Duke is going to have a dynasty. If they don’t all go pro.
That happens.
The ACC has always been strong in basketball. They call it “Tobacco Row” in NC. Wake Forest, Duke, UNC, and NC State all together. It was tough on the other four (at the time) SC, Va. UMD and Clemson because almost every game was a home game for the NC four. They are so close together.
I am interested in your thoughts on this. I have done a quick google search but not full out research. It does seem strange to me that religious documents appear that no one has heard of. I know that we have had homosexuals among us forever. I mean there is the term “Boston Marriage”. I also have a fair number of gay friends and relatives so I am probably a little more tolerant than most.
Catholics raise nice girls, I married one.
Catholics also have priests. Protestants have a Priesthood of Believers.
The first couple of examples might be Orthodox.
I am stuck on the Bible teaching that Gay is not what GOD wants. Besides that, do you know what Gay men do to each other? Yuck!
Kim, I think it’s an attempt to justify something that can’t be justified.
The Bible is clear on this. I Cor. 6:9-10, and 6:18. According to Paul, the sexual act makes the two one. That is not, as some preachers say, a Spiritual thing. It joins the man and women and makes ONE FLESH.
That is a serious situation. I have become one flesh with Elvera. I thought about it often.
Makes a difference.
There is no way that a man can be joined to another man.
There is lots of talk about two men, two women, loving each other. OK, we can accept that.
Nobody ever mentions what homosexuals of both sexes do.
It is impossible to make them ONE FLESH.
No religion, an any time has allowed a man to form a family with another man.
At no time in history have two men or two woman made a family.
Somebody had to find something somewhere to make it appear normal.
NONSENSE
I just re-read my post, and something occurred to me. Then I started laughing to myself about it.
The male-female thing is a wondrous concept. You have male-and female connections in everything.
Example: You put a male plug into a female electrical outlet and wonderful things happen.
YES!
Interesting link, roscuro (though I mostly scanned it toward the end) — but I spotted that phrase “long and tortured attempt at historical reconstruction” and thought that was probably an apt description of what is going on with this issue right now as efforts are made to bring homosexuality into church acceptance.
Striking the right tone in addressing this issue (I appreciated the link’s intro on the site) is a very real challenge for Christians today. We’re in a difficult position with society’s overall push to fully accept homosexual relationships as “good” — which, as has been pointed out already, is contrary to what Scripture clearly teaches.
Many of us have gay co-workers, friends & even relatives (I’ve had all 3) whom we care about. I live in an area that has celebrating being gay for decades now. There’s no one really left in the closet anymore (although now some Christians may find themselves there at times).
But as a political/social issue (that is also being pressed by some within the church itself), it still comes down to a case of calling evil good and good evil — nothing new under the sun, of course.
We live in an upside down world. We are called to love and pray, to be good friends & to be loving relatives — we are tolerant in the same sense that all our loved ones are flawed and plagued with sins of all kinds in this fallen world.
But we can’t go down the road of declaring these things “good.”
“When we’re not doctrinally and theologically rooted enough, we fall prey to something that’s called Christian sentimentality, which has the best of intentions of being empathetic and compassionate and understanding.
“But it does it to such an extent that it releases the floodgates of doctrinal parameters that ought to keep certain ethical boundaries in place. Sentimentality says, doctrine doesn’t matter. Sentimentality says, Paul may have said it, but he didn’t mean it, or, Jesus may have said it, but we live in different times. We’ve got to get over this.
“We’ve got to find a way to be both people of the Word who hold onto strong doctrinal theological convictions. At the same time, those doctrinal convictions have got to be rooted in the kind of people that Jesus calls us to be over and over again so that we’re known as people who love our neighbor, as people who are magnanimous at all costs, the first people to be there when a friend, whether they’re a believer or not, is in crisis. …”
From a World Magazine interview with Michael Cromartie, leader of the Faith Angle Forum:
I see in The Washington Times that the US and Israel have successfully tested a new missile defense system they call “David’s Sling”. It is supposed to be advanced of the Iron Dome system, but will supplement it.
Janice, yes, I can imagine it would be stressful working for the water dept — in our case, the department has been under lots of pressure to get themselves “fixed” and being better to their customers.
Annie’s meowing at the front door, I think she knows it’s about to start raining … Better let Her Highness in.
Duke is going to have a dynasty. If they don’t all go pro.
That happens.
The ACC has always been strong in basketball. They call it “Tobacco Row” in NC. Wake Forest, Duke, UNC, and NC State all together. It was tough on the other four (at the time) SC, Va. UMD and Clemson because almost every game was a home game for the NC four. They are so close together.
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I am interested in your thoughts on this. I have done a quick google search but not full out research. It does seem strange to me that religious documents appear that no one has heard of. I know that we have had homosexuals among us forever. I mean there is the term “Boston Marriage”. I also have a fair number of gay friends and relatives so I am probably a little more tolerant than most.
http://www.care2.com/causes/the-forgotten-history-of-gay-marriage.html
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Catholics raise nice girls, I married one.
Catholics also have priests. Protestants have a Priesthood of Believers.
The first couple of examples might be Orthodox.
I am stuck on the Bible teaching that Gay is not what GOD wants. Besides that, do you know what Gay men do to each other? Yuck!
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Kim, I think it’s an attempt to justify something that can’t be justified.
The Bible is clear on this. I Cor. 6:9-10, and 6:18. According to Paul, the sexual act makes the two one. That is not, as some preachers say, a Spiritual thing. It joins the man and women and makes ONE FLESH.
That is a serious situation. I have become one flesh with Elvera. I thought about it often.
Makes a difference.
There is no way that a man can be joined to another man.
There is lots of talk about two men, two women, loving each other. OK, we can accept that.
Nobody ever mentions what homosexuals of both sexes do.
It is impossible to make them ONE FLESH.
No religion, an any time has allowed a man to form a family with another man.
At no time in history have two men or two woman made a family.
Somebody had to find something somewhere to make it appear normal.
NONSENSE
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I just re-read my post, and something occurred to me. Then I started laughing to myself about it.
The male-female thing is a wondrous concept. You have male-and female connections in everything.
Example: You put a male plug into a female electrical outlet and wonderful things happen.
YES!
🙂
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I just think the “reinterpretation” of some things is suspicious
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Kim, when I read your link, I thought this is some kind of blood brotherhood ritual in the church. In ancient cultures, dear friends would swear undying loyalty and kinship to each other, often by cutting themselves and mingling the blood: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/69743/blood-brotherhood. David and Jonathan’s relationship was not unique in the ancient world – but it wasn’t homosexual. I think I found the counter link (it’s long, but worth reading): http://www.catholiceducation.org/en/marriage-and-family/sexuality/gay-marriage-reimagining-church-history.html
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Interesting link, roscuro (though I mostly scanned it toward the end) — but I spotted that phrase “long and tortured attempt at historical reconstruction” and thought that was probably an apt description of what is going on with this issue right now as efforts are made to bring homosexuality into church acceptance.
Striking the right tone in addressing this issue (I appreciated the link’s intro on the site) is a very real challenge for Christians today. We’re in a difficult position with society’s overall push to fully accept homosexual relationships as “good” — which, as has been pointed out already, is contrary to what Scripture clearly teaches.
Many of us have gay co-workers, friends & even relatives (I’ve had all 3) whom we care about. I live in an area that has celebrating being gay for decades now. There’s no one really left in the closet anymore (although now some Christians may find themselves there at times).
But as a political/social issue (that is also being pressed by some within the church itself), it still comes down to a case of calling evil good and good evil — nothing new under the sun, of course.
We live in an upside down world. We are called to love and pray, to be good friends & to be loving relatives — we are tolerant in the same sense that all our loved ones are flawed and plagued with sins of all kinds in this fallen world.
But we can’t go down the road of declaring these things “good.”
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“When we’re not doctrinally and theologically rooted enough, we fall prey to something that’s called Christian sentimentality, which has the best of intentions of being empathetic and compassionate and understanding.
“But it does it to such an extent that it releases the floodgates of doctrinal parameters that ought to keep certain ethical boundaries in place. Sentimentality says, doctrine doesn’t matter. Sentimentality says, Paul may have said it, but he didn’t mean it, or, Jesus may have said it, but we live in different times. We’ve got to get over this.
“We’ve got to find a way to be both people of the Word who hold onto strong doctrinal theological convictions. At the same time, those doctrinal convictions have got to be rooted in the kind of people that Jesus calls us to be over and over again so that we’re known as people who love our neighbor, as people who are magnanimous at all costs, the first people to be there when a friend, whether they’re a believer or not, is in crisis. …”
From a World Magazine interview with Michael Cromartie, leader of the Faith Angle Forum:
http://www.worldmag.com/2015/04/the_man_who_teaches_reporters_about_christianity
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DC goes dark
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/07/politics/power-outage-washington-dc/index.html
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Thank you Phos.
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I see in The Washington Times that the US and Israel have successfully tested a new missile defense system they call “David’s Sling”. It is supposed to be advanced of the Iron Dome system, but will supplement it.
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Good for Kirsten Powers
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/04/07/indiana-gay-protection-memories-pizza-eich-column/25373045/
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Janice, yes, I can imagine it would be stressful working for the water dept — in our case, the department has been under lots of pressure to get themselves “fixed” and being better to their customers.
Annie’s meowing at the front door, I think she knows it’s about to start raining … Better let Her Highness in.
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Ooops, that was meant to go on the daily thread
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As always the comments are very interesting
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Hahaha — Turns out there were more comments made from atop that high horse on Easter that some of us may have missed: 🙂
http://time.com/3774109/barack-obama-easter-breakfast/
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