Our Daily Thread 12-20-14

Good Morning!

5 Days!!!! 🙂

Today’s header photo is from Kare.

*It’s now Sunday the 21st, so I believe someone has a birthday today.

Happy Birthday Linda. 🙂

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On this day in 1790 the first successful cotton mill in the United States began operating at Pawtucket, RI.

In 1860 South Carolina became the first state to secede from the American Union. 

In 1879 Thomas A. Edison privately demonstrated his incandescent light at Menlo Park, NJ. 

And in 1968 author John Steinbeck died at the age of 66.

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Quote of the Day

Christmas, my child, is love in action. Every time we love, every time we give, it’s Christmas.”

Dale Evans

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 This one is a request.

And this one is because I like it. From King’s College Choir

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0aL9rKJPr4&feature=player_detailpage ______________________________________________

Anyone have a QoD?

7,368 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 12-20-14

  1. I was talking about all four of you! The joy of fellow believers getting together. Sometimes a bit stressful now, but in the future, it will be all good. Though I will say, having you here was not stressful at all, you are a wonderful guest. Well, the mice maybe…

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  2. Had to go close some windows as I hear a leaf blower and didn’t want them to blow the dirt and dust into the house. They blow the church parking lot and also do the back area of this house as it is church property.

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  3. Mumsee, I just started another Stephen Bly book. If you read it aloud, you would have the whole group laughing. Talking about old cowhands around a camp fire and they are so dirty and greasy. He doesn’t mention the smells, for which I am grateful.

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  4. Kizzie, I have read at least one of them, and I think I read two or three. There’s a lot of good humor in them. The author was written up in World several years ago, he’s a believer and his books are deliberately family friendly. Hollywood took one (some?) of his books at some point and did something with them, and he was appalled because they took out the family-centered scene and replaced it with something else (I think several single cowboys including a woman all living together or something). They’re written from the dog’s point of view, and he hates the coyotes that hang out, has a crush on a pretty local collie, etc. I got them from the library several years back (probably 9 or 10 years ago) and the details elude me, but the humor and a bunch of the “scene” elements still stick with me.

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  5. I think that I just got all of my medical forms emailed off to PNG. Just need to make a dental appointment and one other and should be good to go. Oh, also need some more support, but that is God’s job.

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  6. okay, life just got busier. someone is coming to stay with me from Wednesdy through Monday. There will be two daytime bible studies and one evening study. Maybe a family dinner. Time to clean the house. Oh, and I said I would bring cookies to a funeral next Saturday. Can’t remember the lst time I made cookies.

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  7. I made cookies last night. The other night I baked something, and my husband expressed that he had thought I mighe be making cookies. He didn’t specifically say he wanted any, but I read between the lines. I didn’t want to use the last of the eggs, so I waited to make them until we could go to the store, and then I made them last night.

    After eating a few, my husband asked about whether I was on the list. I didn’t know what he was talking about, but finally he communicated that he was asking whether I had signed up to take cookies to church, and was that why I made them? (Often I make a double batch and take the best ones to church.) I told him no and he said (with feeling) “Good!” So apparently it meant something to him that I simply made them for us.

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  8. My friend helped me realize that I don’t have to stay in the same bible study group. What a relief. I already know them and need to meet or get to know some others. They expect me to be in their group, but it is time to move on. The leader said to just tell them that she moved me. But I already told one of them that I wanted to get to know some new gals.

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  9. Feeling less overwhelmed, especially since Hubby will be coming home, not going to a rehab facility. Thank you so much for the prayers & encouragement.

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  10. Mumsee, may your birthday be sweet and full of encouragement. You are doing a great work in your little corner of the world. you are everything, especially for your two youngest.
    I feel that we are kindred spirits. What a sense of humor our God has given you. Thanks for blessing all of us on the blog.

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  11. I had a wonderful birthday, thank you. I heard from a lot of the children and husband was very kind. And I bought myself the smallest possible nutella. I love nutella. I never buy it, for good reason. But I have not yet overindulged and that is good.

    How are you eating now, Jo, with your health concerns? I am back to exercising so my blood pressure is back to a good range. Hopefully will be able to stick with it throughout the winter since I am not watering, mowing and chasing down branches for goats. a lot more time available.

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  12. Just watched Archie alone for a couple of hours here. We went outside and then to my van. He had such fun climbing all around the van. Not sure what buttons he pushed, so it should be interesting next time I drive it. Time for a nap.

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  13. I harvested some of my teeny tiny peppers the other day. I am having one for breakfast. They are about eighteen times as hot as the jalapenos I harvested, which are hot. I like them, teeny tiny nibbles of course.

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  14. Well, husband is off to Los Angeles again. They had the team start early because there was a rush Amazon load but by the time they got to Spokane, that was canceled. Odd how this company runs, but it is a fast paced business with lots of competition.

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  15. Does Mike enjoy the driving, Mumsee? I think you’ve said that he does. Hubby also likes to drive, & at one time thought of training to drive a tractor trailer.

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  16. He does enjoy the driving and I do enjoy the home staying. It works.

    I could see Jo driving across the parking lot to church, but that is because I have children who would do that and do in our small town.

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  17. I picked two very friendly gals and had them over for lunch today. I wasn’t ready, but I knew it wouldn’t matter with them. We had a simple lunch of sandwiches, everyone made their own, and I even shared my precious stash of chocolate.

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  18. I got my new prayer cards. They look great. and my friend brought them to the funeral on Saturday, I didn’t even know what the package was. I found some folks there to give them to and to reconnect as they have my email address on them.
    of course, the best part is the grands on the back.

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  19. I was so tired today at BSF, I decided it was too much to have someone over today. And then I saw a friend and supporter sitting in the same row and thought, I could have just her over, so I did. It was a very precious visit. She didn’t want lunch so we just had tea.

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  20. My friend has now gone back to her home. What a precious week we had. I am continuing to pray for her as she cares for her elderly parents, 97 and 93. I am urging her to take a time of rest for herself after they move them to Portland, near a brother and sister. She is doing everything for them.

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  21. It is good she is able to do that. My parents are quite resistant to help. They do have daughter living with them, which, though it is good in many ways, is a cause of concern to me. Daughter is not an honest person. I don’t think she would take advantage of them intentionally, but I think she has done so in the past and blamed her “friends”. We watch.

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  22. One of the deacons stopped by yesterday to take some measurements for the work they are doing here on Saturday. I just casually asked if he knew how to change the furnace to heat from cool. He had it done in a jiffy. So glad that God sent him by as it got down to 45 last night. With the new windows the heater only came on for a very short time.

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  23. Slept in today. I am doing Tuesday morning church Bible study, Tuesday evening couples Bible study taught by one of our pastors, Wednesday morning BSF, and Wednesday evening our pastor teaches a class at church. All are very good and it keeps me busy. For three of the four, I just walk across the parking lot, so, Mumsee, it is like I am staying home. Lots of homework, too.

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  24. Had Archie for a couple of hours today. He was fussy at the end, but the rest was lots of fun. I took him up in back of the church where the office is. Then we walked around the other side, with me following him. Some teachers were meeting and there was a young boy playing, so we went inside the church and then came out into the fenced playground. Such a privilege to play with this three year old. He is the one that was in lots of news articles and even on tv as he got sick from swimming in a lake. He is doing fine now and Archie had fun playing with him. I didn’t tell him that he was an answer to my prayers. And his dad is the police officer that came to help when I arrived home several years ago to a home that had been broken into.

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  25. I have been out grading the driveway. Never did that before. Trying to make it so it is not a frozen ice sheet in the winter. There is still a big hole that I need to rake gravel into. Or better, have children rake gravel into.

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  26. With all that you are doing, Jo, I hope you are also getting some nice rest, relaxation, & refreshing. It does sound like you are enjoying yourself.

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  27. I suspect part of the rest and refreshment is fellowship.

    Nope, I used my ZTrac and the railroad device Gerry built for dirt bike tracks. It has teeth that dig into the gravel to loosen it up and refresh the surface, kind of like the big grader does out on the road.

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  28. Enjoy your reunion, Jo. I’ve never been to one. Of course, that can be because I graduated from high school in Wisconsin & now live in Connecticut. That would be a bit of a trip, to say the least.

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  29. No, no, no, the Ztrac does the work. That is a riding lawn mower of sorts.

    I went to the reunion a couple of years ago. It was interesting. Husband still can’t get over the fact that I did not recognize the most popular girl in school even though she came up to me and gushed about our tennis days. I remember the tennis days, I just don’t remember her being a part of it. Oh well.

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  30. One gal and maybe two said she was in the same dorm with me as a freshman in college. I do not remember that at all. Then she mentioned that the first candle lighting she had ever gone to was mine. That is when you sing a song as you all stand in a circle and pass a candle around. This is a way to announce your engagement. So she wanted to know if I was still happily married to that guy. No, he left me, actually two weeks before the wedding, which I didn’t say. Hadn’t thought of that ceremony in a very long time.

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  31. Yet, that was the memory that they associated with me. It will be tough to get in touch with very many of them. The program gave our names from high school. Even the name tags had our high school name and the picture from the year book. No one will find me using that name.

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  32. I was able to chat with a few folk I knew and remembered and they remembered me. We have not been in touch since. People move along. I do have one friend from school, from grade school on, that I keep in touch with. She kind of kept me grounded all these years, knowing that somebody cared whether I came or went has helped and to care about somebody else, even though we generally only make contact once a year through email. Lately we have been emailing more though.

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  33. I just looked again and I was wrong, my last name is in the booklet.
    I prayed on Saturday evening as I drove home for my son in law, who also had a reunion the same evening. I knew my daughter wasn’t going. Yesterday, I found out that he went with my pastor!! What an answer to prayer. And they came home early, like 8pm. God is doing a work.

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  34. Mumsee, I told my son that if he needed help, I would drive/ride with him from Aberdeen to Portland. His in laws are moving to live with them. Not sure your place would be on the way, especially since we will have some type of a large moving van.

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  35. No, it is in South Dakota. The email today said the other person wasn’t going and he would like me to come. The catch, a dog will be part of the group. I am not sure that I can handle riding for at least three days in the cab of a large truck with a dog.

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  36. Yes, Kizzie, I am enjoying the house. Much warmer than before. I am even entertaining. Still giving away bilums to my supporters. I had extra food left from yesterdays luncheon so wandered around the church to see who I should invite. It was BSF today, but I ended up inviting some gals who were working organizing the yard sale. Fun to just wander and see who God would have me invite.

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  37. That sounds nice.

    Even though Nightingale & I live in the same house (her upstairs, me downstairs), & see each other every day, it is still nice when we occasionally do something together. That doesn’t happen too often, with her busy schedule, but it is sweet when it does.

    I wish Chickadee & I could do something special together sometimes. I should plan for something for us to do next time she has to stay over.

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  38. Yes, I am finding that I need to do more planning. It is easy to have food here for me, but more family is dropping by and I need to have things available.
    Even this weekend. I had to think of ways to make it special for my two grands. The idea to look for and purchase badminton birdies and racquets went well. jack and I enjoyed playing together

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  39. Son’s new puppy (daughter’s old one) has now chewed through four chargers and one bose headset. One of these days either son or puppy will learn something.

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  40. Karen, I feel this is our private page together. I am grieving with you, dear sister. Hang on to that smile that Leon shared with you. Oh, how you will and do miss him. So thankful for your daughters and grandson there with you.

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  41. It will continue to come in waves, as you know, Karen, but they will begin to slow and you will be left with those great memories. I too think of his smile you shared.

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  42. What a day. A gal in my church gave me a gift that brought me to tears. I had wanted to get an Amish wall hanging to take back with me. I didn’t see any stores as I traveled so I tried the internet. I called and emailed about one, but got no response. My friend told me this gal was quite the quilter, so I asked her if she had anything. Today she gave me a beautiful log cabin quilted wall hanging. All hand stitched. Each a stitch of love. With even a tag with a personal inscription on the back. I feel so cared for.
    Oh, Karen, may you feel our love in the same way.

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  43. The waves are not crashing as intensely as they did on the first & second days, but they do come. There is still a feeling of disbelief – that this just can’t or shouldn’t be happening. He had, & we had, so much more to do.

    Of course, I realize that in God’s plan, Hubby’s work was finished. Now it is up to me to carry on & pray for our beloved daughters & grandson, love on them, & serve them the best I can. My main motivation in that, besides the natural love I have for them, is to please the Lord, but right behind that is to please my husband.

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  44. what a change in all of your lives. I imagine there will be some anger too. Might see that in your grandson, as Lee was his beloved grandfather. So many changes in your life. Leon even did most of the shopping. How will you get around? I thought of a golf cart, but realized that you get very cold winters.

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  45. No, a golf cart would not work in our area, for other reasons as well as the cold. But Nightingale has become the “designated driver” now, & had already taken over doing the shopping for me as well as for herself. Most of what she gets now will be for “us”.

    I suggested to her that we do what Hubby & I used to do. We would piggyback our appointments rather than have him go to his own & mine at another time. We would have back-to-back appointments at the dentist, at the eye doctor, & getting our hair cut.

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  46. As I recall from my mom passing away, the waves do spread out but can continue for some months. And the thoughts of what we could have done differently and how we are going to save them from death. Our very being fights against death, hence the Life that is in us for eternity. But we want the here and now. It takes time.

    Sounds like a good plan with daughter. Perhaps you could work out something with those in church as well, so it does not all fall on daughter. Though I am sure she is glad to be available, things can change.

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  47. Well, look what’s still going. Glad you ladies are enjoying this almost three-year-old thread. And I see a couple of you have joined the Pigskin thread this week.

    Kizzie- Keep trusting the Lord. We have a young friend whose husband had a series of strokes last year this week, and died October 28. He was only 27. The young widow was pregnant with their 2nd child and had her in January. She also has a 4 year old son. Pray for her, as she is still grieving terribly. A pastor friend is in constant contact with her and she is doing better.

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  48. Death is such a hard thing. Not necessarily on the person doing the dying but on those left behind. I will pray with you for this young woman and her children. May God continue to bring those who can love her around and give her peace as she grieves.

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  49. Kizzie, as you weep it might be good to keep a journal of the good times. As you remember special, or funny, moments, write them down to have the good stories to share with the boy. He had such a sense of humor and that obituary was a classic. So glad to see what you put in there.

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  50. We have been talking about those good times, & Hubby’s funny quirks or remarks. Even the things that once annoyed us now seem funny. Nightingale has already started writing those down on a pad of paper, & Chickadee added to it.

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  51. Yes, but she is still out there. She had a few, shall we say “incidents”, but overall, stayed in her room and we all had a relatively quiet day. Thanks for praying.

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  52. He is. Yesterday she sat in the chair next to me moaning that she wanted to be a Catholic so she could be perfect. And that she wanted to be famous. For about eight straight hours. I knew if I sent her to her room or outside, she would not go. So I just talked with her some and ignored her some and prayed for her a lot. I did not stay sitting all day, that would have driven me crazy too.

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  53. Another beautiful rainy day here. Daughter was in the car with us, heading to our eye appt in Kamiah, and continuing her same vein. She started moaning that she wished she was free. So, husband pulled over and told her she was free to go. She got over her stunned look and got out. She said she would go to town. We let her, knowing it was an eight mile walk in plus the five back to the house but it was likely somebody would give her a lift.

    We enjoyed a peaceful time at the eye doctor’s. I had been dreading listening to her entice the younger two into unpleasant activity. So with her out walking, they stayed calm. The appts took much longer than anticipated so we got back just after six in the evening. Daughter was not home but just then the phone rang. She had been at my friend’s house in Nezperce. Friend had given her a ham and cheese sandwich and offered her a ride but apparently daughter had promised some guy named Bill that she would meet him at six and he would give her a ride home. Daughter arrived home about twenty minutes later. So, whoever Bill was, we are grateful. Apparently he gave her a ride to town. She went to the Catholic Church and wandered town for a bit, then to friend’s house. Challenges? Yes.

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  54. I saw that Kizzie did a like on a comment yesterday, so she was checking in. Kizzie, I trust that all is well, but can imagine how frustrating all the paperwork must be, and to add the grief on to that ! Some things just take time.

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  55. Jo, I am taking things a little bit at a time. Nightingale has been a huge comfort & help to me. Chickadee does what she can when she is here.

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  56. I found that spot on my bedroom couch, under the window. Unfortunately, daughter kept coming over and poking her head in my window after bedtime last night, demanding things. I ignored her. She eventually stopped. That is my new strategy, ignore her when she is doing this. She came up to me after husband and the small folk left for the football game and concert, and kept trying to say belittling things to me. I picked up my book and ignored her. She sang (her version of singing) hymns over by her desk, loudly, for about an hour. I just read my book. She started doing her homework from school.

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  57. Stand firm and endure, Mumsee. I am remembering those verses in James chapter 1. Consider it ll joy when…. and let endurance have its perfect result that you may be perfect and complete.

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  58. I remember my son arguing with me when he was a teen. I answered him and stood firm, but he wouldn’t stop arguing. I had no more answers, I had said my piece. He kept arguing. Finally I stood up and picked up my book and walked into my bathroom and locked the door. Sat down and read my book. He was angry, but the argument was over and he eventually went away. No fun arguing with a locked door.

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  59. I did read out loud. She would walk off but as soon as I stopped she would be back. Eventually she just got to where she would talk just a little louder than I was reading and a little closer and a little closer. We checked her into the hospital last night.

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  60. In fact, I read out loud so much that the smaller ones asked me to read them the story because they found it very interesting. Oliver Twist, Charles Dickens. Unfortunately, as I was reading it out loud, I realized it was going to give her more fuel for her fire. Now I will hear how I lock her in the under kitchen with only a slice of stale bread and make her sleep next to the coffins.

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  61. Current plan is to keep her in Cottonwood (we visit twice a day for a couple hours each) until a bed becomes available. If she is in Boise, we will visit a couple of times, but we have two daughters, a son, an aunt, an uncle and his family all around to visit her. And if up north, another daughter and my brother and his family. She is fine with it.

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  62. so glad that there are others to help shoulder the burden in those places. God is good. May your home be more peaceful as I know the two youngest love you so much and strive to please. Of course there is still another…..

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  63. She will be in the hospital until a bed becomes available and it is very difficult to get a child in as we only have the two facilities. Once there, the average stay is one month. Hopefully, Texas will pay for this as agreed.

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  64. Jo – It turns out that I am not eligible for his SS until I turn 60. I should have realized that sooner.

    But. . .a friend had almost off-handedly mentioned checking into survivors benefits from the VA. (I would not have thought of that myself.) I found that they have a needs-based program, for the survivors of veterans who served at least one day during wartime, even if they were not stationed in the war. Hubby’s service overlapped the Vietnam War by two years.

    I sent the application in the other day. Now to wait & see what happens.

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  65. The reference to two years in my earlier comment was about Hubby’s military service overlapping the Vietnam War by two years. He went in in June, 1973, & the war officially ended in 1975.

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  66. The Boy expresses his sadness in different ways, such as saying that Heidi misses Papa. The other day he said sadly that Papa never got to see him in one of his football games. Hubby had really been looking forward to that, as well as seeing him advance in Boy Scouts (he’d been one for a while when he was a boy). He does sometimes say that he misses Papa.

    But being a little boy, he doesn’t seem to dwell on Hubby’s death. That’s good, as long as he keeps allowing himself to admit he misses him.

    As much as I miss Hubby for myself, I miss him even more for The Boy. His not being here for The Boy, & his missing seeing his precious grandson grow up, is what really hurts my heart the most.

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  67. Yup. I think I am grieving well. I don’t ignore or stuff down my feelings, but I try not to wallow in them, either. Writing about my feelings & grief, & having an on-going talk with God about it all, certainly help to process my grief. And the many prayers being offered for me certainly have much to do with it, too.

    This reminds me that I just wrote about this to a dear friend. I will copy & paste what I wrote to her on the daily thread.

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  68. I got an email yesterday about a concert someone had invited me to, 15 minutes before I was to be there. They had never given me more info, so I had totally forgotten. Beautiful voices, group from England. Then I wisely missed the last number and got out of the parking lot and home as I realized that I was getting ill. Took a few hours.
    Then I realized that I have something this evening and I had invited a whole group of ladies for lunch after Bible study tomorrow. So figured I’d better do some preparing.
    This was a free day for me, what happened??

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  69. It does not seem to matter how hard one works to have a free day, something happens. Husband is suffering from that. He and the sidekick are off to Boise this morning. He has his infusion tomorrow and then will probably wait there to see if daughter is going to be released and needing to be picked up and brought back up here.

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  70. Jo, 11:22 — awww. 😉 You are so kind. What a pleasure our meet-up was to me! You are so welcoming, friendly and warmhearted; beautiful inside and out.

    I’ve thought often of our get-together, and about when to reveal it on the blog. I considered waiting for the end of the year and announcing it then, as part of a year-in-review post.

    But the end of the year is going to be busy, and last night I decided I’d waited long enough. Since Monday mornings seem like a good time to spread some cheer, today was the day to share. 🙂

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  71. Good to see this secret room is still going. Kizzie, Mumsee, Jo, everyone who comes to this room — prayers as you walk your various paths. God be with you all and bless you.

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  72. Kizzie, I have just a glimmer of what you are going through. I had to learn how to be a single. I already handled the bill paying, so that was easy. But, I was a stay at home mom and now I needed to find a job after 20 years at home. and the finances were pretty uncertain. I know it is hard, but I am praising Him for the good memories that you have.

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  73. Jo, my sister has said several times that as hard as her situation was (and losing a spouse young and unexpectedly when you have five children at home is indeed very hard), it’s nothing compared to losing a spouse to divorce. Her husband did not desert her; he had no choice in the matter. Losing a spouse to divorce or suicide has to be the worst, followed by Alzheimer’s. But losing a spouse, period, is a very hard loss, and one I already dread.

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  74. It is not the way it was designed. But God uses the evil and brings out good. Some say that children feel abandoned by the parent whether it is through divorce or death or whatever. I am not sure it is the same but have not experienced any of that as a child. I never, as an adult, thought my mom deliberately left us.

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  75. October 25. Tonight our house has its third showing in three days (three weekdays in a row), and it’s likely to be a “second showing” from someone who already saw it. (This is our seventh showing in the less than two weeks it has been listed.) There is very little out there truly comparable–most people who have homes in the country are holding onto them, and we have a full two bathrooms and few of the listed homes do–so we expect and hope it to sell soon. But it took a lot longer to prepare it for sale than we expected, largely because of things outside our control like waiting for our grown children to get their belongings out of the house, and so we got a late start. But we’d really like to be moved before winter, and that does mean selling soon. (I haven’t mentioned on the other pages of this site just where we are in process in the move, like whether or not we have actually listed the house.)

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  76. We have thought of selling but who would want a seven bedroom, four bathroom, firewood only house?

    Abandonment, yes, children of divorce tend to feel abandoned. And one might say, rightfully so. We are told that children attach to the parents in the womb so even giving up a one day old is abandonment to the child. I agree. And we have tried helping our children come to terms with their abandonments. It is hard. But once they grasp death a bit, seems they would get that it is not in our control. But it would still be dreadfully difficult.

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  77. Kizzie, I am remembering that when I went through all of the turmoil of my husband leaving, I still read my Bible. But, for quite a long time, I only read the psalms. I just needed the tenderness and the raw emotions of the psalms. It speaks so much to how our Father God does not leave us or forsake us. Just something to consider.

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  78. Indeed He is.

    And here we are at 4800. I see we opened this page nearly two months ago, and I realize now that your beloved hubby was still with you at that time, Kizzie. The realization and poignancy of it all brings tears to my eyes.

    With you in solemn prayer {{{Kizzie}}}. May the Lord open new doors of hope, where the comfort and peace of Jesus envelops you on your journey.

    Love and blessings.

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  79. Good morning. I need to go move firewood as somebody is coming over to borrow our log splitter. It is my exercise program this time of year.

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