What’s interesting in the news this weekend?
Open thread weekend, what’ve ya got?
Just two from me today.
1. Does Pat have a point?
From Creators.com “In his Kremlin defense of Russia’s annexation of Crimea, Vladimir Putin, even before he began listing the battles where Russian blood had been shed on Crimean soil, spoke of an older deeper bond.
Crimea, said Putin, “is the location of ancient Khersones, where Prince Vladimir was baptized. His spiritual feat of adopting Orthodoxy predetermined the overall basis of the culture, civilization and human values that unite the peoples of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus.” Russia is a Christian country, Putin was saying.
This speech recalls last December’s address where the former KGB chief spoke of Russia as standing against a decadent West:
“Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values. Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation.”
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2. Don’t worry Hillary, we have the same problem.
From TheCapitolCityProject “On April 3, 2014, Hillary Clinton spoke at the Women of the World Summit in New York City and was asked what she was most proud of during her tenure as Secretary of State. Clinton could not provide any concrete examples of the accomplishments she holds in high regard.”
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Wandering Views 
More from Aj’s clip by Buchanan on Putin:
Not only in his defiance of what much of the world sees as America’s arrogant drive for global hegemony. Not only in his tribal defense of lost Russians left behind when the USSR disintegrated.
He is also tapping into the worldwide revulsion of and resistance to the sewage of a hedonistic secular and social revolution coming out of the West.
In the culture war for the future of mankind, Putin is planting Russia’s flag firmly on the side of traditional Christianity. His recent speeches carry echoes of John Paul II whose Evangelium Vitae in 1995 excoriated the West for its embrace of a “culture of death.”
What did Pope John Paul mean by moral crimes?
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This writer was startled to read in the Jan-Feb. newsletter from the social conservative World Council of Families in Rockford, Ill., that, of the “ten best trends” in the world in 2013, number one was “Russia Emerges as Pro-Family Leader.”
In 2013, the Kremlin imposed a ban on homosexual propaganda, a ban on abortion advertising, a ban on abortions after 12 weeks and a ban on sacrilegious insults to religious believers.
“While the other super-powers march to a pagan world-view,” writes WCF’s Allan Carlson, “Russia is defending Judeo-Christian values. During the Soviet era, Western communists flocked to Moscow. This year, World Congress of Families VII will be held in Moscow, Sept. 10-12.”
Will Vladimir Putin give the keynote?
In the new ideological Cold War, whose side is God on now?
A weird turn of events.
He has a point. Much of the world, especially the Islamic nations, is repulsed by the moral stance of the so-called Christian nations. That’s us.
I worry. I really do. Not for me, so much, but for you and my children. A time of reckoning always comes.
One of my regular prayers for my grandkids is that God will protect them during the times of trouble coming to this country.
There is always a harvest.
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I see where Jim Moran, D/Va (Alexandria) says $175k isn’t enough for Congressmen to live on.
FoxNews says that Congress spent 151 days in session last year. Assuming that they work 12 hour days while in session, that’s 1812 hours. The government standard for a work year is 2080 hours.
That gives them about seven weeks they could use for a part time job at Chick-fil-a, or some such.
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It’s expensive to live in DC. I actually understand. This may explain why, however, so many are looking for money.
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I know it’s expensive, I used to live there. In Annandale, Va. I lived on much less than $175k.
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Well, Buchanan has done it again – he has managed to make me angry. The short answer to his ridiculous and presumptuous question of whose side God would be on is ‘Neither’. Which brings me to ask him a question in return: Did your generation believe God was on their side in the Cold War? Did you honestly think that God looked with greater approval on a side which accomplished its objectives by fomenting rebellions and coups in other countries, replacing their leaders with such bloody dictators as General Suharto and Augusto Pinochet? A side which cajoled and coerced third world countries like India and South Korea into forcing their citizens to be sterilized for population control?
The Bible makes it clear that God accomplishes his own purposes in setting up rulers and taking them down (Psalm 75:7, see also the book of Habakkuk). After all, He is not interested in building worldly kingdoms. The only side He is on is His own – “My kingdom is not of this world” Christ said to Pilate, a statement that Christians seem to have trouble remembering. To say that because Putin is a member of the Russian Orthodox Church, therefore he is on God’s side is like saying because Louis XIV was a member of the Catholic church, therefore he was God’s side, though he drove the Huguenots from France. Muslim extremists also condemn homosexuality, are they also on the God’s side? They say they are.
Also, the eager rush to embrace a stronger leader because yours is unsatisfactory reminds me strongly of I Samuel 8. The up and coming judges of Israel were a corrupt and shifty lot. The people demanded a king. Samuel warned them, he told them of the taxes and tribute such a powerful leader would levy; but they wouldn’t listen. They were too afraid of the freedom they had. Do those who endorse Putin think that they would be let alone to rail against his leadership the way they can rail against Obama? Do they think that justice is any better in a system run by Russian mobsters than it is in their current constitutional process? Because one internet CEO was removed from his position for his convictions, will communication be freer under a former KGB agent? Do they so fear the consequences of their freedom that they would bow their neck under a tyrant’s heel? Now I know how it looked at the end of the Roman Republic, as Caesar stood poised to become Emperor. Is the cry of Christians in the West now, “We have no king but Putin”?
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I like the idea of congressmen and women working part-time jobs at fast-food joints. 🙂 It’s what everyone else has to do.
Honestly, how have we elected some of these people? And why are we paying them so much?
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Thanks roscuro. The whole “isn’t Putin wonderful” chatter completely baffles (and alarms) me. 😦
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From Sproul:
http://www.ligonier.org/learn/qas/should-christians-work-have-christian-values-publi/
“At what point are we to maintain that very careful line of separation of church and state?
“In our political heritage, as well as in our Christian heritage, we understand that there is a difference between the institution of civil government (the state) and the institution of the church. It is not the church’s task nor responsibility to tell the governor how to govern or to make the government establish our religious preferences.
“However, we also have to keep in mind that both the state and the church are under God. The state is not sovereign; the state never has the right to do wrong. The state is always under the authority of God. God institutes government, God ordains government, and God will judge government. He holds government and all other institutions in our society responsible for doing what is right. …”
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Chas, That is a very wise prayer.
Roscuro, There are two great moral issues in this century:
1. The killing of unborn children; and;
2. The promotion of perversion to the young by governments and popular culture.
On this second issue only Putin (of all world leaders) has taken a stand for Biblical values. He has banned the promotion of perversion in Russia and has fought to reduce UN promotion of perversion in poorer countries instituted by the US, Canada and Western Europe.
On this second issue, the US and other Western governments are clearly on the side of Satan and the perverts who wish to entice youth into their destructive lifestyle. Chas is right. A day of reckoning is coming for the US. Buchanan, like Chas, probably fears for his own grandchildren. We are very uncomfortable living in a country that is on the side of Satan.
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Donna J, I don’t think Buchanan or Franklin Graham or others are saying, “Isn’t Putin wonderful?” I think they are saying “The moral positions (particularly on the issue of perversion) of the US and the West are horrible and are clearly worse than Putin’s positions.
Sadly, I think Obama represents the views of the majority of Americans (who elected him twice) and Putin represents the views of most Russians as he is very popular there. So the problem is with us – the American people.
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I have no delusions of who and what Putin is, and I certainly don’t seek to embrace him or his philosophy. Make no mistake, Putin is a dictator. I agree he’s placed there by God, as are all rulers, to serve whatever purpose He has for them. And he wouldn’t be the first ruthless and evil ruler to be used by God to accomplish a greater good.
On some issues, like the 2 mentioned by Ricky, he’s got a position we agree with. I think on these 2, his actions help his country, regardless of his desire to rule the world with an iron fist.
There’s nothing wrong with being honest and admitting when your enemy has it right for a change.
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The next victim’s of the gay mafia?
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/04/04/uh-oh-60-of-intel-employees-who-donated-in-prop-8-debate-supported-banning-gay-marriage/
“Using the LA Times’s trusty blacklist database, Nate Silver ran the numbers on donations from people who work at Fortune 500 Silicon Valley companies and discovered that a majority of every company’s employees donated towards defeating the ban. Every company, that is, except one.”
“The Los Angeles Times maintains a database of contributions for and against Proposition 8. The database includes the names of a donor’s employer, as is required by campaign finance law. I checked the records for some of the largest technology companies in Silicon Valley: specifically those that were in the Fortune 500 as of 2008. The list includes Hewlett-Packard, Intel, Cisco Systems, Apple, Google, Sun Microsystems, eBay, Oracle, Yahoo, Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) and Symantec. I limited the search to donors who listed California as their location.
In total between these 11 companies, 83 percent of employee donations were in opposition to Proposition 8. So Eich was in a 17 percent minority relative to the top companies in Silicon Valley…
However, there was quite a bit of variation from business to business. At Intel, 60 percent of employee donations were in support of Proposition 8. By contrast, at Apple, 94 percent of employee donations were made in opposition to Proposition 8. The opposition was even higher at Google, where 96 percent of employee donations were against it, including $100,000 from co-founder Sergey Brin.”
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AJ, It’s got to be all those engineers Intel hired from Texas A&M.
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Putin strikes me as purely Machiavellian, and, yes, a dictator. So no thanks. (And I wouldn’t trust his ‘sincerity’ on any of these issues one whit; he’s seen a wedge to open with the west and he’s calculated how to use that; all designed, of course, to bring more power to himself and global advantage to his kingdom that’s now under re-construction.)
Unfortunately, our U.S. government today reflects the morals and standards of the people being governed. So our problems really go much deeper than our leadership, as sorry a bunch as they seem to be. 😦 😦
That said, this may be a refining time that God is using to bring the (weak) western church back to Him in a more committed and untainted (by the world) way.
A little hardship usually does us all some (spiritual) good, right?
So we should rejoice in whatever God is doing ultimately for His Kingdom (not necessarily our little earthly ‘kingdom’), even when it seems to be so wrong from our vantage point.
He’s up to something. Always and in all things.
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Donna J, Agreed.
It seems He is up to many good things in Asia. I am getting very good reports from missionaries across that continent. I do not think it is a coincidence that Asia is also beginning to dominate the global economy.
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I too am baffled by the support Putin receives and was set to explain my confusion when I read Roscuro’s (and Donna’s) piece and I need not write much else.
One can find agreement with one’s enemy is perfectly valid position. However, I’m not too sure that type of openness is available across the political spectrum. In the lead up to the Iraqi invasion, people were castigated for agreeing with the French (or even Canadians). Secondly, as Roscuro and Donna point out, the sincerity of Putin is to be doubted. Are people so easily misled by their intolerance of certain behaviors that they are willing to cede their democratic rights to a strongman despot who promises to clean up the mess?
I personally abhor Nazi analogies and found the linkage between Crimea and Sudetenland distasteful but the Nazis and other 1930s fascists elsewhere in Europe used that same exact distaste to entice people to vote against democracy. Wiemar Germany made San Francisco look like Sunday school in comparison and good, Christian Germans were manipulated into voting for either the Nazis or the National Party (who allied themselves with the Nazis). Yes, democracy is messy and we sometimes find ourselves ruled by people we dislike but we should be wary of authoritarian solutions which promise to clean things up to our liking.
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HRW, No one is advocating that we invite Putin to rule the US. A number of us have noted that on a critical moral issue he is right and the US is wrong. I would also argue that Putin was right about Iraq, Syria and democracy in the Arab world. He has also refrained from taking actions that were clearly against the interests of his own country like Little Bush’s Iraq invasion or Obama’s policies in Egypt and Syria.
Democracy is not a panacea. It has been a dismal failure throughout Africa, much of Central America, the Middle East and many other developing countries. Hitler rose to power by elections. A democratic republic works well when you combine it with limited government, property rights, the rule of law and an intelligent, educated electorate and a moral citizenry. Right now democratic government in the US is working better than it is in Detroit or Haiti, but not as well as it is in Chile or Estonia.
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Good question, HRW, didn’t people elect Mussolini because he promised the trains would run on time?
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HRW, I think your comparison of San Francisco and Germany between the wars is a good one. There have been few other cases of which I am aware where perverts took over a nation. It has occurred to me that if there ever is a backlash it is likely to be extreme and extremely “unChristian”. Americans are currently being lied to about homosexuality and their children are being brainwashed to be pro-homosexual just as surely as the Hitler Youth were brainwashed.
When Americans discover that Global Warming is a fraud they will be poorer, Gore and his buddies will be rich and the landscape will be dotted with a few worthless windmills. Most Americans can live with that.
When Americans discover that “they were born that way” is a lie (and one that has only recently been invented), they may be very angry about young people who have been drawn into a lifestyle of perversion. At that point they may wish that they had moved their families to Chile or Singapore or even Russia.
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Evidently noting will come of this. I just thought it was interesting. From Drudge:
Lahore (Pakistan) (AFP) – While many children his age are still learning how to crawl, a nine-month-old boy in Pakistan has been accused of attempted murder in a case observers say highlights endemic flaws in the country’s legal system.
Baby Mohammad Musa along with his father and other family members was booked for throwing rocks at gas company officials in the working-class Ahata Thanedaran neighbourhood on February 1, the family’s lawyer Chaudhry Irfan Sadiq told AFP Friday.
Inspector Kashif Muhammad, who attended the alleged crime scene and has since been suspended, wrote in his report that it was a case of attempted murder.
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Seriously, can you image how much longer it would take to get your food if we had politicians working there? Plus the price would go way up and they would probably tell you what you could and couldn’t order. Bad idea! 🙂
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Most people in the world were right about Iraq so we really shouldn’t give Putin any credit here. Unfortunately the people who were wrong about Iraq made the decisions.
Democracy in the the Third World fell victim to the “needs” of the cold war — in the Congo, Chile, Guatemala, etc democratic regimes were overthrown by the US once they were suspected of being too left. Even today, the west doesn’t allow democracy outside of their own sphere — in Venezuela, Ukraine, Honduras,etc the west favored the overthrown of democratically elected regimes when they weren’t sufficiently deferential to the western economic needs. And even within the western democracies, power is being transferred to corporations, banks, and public and private bureaucracies (IMF, etc)
Current scientific research indicates the vast part of our behavior, likes/dislikes, abilities, talents, etc have to do with our genetics not environment. In short we were born that way. And as we accommodate Climate Change and our genetic propensities, society will continue and will probably thrive.
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Chas ….. taking the concept of original sin a little too far.
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HW, in Escape from Camp 14 a story about a North Korean who escaped. The N. Koreans kill three generations of anyone who is convicted of opposition to the President. And to be accused in N. Korea amounts to conviction.
I doubt than anything will come of the Pakistan case.
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HRW, I am afraid I am going to have to concede to your point on Iraq. My father and I (without talking to each other about it) both told my mother before the invasion that if Little Bush invaded Iraq it would be the single stupidest thing a US president had done in our lifetimes. Since LBJ passed Medicare and Medicaid in two separate bills, I will stand by that prediction.
You are straining credibility when you contend that all democratic failures in Africa and other third world countries are due to Western interference. How do you explain Detroit, East St Louis or the District of Columbia? Rational people must concede that some people are not currently fit to govern themselves. Zakaria (no right winger) deals with this issue well in The Future of Freedom. He surveyed countries around the globe and concluded that property rights, the rule of law and some level of education, intelligence and morality among the electorate are necessary for democracy to have a chance to work. He included at least one chapter (which you would like) that deals with the special problems of countries which generate much of their wealth from oil and gas production.
Attached (hopefully) is a link that deals with the “born that way” myth.
Click to access EF10F01.pdf
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Not all democracies..
In fact, conservative UK historian Ferguson has a valid point when he compares and contrasts the colonial legacies of various European countries rightly pointing out the success of the UK colonies in comparison to others. The British left behind the ideas of contract law, property rights, rule by law etc whereas others especially the Belgians (read King Leopolds Ghost and you will realize the Heart of Darkness was based on reality) and the Portuguese. However, this heritage was compromised by the needs of international power politics.
I find it interesting that you think some people are incapable of governing yet won’t accept the idea that some people are born that way. There’s no doubt some people are better than others in terms of governance and management but that’s not a racial or ethnically trait but an individual trait. An interesting study (for which I forgot the name) noted that despite revolutions and gov’t changes, the same families would emerge in charge. Even after Mao’s Long March, Leap Forward, and Cultural Revolution, the elites were largely the same group that existed prior to the revolution. This points to the undemocratic notion that there is a natural aristocracy.
I would also agree with Zakaria that other elements are needed to make democracy work specifically a well educated populace — its this element which gives northern Europe its edge. Combine the undemocratic idea of natural leadership with a well educated populace and you essentially have modern Germany, the Netherlands and Scandinavia. Socialist democracies actually make practical sense for even the elite … unless of course the elite have no intention of living in the country or are content to hide behind gated communities.
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Im sure you realize that I would question your source.
I also question the format — Top Ten Myths. It allows the writer to create false strawman to argue against.
However, the nature vs nurture debate is far too simplistic in both the pamphlet and in my previous comment. People are born inclined towards certain behavior but in almost all cases these behaviors need a trigger and an environmental tolerance.
Myth no 2 is indeed a myth and I don’t think anyone argues for hard and fast behavior types. Most people argue for example that sexuality is a continuum in which people’s sexual behavior can range from gay to straight and everything in between Within their natural inclination on this continuum, environment (or nurture) can play a role in pushing a person in one direction or an other. Those on the extreme ends of the continuum can’t be changed despite nurture’s every attempt.
I don’t know anyone who buys that 10% number anymore. 3-4% is far more common especially in terms of those people who are unequivocally gay whereas the 10% refers to people who may be inclined to think about a gay relations or even have the odd experience.
For number 5, the FRC has to distinguish between cause and effect and they can’t anymore than their detractors. For example, are disorders due to homosexuality or are they due to an individual attempt to repress their sexuality to please others.
For number 6, its difficult to prove its the actual homosexual conduct that creates problems as opposed to being forced to repress or express one’s sexuality in secret.
Number 7 needs more data. I also note the FRC uses biological parents as their baseline … not sure if that an indirect swipe at adoptive parents. But it indicates a problem of too many variables. Controlling variables when judging the effects of human behavior is a problem for most to the “myths” being judged here.
Number 8 is based on self-identification. I’m sure you realize the problem if I had associated Nazism with Catholicism based on the fact most party members self identified as Christians and in particular as Catholics.
number 9 is a myth if you base discrimination on the results not that actual occurrence. also note gay men do well because they have less family responsibilities. However, gay men do suffer from discrimination and violence on the basis of their orientation.
Finally number 10 … are gay male relationships less monogamous because they are gay or because they are both men?? Men are usually less monogamous than women so maybe its not sexual orientation rather gender. Are they less monogamous compared to common law hetrosexual couples or compared to married couples. In other words, is the existence of marriage a varible we need to look at it — perhaps married gay men are faithful but not common law gay men.
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HWR, I also noticed that we were on opposite sides of genetics/ environment when it comes to different issues. I agree with you that British colonial policies were the best. However, British African colonies consistently collapsed into despotism when the British transferred power.
As the FRC piece indicates, there is little scientific support for the “born homosexual” myth. It is a new myth. Homosexuals and their psychiatrists 40 years ago both knew better than to put out such a myth. However, it is a very useful myth for the Pervert Lobby and so it has been spread widely.
I never mentioned race and I never said that places could not evolve and become more or less able to govern themselves. Zakaria connects per capita GDP with the ability to govern oneself. I think it is important to look at intelligence and education, the rule of law, property rights and a moral populace. As Zakaria noted these things are connected to per capita GDP in all places except the oil rich countries. Germans are now better able to govern themselves than they were in 1933. Most places in South America are better able to govern themselves than they were several decades ago. Some places (the US as a whole, Detroit and East St Louis for example) are much less able to govern themselves than they were 60 years ago.
Other places such as Switzerland and Haiti have remained consistent in their ability (or lack thereof) to govern themselves. This is because the Swiss have maintained property rights, the rule of law and an intelligent and well-educated population while Haiti has consistently been without all of these items.
I agree with you that there is probably a natural aristocracy in most countries and I suspect it is based largely on intelligence.
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HRW, You made me laugh out loud. You said the format allowed the FRC writer to “create false strawmen to argue against”. Myth #1 was: “People are born gay.” If that is a strawman, it is the Godzilla of all strawmen since it completely dominates the thinking of liberals in the US, Canada and Western Europe.
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And speaking of global warming …
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/04/global-warming-hysteria-a-retrospective.php
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HRW, Every day in schools, on TV, in movies, books and songs, Myths 1 and 2 are being drilled into the heads of young people in the US, Canada and Western Europe. If you disagree please name a TV show or movie where characters change from gay to straight along a “continuum”. Myths #1 and #2 are really the ones that are critical. Once it is conceded that these are myths as you essentially have done, the “Gay Rights” movement is over. At that point we are just dealing with another form of sexual sin like adultery, fornication, bigamy or prostitution.
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Donna J, A good article. I wonder how “scientists” as a group are going to come out of the Global Warming Hoax/Scam. I was raised to respect scientists. The Global Warming Hoax has revealed that many are either: 1. Not very smart; 2. Cowards; or 3. Intellectual prostitutes.
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Rick, I’m betting on “intellectual prostitutes”. There’s lots of grant money in global warming.
You’re probably too young to remember when we were facing “the coming ice age”. It was real.
Problem is. There is no money for research to do anything about the ice age. No regulations on emissions (though pollution was dealt with), All the scary movies were about atomic meltdowns. That’s why we haven’t built any more nuclear plants.
We didn’t have any pictures of polar bears stranded on ice flows, etc.
Intellectual prostitutes gets my vote. Some may be cowards, more than we suspect.
They’re all pretty smart, and rich. There is money in global warming.
I mentioned recently on another thread: O;Rilley, on FoxNews said, “We need a source of cheap, clean energy.” He was talking about battery cars. (which, BTW are neither cheap nor clean). I said, “There is no cheap, clean energy. It there were, people would be selling it and the government would be taxing and regulating it.” We are faced with a bunch of obstructionist operating under the guise of protecting civilization. While they fly to conferences in Bora Bora in their private jets.
Obama is concerned about climate change. But he has burned more energy, caused more CO2 emissions and cost more money in one trip to Hawaii than I have in my lifetime.
But you guys need to buy small cars, ye hear?
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Chas, My wife (who was formerly your running mate) says you are correct and that I was naive to consider other possibilities.
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HRW, Myth 7’s reference to biological parents is probably more of a swipe at step families and divorced parents.
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As genetics and DNA research continues, it appears nature is winning over nurture. Perhaps 40 years ago there was a debate but all the latest research continues to point toward nature. And even if nurture retains some pull, the issue of morality is still open … why do we see homosexuality as equivalent to adultery especially if its viewed as consenting behaviour between adults.
The rejoinder to your p.o.v. on failed states is to look at the dysfunctional inheritance left by foreign intervention. In Haiti for example experts point to the debt, pure exploitation (prior to the revolt) foreign intervention and environmental degradation. In Africa especially detractors like to point to artificial borders drawn up by Europeans at the end of 19th century for breaking down organic traditional society. As Detroit and other American areas decline, similar analysis are being made — artificial boundaries, exploitation without any long term investments, racial and class divisions etc
The reason any idea has long term currency has to do with intellectual prostitution — the cost for going against any perceived paradigm is huge. Look at military doctrine …. it took millions of lives and a few deviant lower officers to change the mindset of military doctrine during WWI and even then it wasn’t until Rommel and Guderian more or less disobeyed German High Command that military doctrine changed. This occurs in almost any discipline. Of course, this doesn’t mean I think that climate change is a paradigm in need of change. For now, its the best explanation we have based on the evidence. Evidence eventually overwhelms out of date and/or incorrect ideas and so far this hasn’t occurred.
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kbells — you’re probably right but you have to wonder how they could mess that up.
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HRW, With regard to Detroit, do you call a city limits sign an artificial boundary? There are no racial divisions in Detroit. It is virtually 100% black. The exploitation has been by the residents of Detroit. They have taken billions of dollars from the American taxpayers and given nothing back.
We have also pumped billions into Africa and Haiti to no avail. It has been 209 years since the Haitian revolt. They haven’t had a decent government at any time in that entire period. In another thousand years will liberals finally admit Haitians just can’t govern themselves?
We see homosexuality as equivalent to adultery because both are actions between consenting adults that are prohibited by scripture, as are prostitution, incest and bigamy.
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Donna J, Don’t hold your breath waiting for Al Gore to recant. It is true there has been no warming for 16 years, but the liberals are still waiting for “evidence”. 209 years after the Haitian slave revolt, liberals are still waiting for evidence that Haitians can’t govern themselves. When 20% per cent of our population is practicing perversion, we will still be told that they “were all born that way”.
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