she was done, she flashed a smirk of wistful sadness.
That’s what happened to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, which received the Touch of Death from Megyn Kelly, the warrior priestess of Fox News. …
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It seems the Black Lives Maters (Charleston spelling) crowd, like modern Iranians and Hitler, can sense weakness and passivity. You don’t see them at a Cruz rally in Texas or Alabama. They knew right where they could go to take the microphone out of the hands of a candidate right in front of thousands of his supporters.
Poor Sanders never had to deal with anything similar in Vermont with its 1% black population. My suggestion Is that he post big men holding Confederate flags on either side of him when he speaks. They work like crucifixes work on vampires.
Im sure its been the inevitable drip-drip but one cannot fail that the closer he came to the republican base the more the republican elite became alarmed.
In the end he is slowly hanging himself yet has managed to turn the republican primary into a new version of the apprentice.
Sanders is a polish jew born and raised in brooklyn. He went to school in the university of Chicago and became active in the civil rights movement. I think he has a wealth of experience in how to deal with radicals with righteous anger.
Some BLM are critical of liberal passivity but they have the wrong target; sanders isnt a liberal. Of course theres no way they will ever get close her stage.
How does bernie recover from the BLM interuption. Give a speech a few hours later to an even bigget crowd and then step outside the arena to talk to a thousand or so who couldnt get in;
As noted above, “They knew right where they could go to take the microphone out of the hands of the candidate right in front of thousands of his supporters.” Sanders and his Seattle supporters are the personification of passivity. Putin, the Chinese and the Iranians are licking their lips.
” He has pretty much told them all, tick me off by doing your job and you will pay. He has declared war on free press. Do they really want a president like that?”
Yep. Just like Obama. 😆
Maybe Trump should do some hard hitting interviews like Obama does, maybe that green haired YouTube lady. Or some other similar no audience, no substance interview. Just like Obama. 🙂
Sanders was just giving us a preview of the U.S. military in a Sanders Administration. His security detail was trained by the homosexual, unionized Dutch military that wound up handcuffed to telephone polls by the Serbs a few years back.
Not that I’m being critical. As a Putin fan, I hope the U.S. turns to Sanders. He is the answer to the question: How do you top Obama?
The problem with Trump is that conservatives are fine with the 1st amendment. We believed he has a right to his opinion. Unlike the left, we don’t tend to try to utterly destroy people who say things we disagree with. I think that was the initial appeal of Trump, he fought back against those who tried to do that to him over the immigrant comment. Now, as he and his followers try to destroy Kelly, he has become what he fought.
Curious. Do primary canidates have a security detail or do they provide their own.
People are free to say what they want on their own but what is said within a political party becomes part of their brand and thus party discipline is appropriate. The party elite could have disowned trump anytime but chose the kelly incident to make a stand. This indicates their tolerance and approval.
You can’t have it both ways. You want to fault people who had slaves or thought black people were inferior when it was the science that was taught at the time–wrong, but it was “science”. Now you want to defend Sanger and say that she was just a product of her time. Uh, uh, uh…you can’t have it both ways.
Not having it both ways. Slavery and eugenics are wrong but the slave owner and sanger need to judged within context. History provides lessons but makes moral condemnation difficult.
Wandering Views 
Trump should learn that you don’t attack a beautiful woman who has a television camera and microphone.
You just don’t
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I have some right wing friends who are all offended about Kelly’s question to Walker on abortion. I tried to tell them that the question was going to come up, isn’t it better that he gets a chance to answer in front of 24 million people rather than those same people getting only the left’s interpretation of his answer. She did her job. This was not Msnbc where democrats get asked their favorite color and told how wonderful they are. The right is better than that. We welcome real dialogue. It’s the left who try to silence people
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And if Trump can’t handle Kelly, Putin will destroy him.
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My wife noted this morning that from a Southern perspective, Donald Trump and Rosie O’Donnell are essentially the same person.
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What was the abortion question put to Walker? I remember the one she asked Rubio (about his supporting exceptions for rape & the mother’s health, which sounded like he dodged/faked his way through pretty much).
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She asked him if he would be willing for a woman to die rather then have an abortion. I thought Walker handle it well
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Oh right, I think that happened on my commute home so I just heard it on the car radio — can’t remember his response though.
They’re all fair questions. Kelly last night was saying that Rubio should/could have simply explained that while he is opposed to abortion in all cases, the political reality makes the exceptions in extreme cases reasonable and/or necessary to allow.
Instead, he tried to deny that he ever supported any exceptions.
I’ll be interested to see what the polling date shows this weekend now that everyone’s had a chance to digest it all a bit.
Fiorina will get a bump, that’s for sure — I missed the earlier debate but heard some of her answers replayed yesterday on a program. She’s good.
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(And listening via the radio only, I wasn’t always sure of who was speaking at any given time if I’d missed the name)
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Trump apparently has been “dis-invited” to a RedState.com event being held today after his more recent comments about Kelly.
He sounds about 12 years old in this statement that was released (calling the organizer of the RedState event “a total loser”). Sigh. Hoping things can move on to a more adult discussion soon (but not holding my breath).
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/08/trumps-statement.php
And the earlier post: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/08/trumps-descent.php
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In better days, one of Kelly’s male relatives would have challenged Trump to a duel. If Jim Webb were debating Trump, I have hope that he would beat the tar out of Trump if Trump was rude to a Southern lady.
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Like I said the other night, there’s no need to pile on Trump, he’ll destroy his candidacy all by his lonesome. But it has been kinda fun to watch, and he did get us discussing some things that needed to be talked about. Even court jesters have their uses. 🙂
And I better see Carly’s face at the next top tier debate. She earned it.
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Maybe he’ll go back ‘home’ to the Democrats to whom he’s given so much of his money 🙂
It is rather interesting to consider who may really be supporting Trump …
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html
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Former president Bill Clinton had a private telephone conversation in late spring with Donald Trump at the same time that the billionaire investor and reality-television star was nearing a decision to run for the White House, according to associates of both men.
Four Trump allies and one Clinton associate familiar with the exchange said that Clinton encouraged Trump’s efforts to play a larger role in the Republican Party and offered his own views of the political landscape.
Clinton’s personal office in New York confirmed that the call occurred in late May, but an aide to Clinton said the 2016 race was never specifically discussed and that it was only a casual chat.
The talk with Clinton — the spouse of the Democratic presidential front-runner and one of his party’s preeminent political strategists — came just weeks before Trump jumped into the GOP race and surged to the front of the crowded Republican field. …
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And in other news….
Terrorism suspects get counseling…..
http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/06/fbi-now-refers-some-potential-terror-suspects-to-counseling/
“The FBI is now referring some potential terror suspects to counseling in a new strategy to defeat homegrown Islamic State supporters.
Rather than lock up everyone in the U.S. suspected of potential terrorist activity, the FBI will refer up to 10 percent of the thousands of people under investigation to counseling, reported The Wall Street Journal.
Proponents of the plan told TheWSJ it will ease the FBI’s investigative burden, and provide a possible “off ramp” from radicalization for some of the thousands of people in the U.S. interested in ISIS, especially minors.
“Nobody wants to see a 15-year-old kid go to jail if they don’t have to,” an official working on the new plan told TheWSJ, adding that the FBI will continue monitoring potential suspects referred to counseling and stand ready to arrest them.”
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While Christian refugees fleeing ISIS in Iraq get deported. Apparently there is a group that came in illegally that Obama wants deported. They, more than most from S.A., deserve asylum because they’re actually being persecuted and threatened with death, rape, and kidnapping. Yet what does this admin do?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/06/iraqi-christians-held-for-months-by-ice-after-crossing-mexican-border-in-asylum/?intcmp=trending
“Just a few miles from the U.S.-Mexican border, the descendants of one of the oldest Christian communities in the world wait to be delivered from purgatory — and live in fear of being returned to hell.
Just a few miles from the U.S.-Mexican border, the descendants of one of the oldest Christian communities in the world wait to be delivered from purgatory.
They came from Iraq and say they only want to practice their faith, free from the threat of ISIS. But for several months, 28 Chaldean Christians have had to pray behind the barbed wire fences of San Diego’s Otay Detention Facility, captives of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency and facing deportation. A dozen have already been ticketed for removal.
“In Iraq, they only had three choices: convert to Islam, death by the sword or leave the country,” said Mark Arabo, head of the Minority Humanitarian Foundation. “They’ve refused to convert, escaped slavery and death – only to be imprisoned by our broken immigration system.
“These aren’t people who woke up one day and said, ‘Let me walk to America.’ They were forced out of their homes because of our inaction in the region. Because of our troop withdrawal. These are people who were sentenced to death because of our involvement in the country.”
They escaped near-certain death, but not the U.S. court system.”
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AJ, For some of us it is a new low to see some of our conservative friends supporting Trump. It is bad enough to see people we know supporting perversion. It is completely unacceptable to see conservative friends supporting New York City rudeness.
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The Obama admin obstructing an investigation into possible wrong doing?
This is my shocked face 😕 Not.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/07/watchdog-group-claims-obama-administration-ignoring-order-to-reveal-documents/?intcmp=hplnws
“The Obama administration was accused Thursday of ignoring a judge’s order to turn over documents in the downing of a helicopter that killed Navy SEALs from the unit that carried out the raid on Usama bin Laden.
Families of Navy SEAL Team 6 members and others killed in the attack marked the fourth anniversary of the Aug. 6, 2011, tragedy by blasting the government for stonewalling in a public records lawsuit filed by the watchdog group Freedom Watch, the Washington Times reported. All 38 people aboard the chopper, call sign Execution 17, were killed over the Wardak Province in Afghanistan, including 30 Americans.
“It has now been four years since Extortion 17 was shot down,” Doug Hamburger, whose son Patrick was killed, told the paper. “I find it quite disturbing that the government is not willing to give us the answers we deserve. I find it very irritating that we will not question the Afghans about their knowledge of what took place that night.”
The families believe SEAL TEAM 6 had been turned into a Taliban target after President Obama revealed that members of the team, though not the ones killed in the crash, were involved in the killing of bin Laden in Pakistan three months earlier.
They also believe that persons inside the Afghan National Security Forces may have tipped off the Taliban to the Chinook’s mission.”
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And speaking of obstruction….
“In a letter sent to the U.S. State Department and just filed today with U.S. federal Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, the counsel for Cheryl Mills wrote: “Ms. Mills does not believe that she has paper copies of potential records in her possession. Following our production on August 10, 2015 [of the defense counsel’s version of the electronic records], we have instructed her to delete any and all electronic records in her possession.”
That is a far stretch from a statement by Ms. Mills under penalty of perjury, and she and her lawyers are planning to delete the emails Judge Sullivan wants produced?
Judicial Watch has made an emergency filing in Judge Sullivan’s court to stop the further destruction of evidence of what may very well be assorted criminal conduct and violations of numerous federal laws.
This all just surfaced in State Department’s status report filed today in response to Judge Sullivan’s order. Yesterday evening, State finally produced some correspondence between it and Hillary’s right and left hands—Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills. It has not produced its correspondence with Mrs. Clinton, and it is now clear that Mrs. Clinton, Ms. Abedin and Ms. Mills plan to thumb their noses at the Judge and the State Department. No one is “cooperating,” despite their empty rhetoric to the contrary.
The correspondence that has been produced verifies that the State Department itself has not been forthcoming with Judge Sullivan, with Congress, or with anyone else. It allowed Mrs. Clinton to use an off-the-grid system for her entire tenure in the Department, and it kept that startling fact a secret as long as possible. It is simply shocking that the State Department did not immediately inform Congress, the Court, and Judicial Watch that Mrs. Clinton operated solely on a private email server and that the State Department did not have her records. It took months even to discover those crucial facts. And as Judge Emmet G. Sullivan bores toward the truth, more revelations continue to surface.”
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Again, not shocking…..
Looks like another of the left’s narratives is about to be debunked.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-gray-recusal-filing-20150806-story.html
“The police detectives who investigated the death of Freddie Gray were told that he had a history of participating in “crash-for-cash” schemes — injuring himself in law enforcement settings to collect settlements — but were advised by a state prosecutor not to pursue the information, according to defense attorneys for the six officers charged in Gray’s arrest and death.
The defense attorneys said in a court motion Thursday that Assistant State’s Attorney Janice Bledsoe told police investigators working the case in its early stages not to “do the defense attorneys’ jobs for them” by pursuing information they had about such schemes and evidence that Gray “intentionally injured himself at the Baltimore City Detention Center.”
Bledsoe, the lead prosecutor in the case against the officers, represented Gray in a 2012 case in which he pleaded guilty to possession of cocaine.
The defense attorneys argued that her alleged statement “would seem to indicate some level of knowledge that exculpatory evidence exists which could benefit the officers charged in Mr. Gray’s death and that the prosecutor did not want this information uncovered by investigators.”
The defense attorneys said they obtained the information from interviews with prosecution witnesses.
They have argued in previous motions that Baltimore State’s Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby has failed to provide large amounts of evidence through the normal discovery process, and that they have spent hundreds of hours collecting evidence on their own.”
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This one is little shocking. It’s about time they point out the obvious.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/penny-starr/black-pastors-ask-smithsonian-remove-bust-planned-parenthood-founder
“A group of black pastors sent a letter to the director of the Smithsonian Institution’s National Portrait Gallery asking that the bust of Planned Parenthood Founder Margaret Sanger be removed from the museum’s “Struggle for Justice” exhibit, citing her support for eugenics and the targeting of minorities by the nation’s largest abortion provider.
“Perhaps the Gallery is unaware that Ms. Sanger supported black eugenics, a racist attitude toward black and other minority babies, an elitist attitude toward those she regarded as ‘the feeble minded;’ speaking at a rally of Ku Klux Klan women; and communications with Hitler sympathizers,” the letter from Ministers Taking a Stand states.
“Also the notorious ‘Negro Project,’ which sought to limit, if not eliminate black births, was her brainchild,” the letter states. “Despite these well- documented facts of history, her bust sits proudly in your gallery as a hero of justice.
“The obvious incongruity is staggering!” the letter states.”
“The group says that Sanger should not be part of an exhibit that features the real “champions” of the civil rights movement, including Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., and Rosa Parks.
“How can a person like Sanger, who found common cause with the racial agenda of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), be ranked among true champions of ‘justice?’” the letter states. “She was a purveyor of grave injustice against the most innocent and vulnerable among us.””
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Looks like an internal shakeup (and the beginnings of the implosion?) in the Trump campaign. It really is a character thing:
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/sources-roger-stone-quit-wasnt-fired-by-donald-trump-in-campaign-shakeup-121177.html#ixzz3iG70zOMf
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Donald Trump made the surprising announcement Saturday afternoon that he was firing his top adviser, Roger Stone, but hours before the political consultant’s friends told POLITICO that he was actually quitting.
“Sorry @realDonaldTrump didn’t fire me – I fired Trump. Diasagree with diversion to food fight with @megynkelly away core issue messages,” Stone, referencing Trump’s battle with a moderator of Fox’s Republican debate Thursday, said just before 3 p.m. on Twitter. …
(according to the story, the breakup went like this):
Stone: “Donald, stop with the Megyn Kelly ****. It’s ******** crazy. It’s killing us.”
Trump: “What do you mean? I won the debate. People loved it.”
Stone: “You didn’t win the debate.”
Trump: “Yes I did. Look at the polling. Look at Drudge.”
Stone: “The Drudge Report poll isn’t a scientific poll. You won’t give me the money to pay for a scientific poll. And you’re off-message.”
Trump: “There are other polls.”
Stone: “Those are bull**** polls, Donald. They’re not scientific polls. We need to run a professional campaign and talk about what people really care about.”
Trump: “We’re winning.”
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Trump would make a great dictator.
I don’t think he is presidential material.
That’s what Obama thinks we elected him to be.
The Great Dictator.
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Yep.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/08/trumps-excuses.php
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… I’ll stipulate that Kelly went after Trump hard when she asked him about past comments in which he used the words “pig,” “slob” and “unattractive” to describe women he doesn’t like. But it’s not a ridiculous question.
Republican primary voters need to know whether Trump can avoid insulting women, who make up a majority of the electorate. Now we know. He can’t. ….
…. If anything, we don’t have time for would-be leaders who, due to lack of decency and restraint, become embroiled in these kinds of disputes.
After Thursday’s debate I wrote: “I doubt that [Trump] did anything that will cause many of the 20 to 25 percent that support him to reconsider just now.” Let’s hope that “just now” ended with Trump’s ugly attack on Megyn Kelly.
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He is an admitted socialist, but it is not enough. This story is a perfect metaphor for modern America.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/08/08/bernie-sanders-forced-off-seattle-stage-by-black-lives-matter/
It is hard for me to get too excited about the threat from foreign Muslims while huge gangs of criminal anarchists have taken over many large cities by preventing our police from doing their jobs. Our children will have to live like South Africans if they want to live in a major city: Pay to live in a fortress-like gated community and pay private guards to protect their families from the criminal underclass whose food, clothing, shelter, healthcare and phones they will also pay for.
At some point, groups of conservative Americans will begin to emigrate to Russia.
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The video of poor Sanders is sad or hilarious, depending on your perspective. Republicans have their one idiot (Trump), but the Democrats have truly allowed the idiots to take over the asylum.
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So all of us can wear those cute fur hats in Russia, I suppose that’s one perk. 🙂
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The Sanders video: Oh brother. That was pretty awkward & embarrassing.
Reminds me of my generation in their “in your face” radical heyday.
I guess there have been complaints that Sanders has ignored the Black Lives Matter movement, resting on his laurels of having marched with MLK 50 years ago.
Could all make for an interesting Democratic convention next year.
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Poltico roundup of yesterday’s RedState event:
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/redstate-convention-5-takeaways-121183.html
“While Trump was the center of conversation, the other candidates still managed to make an impression with an important group of voters — many of them Southerners who will be voting in the so-called SEC primary next year on March 1. …”
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Fiorina is on Chris Wallace’s show today. She comes off as pretty unflappable, natural, open and very comfortable talking off the cuff. And smart.
I doubt she’d wind up getting the nomination, but she certainly will be at the top of any list for a VP pick.
And on a trivial note, her eye makeup looks great (probably provided by Fox) — I remember watching an interview with her a few months ago and I was weirdly distracted by her eyeliner that seemed to float somewhere too far above the lash line, it looked odd and just kind of awful, I kept thinking she needs someone to do her makeup. Picky, I know, but one of those things that female candidates have to worry about that their male counterparts (most of them anyway?) don’t.
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After making offensive remarks about hispanics, immigrants, veterans, other republicans, etc., the republican elite is drawing the line at insulting a fox news actor? A little late for damage control.
Speaking of Clinton conspiracies, some Sanders supporters see her behind the two BLM takeovers of sanders speeches. Many BLM activists are upset with these interuptions since they view Sanders as one of their few allies.
The group asking about extortion 17 isnt getting the answers they want or deserve. This happens when answers dont match your own narrative. Getting the answers to match your narrative from a wartime incident is always a problem; the military is reticent and the facts unclear. Other groups had similar issues with the bush admin.
I read a book on Sanger which was fairky balanced. It didnt hide away from eugenicist controversy but placing it in historical context, the author tried to mitigate her views. No matter the ideology, eugenic ideas were fairly common at the time. Any exhibit involving Sanger needs to discuss eugenics but also the context. Its a good illustration on how concepts of rights and justice occassionally conflict and on the changing nature of justice/rights over time. It would make for an educational experience but the complexity may not be what the average museum goer would like to experience
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HRW, Trump’s immigrant remark was taken out of context though some Republicans did call him on it and most did take a stand on his veterans remark. This is why he is threatening them now. What else can they do? All journalist need to boycott him over the Kelly threat. He has pretty much told them all, tick me off by doing your job and you will pay. H e has declared war on free press. Do they really want a president like that?
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Um, HRW? Most conservatives or Republicans weren’t at all fond of Trump before 🙂
Trump is Trump. One of our reporters has interviewed him by phone through the years (he operates a huge golf course in our area) and it pretty much always ended up in a shouting match.
The dustup with Kelly just sort of sealed what was to be Trump’s inevitable fate.
Given enough rope, he’s predictably hanging himself, politically speaking.
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That said, it is possible (and many hope) that Kelly managed to land the inevitable death blow.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-kass-trump-death-touch-met-0809-20150809-column.html
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There is no cure for the Touch of Death, or Dim Mak as it’s known in those cheesy martial arts movies.
Legend and comic books tell us that it is a precise and forceful strike, with delayed yet fatal result, sometimes taking days or weeks to do its work.
It is subtle, quick, almost unseen, and usually delivered by a monk or some warrior priest with a topknot. Uma Thurman used it to great effect in “Kill Bill: Vol 2.” When she was done, she flashed a smirk of wistful sadness.
That’s what happened to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, which received the Touch of Death from Megyn Kelly, the warrior priestess of Fox News. …
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HRW, I wouldn’t put anything past the Clintons.
It seems the Black Lives Maters (Charleston spelling) crowd, like modern Iranians and Hitler, can sense weakness and passivity. You don’t see them at a Cruz rally in Texas or Alabama. They knew right where they could go to take the microphone out of the hands of a candidate right in front of thousands of his supporters.
Poor Sanders never had to deal with anything similar in Vermont with its 1% black population. My suggestion Is that he post big men holding Confederate flags on either side of him when he speaks. They work like crucifixes work on vampires.
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Im sure its been the inevitable drip-drip but one cannot fail that the closer he came to the republican base the more the republican elite became alarmed.
In the end he is slowly hanging himself yet has managed to turn the republican primary into a new version of the apprentice.
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Sanders is a polish jew born and raised in brooklyn. He went to school in the university of Chicago and became active in the civil rights movement. I think he has a wealth of experience in how to deal with radicals with righteous anger.
Some BLM are critical of liberal passivity but they have the wrong target; sanders isnt a liberal. Of course theres no way they will ever get close her stage.
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That’s the point.
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How does bernie recover from the BLM interuption. Give a speech a few hours later to an even bigget crowd and then step outside the arena to talk to a thousand or so who couldnt get in;
http://reverbpress.com/politics/bernie-sanders-addresses-overflow-crowd-of-3000-in-wa-video/
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Why my name doesnt always appear i have no idea.
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As noted above, “They knew right where they could go to take the microphone out of the hands of the candidate right in front of thousands of his supporters.” Sanders and his Seattle supporters are the personification of passivity. Putin, the Chinese and the Iranians are licking their lips.
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KBells,
” He has pretty much told them all, tick me off by doing your job and you will pay. He has declared war on free press. Do they really want a president like that?”
Yep. Just like Obama. 😆
Maybe Trump should do some hard hitting interviews like Obama does, maybe that green haired YouTube lady. Or some other similar no audience, no substance interview. Just like Obama. 🙂
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As for Sanders……
Mwahahahahahahahahahahaha (breathes) hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Couldn’t happen to a nicer commie. 🙂
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Also,
If Sanders can’t handle or stand up to BLM, how can anyone possibly think he can handle the Russians or Iranians? He kinda ran and hid here.
And where the heck was his security detail?
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Sanders was just giving us a preview of the U.S. military in a Sanders Administration. His security detail was trained by the homosexual, unionized Dutch military that wound up handcuffed to telephone polls by the Serbs a few years back.
Not that I’m being critical. As a Putin fan, I hope the U.S. turns to Sanders. He is the answer to the question: How do you top Obama?
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The problem with Trump is that conservatives are fine with the 1st amendment. We believed he has a right to his opinion. Unlike the left, we don’t tend to try to utterly destroy people who say things we disagree with. I think that was the initial appeal of Trump, he fought back against those who tried to do that to him over the immigrant comment. Now, as he and his followers try to destroy Kelly, he has become what he fought.
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Curious. Do primary canidates have a security detail or do they provide their own.
People are free to say what they want on their own but what is said within a political party becomes part of their brand and thus party discipline is appropriate. The party elite could have disowned trump anytime but chose the kelly incident to make a stand. This indicates their tolerance and approval.
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While Iran rolls Obama and two black ladies roll Sanders, Putin announces alliance with Santa Claus and elf community.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/russia-submits-claim-over-arctic-north-pole-un-citing-scientific-proof-1514616
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HRW, They can accept Secret Service protection at a certain point of viability which Sanders has clearly reached with the size of his crowds.
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You can’t have it both ways. You want to fault people who had slaves or thought black people were inferior when it was the science that was taught at the time–wrong, but it was “science”. Now you want to defend Sanger and say that she was just a product of her time. Uh, uh, uh…you can’t have it both ways.
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Re: Carly Fiorina – Wouldn’t it just be a kick in the pants to Democrats if the first female president or vice president is a Republican? 🙂
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Not having it both ways. Slavery and eugenics are wrong but the slave owner and sanger need to judged within context. History provides lessons but makes moral condemnation difficult.
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oh, why hello 49, you are just waiting here
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