I take it that this is the daily thread. I don’t blame you Aj. Tomorrow is Christmas Eve and not much is going on in the political realm anyhow. Not in most of the Christian world. You never know what mischief the rest of the world is cooking up, though.
And most of us are going to be too busy to deal with it.
But it is also Monday. Deal with that too. And Monday isn’t over for Jo either.
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Have you noticed the days are getting longer?
Me neither.
And since I said I may post something occasionally, here’s an interesting one. Looks like some folks, in Chicago of all places, are starting to figure out that electing who they’ve been electing is why they’re in the mess they’re in. This may be their Tea Party moment.
Host: But you are referring to gay people. Why are you so focused on homosexuality?
Pastor: (smiling) With all due respect, you are the one who brought up this subject. …
Host: But do you see why a homosexual watching this might think you are attacking them personally? You’re saying that something is wrong with them.
Pastor: I think Jesus’ teaching on sexuality shows us that there is something wrong with all of us – something that can only be fixed by what Jesus did for us on the cross and in His resurrection. That said, I understand why people might think I am attacking them personally. Most people with same-sex desires believe they were born with these tendencies. That’s why they often see their attraction as going to the very core of who they are, and so they identify themselves with the “gay” label. So whenever someone questions their behavior or desires, they take it as an attack on the very core of their being. That’s usually not the intent of the person who disagrees with homosexual behavior. But that’s the way it is perceived. I understand that. …
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Host: But the problem is, your position fosters hate and encourages bullying.
Pastor: I recognize that some people have mistreated homosexuals in the past. It’s a shame that anyone anywhere would mock, taunt, or bully another human being made in God’s image. That said, I think we need to make one thing clear in regard to civil discourse: To differ is not to hate. …
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Apparently the above link was a conversation envisioned by the author, not an exact transcript of a Piers Morgan show (although his photo was run with the piece) — kind of confusing, he should have made it more clear that this was not an actual show (though it surely sounded like things Morgan is famous for saying, he is rather obsessed with the whole issue of gay marriage, along with gun control 🙂 ).
“We stand at a crossroads. The country must decide. Is the endgame here to be that orthodox Christians will henceforth have no voice within their own culture? If so, does this mean we have become a nation of bullies, forcing conformity while calling it tolerance?”
“Speaking on the issue of tolerance, mega-church pastor and bestselling author Rick Warren observed:
“‘Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.’
“Tolerance is not the same thing as acceptance, and acceptance is not the same thing as an endorsement. The message A&E’s decision sends is that there is zero tolerance on television for Christians who are conscientious objectors to homosexuality. More than that, it implicitly suggests that the campaign for tolerance has advanced to a campaign to pressure 45 percent of Americans to recant their beliefs and endorse a lifestyle to which they are opposed, conscience be damned.”
The Miranda decision was one of the worst decisions of the infamous Warren Court. I would like to see the Court overturn the Miranda case and Roe v Wade.
“… Increasingly, experts in health insurance are becoming concerned that many of these first-time buyers will be in for a shock when they get medical care next year and discover they’re on the hook for most of the initial cost. …
“Hospitals are worried that those who rack up uncovered medical bills next year won’t be able to pay them, perpetuating one of the problems the new health care system is supposed to solve. …”
So rickyweaver, you have no worries about your 5th Amendent rights against self-incrmination? No concerns that police ever, in their understandable urgency to close cases and bring the guilty to justice, sometimes coerce confessions or at the least incriminating statements from innocent suspects?
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I take it that this is the daily thread. I don’t blame you Aj. Tomorrow is Christmas Eve and not much is going on in the political realm anyhow. Not in most of the Christian world. You never know what mischief the rest of the world is cooking up, though.
And most of us are going to be too busy to deal with it.
But it is also Monday. Deal with that too. And Monday isn’t over for Jo either.
🙂
Have you noticed the days are getting longer?
Me neither.
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Chas,
Nope, it’s just the news thread. I still posted the daily one, and a prayer post too.
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And since I said I may post something occasionally, here’s an interesting one. Looks like some folks, in Chicago of all places, are starting to figure out that electing who they’ve been electing is why they’re in the mess they’re in. This may be their Tea Party moment.
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An interview transcript worth reading (Piers Morgan show):
http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2011/10/18/how-i-wish-the-homosexuality-debate-would-go/
Excerpts:
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Host: But you are referring to gay people. Why are you so focused on homosexuality?
Pastor: (smiling) With all due respect, you are the one who brought up this subject. …
Host: But do you see why a homosexual watching this might think you are attacking them personally? You’re saying that something is wrong with them.
Pastor: I think Jesus’ teaching on sexuality shows us that there is something wrong with all of us – something that can only be fixed by what Jesus did for us on the cross and in His resurrection. That said, I understand why people might think I am attacking them personally. Most people with same-sex desires believe they were born with these tendencies. That’s why they often see their attraction as going to the very core of who they are, and so they identify themselves with the “gay” label. So whenever someone questions their behavior or desires, they take it as an attack on the very core of their being. That’s usually not the intent of the person who disagrees with homosexual behavior. But that’s the way it is perceived. I understand that. …
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One more excerpt:
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Host: But the problem is, your position fosters hate and encourages bullying.
Pastor: I recognize that some people have mistreated homosexuals in the past. It’s a shame that anyone anywhere would mock, taunt, or bully another human being made in God’s image. That said, I think we need to make one thing clear in regard to civil discourse: To differ is not to hate. …
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Apparently the above link was a conversation envisioned by the author, not an exact transcript of a Piers Morgan show (although his photo was run with the piece) — kind of confusing, he should have made it more clear that this was not an actual show (though it surely sounded like things Morgan is famous for saying, he is rather obsessed with the whole issue of gay marriage, along with gun control 🙂 ).
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Yes Donna, I was temporarilly confused by that.
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Another excellent piece from the Atlantic:
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/12/the-genuine-conflict-being-ignored-in-the-i-duck-dynasty-i-debate/282587/
“We stand at a crossroads. The country must decide. Is the endgame here to be that orthodox Christians will henceforth have no voice within their own culture? If so, does this mean we have become a nation of bullies, forcing conformity while calling it tolerance?”
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From the Atlantic piece:
“Speaking on the issue of tolerance, mega-church pastor and bestselling author Rick Warren observed:
“‘Our culture has accepted two huge lies. The first is that if you disagree with someone’s lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don’t have to compromise convictions to be compassionate.’
“Tolerance is not the same thing as acceptance, and acceptance is not the same thing as an endorsement. The message A&E’s decision sends is that there is zero tolerance on television for Christians who are conscientious objectors to homosexuality. More than that, it implicitly suggests that the campaign for tolerance has advanced to a campaign to pressure 45 percent of Americans to recant their beliefs and endorse a lifestyle to which they are opposed, conscience be damned.”
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I found this interesting and far more important than a contrived controversy over a reality star violating the public image clause of his contract.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2013/06/salinas_v_texas_right_to_remain_silent_supreme_court_right_to_remain_silent.html
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The Miranda decision was one of the worst decisions of the infamous Warren Court. I would like to see the Court overturn the Miranda case and Roe v Wade.
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More on obamacare:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/22/health-care-prices_n_4490466.html
“… Increasingly, experts in health insurance are becoming concerned that many of these first-time buyers will be in for a shock when they get medical care next year and discover they’re on the hook for most of the initial cost. …
“Hospitals are worried that those who rack up uncovered medical bills next year won’t be able to pay them, perpetuating one of the problems the new health care system is supposed to solve. …”
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So rickyweaver, you have no worries about your 5th Amendent rights against self-incrmination? No concerns that police ever, in their understandable urgency to close cases and bring the guilty to justice, sometimes coerce confessions or at the least incriminating statements from innocent suspects?
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