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Our Daily Thread 12-4-14

Good Morning!

 Only 21 more Days!

On this day in 1783 Gen. George Washington said farewell to his officers at Fraunces Tavern in New York. 

In 1918 President Woodrow Wilson set sail for France to attend the Versailles Peace Conference. Wilson became the first chief executive to travel to Europe while in office.  

In 1942 U.S. bombers attacked the Italian mainland for the first time during World War II.  

And in 1986 both houses of Congress moved to establish special committees to conduct their own investigations of the Iran-Contra affair.  

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Quote of the Day

“No pressure, no diamonds.”

Thomas Carlyle

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Anyone have a QoD?

92 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 12-4-14”

  4. Good morning, Chas & Aj. I slept great last night!!! Went to bed at 9:30 and didn’t wake up until 5:45!!! I feel like a new woman!

    I’m having lunch today with an old friend I recently reconnected with via Facebook. It should be a fun time.

    Christmas is creeping up on me! I still have many presents to buy, but have Amazon Prime (which means free two day shipping), so I’m not panicked yet. Connie and I wrapped a lot Tuesday, so the tree looks especially festive now with the pretty packages beneath it. I absolutely love Christmas!

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  5. Musical Advent Calendar – Day 4: There are several different “Carol of the Birds”. This is the Catalonian one. Catalonia is an autonomous region in northeastern Spain, which has its own distinct language. This performance opens with a cello tribute to the great Spanish-Catalan cellist Pablo (Pau) Casals, who loved to play “El Cant dels Ocels” as a solo piece. The carol is then sung in Catalan. An English translation follows:

    In seeing emerge
    The greatest light
    During the most celebrated of nights,
    The little birds sing.
    They go to celebrate Him
    With their delicate voices.

    The imperial eagle
    flies high in the sky,
    singing melodically,
    saying, “Jesus is born
    To save us all from sin
    And to give us joy.”

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  8. Chas, I will be home on furlough from Dec. until mid July. My kinder class needs a teacher for the rest of the school year. So far there is no one. I did offer to stay longer, but the principal told me to take my furlough. Waiting for God to provide.

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  9. Good Morning All.
    The alarm went off at 5:30. I have made an appetizer to take to a girl party tonight. One of my agents has had a terrible year and a half. Think of Job when I say terrible. She is have a Christmas Party for all the women of the company. When asked if it were to much for her, she responded that she NEEDED to do this to feel normal. She is such a classic lady and a one strong woman. Two of the other agents helped her get her house decorated and ready for tonight.
    I brought more ornaments from home for the receptionist’s children to decorate the other Christmas tree.
    Mr. P and I are having people over Saturday for the ball game. I am making the Shrimp and Sausage Gumbo that NJL almost won a cooking contest with. I am making a double batch because on Tuesday the 9th we are having a just our office sales meeting. I have won and been given two Publix gift cards recently so my gift to the agents is lunch. I had already offered to do this and I am doing it for my own joy in doing it, but after this I am done. I have already planned the company Christmas party for the 18th.

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  10. Shrimp and Sausage Gumbo!
    I may show up in Alabama Saturday.
    Some things can only be made in certain places.
    i.e. Only Maruices in Columbia makes perfect barbecue.
    The café in Brookgreen Gardens at Surfside makes the perfect Shrimp and Grits.
    etc.

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  11. Donna (and anyone else interested), the Foo Fighters are doing a special on HBO of different cities and the musical legacy in each. Last night we watched the one in New Orleans. This episode will give you a better understanding of NOLA than you get from all the fake Southern accents on NCIS New Orleans and just about any other made for television show. I am posting a link to see the full 1 hour show but you will have to register for a free account to watch it. Notice the interaction between the whites, blacks, Creoles, and any other race there. Listen to the voices. Enjoy the music.
    ****Cursing*****

    http://stream2.fullstreamdb.com/movie/tv/60860/1/6/

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  16. Chas, just tune in to a “contemporary” Christian radio station – you’ll hear plenty of bad renditions of lots of Christmas songs (and hymns, for that matter).

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  17. Miss Bosley must be part dog. My husband had told me how he throws a crumpled up paper ball and she brings it back to him. I did not realize how quick she is and that she does it over and over until she is too tired to continue. It is so funny. My husband can throw the ball much faster and farther than I can. Bosley almost looks like a race horse galloping at top speed to get it and bring it to my husband to do it again. We have NEVER been around a cat like her. She is super entertaining. i am still enjoying last year’s unwanted at time of receipt Christmas gift.

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  18. After Silent Night, you get to select “Amazing Grace”, and then The Old Rugged Cross.
    I like the sound Chet makes. I recognize the skill of other guitarists, like Jerry Reed, but I have to like the sound. I like the sound Chet and Merle Travis make, though there are masters better than Travis, I like the sound.

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  20. I got an email today with a link in it that seemed a little suspicious. Mumsee, if you’re on here today, IdahoMike’s email may have been hacked (not sure if that’s the correct word for it).

    After a general greeting, the email says “I saw it in the Oprah’s show” and is followed by a link to losangelespartybusDOTcom etc.

    Is this a joke that I’m not catching on to? 😉 I hesitate to click on the link because we got a strange email one time from my brother-in-law that went out from his computer because of this hacking business, or whatever it’s called.

    The email this morning says it was sent at 3:39 a.m., but I got it at 2:40 a.m., which doesn’t make any sense unless it was sent from the Eastern time zone and arrived one minute later in my inbox. It went to twenty addresses, including at least two people on here besides myself. All the last names of the people in the mailing are in a five-consecutive-letter-of-the-alphabet range, so it looks like just a portion of Mike’s address book were sent the email.

    The sender says Mike’s first and last name, but if you hover over the sender box, it shows a very different name and email address: lauraATryankennerphotographyDOTcom

    Looks to me like it says “You’re yankin’ her”.

    I don’t recommend clicking on the link, for anyone else who may have gotten it. Mumsee, does Mike know about this? Just thought I’d mention it here.

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  22. Janice, over the years we’ve had a couple of cats that would do that – especially balled up aluminum foil. One (from our litter, that is now in my nephew’s family) will retrieve one of those little felt mice over and over again.

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  24. 6 Arrows @ 10:01. If it’s about losing weight, I got it too. Form Kim’s comment, I may have done the wrong thing.
    It wasn’t from Mike though, it was from someone else…

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  28. that means the rest of you should be watching for that as well. I believe he did send out a newsletter a few days ago but it would be clearly from him and he would not have sent another.

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  29. As often happens, I am behind on reading comments again, but am popping in to ask a question.

    Is four a typically difficult age for boys? Forrest seems more challenging to babysit now than he was at two. Wondering if his physical aggression & such is normal for this age, or a result of the turmoil in his “domestic situation”.

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  30. In my experience, boys are usually more active. I have had many active girls but boys are active in a more enthusiastic way. That is all good. Aggression on the other hand, appears to be more of a tension outlet, as you say, the domestic situation. Let me clarify, aggression in the mean sort as opposed to the overwhelmingness of boys.

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  31. I am reading a magazine put out by ABWE called Message.. In it is a long article about Papua New Guinea, written by Ingrid Hartman. It’s mostly about Goroka Baptist Bible College. Another short article by Dan Byrun about Gambia.
    I thought it interesting that those two would show up at the same time and wondered if Jo, Roscuro and Joanne know any of the people mentioned.

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  32. You’re right, Mumsee, there was a recent newsletter — I received it November 25.

    That was another thing that seemed funny about the email I got today — that it was so soon after the latest update. Plus, that the names and email addresses of the recipients showed. I’m pretty sure they’ve not been included before — I know that they weren’t on the most recent newsletter anyway.

    That reminds me of a question I’ve been intending to ask but haven’t yet, regarding sending out group emails without the recipients knowing who else received it or what their email addresses are.

    Since I’ve begun piano teaching again, I send out a weekly email with a link to a classical music video that is a good teaching tool for my students. When my second student started two weeks after my first one (children from different families), I thought that if the families didn’t want their email showing up for anyone to see who is or will someday be on my mailing list, I should try to do Bcc.

    However, I’m not very technologically literate, and I read up on Bcc to learn how to do it, but it left unanswered questions, so I just type my email, send it to one family, then copy and paste the content into a second email that goes to the other family. It’s not a big deal at this point, but it will become more time-consuming in the event of increasing number of students coming from additional families. So I’d like to learn the Bcc ins and outs, if I could.

    Here’s my question: In my reading on Bcc — before I gave up in confusion 😉 — I read something about the possibility that even if you do send group emails Bcc, sometimes, depending on the operating system of the recipients (or maybe the sender?), recipients’ names and addresses might still be revealed somehow.

    Anyone know more about this? Is there a guaranteed way I can know I sent a group email where none of the recipients can find out anything about the other recipients?

    Thanks much for any advice any of you can provide.

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  34. 6 Arrows,

    I use Bcc for our church email prayer chain. Just click the bcc box and add all the emails, type your message, send and done. It’s easy.

    Before you send the first time, save it in drafts so you can copy and paste the addresses en masse next time.

    I got Mike’s update, but not the other.

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  35. Looks like I slept in today. Kim, I’m shocked that they ****curse**** in NOLA?? 😉

    Like Linda, though, the NCIS-NOLA is growing on me.

    The dogs (finally) dried off overnight (I lock everyone inside), but they couldn’t get enough of the rain & mud yesterday. They were a mess. Their pretty Monday grooms were shot — paws muddy, wet fur … Fortunately the dirt falls out of their coats once it dries, but my kitchen floor as sure taken a hit.

    Still, I’ll take the rain any day. It sure felt good.

    I see Mouse has discovered the Christmas tree. So what will tomorrow’s picture be? Hmmm.

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  36. Thanks, Michelle and AJ. I can’t remember which site I was reading a couple weeks ago that made it sound like Bcc doesn’t always work the way it sounds like it should work.

    Anyway, one more question: Do I need to put my own email in the To: box, or will the message go to the recipients if I only have their names in Bcc, and no names in the To: or Cc: boxes?

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  38. Chas, I certainly know the author of the Gambia article. That couple was brand-new to the field when I got there, so they and I learned alongside each other. The adventures we had together would fill a book and I miss them a lot. I get the Message too, but I had missed that article, so thank you for pointing it out.

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  39. Re Amazon Prime:

    “For years, Amazon naysayers have warned that the e-commerce giant’s ambition would drive it to compete ever more directly with the merchants who sell goods on Amazon’s popular online marketplace. On Wednesday, the company is introducing its own line of diapers and baby wipes, which will only raise these fears.

    “Called Amazon Elements, the line of diapers and baby wipes will only be available to customers who belong to the Amazon Prime membership program, adding another item to the growing list of membership perks. … ”

    http://recode.net/2014/12/04/amazon-unveils-its-own-line-of-diapers-confirming-partners-biggest-fears/

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  40. I always use Bcc in group emails, even if all the recipients know each other. I do that, because a forwarded email shows all the addresses in the To: and Cc: boxes, but not the Bcc.

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  41. If anyone cares, I was first. I came on here, saw that there were no comments, and typed “fir” and then I lost my connection. My husband and I were about to go out to breakfast, but I don’t get two firsts in one week very often, so I quickly went back on and typed “first.” Now I see that it showed up on the prayer thread. 😦 But it was still before Chas’s first post, so if I had succeeded in getting it on the right thread, I would have been first. (I’m fairly sure I was on wandering views the first time, because that’s what I clicked on, but the second time I was rushing.)

    We had a very good morning, though. He has stuff to work on from home today, but we had wanted to go shopping a bit. We both woke up early, cuddled a bit, and I told him we had Bob Evans coupons. So we went there for breakfast, and then to Wal-Mart for a few items, and then we headed for home so we could take one daughter to work before finishing our shopping.

    In a field on the left side of the street were dozens of turkeys. (I sent AJ two photos.) Some of the toms were displaying. In December?! My hunch is that two or more flocks joined together, and the toms are sorting out who is bigger than whom. Anyway, my husband graciously turned around and I got out of the car and got several photos. When I uploaded them, I counted more than 50 birds (exact count uncertain) in one of the group photos, and I know that not all of the birds were in the photo (at least four, and probably more, weren’t in it). So, we had roughly five dozen turkeys, probably more than half a ton of poultry. I said they were celebrating that Thanksgiving is over, and my husband said they evidently don’t know about Christmas!

    Then we went to Kohl’s to use the Kohl’s cash we earned when we bought my new purse and on to a new farmer’s market type store. And then home.

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  42. Cheryl – Oh, we woeful ones with our 1st world problems! I never get to be first on here. Oh, well.

    6- I can send an email through Outlook without a name in either the To: or Cc: boxes. Try that first. If it doesn’t work, put your email in the To: box.

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  43. Cheryl’s right. She was indeed first.

    She’s also touched on a nerve of mine by bringing up a subject of much dismay for me…..

    Kohl’s cash. 😦

    Don’t you people (you too Mrs. AJ’s Cheryl) realize that’s how they suck you in? It’s like Farmville for shopping. Spend this much and we give you “free” “cash” to use later. Then you come back, of course spend a little over your Kohl’s cash, and then earn more so you have to come back again soon. It’s a vicious cycle.

    🙂 and 😦

    because saving money is nice and all, but you’ll save even more if you don’t buy anything. 🙂

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  44. Thanks, Peter. I’ll try that.

    Cheryl, you had Bob Evans coupons? Shouldn’t you have given them back so he could have gone out to eat? 😛 I tell ya, the thievery around here…astounding.

    Donna (1:15) — musical eclecticism is good. 🙂 Speaking of that…

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  45. …I found this neat little piece by Jean-Baptiste Lully while I was hunting around YouTube recently for some music for my piano students. I ended up sharing a different Lully piece with them than this one, but I think many of you will enjoy this short number with a rather interesting blend of sounds. Note how the cellist holds his instrument, too. 🙂

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  46. Aj, @ 2:45. That works. JC Penny sends Elvera a $10.00 coupon every so often. She has to spend it.
    Seriously, she thinks she has lost money if she doesn’t get to spend her JCP dollars.

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  50. Who is Bob Evans?

    AJ’s right about the “cash” coupons. The one place they pay off (in my world) is CVS, where I regularly shop anyway and find their “extra bucks” coupons can really add up when buying essentials like toothpaste and other items I’d normally (probably) buy there anyway.

    Once I’d accumulated a lot of them, went in to stock up on lots of bathroom/kitchen things, and would up getting it for almost free. Really. But I suspect they still made money off me in the deal. 🙄

    And at Target yesterday they had a great deal where if you bought 2 boxes of those cute, tiny Christmas tree lights you got a 3rd box free. I probably could have gotten by with one $11 box. But I thought, well, if I buy two then I’ll get three and then I’ll have lots of extra indoor lights for other stuff. Or something like that.

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  51. I’ve been having dreams almost every night this week, it seems, that, while not outright nightmares, have been unpleasant or unsettling in some way. I don’t remember any of them now, though, except the one I had just before waking up this morning.

    I dreamed I was in an unfamiliar place with a lot of people milling around who I did not know. Over in a corner, I saw 6th Arrow sitting, except she was not seven years old (her real age), but was preschool age.

    And she was not my daughter anymore, but someone else’s, and I was trying to locate her new parents among the sea of unfamiliar faces.

    A most horrible feeling. 😦

    I found the woman who had taken her in, a very cheerful, friendly lady. Then I went over to my daughter and talked to her a little. I don’t remember much of what was said, but I was trying to figure out from her face whether she remembered me or not, and I couldn’t tell. All I remember thinking was that I was afraid she was in daycare, and not home all the time like when she was with me.

    Oh, I remember she did say something like, “I like it a lot”, talking about her life in general, I think, and smiling peacefully. And I also remember thinking she must be glad that now she has a younger sibling.

    Then I woke up, feeling awful.

    I went to her bedroom and sat next to her as she lay sleeping. I couldn’t move for a while.

    Dreams like that, that seem so real, are so unnerving. My heart is thumping again just thinking about it. 😦

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  56. Karen (10:32), I agree with the other responders to your question. Boys are wired differently, and are generally more active.

    It’s funny to see the differences between my two piano students, a boy and a girl who are almost exactly the same age (both turned eight last month). Because their feet don’t reach the floor when they sit on my piano bench, I have a box on the floor that they rest their feet on.

    Well, the girl rests her feet… The boy twists and turns his feet and ankles, frequently turning the box on its side, or sliding it across the rug under the piano. One time, while the box was still upright, he pulled the lid off of it with just his feet. 🙂

    Both sweet kids, but very different in their activity levels!

    Aggression, though, is another matter, and F’s circumstances could certainly play into that, if that is the case.

    One other thing I thought of — did F wean recently? All of my kids, no matter what their age at weaning (and it varied by almost two years, comparing the earliest one to the latest ones), went through a difficult behavioral stage soon after weaning. If so, it could just be a temporary situation related to no more nursing, like it was with mine. Just a thought.

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  58. Re Kohl’s cash: I don’t think I’d ever visited a Kohl’s until I was about to marry. Then someone gave me a Kohl’s gift card and someone else gave me something from Kohl’s I needed to return. I had something in mind that I was looking for, but it turned out that Kohl’s didn’t carry it anymore.

    They were having an end-of-season clearance sale with some extremely tempting prices. I had no need of new clothes, but I was about to get married, and I wandered the store for 45 minutes or so and just couldn’t find anything else to spend it on, so I finally checked out their clothes, and I got several pieces that I knew my husband-to-be would really like (a dress in his favorite color, a lace blouse because he had said he likes lace, a dress with a belt because he likes belts, and so forth). Indeed they are some of his favorites of my clothing, and I didn’t spend a dime, as I recall; I just carefully spent the gift card(s) and the cash back for a return or two.

    When I left, after getting $500 worth of clothes for $100 or something like that, I earned $8 or so in Kohl’s cash, with which I was not familiar. The store was in a suburb some distance from my house, but I made a mental note not to waste the money–I could stretch my purchases even further!

    But I was about to get married and plenty busy, and it was a month or so before I found the unused Kohl’s cash in my purse. It had expired.

    Chas would be proud of me; Elvera, dismayed.

    There is no moral to this story, sorry.

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  59. Re cuddling: my husband and I both like to cuddle, and do so every night before we go to sleep. Morning cuddling is less common simply because he usually gets up before I do. (I often get up again after we go to bed, because it’s too early for me to go to sleep, and even when I don’t, I tend to lie awake for an hour whereas he goes right to sleep. So it isn’t that I’m being lazy and staying in bed longer!) When we’re both awake at the same time in the morning, it’s a sweet blessing and a great way to start the day.

    And before we married, I determined I would make my husband a happy man. I really had no idea how much it would work the other way. When I say “cuddling,” sometimes I mean “just” cuddling and sometimes I don’t. I’ll never tell and neither will he. 🙂 But neither of us believes in doing the bare minimum in loving our mate. And in a culture where “sex” is associated with singleness and not with marriage, I’m pleased to say that I have found few things in life as satisfying as knowing and being known (emotionally, physically, and in every other way) by a person who has committed to a lifetime, no turning back. The mutual vulnerability in marriage is the one thing I didn’t understand as a single. The word “know,” used so often in the KJV, is a very good term for two becoming one.

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  60. Bed Bath & Beyond coupons are good to hang on to.

    I don’t go there often, but when I do (I keep the accumulated coupons in the car), the $5 off one item and the 20% off cards (you can use up to 4-5 of those at a time, I believe) can really save your money. And they honor them even when they’ve expired.

    **No euphemisms were used in this post.

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  64. Yeah, exactly, Chas. I remember one of my colleagues when i was teaching school said her daughter complained about having to bring a purse to school during “that time of the month”, to carry the necessary paraphernalia, because it was, in the daughter’s words, “A walking advertisement for my period.”

    What woman would want any man (other than her husband) to know that?

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  67. That Christmas tree is beautiful, AJ, in the photo. Is Mouse leaving it alone? I think Miss Bosley would be climbing it. This week she jumped up to the top of the mirror over my dresser. She was too big for the top of it and her claws tried to get a grip on the mirror glass as she slid down. I guess you know how that worked for her, Ha!

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  81. The gynecologist’s suggestion is nonsense, on several levels.

    First, women don’t want to advertise. And, OK, you haven’t taken your usual time off this month–is that a hint you might be pregnant?

    Second, not only is it not fair to men (and to women who don’t need it or choose not to use it), but it actually might end up in a backlash toward women–there already are more reasons to pay women for not working than there are for men! (Maternity leave, probably more sick days–not only do we have cycles, but women are more likely to take sick days because their children are sick.) And women aren’t physically as strong, so men often do a greater share of the work if it involves physical labor. A smart employer would start looking for excuses to avoid hiring women in their fertile years.

    Third, it’s subject to abuse–who decides whether a woman is “sick enough” to take advantage of the special treatment? And who’s to stop her from calling in sick on a Friday when she feels good enough to come in but she’d rather have the long weekend? I mean, if it’s on a “use it or lose it” basis each month, women would be tempted to use it, even if they don’t need it.

    I do think that companies should have enough sick days that people who have regular problems can cover most of them by way of sick days. Five days isn’t necessarily enough–it may cover a week of the flu, but then you’re out of sick days for the year. Allowing one day a month for sick days doesn’t seem like overkill . . . but such things should not be made into laws, but up to the company to determine.

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  82. Menstrual leave? Good grief. We’re tougher than that, ladies. Come on.

    So while I was waiting for the veterinarian to come in the exam room to give Annie Oakley her annual once over, I was reading an article in Cat Fancy magazine about how to introduce your cat to the Christmas tree.

    It said you should (a) not decorate it right way, leave it sitting in the house unadorned so the cat can acclimate to it; (b) when you do decorate, don’t let the cat watch because the cat will think the ornaments are her toys (c) put the tree in a room that can be closed off (which kind of defeats having a nice Christmas tree, I think) (d) hook the top if the tree to the ceiling with some strong fishing line so, if worse comes to worse, it can’t be knocked over.

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  83. I only went home from work once for menstrual pain and felt extremely wimpy doing it — but it turned out I had by then developed a case of endometriosis which was causing the additional/unusual pain.

    Otherwise, I easily toughed it out.

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  84. Donna, some women have vicious migraines, extremely bad cramps (I once roomed with a woman who would scream and moan in pain, and throw up everything she tried to ingest, for about two days each month), or extremely heavy cycles. There are definitely legitimate reasons to take a sick day. But for the vast majority of women, offering such a day off would be a freebie, not medical necessity.

    I have long wondered why companies don’t give a bit of an incentive to those who don’t use all their sick days, though. Why not offer a generous number (10-15 per year), allow them to carry over until you have up to say 30, but allow employees to “sell” back any beyond 10 at the end of the year, or when they quit, for say a third to a half of the salaried value. If you make $200 a day and you can sell your sick days for $60 or carry them over in case of an extended illness, you might be inclined to be careful with them. For me personally, I’ve usually used only a small portion of them, and would happily have received what was left as a small bonus when I left the job. That wouldn’t punish those who are sick a lot (they can take the day off with full pay), but it would give a bit of a “thank you” to those who were present every day!

    I suppose such accounting methods may be illegal, but it always seemed to me that it would be a win-win. Those who need sickdays have them, those who don’t need sickdays don’t just lose out on that particular benefit, and companies can encourage employees not to take “fake” sick days by the payment of a fraction of what they’d be paying in lost productivity. (Meanwhile, people who come to work actively sick should really be sent home! I’ve worked with people who come in highly contagious and sick enough to be inefficient, but they’re proud of never taking a sick day. That sort of use of such a policy should be highly discouraged!)

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  85. We have a generous sick day policy where the days do roll over from year to year. I probably easily have a full month of days or more as I miss rarely.

    But you can’t cash them out & if you are out for something long-term, like a surgery, you still have to bump over to disability after the initial few days. But it is nice to know if you get something like the flu, that way-lays you for a week or so, that you’re covered.

    There are exceptions to the menstrual tolerance, I agree — but those are somewhat rare cases & I’d think it would be something that would require a medical workup to see what’s causing the pain & distress.

    All the men have fled the room, now, haven’t they?

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  86. I had more pain in my early 20s, before having babies, but only had one time that the pain was so debilitating, I was doubled over and could hardly move. It was a Sunday, and I was supposed to sing a solo in church that morning, but could hardly get out of bed to make the phone call and tell them I couldn’t be there.

    One of my supervising teachers when I was student teaching had excruciating pain every month for a couple days or so, and the school district had a very musically knowledgeable sub they called for her every month.

    That was the only woman I ever knew who would have consistently needed a leave of that nature.

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  87. And I did get migraines sometimes on my periods (especially common in my 40s) — not every month, but when they came it was always right at that time so I figured they were hormone-related. I missed work for those sometimes, but not always.

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  92. Judging by the times I post, you can realize that it will take me a while to change time zones. I find it very easy to stay up late in California and difficult to get up in the morning.

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