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Our Daily Thread 9-9-14

Good Morning!

On this day in 1836 Abraham Lincoln received his license to practice law. 

In 1898, in Omaha, NE, Tommy Fleming of Eau Claire, WI won the first logrolling championship.

In 1911 Italy declared war on the Ottoman Turks and annexed Libya, Tripolitania, and Cyrenaica in North Africa. 

And in 1957 the first civil rights bill to pass Congress since Reconstruction was signed into law by President Eisenhower. 

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Quote of the Day

“Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself.”

Leo Tolstoy

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 Today is Girolamo Frescobaldi’s birthday.

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Anyone have a QoD?

66 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 9-9-14”

  1. Most westerners never learned that the Ottoman Empire was as large and powerful as the Roman Empire and lasted almost as long. It ended in 1922. It is the goal of most/all Islamists to reestablish the caliph, restore and expand the empire.
    I vaguely knew there had been an Ottoman Empire, but never knew much about it until about ten years ago.
    Obama spoke of the great things that came from the empire. But actually, nothing did. Most great discoveries and inventions came from the west. The only piece of literature that come from it is A Thousand and One Nights. There may be something else. Their music is weird. They think ours is degraded. In many cases they are correct. As of late, anyhow.

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  2. Good evening Jo. I notice several stayed up late on yesterday’s thread.
    We haven’t seen hide nor hair of Kim all day. Karen showed up briefly on the prayer thread, to like something, but disappeared.
    You notice that having nothing to say doesn’t stop me either.
    Or “neither” as we say in NC. Which is correct, Cheryl?

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  3. Chas, I could just say either, and then you could wonder whether I meant the word or that either option is correct. 🙂 But “either” is correct.

    Hey, AJ, you got a cormorant. Did you get any wing-drying action? I got several wing-drying photos in Michigan a couple years ago. I’d never seen cormorants before, but I knew what they were, and I told my husband what they were famous for. Within a few minutes they were cooperating and drying their wings so that I could get some photos.

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  4. Good morning!

    Just wondering if any here have an opinion about using arts and crafts with boys for teaching Sunday school, 1st through 6th grades. We had mostly girls before and now it is mostly guys. I am really having to adjust. Are arts and crafts frowned upon for boys?
    I remember once in working with preschool that a boy wanted to do his work on pink paper. I tried to get him to take blue or some other color, but he insisted on pink. When the mom picked up the boy, she seemed appalled about the pink paper. So I am just wanting some general thoughts. Are srts and crafts too girlie for boys?

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  5. Good Morning all. Last night the weather forecaster used the word “snow” for Friday…ummm
    Janice, when I taught 3/4 grades in SS, the boys enjoyed very much doing crafts. I would always make certain the craft wouldn’t be too gender specific ie: girly yarns, rick rack, pink sparkles. We made “loaves of bread” out of clay once which was fun for them and then there was the time we used paint to swirl inside a clear ornament…let’s just say the boys were a bit over enthusiastic…what a disaster!!

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  6. At a young age I wouldn’t stifle creativity. Some of our greatest artist have been men and I am sure they didn’t worry about whether something was pink or blue.

    September 9, 1997 was also a Tuesday. By now I had gotten up showered, put on my make up and pearls (it was a joke among my friends that I would wear pearls to the delivery). Baby Girl Cotten arrived at 1:50pm weighing in at a whopping 5 lb 7 oz and 18 1/2 inches. They played the Providence Lullaby throughout the hospital to let everyone know that a baby had been born. Her Papa brought her first Madame Alexander Doll to the hospital. It was Elizabeth Taylor from Father of the Bride. (There is a back story there).
    Her Nana walked over to the isolette and started talking to her. She turned her head, and my job was done. She was Nana’s Girl,

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  7. Kim, that would be a good QOD: Have you ever followed through with something others have joked about, and had the last laugh? “By now I had gotten up showered, put on my make up and pearls (it was a joke among my friends that I would wear pearls to the delivery).”

    My sister got married in SC, and her co-workers saw her as a bit of a transplanted Yankee (actually Arizona girls aren’t Yankees, but that’s a different story!). They teased her that they wouldn’t come to her wedding unless they could throw grits at her, so she told them they could. On her wedding day, we handed out bags of rice to most people . . . but my sister herself handed out packets of instant grits to her co-workers! Unfortunately it was misting a little and the grits stuck to her gown in spots.

    I can’t think offhand of a time that I’ve done that, but I’m sure I’ll manage to think of something later.

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  8. Happy Birthday to Chloe!
    The grandkids, great grands, etc. call Elvera “Nana”. It’s a common nickname because the child tries to say “mama” and that’s what comes out.

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  9. Happy Birthday to your baby girl Kim! I love that image of your wearing pearls to the delivery 🙂
    My grandkids call me “genny” My granddaughter couldn’t quite get out “granny”…thus I have become genny to my daughter’s kiddos 🙂

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  10. There’s an article in this month’s Newsmax called “Pet-Pampering Products” for dogs & cats. I know I’m stepping on some toes here, but I doubt of a cat wants a Cat Croc Bed or a Cat scratcher. Nor does a dog want a vest or raincoat. My dogs just wanted food and attention. The cats I’ve known just wanted food and a place to sleep. (They usually found their own place to sleep.)

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  11. Kim, when it’s coming up on my children’s birthdays, I also tend to think back to when I was in labor and what I was doing at specific times leading up to their birth times. Five out of six of the kids were born in the early morning, but every time except once my labor started the day before the birth, so usually the night before their birthdays I’ll think things like, “Oh, this was what time we were leaving for the hospital,” etc…

    There’s a Subway in the city where the hospital is, and every time I drive past that Subway, I remember stopping there to eat on our way to the hospital to have our youngest child. I wasn’t in labor yet, but had to go to the hospital, anyway, because my water had broken the night before and I never went into labor, so we were advised to head to the hospital, though they said it wasn’t a huge hurry (yet). So we stopped and ate at that Subway, and that’s become a part of my memory of having my littlest one.

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  12. Ouch! Chas stepped on my toes!

    Exactly what kind of cat scratcher? Bosley has a corrugated rectangular scratching board that you add catnip to. It is suppose to be getting the damage the furniture would suffer otherwise. She also has a hairbrush which helps cut down on hairballs. Is the scratcher like either of those? Those are important items to have for an indoor cat. We did not have those for our outdoor cats.

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  14. I don’t usually think of the birth story for my son’s birthday. Sometimes when we are on the expressway near the hospital (no longer in business) I am reminded how my husband missed the exit to the hospital, and that I felt angry about that. I went in on a Tues. morning and did not have son until Thurs. around 2:00 a.m. by c-section. Back labor, failure to dialate past 5, etc. made it be an experience one tends to not think back on. Bithing classes had only prepared me for natural birth. I felt like a big failure for having a c-section. That is what birthing classes did for me. But son was 10 lb. 13 oz. and we both might have died without that c-section. I hope the birthing classes are not still brainwashing that natural is the only way.

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  15. Great pearls story. 🙂 Happy Birthday to BG.

    I have cat scratchers (if you mean the posts and/or boards that cats like to sharpen their claws on). They use & like them, and it really does save your furniture from a similar fate.

    And it’s true that cat “beds” are optional, they sleep where they will. Mine often chooses one of the big dog beds and curls up right in the middle, so the dogs can’t use it.

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  17. The pearls story definitely tops the Subway story. 😉

    Speaking of mispronouncing “Mama”, my youngest was born in 2007, and when she started talking in 2008, the first time she tried to say, “Oh, Mama,” it came out, “O-bama”!! Several of my conservative friends at church got a charge out of that! 😀

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  18. Janice, one of my best girlfriends was also very disappointed when she had to have a C-section with her first baby. So she worked with her doctor to make sure she could have her 2nd naturally — and she did, but it was not a good experience and there was some scary moments of real danger for both her and the baby at one point.

    They got through it, but she had horror stories — and I suspect she concluded afterwards that there’s nothing really wrong, after all, with going C-section when needed.

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  20. Janice- Since boys tend to be more “hands on” go ahead and use the crafts. As for the color, very few people remember that pink used to be a boys color, since it is a shade of red, and red was considered to aggressive a color for girls. So in the olden days baby girls were dressed in baby blue, and boys in pink. We found this out when we had our baby daughter in a pink gown at the store and an elderly lady asked us what our boy’s name was.

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  22. Thank you for the wonderful Frescobaldi piece today, AJ! A lovely listen for my birthday. 😉

    (I wasn’t going to spill the beans, but, hey, I do enjoy sharing a birthday with Kim’s Baby Girl, so I will broadcast that.) 🙂

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  23. Two of my boys favorite color has been pink for years. They like doing stuff. Some are more artistic than others but they all enjoy making things.

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  29. Cheryl’s QoD – Have you ever followed through with something others have joked about, and had the last laugh?:
    When I was going through nursing school, I still dressed in the conservative style to which I had been raised with long skirts – except when I was wearing my nurse’s uniforms. My classmates were variously pierced, dyed, and inked; and my obvious difference resulted in some good natured teasing about how I was going to be corrupted by their influence.

    So, one day, when I didn’t need to be dressed for nursing (we were told to remove or cover all superfluous body decorations for certain classes), I adorned myself with a false pink hair piece, a washable tattoo and a fake nose piercing. I was standing with several of my fellow students waiting for a class when one began by complementing me on my nose stud and another expressed interest in my tattoo. I held out as long as I could, and then reminded them of the date – it was April 1st. They were all extremely amused (I was actually surrounded by a crowd of classmates who wanted to see my fake adornments) and I was never teased about my dress style again.

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  31. Happy Birthday to 6Arrows & BG!

    I just got back from a trip from the East Coast to see family that I hadn’t seen for six years. My family roots go back a long way there (over 250 years) and going there seems like coming home .

    I appreciate this piece on the value of life: http://www.worldmag.com/2014/09/worthy_lives – “The paradox is that when we clutch life too tightly we may not see its worth. “Whoever loses his life for my sake will find it” (Matthew 10:39). What your life means to you is secondary; the real issue is what it means to Christ.”

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  32. Thank you for all the birthday wishes! 😉 So far it’s been a pretty ordinary day — I paid bills this morning, then went down to the mailbox to mail them, but the mail had already come, and, guess what? There were more bills. 😛

    Ah, real life! But life is good; I am enjoying 52 years of God’s grace.

    And thanks for that World article link, Roscuro. A good one.

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  34. Happy B’day 6. 🙂

    And to BG as well. 🙂

    Cheryl,

    I put a wing drying pic up now. It’s not great because they’re so far away, but it’s not horrible. You can at least tell what you’re looking at. 🙂

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  35. OK, a quick question.

    I notice when I look at the header pics they look slightly overexposed, kinda hazy. But if I put my cursor on it, it clears up and looks much better.

    Does anyone else experience this, or is it just me?

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  41. I had a cousin who was quite upset by having a C-section instead of a “natural birth”. She also felt like a failure. So when I asked her if a natural childbirth experience was important enough to her that she would have rather one or both of them die? She changed her mind.

    I did the same thing for another friend who was upset that she almost died during childbirth and was rushed into emergency surgery, was in ICU and therefore unable to breast feed. They developed formula for babies whose mother’s couldn’t nurse. Stop whining and give the baby a bottle! You’re both alive!

    That was back when I was more pulled together. Now I would never say anything like that because I have whined a time or two myself in the past few years.

    Nana is making chicken and dumplings for BG’s birthday dinner. Guess who isn’t invited? whine,whine,whine.

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  42. Aj, I can tell a difference.

    It was October 19, 1963. I had just gone to work at the Army Map Service on the first week in September. The class was put in the AMS Training Center while we awaited TS/SCI clearance. (Top Secret, Special Compartmented Information) It took months, and the Training Center was sort of a holding cell.
    Well? I had acquired a couple of friends during that time. (Mel married my SIL and I still e-mail Ed.)
    We had them over for dinner that evening. (Mel was single and Ed’s wife was still in Montana.) After dinner we were sitting around talking. The subject of October birthdays came up. My mother’s BD was, in October, so was Mel’s, so was Chuck’s. We had a nice visit and they left.
    Later that evening, we were sitting on the couch in our little house trailer. Elvera said, “Charlie, I’m not mad or anything, but today was my birthday”.

    😥

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  44. Some time back I asked all of you to pray for a young mother who had cancer. Recently she told her husband that she dreamed she was sitting in a room decorated for Christmas with all the people who were waiting to go see Jesus. I just got a text that she has gone to see Jesus where it is always Christmas.

    She leaves behind a husband who adored here and two little girls who will grow up without their mommy. Their mommy did teach them to love Jesus before she left.

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  47. AJ, I notice the same thing as you do with the pictures, both the header photo and those in the sidebar. It’s funny, though, that on another site one time I noticed just the opposite — the picture was clear until you moved the cursor over it, then it got fuzzy. Technology is funny, that’s the only explanation I have. 😉

    And yes, those musicians — what a great team they made. The cellist gave excellent cues, and his accompanist was quite attentive and right with him, even in the passages where both were playing fast notes. And did you see how far down the fingerboard he had to move his left hand to get some of those high notes? Wow! I was impressed. 🙂

    Thanks for the burrito! Nice that the birthday girls get to have their own, but I sure hope there isn’t a fight over those other two! 😯

    Chas, October 19, 1963 was the day my brother was born. My mom, one sister and one of my grandmothers were also born in October.

    Janice, you always make such lovely birthday cards here. 🙂

    And about the arts and crafts thing with boys — my older son didn’t enjoy doing anything like that, but my younger son loves to draw pictures of vehicle instrument panels. That’s probably not something he’d be doing much of in Sunday School, though! 🙂

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  49. Well, Chas, I had to remind my mother of my birthday once–and she was there!!

    I think it was my 21st birthday. My younger brother, sister, and I helped Mom move, spending several hours doing so. She suggested going out for supper, and we went to Taco Bell, each of us paying for our own, with me thinking that she might at least pay for the birthday girl! (My siblings would have been almost 18 and almost 20, with only my youngest brother still living at home.) A few minutes before midnight Mom and I were together, one of us taking the other back to her car, I think. I glanced at the car clock and said, “Oh, there’s only 13 minutes left of my birthday!” She said, “Oh yeah, it is your birthday. Happy birthday!”

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  51. A few years ago I was visiting my parents and during that time, it was MY birthday. It just so happens my niece’s little girl share’s the day with me. Add to that, my nephew was visiting from out of state and his birthday was 4 days after mine. We went to celebrate my great niece’s birthday…and at the same time, everyone brought gifts for my nephew. I sat there with a “smile” on my face, giving gifts to the great niece and to the nephew….no one mentioned that it happened to be my birthday. When we returned to my parent’s home, Mom and Dad settled in, watching TV and relaxing. I told them I was going to go out for a while…they asked where I was going…I told them I was going to the store to buy myself a birthday cake and some ice cream…their response “oh”…..as a “middle child”…I was sort of use to being forgettable 🙂

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  52. I nearly forgot my 19th BD. But I have an excuse. I was in basic training at Lackland AFB and was on base detail. I didn’t even know what day it was until mid morning.

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  53. Friends brought birthday cake over for my 18th birthday. I think the paper mill was on strike so my dad was working 12 hour shifts, 14 days on, 7 days off. He woke me up the next morning and asked me whose birthday cake that was!!! His will also left everything do his daughter Kimberly born January 7th. I have an extra E in my name–like the diamond mine in South Africa–that was another thing he tried to sell me on– My birthday is January 6.

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  54. Mr. P’s birthday was August 26th. That is the day I got the accepted offer on the house. I told him I bought him a house for his birthday….I don’t think I will be getting anything in January.

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  55. On my 25th BD, my friends got together and bought me a battery for my BD. They were tired of pushing my car to get it started.
    Most of you don’t remember when you could push a car to start it.

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  56. I’m pretty sure I remember seeing that done, Chas.

    Going out to dinner with hubby tonight. Just us! The children will fend for themselves. 😉

    Not sure if I’ll be here when a certain number rolls around, but just to cover the bases…

    56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62!

    There. 😉

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  64. Chas @ 7:57: Yes it does. 😉

    We had a nice meal tonight, then went to the mall. I got one skirt for home and one for church. The home one was on sale (48% off), and the church one was not, but hubby and I like them both a lot, so they were good deals for that reason.

    Thanks again for all the birthday greetings! It’s been an enjoyable day. 🙂

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  66. Good evening Jo.
    “Something to wear to church” was, at one time, a woman’s way of saying, “something nice”, vice just wear around.
    Leastways, it was in the South.

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