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Our Daily Thread 12-20-14

Good Morning!

5 Days!!!! 🙂

Today’s header photo is from Kare.

*It’s now Sunday the 21st, so I believe someone has a birthday today.

Happy Birthday Linda. 🙂

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On this day in 1790 the first successful cotton mill in the United States began operating at Pawtucket, RI.

In 1860 South Carolina became the first state to secede from the American Union. 

In 1879 Thomas A. Edison privately demonstrated his incandescent light at Menlo Park, NJ. 

And in 1968 author John Steinbeck died at the age of 66.

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Quote of the Day

“Christmas, my child, is love in action. Every time we love, every time we give, it’s Christmas.”

Dale Evans

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 This one is a request.

And this one is because I like it. From King’s College Choir

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0aL9rKJPr4&feature=player_detailpage ______________________________________________

Anyone have a QoD?

7,368 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 12-20-14”

  1. Jo – I have probably mentioned this before. Former WMB regular (& currently my Facebook friend) Kyle A is an English teacher at a school in Wamena, Indonesia, & is with MAF.

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  7. We’re probably all used to the internet by now, but I still think it’s amazing that people in various places of the world can have a casual little chat on sites like this.

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  22. I asked Nightingale if it could have been written tongue-in-cheek. She said, based on other things the lady has written, that no, it was probably serious.

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  24. There was a man in our former church who once told me about how humble he was. I had to bite my tongue not to laugh.

    He was a nice man, & he seemed to genuinely love the Lord, but he also seemed to have a need to be important to the church. Of course, we are all important to our churches, but he seemed to want responsibility & recognition.

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  25. One week till Christmas! Have you finished all your Christmas shopping?

    I have–maybe–but our older daughter just gave their list to their dad yesterday, so we have to get more tomorrow. (We’d already bought a few things.) I’d like to get something more for my husband, beyond what is on his list, but I’m not sure what I can buy hm that he doesn’t buy for himself or that the girls won’t buy for him. (I did buy one thing, but it was something he keeps on hand anyway, so it felt more like restocking his store than a gift.)

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  26. Cheryl – My husband is the same way. When he needs something, he gets it himself. And he is kind of picky about picking out things for himself. For a couple Christmases, my gift to him was brownies with nuts. (He enjoys them with nuts, but I usually make them without nuts.)

    A few months ago, Hubby & I saw the movie Beyond the Sea, a movie about Bobby Darin, starring Kevin Spacey (who did his own singing). We enjoyed the music (Darin was an under-rated talent), which gave me the idea of getting Hubby the soundtrack of the movie for Christmas. But then I thought, how about a CD of Bobby Darin’s hits, by Bobby Darin himself?

    So Nightingale has ordered that through Amazon, for me to give to him this year.

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  28. Kizzie, we make lists for each other (something my family didn’t do growing up–we never even expressed “I’d like one of those for Christmas”–maybe it had been stated at some point that that was a way to ensure not getting it, I don’t know). Thing is, we then buy extra items besides what is on the other person’s list. Last year, for instance, for my husband I bought two out of a series of three books about Indiana artists. He liked them well enough that he asked for the third in the series this year, so it was obviously a good choice. I can’t really buy him videos, since he is the expert on which edition to buy of something, and what is a good price.

    But he said not to spend much this year, so maybe abiding by that is the “gift.”

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  29. I wish Hubby would express what he wants, in a list or otherwise, but he would rather buy the item himself. So I am always happy when I stumble across an idea for him that I know he will like.

    We don’t buy much for Christmas at all. This year, we got a bunch of different athletic balls (& an over-the-door basketball hoop) for Little Guy, a pair of LLBean slippers for Nightingale (which she had asked for, & supplied all the pertinent info for, such as style & color), & Chickadee asked for wool socks (the kind Hubby has bought from Costco for a few years for himself), which we will fill with some money to make up the difference between her socks & Nightingale’s expensive slippers. We will add some candies of some sort for each daughter.

    Nightingale’s gifts to us will be filling our stockings.

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  32. I am getting pretty good at this city driving on the wrong side of the road. The speed limit is mostly 60 kph. Which translates to 36 mph. A nice speed when you are concentrating. and watching all of this Christmas traffic.

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  33. So I have been driving this one gal all over and she returns to Uka and her family tomorrow. I just took over the things she bought today so she could pack them up. Since she is leaving she had to get rid of extra food. I was forced, forced I tell you to take two Magnum almond ice cream bars. The sacrifices I make.

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  34. Thinking of going online and buying some gifts for my grands. I don’t want them to think that I forgot them. It is so hard to know what to get when I am so far away. Four of the girls have very generous grandparents on the other side. I messaged the mom with a few questions. Like how about a pass to an indoor pool for the winter?

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  36. Husband surprised me by walking in the door yesterday, not expected for two more days. And then when I went out to help offload the truck, there were three more sons home for the holidays! I was not expecting any of them and now hear that one more is planning to come up and possibly another daughter. I thought they were still in that awkward age of growing up.

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  41. I am determined to go out walking today.
    The last two days I kept getting calls to give someone a ride somewhere. The one gal has had knee replacement, so I told her to just call and I would come.

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  42. This evening I am picking up another teacher from my school and her husband. I am hoping they might want to do a few things together. Since I have the car we can drive up the coast to Port Douglas or drive up to the Tablelands. I don’t mind shopping alone, but adventures are more fun with someone else.

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  43. Mumsee, I think it is great that your husband didn’t even tell you that the other boys were with him. He just let the surprise continue. And you didn’t have to worry about preparing ahead of time and getting rooms ready.

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  49. Oh, I guess I missed the anniversary, huh? Well, with two family birthdays (one today) and Christmas this week, it kinda feels like enough to keep track of!

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  51. I got up with the plan of cleaning out the stove this morning. But when I reached out to the deck to get the ash bucket, it sounded like one of the goats was kidding. So I went out to check, she wasn’t, but since I was out there, decided to go ahead and do the chores. One thing leads to another….

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  60. Good morning.

    Looking out the window, I can see reflections everywhere in the snow. That isn’t a good sign. (Not shadows, reflections, meaning a layer of ice.) We had ice on the weekend, but yesterday the snow looked wet on top, and sure enough, more things are reflecting today than were yesterday, so more of it is icy.

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  61. Yeah, Jo, but they’ve talked about us on the main daily thread. Someone was asking directions. 🙂

    Well, we’re not selfish. We’ll share our secret rooms with others.

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  68. I did go online and get things for two of my children and their families and I told Becky that I had something for Archie.
    hmmm…. that leaves nothing for the other family.
    But, I did email the kids last night and challenged them to think of what the lorikeets were saying last night.

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  73. Hi Jo. How are things going? I have been praying for you today as I can still remember having holidays overseas. Of course, I had family with me so it is not the same. But I do recall how it is to be in a place of different traditions and trying to get my mind onto what was normal. And missing other times. Praying that you will see God today and over the coming weeks.

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  78. Missing my family, of course. Hard to be away from them, but it is also hard to be together as I don’t really have ahome. Next Christmas I will be in the church missions house and will have room for any visitors. We will see.

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  82. Lonely here and missing my family.
    Our church purchased an older home next door. So I just walk across the church parking lot to attend church. It is a 1930’s home, I believe. Lots of room, but only one bathroom.

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  83. My friend needs a ride downtown to get a massage. She is having trouble with massive leg cramps. She is the one that had knee replacement surgery. So I will walk while she gets her massage.
    I think that I may also stop at the exercise stations. Too much time on the couch for me.

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  85. Along the waterfront/mud flats there is a path and a park. At various places they have equipment where you can do pullups, situps, etc. Also a lovely children’s playground or several and a skateboard park. Oh, also volleyball courts and lots of places to barbecue. I am really enjoying it as there are so many people around that it feels really safe. There has been a long twilight time, so I have been out as late as 7pm.

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  88. The gal whose knee is recovering keeps calling and asking me my plans. I have not been making them that far ahead. I think I will drive up to the tablelands today. She wanted me to take her to the doctors office to deliver cards to the staff. Not a priority.
    Have to say no at some point.

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  89. Another young gal from Ukarumpa has been here with her parents. They leave today, so I think that I will ask her if she wants to go along on the drive. There is a lovely woodworking shop up there where I always stop.

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  98. Found out, after we got there, that yesterday was a national holiday. Since Christmas was on a Sunday, they got Monday as boxing day and then yesterday too. I just asked and the same thing will happen next week before I leave on Wednesday. I’d better get my shopping done now.

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  100. Our Christmas decorations were entirely child made this year. We set up the fake tree we got in Italy and they made teeny tine snowflakes to hang, and tiny candy canes, and little clay ornaments. Ten year old finger crocheted a pretty tiny garland to wrap around the tree. It was quite lovely, to me.

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  101. I decorated the tree in my classroom, but nothing in my home. Then the children took home all of the decorations that they had made so we were done.
    I am longing for a few special ornaments that are packed away. Maybe in 5 years I will see them again.

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  103. Blessed at Christmas with a conversation with two of my daughters at once. They asked me how school was going and what my plans were and listened very intently. There were no objections to my new retirement plans, though I wondered how they felt.

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  104. It is difficult being so far from family, but then what does God want you doing? That is the best place to be. Sometimes I think having these other eleven children has stopped us from having a relationship with the bio four but what if we had not done it? We would be hanging around in their way and these children might well be further down the paths they had begun going down. Always glad we did it and don’t really think our other relationships were hurt by the decision.

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  106. I was going to retire a year to a year and a half earlier. But I kept thinking that that was too soon and that I could come back. So I decided to stay longer.
    I am also thinking of doing Barton tutoring after I retire. I will probably tutor one student this next term in the afternoon.

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  107. Sounds like you have a plan. Now we wait to see if God’s is the same.

    Daughter and son in law and granddaughter braved the snow and ice. They got here shortly after son told us the new sheriffs daughter was in a head on collision and helicoptered to a city three hours north of here. And another collision just beyond that one. Treacherous roads.

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  108. Hi, secret room people. Nice to see you have kept it going. I’ve not commented here since 2015, so thought I would sneak in one for 2016 before the year is out. 🙂

    Happy 2017 to you all!

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  110. I stayed up too late reading a book.
    I did 7 miles yesterday. Went walking for two hours along the esplanade as so many folks waited for the fireworks.
    I would have liked to have seen them, but decided to come home. I was alone and knew that the traffic would be awful afterwards.
    Driving on the wrong side, at night, in a traffic jam, with folks walking everywhere. Seemed like a wise idea to just come home.

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  111. Yep. Driving in adverse conditions is not worth it to me.

    The expected snow did not arrive overnight but is still expected. Not much but a little more. I like snow. I like not needing to go driving in it but being able to go out and do some chores and enjoy it.

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  112. It is hot here, very hot. Not even worth it to go out. Thunderstorms expected. But these are not like California thunderstorms that cool it off, no, they are like hot and humid Texas storms. Yuck. Even the malls are closed so no walking there.

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  113. Just took friends to the airport. There was no more room for them here so they have two nights in Port Moresby. Our rooms here are much nicer than what they will have in Moresby.

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  116. Another beautiful day in the neighborhood, but fifteen year old daughter continues to act out. They were none too happy to have baby granddaughter taking my attention.

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  117. my friend who had the knee replacement just called from the doctors office and instead of returning tomorrow, she will be going into the hospital. I will drive her down once she gets back.

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  119. My back took over. I don’t know what I did but it is waiting to make me unmoveable. After the chores and fixing breakfast, heating pad….

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  120. Praying your back will heal quickly, Mumsee.

    I was reading about heating pads recently, & read that back pain is about the only thing heat should be used for (ice is recommended for other aches & pains, or using ice & heat alternately). It said that the warmth relaxes us psychologically, but there is also a neurological effect, too. When I used a heating pad for my back/hip, I did feel myself relaxing as the heat warmed up my back.

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  121. Kizzie, when I was younger I knew women who found relief from menstrual cramps with heating pads. I don’t know if it really “helped” or not, but I cannot imagine ice being helpful in that situation (but I may not be able to “imagine” simply because I find warmth pleasant, but not coolness).

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  124. Hi Jo, I did that when living in foreign lands. Though some of them had amazingly good chocolate, other things were tough to find so I would pack what was normal for me to enjoy.

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  125. Time to begin unpacking here. The chocolate and cheese are all in the fridge.
    Mumsee, use advil or something for the inflammation. I need to take more this morning. I find that, usually, the real problem shows up a week later, if I haven’t taken care of it right away.

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  126. Mine is significantly worse today but only when I am standing or sitting or lying down or walking or ….. I have taken Aleve and ibuprofen and aspirin and acetaminophen. A slight improvement. I suspect the biggest thing would be to get some of the excess weight off from the holiday season. Kind of ironically amusing that eldest son at home is suffering from the same only he has had it for three months. He does not stop and rest it.

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  127. Praying for you. I learned that when they gave me panadol, I think, that took care of the pain, but the doctor told me that I needed to keep taking the advil to deal with inflammation. Surprised me.

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  128. The temps are going up here. We may even get some rain in the coming days. Not my favorite this time of year as it makes for icy conditions. But fairly normal so fine.

    Are you settling back into routine once again?

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  129. One of the lousy things about staying home from work is having to go all the way downstairs to throw more wood in the furnace and then going back upstairs. On the other hand I had the living room toasty warm 🙂

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  134. Kare, think of it as working to prevent a heart attack or stroke. Though I am doing a lot of, “Ten year old, put a piece of wood on the fire” myself these days.

    I like cooking over a wood fire, though I am not sure I would want to always do it or even regularly do it. Even if I had a wood cook stove.

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  136. Another day and the back is slowly improving as it continues to get lots of rest. Still amazes me that I can lift a bale and not a flake.

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  137. Glad your back is improving, Mumsee.

    It is interesting how our muscles work. There were things I could do fine, but if I did those same things at a slightly different angle. . .Ouch!

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  138. My back has been hurting today. I realized it is a week since I hurt it and that is usually when problems show up. However I am hoping that I am alright as I have been taking advil all week to deal with it.

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  140. Good morning all. Much warmer around here. I guess if it is thirty degrees warmer outside, the temps inside will increase as well. Up in the fifties in my room this morning. Much more pleasant.

    Yes, back issues seem for me to be a lot about angles. My dad taught me some back exercises he has done for forty years and I used to do them and it helped a lot. He has never had back surgery. My two brothers don’t do the exercises (or didn’t) and they have both had back surgery. Guess I will get back to doing them. It is worth it.

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  141. It has to be aggravating to try to work from administrator’s perspective or from teacher’s perspective and not view it as a cooperative. Both are supposed to have the interests of educating the children in mind. Seems it would be straightforward. But then you get humans involved and it is not. Praying with you, Jo.

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  142. Thanks, Mumsee. Another teacher friend called and we had a long talk about the meeting, and that always helps. She was very frustrated. And depressed.
    Folks are human and forget to value others and include them.
    I heard the principal even forgot that we had a meeting.

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  145. Well, my back was feeling better yesterday but fifteen year old had another day. She kept telling me she wanted to punch me. I told her to go ahead if it would make her feel better. She didn’t, she just kept saying she wanted to. Her sister was really into hitting and kicking people as well. Daughter was back to calm last evening, should be interesting to see which way she tips today.

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  147. I went to the site that Janice listed for Chas’ Bible reading plan. Then in the sidebar I clicked on home to see what kind of site it was. On the sidebar of the home page, they had something like health info. I clicked on that and then on the frequently asked questions.
    It was very interesting. I did not read the whole thing, but it made sense to me.

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  148. Okay, I did not go to the FAQ. I have always wondered about it and I do know folks are encouraged to keep their phone in the back pocket for that reason. The effects on the reproductive system. Of course, I have heard concerns about living under power lines, etc, and the effect those have on migration routes of animals in the north. Those are all pooh poohed as silly paranoia but the accumulative affects of our lightbulbs, TV’s, phones, powerlines, etc is not something we actually know. I will go search for that reading.

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  153. Another day. No school for the public school children this past Monday. No school for them tomorrow. No school next Monday. How do they expect to learn anything???

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  154. We are learning here. I told the principal that I had the class sort animal cards individually instead of in pairs nd how well it worked. They really did some deep thinking. She went on and on of how you teach them to work together. This class is not ready, which she could not accept. Oh, well, my aide and I agreed that it went very well. We roamed and asked them to explain how they put their groups together. One little girl said, these are the animals that scare me and the skunk was all alone because it is stinky.

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  155. They have play time to work together or individually, they have occasional projects to work together, but it really is not an idea that has won me over. Yesterday, we were talking about Egypt. I let the small two wrap each other as mummies. Other than the dead girl constantly telling the boy how to wrap her, it worked well. And sometimes I try to encourage them to answer their history or science questions together but only because the older one is so far behind the younger. But usually they need to work individually.

    It still happens in college. In a group, there are one or two who feel they need to earn the admiration of the world by doing it all and the others let them.

    The only purpose in trying to get them to work together, in my opinion, is to reinforce the group think mentality. I don’t want that.

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  156. Working together is a skill to be learned. Yet the thinking was so much deeper when they worked alone and then we asked them for their thoughts. Good thing that I trust my own judgment.
    Thanks for reminding me that they do work together in centres playing on a daily basis. and that is much more valuable than a contrived lesson. I even assign them to centres during the first of our at least two centre times. That means they have to find something to do in all of the different centres. Of course, I kinda stacked the deck in that the way I arranged the names in columns certain ones never share a centre. Shhhhhh….. Don’t tell. 🙂

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  158. One of the prevailing theories for dealing with bullies is to have the bully & his victim in the same group, or paired up, apparently to encourage the bully to see his victim as a real person & not want to bully him anymore. Unfortunately, this adds a lot of stress onto the victim.

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  160. I have heard of bullies & their victims eventually becoming friends, although sometimes that doesn’t happen for a long time.

    I became friends with a tough girl in high school who once threatened to beat me up. I don’t know what changed her mind about me, but she ended up liking me a lot.

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  161. My group this year is pretty sweet. One boy from India is very creative and always wants to tell the others what to do as he creates games. I am working on that.
    finally got on as our internet is barely working

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  162. It is fun to see how God has created each one with his own strengths, and trying how to help each child use those to the benefit of others.

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  165. Good morning from here. Back is a little stiff today, perhaps overdid on the firewood yesterday. I will go easy today, but my back is much better so not complaining. Just reminding you, who also have back problems, to take it easy until it is done.

    Another beautiful day in the neighborhood. At least, I assume so. The sun will not be up for a while yet.

    Another school day off for two, another day where daughter has proclaimed she is dropping out, and another day for two small people to enjoy their studies. Life is good.

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  170. Nice to have a helpful fella drop by.
    Studying the Barton reading program to get ready to tutor. Trouble is the boy I will begin with is already on level 3. Just finished the dvds for level 2. So much to learn. It will be awkward at first.

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  171. I struggle with no ways of teaching. But I have to keep trying as we move forward and hit roadblocks. But I am happy to have ten year old reading finally. We have picked up some lower grade workbooks for him so he can get some job satisfaction by getting them mostly correct. He is a very lazy student in that, he will do his math page, as far as he is willingly able, and then write in a bunch of answers on the rest without effort. Trying to get him to continue to try. I even gave him a little calculator thing for the more challenging problems and he does not use it. Though he loves to use it other times. I don’t let him use it most of the time.

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  173. Thanks for explaining. This is a very precise way of teaching. One thing I like is that she doesn’t keep saying the same thing over and over, but has gestures that indicate what is to be done. To check for tricky letters she has a story and then a gesture. Balloons and Pigs is fun. Holding your hand a certain way to check if it is a b or a p.

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  174. Ten year old definitely engages his hands and fingers while reading. I was astonished when I realized how much he was using his hands to do math, not in a method I could understand at all, but he could. Now he does similarly in reading to help himself get b and d a and p. His big struggles are that he can not say the sound for L and struggles with recognizing w and u and v. He is getting there.

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  176. Maybe he needs to do w, v, and u, on his hands. Three fingers for w, two fingers for v, and the curve between thumb and index finger for u. I am share you are probably already doing this. I always tell my children about Winston Churchill and that he always flashed the v for victory sign. They then love to flash the v at each other as an encouragement.

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  178. January 19 and we’ve still had virtually no snow this month (less than an inch) but several inches of rain. With slightly different weather patterns (colder days) we could have several feet of snow out there. I am not complaining. But it’s the second January in a row we have had a lot of rain and hardly any snow. I was shocked when I moved to Nashville to find that January was the rainiest month–how can it be the rainiest month instead of (at least sometimes) being the snowiest month? But indeed, I spent eight winters in Nashville and only saw snow in January once or twice. That was fine–snow once or twice a winter is enough–but it’s weird in the Midwest. But we got spring in March last year–that was my 19th Midwest winter and the first time I ever saw that–and maybe we’ll get it in March or early April this year, too, at this rate.

    Or maybe we’ll get really clobbered in February or March, with three feet of snow. “HA! Winter ain’t over till it’s over; don’t turn your back on Me!”

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  184. Mumsee, I am studying the Barton reading program getting ready to begin tutoring next week and continue to be wonderfully impressed.
    In the dvd for level 3 that I watched today she gave her system for learning to read and to write sight words. Wow, it makes total sense and agrees with everything else I know. A mom asked how to teach sight words last year, now I have an answer for her.

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  185. I looked at it, Jo, and it was way over my head. Financially as well as my ability to work it. As mentioned before, I am not a teacher.

    Yesterday, son read to me and read to me. It is a book we borrowed from a friend. With few pictures and lots of words and lots of repetition of words. About third grade. He did very well. I am optimistic. Though today he may not be able to read much at all, I know it is in there. We will keep practicing.

    How is the class doing? Ready for the end of term already?

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  186. Cheryl, we had a string of winters like that. This is the first back to what we think of as normal around here with a good cover of snow that has stayed and been added to for a couple of months.

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  189. Last consecutive post. I do have a serious question, for Mumsee or whomever would like to answer it.

    My developmentally-delayed son turns 13 next month. We have tried for a very long time (but have taken breaks so as not to exasperate him) to teach him how to tie his shoes, but the skill has so far eluded him.

    In the last month or so, though, there is looking to be just a glimmer of hope that he may get it. He is getting through more steps of the process, and needs less assistance than he’s ever needed.

    Maybe this is a prayer request, too, asking you to join in the prayers I’ve been praying that, Lord willing, son might be able to master this skill.

    Has anyone here had children who have struggled with tying their shoes? Mumsee, have your children found that difficult? Do you have any strategies for making it easier?

    I know of one adult, whom I knew many years ago, who, despite not having any sort of developmental issues that I was aware of, appeared to not know how to tie shoes. She was on my bowling team when I was a young adult, and her bowling shoes were frequently untied, and she just left them that way. Maybe she did know how to tie shoes (I never saw her do that), but didn’t feel like retying them when they came untied? Can’t figure out why someone would want to risk tripping on shoelaces while carrying a heavy bowling ball, but anyway…

    It got me thinking that maybe some people just never learn how to tie shoes. I would think that could especially be true of someone who is developmentally delayed like my son is, though he has no physical deformities.

    All advice and prayers welcome, for him and for me (patience). I tell myself it doesn’t have to be a big issue. It may just be something he won’t ever be able to do. (There may be other things in life that I’ll find out later, too, that he won’t accomplish, and what is the harm in that? It doesn’t change who he is in God’s eyes.)

    Thank you.

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  192. One more, & then I’ll leave the rest to someone else.

    Boy, oh, boy. When this thread began just a little over two years ago, who’da thunk Donald Trump would be president?

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  193. Today is two years and one month since this thread began, in fact. Or, expressed another way, one year and 13 months.

    Hey, Kizzie, 1-13! Those are your kind of numbers, right? Your birthday?! 🙂

    Anyway, since it seems everyone is being shy about going to 4000, or doesn’t know we’re this close, and Kizzie is kindly leaving the end of this room open, I’ll just announce…

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  197. Cheryl, I think that you need to do some decorating. The view from up here is pretty impressive. I believe this is the 20th floor of our building and we are getting quite high. Wouldn’t that be right if we get new room or a new floor every two hundred posts?

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