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Our Daily Thread 1-23-15

Good Morning!

It’s Friday!!!

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On this day in 1789 Georgetown College was established as the first Catholic college in the U.S.

In 1920 the Dutch government refused the demands from the Allies to hand over the ex-kaiser of Germany. 

In 1937 seventeen people went on trial in Moscow during Josef Stalin’s “Great Purge.” 

And in 1950 the Israeli Knesset approved a resolution proclaiming Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. 

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Quote of the Day

“There, I guess King George will be able to read that without his spectacles!”

John Hancock

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 Today is Mike Hogan’s birthday, so that means Dave Crowder Band. From emimusic

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And I know I played this a month or so ago, but I like it, and it’s a live version. From Opry

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Anyone have a QoD?

84 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 1-23-15”

  4. Thanks for all the prayer support/encouragement yesterday about L.’s new school. Today is her fourth day and she says she likes it a lot better than Concordia. She went to our local public junior high 6th-8th, so already knows a bunch of kids.

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  5. QOD: Do you know what it smells like if 50 pounds of roasted peanuts sit in the back of your vehicle overnight while it is raining (closed in Xterra, but the rain added humidity)?

    Alternate QOD Who likes boiled peanuts?

    #3 Has anyone seen the Imitation Game? Thoughts? Comments? Critiques?

    Rainy and cold in the Sunny South.

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  6. I used to sell “boiled and parched peanuts” on the Battery in 1941. 5 cents a bag. I usually made $2.00 a night. The Battery wasn’t lighted in those days and sailors took their girls down there. I liked both, especially if the peanuts were boiled in salt water..
    This was in Charleston.

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  8. I’ve only tried boiled peanuts once, didn’t like them at all. Then my sister told me they were better hot, but I’ve never tried them that way. (Never had hot Krispy Kreme donuts, either, which might be one reason I think they can’t compare to Dunkin’.)

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  9. Morning all….my first thought upon opening this page “There’s a Mouse in the House”!
    I remember buying boiled salted peanuts in SC….but I don’t see them around here.
    Oh Cheryl….Krispy Kreme donuts….we would take the only dollar to our name and have a late night donut and cup of coffee when we lived in Myrtle Beach…the donuts were hot off the fryer and were 10 cents a piece…oh my word were they ever the best! 🙂

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  10. The McDonald’s in town was recently closed for several months to demolish and rebuild it. (That seems to be the way fast-food restaurants remodel these days–from the ground up. Or at least we had two in town that did so last year.) Well, they had a good breakfast business before they closed, and the nearby Burger King didn’t do nearly as much business any time of day. But people seem to have gotten used to going to BK while they were closed, and McDonald’s hasn’t gotten nearly all of its business back.

    McDonald’s is currently running a promotion of buy five drinks, get one free, as you fill a little card. Even if the drink you get is free, there is still a sticker on it toward a free drink. Well, we also got a brochure in the mail full of McDonald’s coupons, including several for buy one breakfast sandwich and get one free, and several more for buy one drink and get one free. My husband suspects the brochure was targeted to this zip code to rebuild their breakfast business, though I imagine other places around the country also have the same issue, with recently reopened locations (or recently opened).

    So this morning we went and bought one sandwich but got two, one drink but got two (and two coupons toward free ones). I did the math, and by using both promotions (the coupons plus the card you fill up with stickers), you could take twelve people and five buy one, get one free drink coupons; for the price of five drinks you can get twelve. And of course you also buy six sandwiches and get twelve. It still probably costs more to eat there for breakfast than it did 15 years ago, but it’s a pretty good deal, and a nice start to the day to sit and relax over breakfast with my husband.

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  11. I can not imagine sitting to relax over a meal at McDonald’s. I can not imagine enjoying a meal there, either. But that is just me. I don’t eat out well.

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  12. Nancy Jill, I’ve heard Krispy Kreme donuts melt in your mouth when hot, but all I’ve ever had are boxes of 12 of the same kind that someone brings to Sunday school (in my old church). And to my mind, the “fun” of donuts is the variety. The KK ones are OK, but not wonderful. I checked on their prices once, and saw they actually charged more if you wanted a mix, and I just never saw anyone bring a mix. I think I saw chocolate-covered ones once, but that was still 12 of a kind.

    When I lived in Phoenix (Dunkin’ Donuts territory, and back in the good old days when they were still focusing on quality donuts and not coffee like everyone else), people would occasionally take a dozen donuts to work. It was usually one boss or me who took them. When my boss took them, she would buy a dozen cake donuts, and the box would last the whole day. When I took them, I would go into the store and choose two each of six different kinds, with several chocolate and several cream or jelly filled, and some sprinkles. Mine would be gone by lunchtime. But never once did my boss take note and decide that she would buy a few cake donuts and a few different kinds too; she always got just the boring cake donuts. That was in the day when you could get a free calendar at the beginning of the year, and half the months would have a coupon for “buy six, get six free” or “but twelve, get six free.” Now if you get their calendar, most of the coupons focus on the coffee. I’m not a coffee drinker, and if I were, there are five dozen places I could buy coffee. But Dunkin’ Donuts is one of a very tiny number of places where you can buy good donuts . . . so why they would focus on their coffee rather than their unique product is more than I can guess.

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  13. Mumsee, I can’t stand cooking eggs (the smell) and my husband likes eggs. McDonald’s has the one egg product in a restaurant that I like (the Egg McMuffin). So it’s a way for both of us to get a semi-healthy breakfast without me having to cook eggs or wash the eggy pan. When we have good coupons and can sit and make it a date (no rush to go shopping or go back home), it’s a win-win.

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  14. Nope, I don’t think they would pay me enough to eat there. Or a whole bunch of other places. Now, I would take one for the family if they told me they would pay off the mortgage. But I don’t think I could eat a sandwich of any type there and as I have never eaten a McMuffin, I doubt I would go there, either. I might eat some french fries with mustard.

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  17. Yes, Chas, it’s Friday! Enjoy the funnies.

    I saw The Imitation Game and enjoyed it, for the most part. I like historical fiction and i really like Benedict Cumberbatch as an actor (don’t know nor do I care about his off-screen life). The only thing I did not like about the movie was the emphasis on Alan Turing being a homosexual. Yes, it was part of his life, but the movie didn’t have to make such a big deal about it. Was it to show how “backward” they thought Britain and the Western world was in the 1940s and 50s? Was it to make us feel sorry for the treatment homosexuals got when they were arrested and thrown in jail (or “gaol”, since it was in England)?

    I went with D3 and she was confused by the transition between time periods. It was easy to tell when they were showing his boyhood, but occasionally when they went from 1953 back to 1941 there was some confusion in her mind.

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  18. I don’t believe I have ever had a hot krispy kreme or dunkin donut. But I have made hot donuts and they were quite tasty so I imagine they are quite good.

    Another Q of D: Do you have regular church bells in your town? Ringing out the time of day or calling folk to church?

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  19. I should change something. The movie is not historical fiction, as Alan Turing really lived and did make an early version of a computer. But since it is not a documentary there was some fiction added.

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  20. Yum! Dunkin’ Donuts! Much beter than Krispy Kreme.

    Mumsee- we have a Lutheran church that rings it’s bells, but I think it is just on Sunday when service starts. It’s nice that it also plays a hymn after the nine chimes.

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  21. I don’t recall hearing church bells since I was in high school.
    I think people complained, and they made ordinances.
    We need to enforce the ordinances when the imams make a call to prayer.
    it will happen somewhere in America. Soon.
    I can remember when an air raid siren sounded every day at noon. When did they stop that?

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  22. I enjoy hearing the bells and the hymns. Growing up in Moscow, the U of I used to play the bells for the time and the churches did. Now, in our local town, our church (the Christian Church) plays the time and songs but our machine is broken for the past month or so. It is missed.

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  24. Your comment the other day about the call to prayer was what brought up the church bell question in my mind. I actually enjoyed the call to prayer when in Egypt. It was a reminder to pray for folk and to pray with folk. Even the early morning call.

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  25. cheryl’s 9:43 (last paragraph) sounds like those math word problems we suffered through in elementary school. 😦

    Call me low-brow, but I actually like McDonald’s, although when I go there — which is not often — it’s to use the drive-through, not to go in and eat.

    And, yes, we have church bells in our town. I live near one of our town’s large Catholic churches & near the Presby church, I think both have bells (although I’m usually off to my own church in a neighboring city when they ring on Sunday mornings, so I don’t hear them always).

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  27. I remember maybe once-a-week (?) air raids at noon when I was I was growing up.

    There were also bells on my college campus which I loved.

    We also have a military housing complex in our town and they play Taps every night at 9. It’s prompted lots of curiosity in some parts of town where it’s heard.

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  29. Yes we have church bells ringing in our town although I have moved to where I can’t hear them.

    The Devil you know is sometimes the best. Guy I Used to Worth With will once again become Guy I Work With. He is the VP of the commercial division here and I will be moving into an office with him and two other commercial agents. The company will pay half of my salary and he will pay the other half with incentives–I will receive bonuses and or part of the commissions plus I can list and sell again.
    I asked him what my title would be, he said he didn’t care make one up I can be Queen if I would like. I have always wanted to be Supreme Queen of the Universe.

    The company will continue to pay my current salary until the end of February.

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  30. I like the military raising and lowering of the flag as well. We used to pull over if in cars, get out, and stand in respect.

    It is not McDonald’s I have a problem with, it is eating out in general. I just don’t enjoy it.

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  32. Mumsee, my sister doesn’t enjoy eating out, either. She said the food is never as good as homemade, so why pay money for it? Of course, that was back when her husband was alive and she still enjoyed cooking. After he died, she said she might never enjoy cooking again. I haven’t asked her recently if she has gotten the enjoyment back. I suspect it will come back at some point, if it hasn’t already.

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  33. I know there are church bells in the metro area, but we do not hear them where we live or work.

    We enjoy the fish sandwiches and the hot fudge sundaes at McDonalds. I, too, like their Egg McMuffins. We mostly stop there when we are traveling. Their coffee is usually good and fresh. We tend to stop more routinely for chicken biscuits from Chick-fil-A if we need a quick breakfast meal.

    We do enjoy the senior meal, sit-down breakfast, at Krystal. Tastes good and price is right.

    I love Krispy Kreme for that melt in the mouth goodness of their hot doughnuts. I also love Dunkin’ Doughnuts because my dad use to do his breaks at the one across the street from the barber shop he owned (after retirement from the Navy and construction work). He would bring home boxes of the filled doughnuts and chocolate cake doughnuts so they always remind me of him. But i try to stay clear of doughnuts. Sometimes tax clients or co-workers bring them in, though.

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  35. I’m with Mumsee and Cheryl’s sister – I don’t enjoy eating out. And eating at McDonald’s seems like torture to me. I also don’t care for KK donuts (hot or not). I first read Kim’s 10:08 post to say, “they are especially good if you are having hot flashes.” 🙂

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  39. Not a big fan of McD’s, but after having two children work there, I know the quality of their food is ok. Breakfast is ok there, although I prefer other places. Still, for a fast breakfast it is a good choice.

    Our town still has a church bell that rings. Our church is on a corner with two other churches kitty corner. One takes up the whole next block. That one is Catholic and they have the bell, which sometimes rings in the middle of one of our services.

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  41. Wendy’s burgers with a Frosty are good, and you can get a child’s size Frosty to cut portion size. Also i like the Steak & Shake $3.99 Triple steak burger deal. You can make two meals from one of those. I can’t do their shakes since I am lactose intolerant. The Micky D’s sundae is made from frozen yogurt, and a small Wendy’s Frosty does not give me problems. Just don’t let me have a Steak & Shake milkshake. Not good mixed with my body chemistry.

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  42. D3 used to love McDonald’s, but after working there, while on a trip at lunch time I actually heard her say “Anywhere but McDonald’s.”

    I like BK better than McD’s because it is char broiled, not put on a flat grill to soak in it’s own grease.

    Donna- though McD’s has a “generally decent burger”, the meat is questionable as to it’s source. In-and-Out has fresh beef and natural ingredients on most of its food. I only wish there were one close to here, but the nearest one is in Texas.

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  43. The nearest town still has a couple of churches that play recordings of bells ringing, as does the United Church in the village where my family church is. The Baptist church my family attended when I was a young child still rang their bell for Sunday Service and my father used to take his turn. We left that church shortly after they decided to go contemporary, as my father found the music triggered memories of his wild years in the 60s. I remember the tense discussions between what seemed to be the old timers and the young whippersnappers, even though I was only about 7 or 8 at the time. In going contemporary and swelling the church numbers, they got too big for the old building and built an ugly new one leaving the old church empty, the bell silent, and the beautiful stain glass window behind the baptistery forgotten. It makes me feel sad every time I remember. I have been reading my parents Dorothy L. Sayers’ classic mystery, The Nine Tailors, which is set around the custom of change ringing in the Anglican churches of England. It is fascinating to see how bell ringing was once a part of the rhythm of life – the nine tailors were rung whenever a male member of the community died (it was six tailors for a woman).

    The ringing of bells was once associated as much with Christianity as the call to prayer is associated with Islam. In the very multi-cultural city where I stayed for a while, studying, they had a town clock in the downtown care which struck the hour. There was a little antique shop with a number of old-fashioned clocks on the edge of the downtown, and I was in there a couple of times at noon. It was so lovely to hear all the different chimes of the clocks blending with the deeper tones of the town clock. Like Mumsee, I didn’t always find the call to prayer annoying in the village. I estimate, with all the different little mosques, that I heard it an average of thirty-five to forty times a day. Distance softens it – it was the loudspeaker in the closest one which could be difficult to take, especially when the caller was hoarse or tone-deaf (it isn’t always the same person who calls) at five thirty in the morning (there is a call to wake people up before the first call to prayer). There was a sense of relief after the evening call during Ramadan, as people could eat and drink again. Both the bells and the call served a purpose outside of religious observance, by marking the different stages of the day.

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  44. Ugh. I cannot bring myself to eat at McDonald’s after watching the nugget video with the pink slime. I haven’t eaten anything from Burger King in 20+ years. I am just before eliminating Hardee’s (Carl’s Jr) because everything they have is too heavy.

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  45. Two of my granddaughters worked for Chick-fil;-a while in HS. Youngest worked through college also. They now go out of their way to eat at Chick-fil-a.
    I choose them when it’s convenient, but don’t drive to the other end of town for them.
    There’s only one Chick-fil-a in Hendersonville.

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  47. Well there is that and I feel about them like I do that skinny little fella on the Blue Bell Ice Cream Commercial years ago.

    I gare run tee ya if you eat enough of them there hardee’s burgers you sure ain’t gonna look like them skinny little girls.

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  48. Anyone still go to Jack in the Box? Those were standard fare in the 60s and 70s — and they’re still around — but I haven’t been there in ages.

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  50. Cheryl, this just came out and it supports what you said already.

    http://www.bpnews.net/44095/fabricated-i-did-not-go-to-heaven

    I still feel each account must be taken individually and not all lumped together. If people report their experiences I don’t think they are saying what they experienced is trumping the word of God. So many times in Scripture people are told to not be afraid. It seems some of these reported experiences serve in some manner to ease people’s fear of the unknown But this particular book was written and used to deceive so that is a shame. I am very glad that the young man seems to have now read the Bible and understands how his dad used him and all who were gullible to his deception. It is a good warning to be alert to wolves clothed as sheep.

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  52. I don’t do Hardee’s because of the commercials either. Although one of the local ones is owned by the son of a friend who doesn’t like the commercials, so he produces his own radio ads that are much cleaner.

    Donna- I like Jack-in-the-Box, and used to go there often in Arizona. But the nearest one is two hours away from here.

    Janice- I have heard a lot of good things about Five Guys, but have never seen nor been to one.

    And has anyone else noticed this thread says it is still January 22?

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  53. I have been to Five Guys once, in Savannah. All I remember is that they gave us lots of food for the money.
    For some reason, I have never been to a Jack in the Box. Elvera says I have been to a Popeyes. but I don’t recall it.

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  54. Janice, my husband and I have been to Five Guys twice, and we like it quite a bit. They’re more expensive, but hearty. And their smallest serving of fries is enough for both of us.

    Donna, I don’t think we have Jack in the Box here. We did have one (well, one near me) in Nashville, but I didn’t go there much since I preferred other places. But my sister just adored their tacos (which I find too greasy and too spicy), so we’d go there if she came to visit me.

    Hardee’s is decent. We had one very close to me in Nashville, but I almost never ate there until they had some really good coupons shortly before I moved away, and I found out that they were pretty good. But I went there twice shortly after moving into my house, and both times they messed up my order (putting onions on it, for example), and twice was enough that I stayed away for years. But once they opened up Red Burrito and also offered some Mexican foods, you had a good choice of food, and better service than fast food places (you order it at the counter and then they bring it to your table), which made it a little better place for a date than a fast-food restaurant.

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  55. I rarely eat at fast food restaurants ever since a law was passed in CA mandating the caloric count had to be included in the menu. When I look at how many calories each item has in it, my appetite disappears.

    Occasionally I go to Taco Bell and have a burrito, which still isn’t the best solution, but I haven’t eaten a hamburger in years. I used to love Big Macs–particularly while pregnant in the dark ages.

    But it’s the calorie count that was the game changer. Turned dining out into an exercise in avoiding guilt. 😦

    A milkshake at Coldstone, for example, is 2000 calories.

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  56. Popeyes has good beans and rice. I just wish their servings of it would be about twice as big. We went to a Jack’s Hamburgers place while on our way back from TX. I do not know if it is related to Jack in thr Box. I do enjoy Burger King charbroiled burgers.

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  58. Janice, I posted a couple of links last week, one of which dealt with why the whole “genre” is a problem. Among other things, it pointed out that no two of the books agree about what heaven is like! Also, the fact that in Scripture very few people are given visions of heaven (and what they were given was just visions, not their physical presence in heaven . . . I hadn’t thought about that one), and they weren’t allowed to tell us very much about it when they did go.

    The books all have additions to “what is in heaven” that doesn’t ring true at all to what Scripture records about it.

    Finally, I’m a little bothered when you say that maybe these sightings of heaven are given to help us not fear the unknown. Two things at least are troublesome there. The biggest one is simply that this means what Scripture tells us isn’t enough to keep us from fear; we need something in addition to it (whether or not that book is accurate, because we know most or all of them are not). Second, if we need something more than Scripture, what did all those other people do for the first 2000 years of post-resurrection church history or the several thousand years of human life? Did they not need the “something more” that we need?

    Once we start opening ourselves to “something more than Scripture” teaching us about God, we’re really on the same page with the Mormons and others (Catholics, etc.) who think that Scripture is good but incomplete. It’s one thing to write about a dream of heaven as fiction; it’s another thing entirely to write about it as though it really happened and people can or should form any ideas about heaven based on it.

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  59. I feel the tension between my belief that Scripture is inerrant and all sufficient, and my belief that God is active today in the world through the Holy Spirit giving help to people in the ways He knows they need help. He is our Comforter and Advocate and I would not want to put limits on what He can do. But people do have to discern if it is from the Holy Spirit in which case it would not add to or conflict with what has been given already through Scripture.
    So, Cheryl, you would be okay if the experiences were treated as dreams or visions and just not as actual happenings, if I understand what you said?

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  60. Breakpoint is running an interesting symposium on Same-Sex marriage. You can read the comments here: http://www.breakpoint.org/features-columns/articles/entry/12/26748?spMailingID=10463820&spUserID=OTQ0MjQwMjE3S0&spJobID=461995818&spReportId=NDYxOTk1ODE4S0

    Of particular interest is this comment: “The move to hyphenate the identity of Christian with “gay” is not only ill-informed, but impossible. First, because our identity in Christ—hence Christian—can never be hyphenated.”

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  61. Church bells…none here….when we lived in town, we lived at the bottom of a hill…a church was built on top of the hill….we were so excited to see a bell tower being built and couldn’t wait until Sunday morning to hear the bells…turns out they leased part of the land to a cell phone company….to build a cell tower….they made it look like a bell tower…complete with three large bells…what a disappointment!
    I still recall having a turn to ring the big bells in the tower at the Methodist church when I was a kid…and we lived just down the street…we walked to church every Sunday as we listened to the church bells…
    My favorite hamburger joint is Culvers…oh my word they have the best…and their fries are good too….don’t eat out often…but when we do…it’s Culvers for me 🙂

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  64. Culvers — yum! I’ve only been there once (last month when I was out Christmas shopping), but I would certainly love to go there again.

    Gotta say, though, that nothing compares to a home-cooked meal. It’s lasagna for us tonight. Mmmm. 🙂

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  65. Yes, 6 Arrows, home cooking is the best!

    Last night I cooked round steak with rice and lima beans with fresh strawberries for dessert. Simple but good. Tonight the remainder of the steak and rice will turn into a stir fry with brocolli, cauliflower, onions, celery, carrots, and garlic. Maybe have the rest of the strawberries or sliced apples for dessert.

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  67. Church bells — yes, I think it’s the Lutheran church in town that rings them. I hear them sometimes in the big city about a half-hour from our town, too.

    Linda, you weren’t the only one who read that as “hot flashes.” 🙂

    Peter, I noticed the 1-22-15 date on today’s daily thread, too. I was not on here yesterday at all, so when I came here today, after reading yesterday’s posts, then I went to today’s daily thread and thought, wait a second, am I on the wrong page? How did that happen?

    Take a day off, come back, and I think AJ is messing with my mind. 😉

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  68. OTOH, AJ’s had a lot on his mind, I’m sure, with his parents’ health. And I remember reading now, on yesterday’s thread, that his dad was having a procedure today.

    Hope that went OK. How is your dad doing tonight, AJ?

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  69. Janice, I have no problem with someone telling of a dream they have had and making sure you understand it’s fiction. I’d have more trouble with it being claimed to be a vision of heaven, simply because I don’t think God is going to add to our knowledge of heaven beyond what we already have until we get there. Such a vision (as a vision, not a dream) would by its very nature be for more than just the person receiving it. And God gave such visions very, very selectively. Only two of the apostles got such visions, and one wasn’t allowed to write about it and the other told he could write about some of it, but not all. I just don’t see Christ giving such visions to “ordinary citizens” today; it doesn’t ring true with the rest of Scripture, now that the canon is closed, that He would be giving new visions with new information.

    That’s different from convicting your mind, say, that your biggest problem isn’t your relationship with your husband, it’s that your rebellion toward God is being expressed in rebellion toward your husband. The Holy Spirit can apply truths of Scripture to life situations without it being new revelation. But new revelation is a dangerous path.

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  70. We have a church bells (or a recording?) in town that ring the hour. Love to hear them, but I usually only hear them when I’m outside, or when the windows are open & it’s quiet inside. I also love hearing the train whistles as they go through a portion of town not too far from us.

    As for Dunkin Donuts, they’re fine, but Lee prefers getting really good donuts from a couple different independent bakeries in the area. He says the size & quality of Dunkin’s donuts have gone down through the years.

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  71. Cheryl – The distinction we make is that the Holy Spirit brings illumination, not revelation. But some people mistakenly use the latter when they mean the former.

    I remember several years ago, on the WMB, there was an increasingly-heated discussion between two regulars where one was using “revelation” instead of “illumination”, & the other was arguing against “revelation”. As I read through the comments, I could see how they were actually in agreement, but talking past each other because of the word mix-up. So I jumped in with a quick explanation, & they were both glad to get the issue cleared up, realizing they were really on the same page after all.

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  74. Cheryl, in Acts 2:16-17 in the ESV it reads, “But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel:
    ‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams;…’ ”

    I am trying to reconcile what you said with this verse. Please remember, i am just seeking greater understanding and not looking to a have an argument.

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  79. Janice, good question, but I actually think there’s a very easy answer to that: read the context of that verse.

    “But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel:
    ‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams;…’ ”

    What is “this” in that passage? The Holy Spirit coming at Pentecost!

    (I think a lot of people get confused when “last days” is interpreted to mean “the last few days / weeks / months / years before Christ’s second coming.” But the writers of Scripture used it differently. It included all the time following Christ’s first coming. We are in the last days–but so was the day of Pentecost!

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  80. Thank you, Cheryl, for your answer. I am still confused if you mean it was only saying that the verse covers Pentecost and not after that time. What would have marked the closing of the words to apply to our current time period?

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  81. If I can jump in (cheryl will do it better when she returns, or may have better clarification), what I would say is that the so-called “sign gifts” (tongues — speaking other languages, specifically — divine healing, raising of the dead in a couple cases, etc.) were given to the church during the apostolic age as the church was being established.

    Today, we have the full canon of Scripture which is sufficient — although the Holy Spirit, of course, remains active in convicting people of sin, pointing us to Christ, bringing people to saving faith and comforting and strengthening believers in their faith.

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  84. Thanks, Donna. I almost got into some of that in my answer above, but didn’t want to answer more than the question being asked. And it’s past time for me to be in bed, so I’m glad you answered.

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