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Psalm 90
¹ Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.
2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
3 Thou turnest man to destruction; and sayest, Return, ye children of men.
4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
5 Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep: in the morning they are like grass which groweth up.
6 In the morning it flourisheth, and groweth up; in the evening it is cut down, and withereth.
7 For we are consumed by thine anger, and by thy wrath are we troubled.
8 Thou hast set our iniquities before thee, our secret sins in the light of thy countenance.
9 For all our days are passed away in thy wrath: we spend our years as a tale that is told.
10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.
11 Who knoweth the power of thine anger? even according to thy fear, so is thy wrath.
12 So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.
13 Return, O Lord, how long? and let it repent thee concerning thy servants.
14 O satisfy us early with thy mercy; that we may rejoice and be glad all our days.
15 Make us glad according to the days wherein thou hast afflicted us, and the years wherein we have seen evil.
16 Let thy work appear unto thy servants, and thy glory unto their children.
17 And let the beauty of the Lord our God be upon us: and establish thou the work of our hands upon us; yea, the work of our hands establish thou it.
Prayer please for twelve year old daughter, who appears to reacting poorly to hormones and her sister’s eighteenth birthday. She feels abandoned by her sister, who moved out last fall. She has begun talking more with her little friends in her head. It is actually a thing where she changes voices and says things unlike her. She assures us she is pretending, but I suspect there could be more. Her sister hears voices at times, or so she says. We never know what the truth is from some of these mouths, we rely on God to bring out the Truth we need to know to deal with things. Prayer for wisdom on handling it and comfort for her. I believe she is a believer. But it may be more of a superstitious protection against evil, which she knows exists. She knows from her own thoughts and life experience and that of her older sister.
Mumsee, I will be praying. It does not necessarily sound spiritual in origin. My first thought was that she is showing the symptoms of dissociative identity disorder (popularly known as multiple personality disorder). With a childhood history like hers, it is not surprising that she would be dividing herself into pieces in order to compartmentalize, and thus control, the pain. The disorder often appears in adolescence. I know a sincere Christian woman who suffered with the disorder due to severe childhood abuse and it took many years of therapy for her to feel safe enough to leave abandon the alternative personas.
I seem to be overly sensitive and am easily having my feelings hurt. This is not usual for me. I have always made my living in sales and have pretty thick skin. I don’t like being like this.
Mumsee, I have pondered 12 year old most of the afternoon. I am at a loss. Many things have floated through my head. Many years ago I read a book “When Rabbit Howls” about child abuse and multiple personalities. For true multiples it is a coping mechanism, not an attention getter.
So, this multiple personality thing, which she had a lot when she first got here, do you think it is triggered by things and could potentially subside again? She has not done much of it in a couple of years. We think she does it to keep the noise level down in her head when she is alone. Because her thoughts are overwhelming. We will certainly medicate her if we need to, but prefer to see if safety will do the work. I have read that it manifests in adolescence and does not go away. But we know she was doing it when she got here at age eight.
I thought multiple personality was pretty much discredited. Schizophrenia is a possibility. I would certainly keep an eye out and get medical help, if things deteriorate anymore. Better medication, if needed, than getting worse and worse. Better medication than harming yourself or others. It is often difficult to know what to do.
Mumsee I do not know. From my very limited knowledge it is my understanding that what one personality cannot handle another stronger personality can. She can’t handle her older sister abandoning her but another personality who can handle it takes over to cope.
Kim, have you had your own thyroid checked? That can certainly make a difference with emotions. Of course, there are other reasons for hormones to be out of whack. My sympathy.
Prayers for you and the others with the weather predicted down there. I was greatly relieved my daughter and her family was ok yesterday. I would rather have our cold/rainy and snowy weather.
KI, it is certainly nothing to play with and we do take it seriously. We have had her evaluated and she was working with a psychiatrist for the first few months we had her until he released her.
Kathaleena, dissociative identity disorder has not been discredited and is a real mental health diagnosis. What may confuse people is that it doesn’t really look like the Hollywood portrayals of multiple personality disorder.
Mumsee, I was thinking that she had already showed some symptoms before this. The reason it is cropping up again now may well be due to the fact that she is realizing the full significance of what happened to her in her childhood. I know that when I reached puberty, even though I had known previously that what had happened to me as a young child was bad, it was only when I began to physically mature that I really understood what had happened and the realization catapulted me into five years of undiagnosed, untreated mental illness.
As for the claim that dissociative disorder never goes away, the lady I know was able to overcome it. Our Lord is powerful, and while thirteen-year-old may always have some parts of her that are broken (I still have broken pieces), she can be restored to a full life again through Him. His strength is made perfect in our weakness.
One practical tip, which I learned from my mental health class in nursing school, was that it is possible to redirect the person when they switch personalities by telling them that you want to talk to ____ (the name of the real person).
I got a nasty virus on my computer and had to scan it and type from my cell phone. I got back to see that Roscuro addressed some of the things I was going to say.
My molestation was discovered and stopped early on, but there are always lingering effects. I can tell you about me, not to draw attention to me but to share the experience.
I didn’t date a lot in school. I would just about jump out of my skin around boys. I don’t know how to flirt. At various points in my life it has cropped up. I am not sure how old I was when it happened but when BG got close to that age I lost my mind. I wouldn’t even let men I trusted near her. As you all know I routinely go in to the therapist for a 100,000 mile tune up and I am currently medicated.
While I may come across as flip about this, my way of dealing with the hard stuff is to hide behind humor. Look beyond the smile and find the sadness. This isn’t something to take lightly. The “noise in her head” is real and the voices are real. I had quite the imaginative fantasy life. It really is too bad I am not a novelist.. I won’t go so far as to say that I had multiple personalities or anything close, but I did pretend to be a whole lot of other made up people. It has never been anything I acted out in real life, it has all been in my head.
Don’t overlook that she made need to go back to the therapist. She may be remembering things she shoved down and isn’t able to process them. It takes a lot to feel secure.
Did you ever read the book I told you about–Perfect Daughters–about the daughters of alcoholic mothers? When a child from that background starts to reach puberty she doesn’t know how to handle it. She doesn’t want a male to notice her. Male attention has bad connotations.
With good support, some therapy, and even a little medication you can help her. She is lucky to have a woman such as yourself to guide her through this. I have heard you talk to your children. You are very direct, too the point, and no nonsense. I almost want to tell you to bring the subject up to her and listen to what she has to tell you, but I don’t know if that is best because I am not a professional.
Know that I care. Would a surprise package make her feel better? Do either of “my girls” need anything? I am assuming it is my traveling partner with the bruised tail bone.
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Prayer please for twelve year old daughter, who appears to reacting poorly to hormones and her sister’s eighteenth birthday. She feels abandoned by her sister, who moved out last fall. She has begun talking more with her little friends in her head. It is actually a thing where she changes voices and says things unlike her. She assures us she is pretending, but I suspect there could be more. Her sister hears voices at times, or so she says. We never know what the truth is from some of these mouths, we rely on God to bring out the Truth we need to know to deal with things. Prayer for wisdom on handling it and comfort for her. I believe she is a believer. But it may be more of a superstitious protection against evil, which she knows exists. She knows from her own thoughts and life experience and that of her older sister.
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Mumsee, praying for your daughter.
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So hard for her and you. Praying.
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Mumsee, I will be praying. It does not necessarily sound spiritual in origin. My first thought was that she is showing the symptoms of dissociative identity disorder (popularly known as multiple personality disorder). With a childhood history like hers, it is not surprising that she would be dividing herself into pieces in order to compartmentalize, and thus control, the pain. The disorder often appears in adolescence. I know a sincere Christian woman who suffered with the disorder due to severe childhood abuse and it took many years of therapy for her to feel safe enough to leave abandon the alternative personas.
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I seem to be overly sensitive and am easily having my feelings hurt. This is not usual for me. I have always made my living in sales and have pretty thick skin. I don’t like being like this.
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Mumsee, I have pondered 12 year old most of the afternoon. I am at a loss. Many things have floated through my head. Many years ago I read a book “When Rabbit Howls” about child abuse and multiple personalities. For true multiples it is a coping mechanism, not an attention getter.
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http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/760941.When_Rabbit_Howls
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So, this multiple personality thing, which she had a lot when she first got here, do you think it is triggered by things and could potentially subside again? She has not done much of it in a couple of years. We think she does it to keep the noise level down in her head when she is alone. Because her thoughts are overwhelming. We will certainly medicate her if we need to, but prefer to see if safety will do the work. I have read that it manifests in adolescence and does not go away. But we know she was doing it when she got here at age eight.
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I thought multiple personality was pretty much discredited. Schizophrenia is a possibility. I would certainly keep an eye out and get medical help, if things deteriorate anymore. Better medication, if needed, than getting worse and worse. Better medication than harming yourself or others. It is often difficult to know what to do.
I will certainly pray about it.
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Mumsee I do not know. From my very limited knowledge it is my understanding that what one personality cannot handle another stronger personality can. She can’t handle her older sister abandoning her but another personality who can handle it takes over to cope.
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Kim, have you had your own thyroid checked? That can certainly make a difference with emotions. Of course, there are other reasons for hormones to be out of whack. My sympathy.
Prayers for you and the others with the weather predicted down there. I was greatly relieved my daughter and her family was ok yesterday. I would rather have our cold/rainy and snowy weather.
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KI, it is certainly nothing to play with and we do take it seriously. We have had her evaluated and she was working with a psychiatrist for the first few months we had her until he released her.
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Kathaleena, dissociative identity disorder has not been discredited and is a real mental health diagnosis. What may confuse people is that it doesn’t really look like the Hollywood portrayals of multiple personality disorder.
Mumsee, I was thinking that she had already showed some symptoms before this. The reason it is cropping up again now may well be due to the fact that she is realizing the full significance of what happened to her in her childhood. I know that when I reached puberty, even though I had known previously that what had happened to me as a young child was bad, it was only when I began to physically mature that I really understood what had happened and the realization catapulted me into five years of undiagnosed, untreated mental illness.
As for the claim that dissociative disorder never goes away, the lady I know was able to overcome it. Our Lord is powerful, and while thirteen-year-old may always have some parts of her that are broken (I still have broken pieces), she can be restored to a full life again through Him. His strength is made perfect in our weakness.
One practical tip, which I learned from my mental health class in nursing school, was that it is possible to redirect the person when they switch personalities by telling them that you want to talk to ____ (the name of the real person).
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I got a nasty virus on my computer and had to scan it and type from my cell phone. I got back to see that Roscuro addressed some of the things I was going to say.
My molestation was discovered and stopped early on, but there are always lingering effects. I can tell you about me, not to draw attention to me but to share the experience.
I didn’t date a lot in school. I would just about jump out of my skin around boys. I don’t know how to flirt. At various points in my life it has cropped up. I am not sure how old I was when it happened but when BG got close to that age I lost my mind. I wouldn’t even let men I trusted near her. As you all know I routinely go in to the therapist for a 100,000 mile tune up and I am currently medicated.
While I may come across as flip about this, my way of dealing with the hard stuff is to hide behind humor. Look beyond the smile and find the sadness. This isn’t something to take lightly. The “noise in her head” is real and the voices are real. I had quite the imaginative fantasy life. It really is too bad I am not a novelist.. I won’t go so far as to say that I had multiple personalities or anything close, but I did pretend to be a whole lot of other made up people. It has never been anything I acted out in real life, it has all been in my head.
Don’t overlook that she made need to go back to the therapist. She may be remembering things she shoved down and isn’t able to process them. It takes a lot to feel secure.
Did you ever read the book I told you about–Perfect Daughters–about the daughters of alcoholic mothers? When a child from that background starts to reach puberty she doesn’t know how to handle it. She doesn’t want a male to notice her. Male attention has bad connotations.
With good support, some therapy, and even a little medication you can help her. She is lucky to have a woman such as yourself to guide her through this. I have heard you talk to your children. You are very direct, too the point, and no nonsense. I almost want to tell you to bring the subject up to her and listen to what she has to tell you, but I don’t know if that is best because I am not a professional.
Know that I care. Would a surprise package make her feel better? Do either of “my girls” need anything? I am assuming it is my traveling partner with the bruised tail bone.
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Nope, it is her older sister. And she is doing much better now.
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