Our Daily Thread 11-19-13

Good Morning!

On this day in 1863 President Lincoln delivered his Gettysburg Address as he dedicated a national cemetery at the site of the Civil War battlefield in Pennsylvania.

In 1893 the first newspaper color supplement was published in the Sunday New York World.

In 1919 the U.S. Senate rejected the Treaty of Versailles with a vote of 55 in favor to 39 against.  A two-thirds majority was needed for ratification.

In 1954 two automatic toll collectors were placed in service on the Garden State Parkway in New Jersey.     

In 1977 Egyptian President Anwar Sadat became the first Arab leader to set foot in Israel on an official visit. 

And in 1998 the impeachment inquiry of President Clinton began.

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Quotes of the Day

“I believe that a long step toward public morality will have been taken when sins are called by their right names.”

“Try praising your wife, even if it does frighten her at first.” 🙂

Billy Sunday

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Slim pickings in the birthday category today. Unless you want Guns n Roses….

Yeah, me neither. 🙂

So we’ll start with some BB King from 1971. On today’s date he celebrated his 25th year in the music industry. And who’s that young fella introducing him?

Today in 1993 Nirvana recorded it’s MTV Unplugged concert. Not really a fan, (except for Dave Grohl) but I do like this cover song from the concert.

And then another from Mr. King, with help from another great musician.

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Anyone have a QoD?

50 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 11-19-13

  1. Sweet, Aj posted early. It is only 9:48 pm here. Had a nice Bible study tonight. Raining here again. as it does most days at some time. Yet it is usually in the 70’s.

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  2. Today is also the day in 1959 when the last Edsel rolled off the assembly line.

    Brian defended his thesis yesterday. An important milestone. He says it went well, they gave him some suggestions, now he has to write it. Another part of the taskj.

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  3. It is a bit chilly here this morning. Dogs are fed, coffee is made, and Amos has moved from the bed to the back of the leather club chair to nap. Lulu may have gotten bored and returned to her kennel.

    Sweet Baby Boy turned ONE on Sunday. We obviously were not able to attend his birthday party but we sent gifts. Grandpa found a hand painted chair with Noah’s Ark and animals painted on it. I found a Christmas outfit for him to have his picture taken, a plate to leave cookies out for Santa, and a book–Guess How Much I Love You. The chair was the hassle to pack and ship. It cost a small fortune. His Mommy said he loved playing in the giant box. I told her for Christmas we will just ship a giant, empty box…He will be just as pleased. I may send a pot and some wooden spoons!

    Life continues to be good.
    Congratualtions to Brian.

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  4. QOD
    How do you explain your participation on this blog (and to World before this) to the people in your “real life”?

    To me, most of you are as real of friends as the ones I can be in physical proximity to. I come here to check in, to share my thoughts, to catch up with you. I can drink my coffee and chat with you. It doesn’t take away from the people around me…it just adds another layer to those I know and love.

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  5. Kim said about the empty box. “He will be just as pleased”. More true than you realize. When Chuck was a toddler, I was amazed by all the things you can do with an empty coffee can.
    You can bang it on things.
    You can sit on it.’
    You can holler into it.
    You can throw it.
    And some other things I can’t remember right away.

    They’re going to have a memorial of some sort for Kennedy’s assasination Friday. The Times-News took a poll 95% are not going. I am one of them. The newspaper says, “Jackie tried to inspire a new generation”. That is not true at all. Jackie wanted to marry a man who whould suppport her lifestyle. That was her ambition. She cared nothing about a new generation. Nothing at all.

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  6. I don’t explain my participation here. Which, you all know, is considerable. I tell Elvera about some thngs. She is well aware of the blog. Other times, I might say, “This man/woman I blog with said, ……….” That’s about it. I suspect nobody cares.

    Every morning, I come in, check my mail, then the blog, sometimes before I read the mail, unless something important. You all know I read Brian’s post before I cam here, but nothing else.

    😦 TSWITW came in and said, “The (flourescent) lights in the laundry room are flickering and won’t come on.” Just like that.
    Her problem becomes mine.
    Off to Lowe’s sometime this morning.

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  7. You are correct Chas, Jackie had the blood lines and family connections to lend some respectablility to a bunch of bootlegging thugs.
    She is famous for saying, “If you bungle raising your children, I don’t think whatever else you do matters very much.” Just exactly what did she do to be mother of the year? She put them in boarding school and gallavanted around Europe spending Ari Onassis’ money.
    I, along with everyone else am fascinated by the mystique but realize their was an imperpect human underneath it all. Neither of them deserve to be sainted.

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  8. Good Morning, Y’all!
    I am much like Kim…y’all are friends I just don’t see in person. I often share stories from the blog with my family and they have become used to that.

    I am often surprised to find that someone from WV is not really that far away geographically…

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  9. I’ve never been an admirer of the Kennedys. I think it was JFK who made style over substance the norm in American politics. He was a very overrated president. If he hadn’t been shot, he would have ranked somewhere with Jimmy Carter. When I worked with Catholics I had to keep that to myself. They are still very proud of him.

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  10. KFK handled the Cuban Missisle Crisis exactly the correct way.
    We never would have gotten mired in VietNam under Kennedy.
    I’m not sure whether the Great Society originated with Kennedy or Johnson. JFK never would have done the damage LBJ did. Desegregation started under Ike and would likely would have proceeded more peacefully under Kennedy. The Kennedys were not Camelot, but they had class.
    Johnson had no class at all.

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  11. You all are my “online friends”, ones that I blog with. 🙂 And I’m very thankful for each one of you!

    Again, I’m learning stuff of American history (JFK) that I just didn’t know before.

    Another 5 inches of snow this morning and still coming down. It’s so very beautiful outside and I don’t have to go anywhere today.

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  12. I fixed the lights in the laundry room without going to Lowes. 🙂

    “Your faith forms the heart and soul of what you are. Faith in people, things, ideologies, and concepts to a large extent determine how you spend your life.” Ed McMinn in Daily Devotions for the Die Hard Fan. In this case the Gamecocks.

    True, people who don’t have a faith in something, have no foundation for life. McMinn goes on of course, talking about faith in a team, friends and family, but ultimately in Christ.
    “Faith in Jesus does more than shape your life, it determines your eternity.”

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  13. It is purely nice to be able to visit with Christian friends all over the nation at one spot on a daily basis. The language here is not spiked with curse words like I hear frequently in the rest of my life. I enjoy being a life long learner, and I look forward to daily learning something here from AJ’s thoughtful research or the posts of others. I also have a heart to pray for people, although at times I do feel overwhelmed by the needs I see and hear of in the world, so this believing group of prayer warriors add umph! to prayer. “Where two or three are gathered…” A loving spirit is evident at this website even if people at times disagree.

    Sunday evening at church we sang the hymn, “They’ll Know We Are Christians By Our Love.” It could be the theme song of this blog. 🙂 Love y’all!

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  14. I see on Drudge where Maria Bartiroma is leaving CNBC for Fox Business News. The green room must be a place for magic. Maria Bartiroma looks as good as she ever did. Ahd she has been around since I was a child.’

    Leastwise, it seems that way.
    😉

    She may have to color her hair blonde for Fox.

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  15. I appreciate many things about my WorldMagBlog friends–many of whom I interact with now on FB. For example, I just sent a link to Cameron about Common Core information. Horrifying stuff. Maybe I’ll link the article here if you need more to get depressed about:

    The author of this article is a co-godmother with me. Very sobering stuff, particularly if you like to read novels, stories, myths, poetry or anything else that isn’t dry scientific information.

    Click to access 2013%20Journal%20-%20Gangi%20and%20Reilly%20-%20Laying%20Bare%20of%20Questions.pdf

    As a former journalist, I’ve used you guys for years to obtain information about Christianity in parts of the country far from where I live on the outskirts of Sodom and Gomorrah. You’ve informed me–sometimes in horrifying ways–about the differences in Christianity.

    One of our former posters caused me to write an entire 50K word spiritual memoir in defense of my beliefs (BTW, it’s been examined by five different publishers who like the writing, but since I lack a platform–that would be 50K hits on my website a MONTH–I’m not a good candidate for publishing it)

    You’ve helped me appreciate other parts of the country, kept me entertained, stretched my spiritual life, given me plenty to pray and think about late into the night and enriched my life.

    I also appreciate the support many of you have given my writing. Does anyone need a bookplate before Christmas? 🙂

    Thank you. My husband even knows some of you by name . . . 🙂

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  16. You folks are like family and close friends, except you’re not crazy like my real one. 🙂

    Seriously, I’ve “known” some of you for a decade and longer. We’ve shared good things, bad things, heartaches, love, kindness, advice, and pray for one another regularly. Sounds like family and/or good friends to me.

    I’ve had some ask me about it. I tell them to pay us a visit and lurk. It doesn’t take long to see the appeal. Most of them still visit, even though they don’t chime in. Once they visit a few times, they get the appeal it has.

    And that appeal is you folks. You’re an interesting bunch. 🙂

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  17. I’ve given a couple of people our address and told them to lurk around a while, then join the fray. But I haven’t seen them yet. Bev, Lerow, say something if you’re around here.

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  18. I don’t know, AJ, I think some of us lean toward ‘crazy’ from time to time. 😉

    michelle said it all eloquently in her 3rd graph from the end of her post, I think. You are “friends or a friend from a Christian blog” when I mention something about you to someone else. I don’t think I’ve ever tried to actually explain what this place is. 🙂

    The Kennedys liked dogs: http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/aAcxn-ooZEiV7ovmI9TihQ.aspx

    And they sure were pretty (JFK and Jacqueline). I think we women notice that more, probably.

    Her marriage to Onassis was a big deal, as I recall, and put a real crimp in her reputation in the U.S. where she was still revered and looked up to.

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  19. I am here for many of the same reasons the rest of you are. I don’t try to explain it to anyone. If they go on blogs, they understand some of the reasons others do it. I had a daughter who was here, before we got HERE, if you get my drift. She understands who I am talking about. 🙂 My husband hears about some of you and various comments or things I learn.

    I have had friends who have put down others for being on the computer. Some of them have a hard time putting down their own phones now. I don’t have one of ‘those’ phones, so I do not go on any sites from mine. It just makes me chuckle. Beware of what you don’t understand–you might be doing it one day, too!

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  20. QoD- I do what Chas does, and just say, “I read on a blog…” But you all are my on-line friends, since I don’t do Facebook or Twitter. I have a Google+ since one of my emails is a gmail account, but only two of my daughters are in my circle. I just don’t have time for a lot of social networking, so I come here once or twice a day when I’m busy, or more often on weekends. I did go to the old WMB more often, but there were more people on it, so more discussions. 100 posts per thread were the norm instead of the exception.

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  21. Another part to the QoD could be: Have you met anyone here or from the old WMB face to face?

    Have only met Pauline and her husband, and almost got a chance to meet Karen O and her husband last summer. Once we were visiting some friends where we used to live and got to talking about World Magazine, and I mentioned I got on the blog. The teenaged boy in the room said he read it regularly and liked what I posted. I don’t know if he reads this blog. (G.- if you are here, say something!)

    I also remember some of you have met each other, like Chas and one or two, Mumsee has met Kim, Roscuro-Phos and a few others, etc.

    Maybe what we need is a WV convention.

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  22. I mentioned pay walls here a while back — out newspaper chain (2nd largest in the country) has stood against them on principle, out of the belief that access should be open and free for readers.

    But, alas, now we’re joining the pay wall trend, apparently. The announcement came yesterday. We’ll see how it affects readership. Digital advertising simply does not pull in very much revenue. It’s not as promising as it once appeared, and newspapers need some kind of revenue.

    I think pay walls would have been a wonderful idea — 15 years ago and if we all did it. But no one figured that out back then. We all rushed to put up free websites, not realizing how in the long run we were basically shooting ourselves in the foot. People became very accustomed to getting everything for free online.

    My concern about instituting pay walls now is that people have had free access to web content for way too long. Personally, I resist paying for content and will just try to find what I need elsewhere or live without reading it.

    But for my company’s sake (and for all of us who work there), I hope I’m wrong.

    http://newsonomics.com/as-digital-first-media-announces-its-paywalls-41-of-us-dailies-will-soon-have-them/

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  23. I don’t think you’re wrong Donna. Much as I hate it, newspapers will have to figure out some other way of bringing in revenue. Or else all of you will have to get together to change thing back so it’s not “free” content.

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  24. I used to tell people, “I post on WORLD’s blog,” and they all knew what WORLD was. When we transferred here, I told my husband “the blog that replaced WORLD’s” and now I just say “the blog.” When I’m mentioning it to someone else, I just say “a blog I follow” or “one of my online friends.” My husband knows some of you by name (Mumsee, for example) and some of you I’ll briefly explain who the person is (Donna is my online journalist friend).

    I really didn’t think this blog would “take off.” I thought that once WORLD closed down, we’d come on here for a little while and it would fizzle out. But you all were my friends, and I was going to come on here until it fizzled out.

    Several years ago I chose you instead of Facebook (I didn’t have time for both), and I figured once this one fizzled out I might go back to Facebook. I haven’t.

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  25. I refer to all of you as my online friends, as opposed to my real-life friends. Third Arrow (16-year-old dear daughter) takes an interest in what is going on here, and will ask me fairly regularly, “So what’s going on at Wandering Views today? Any prayer requests?” She knows many of you by the name you use here, and enjoys hearing some of the WV stories I share with her. (I should say, she enjoys all the stories I share; I just don’t share all of them.)

    Everybody else is just sort of, whatever, about the blog.

    I haven’t met any of you yet. I think Kim wins the prize for having met the most people here. She is scheming to get me to save some money and come to the beach next September/October. I’m still trying to figure out the logistics of that, since I haven’t gotten out of a three-state region in my neck of the woods in over 20 years. 😉

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  26. I’ve met Cheryl and michelle … I ought to meet Adios, she’s so close … I’ve talked to mumsee & Kim on the phone so I know they’re real. Or at least I think they’re real people.

    I know several of you also via fb — which adds a dimension via personal photos, etc.

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  27. There is at least one “real” here!

    I sometimes have mentioned certain ones by name, such as Kim who gave me the cranberry stuff recipe my husband likes. I mostly have spoken about y’all to either my husband or son (when son was at home, which has not been lately). And sometimes I will share funny videos or music with people here at the office and say I got it off the blog I read or from the lady who writes the pet column in LA (I know you have vastly expanded now, Donna).

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  28. But MakeItMan you do remember what had to happen to the Velveteen Rabbit in order for him to become REAL? He had to lose part of his stuffing and all of his fur had been loved off.

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  29. Going back to yesterday’s discussion of soda/pop/Coke, I noticed that both the maps Donna and Cheryl linked had only those three choices, and I wonder if it would look different if “soft drink” was a choice. Behind the map Cheryl linked you can see the actual survey numbers they use, and “Other” outnumbers the other three in many states, including Michigan, to my surprise.

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  30. I’ve met three WORLD bloggers in real life. (One hasn’t made the switch to this blog, unless it’s as a lurker.) I’ve checked with four other bloggers about the possibility of meeting in real life (when it seemed we might be in each other’s area), but none of those came together. I have e-mail addresses for several people here.

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  31. Morning all, 7am here. I mention a blog that I am on.
    I think of you all as friends. I am so isolated here and my family is too busy to communicate much. Can’t even go outside without driving after 6:30, when it gets dark. It is hard that you all are pretty silent during my evenings. Have to get off to school soon, time for breakfast.

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  32. Thanks for the article posting, Janice, that is the way it is and we recommend Nancy Thomas as her ways are very similar to ours and have been a great encouragement to us. Good article. Should be required reading for those thinking of adoption. And hopefully the myth of adopting a baby being the solution will be shut down. Babies do suffer from RAD and it seems to be less anticipated because “we got her straight from the hospital”. I prefer adopting older children because it is a whole lot easier. Not to say it is easy.

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  33. I come here because I like you folks. It gives me a pleasant break when things get stressful. You hold us up in prayer and I can return the favor. You all are encouraging. I speak of you as the folks on the blog. The children enjoy many of the links that I show them. Thanks, the real.

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  34. Mumsee, it was very interesting to me to see that article at the point of being almost finished with the Badeau book which is 500 pages long. It’s all about the joys and tribulations of adopting special needs children. It seems that almost all the girls, maybe all the girls, they adopted happened to get pregnant out of wedlock which was a huge disappointment to the Badeau parents because they raised the children with Christian values. They also chose to adopt a few children who would die young because of their diseases. I really enjoyed seeing all the different traditions the family had such as Easter baskets with items for lessons about Jesus instead of the usual candy and toys. The weddings they did were each unique, too. At one the bride had a release of butterflies. It is an interesting book not only to see all the traditions and ways of management, but also because of Sue Badeau’s advocacy for adoption and foster children.

    If you’d like, Mumsee, I can mail the book to you. I think Kim, Cheryl and Michelle still have my email address if you want to send your address to me through them or if you want to put your email address on here I will email you from that.

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  35. Thanks, Janice, and I appreciate the offer but I already ordered it upon your recommendation. I was in desperate need of encouragement, and that looked like just the thing.

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  36. I missed the discussion on soda/pop/Coke/soft drinks yesterday. My husband and I grew up in the same state, in neighboring counties. He calls it soda, I call it pop. (I see both are “pop” counties as labeled on the map Cheryl posted yesterday.)

    I did, though, growing up, have a cat named “Sodapop”. 😉

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  37. I refer to you all as my friends from “the blog”.

    Remember the day when it was announced on the World blog that they were doing away with the open threads, & only subscribers would be able to comment? A few of us admitted to getting teary-eyed about it. And then A.J. rescued us all before the day was out. 🙂

    At dinner that night, I tried explaining all that to my husband & daughters. Of course, they were familiar with my participation on the World blog, & had heard many stories I’d shared. But they thought we were all kind of nuts for taking the World announcement so hard.

    I appreciate you all very much, & am grateful to A.J. for the work he puts into this blog.

    As for the new World site, I tried keeping up with it, but it was too much in addition to these threads & Facebook. (I still read the print magazine, though.)

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  38. Yep, Karen, I’ll never forget that announcement. I was one of the teary-eyed ones. I paced on my driveway, with tears in my eyes, wishing it weren’t so. I’d only started commenting three months before that, after about a year of lurking.

    It was a welcome relief when AJ started this blog!

    I still have a print subscription, too, but I hardly ever read print copies of magazines and books anymore — I like reading online better, for some reason. I just decided last week, though, that I was being wasteful letting all those World magazines go virtually unread since getting internet at home almost three years ago now. I used to read them cover-to-cover (well, not all the ads, but all the articles), but by about 6 months after getting internet I had all but stopped reading them.

    I hated to throw out two years of magazines I’d paid for but never read, but it was overwhelming to think about reading all of them starting at this late date.

    So I compromised, and starting last week, I’ve been going through three of them a day, selecting a few articles from each magazine that especially stand out to me, reading them, clipping the really good ones (or keeping the whole magazine if it’s really outstanding or unique — like the year-end issues), and then tossing the rest of the mag.

    It will take me about three weeks to go through them that way, but I can live with that. No more huge stack of unread magazines, and no more worries about throwing away something expensive (and that has value to me, also) without having utilized it in a meaningful way.

    And when I finish that project, hopefully I will have established a habit (don’t they say it takes 21 days to develop a good habit, or is it 28?) in reading a little every day out of my World magazines so I don’t get so far behind again.

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  39. Must get 49!
    I hadn’t been on World for a little while since I was on a trip and then my computer was stolen. I was horrified to find you were all gone. You were my other family. I emailed and told them I felt like I had lost part of my family and they sent me this link. What a blessing.

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