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Our Daily Thread 9-6-13

Good Morning!

It’s Friday! 🙂

On this day in 1620 the Pilgrims left on the Mayflower from Plymouth, England to settle in the New World.

In 1819 Thomas Blanchard patented a machine called the lathe. 

In 1899 Carnation processed its first can of evaporated milk.

In 1941 Jews in German-occupied areas were ordered to wear the Star of David with the word “Jew” inscribed.

In 1943 the youngest player to appear in an American League baseball game was pitcher Carl Scheib of the Philadelphia Athletics. Scheib was 16 years, eight months and five days old.

And in 1959 the first Barbie Doll was sold by Mattel Toy Corporation. My mother owns one.

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Quote of the Day

“Did you know babies are nauseated by the smell of a clean shirt?”

Jeff Foxworthy

That would explain the mess. 🙂

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Today is Matt Stanfield’s birthday. So here’s Plumb, who he’s played with.

And also here’s a piece written by Matt, and performed by Norm Hastings.

On this day in 1968 Eric Clapton joined the Beatles in the recording studio to record “While My Guitar Gently Weeps.” The Beatles rarely had anyone else play on any of their albums.

So I found a mash up version with just about all of them.

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Anyone have a QoD?

54 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 9-6-13”

  3. Good morning everyone. I had a good evening last night. I wrote an offer on a house for some friends and will deliver it to the other agent today. Here is hoping all works well. It is a great house.

    I had a nice conversation with a good Christian friend last night. I think encouraging for both of us.
    I have lots to do today so everyone have a good time

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  4. It’s Finally Friday!
    Looks like everyone is off to a good start.
    But 40 degrees???
    Seems like every time I have to correct my sign in.
    Maybe next time I’ll go incognito.
    Then no one would know.
    😉

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  5. 40 degrees?!? It’s a balmy 85 here this morning, with the high expected to reach 98. We won’t see 40 degrees for months! L. is having her 14th birthday party on the 14th of this month and we plan on swimming (as well as not slumbering…).

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  6. Hubby is in San Diego for the last day. He says they are all complaining about how hot it’s been. In the 80’s. As I’ve said before when it gets that cool down here we make Chilli.

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  9. My question of the day. Once posed and variously answered at worldmagblog. IS ATHEISM A RELIGIOUS BELIEF? Caution. This may be a trick question, and perhaps was slipped into my demented mind by the Father of Lies.

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  10. I forgot to click the “follow up notify” so I am clicking or ticketing here. BTW, I have volunteered for the island sheriff’s department, so even though it’s not within my responsibilities, I might, just for the hell of it, ticket you if I see you driving on our island with a religious license plate holder or an “I Heart JESUS” sticker, or some such. Our hens peck hello to you, also.

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  11. Is Atheism a religious belief? Well it depends on how you define religion.

    It’s definitely a world view. People who adhere to it’s dogma claim to know that God does not exist. There are also militant atheists who preach said dogma and evangelize others’ to that point of view.

    You also say you attend a church-like gathering of atheists…

    So is it a religion?

    You tell me.

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    • I can’t prove there is no God. Any more than you can prove there is a God. I believe the world I experience through my empirical senses exists, so I think empiricism is as close as we get to truth. I tolerate religious believers. Some of them tolerate me; and some of them are intolerant toward me. I demand tolerance on grounds that atheism is my religious belief.

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  12. Good morning everyone. It was 74 degrees this morning when I drove into work. It is supposed to get up to 95 today. Cindi and I are going out to Lexington Oklahoma tomorrow. I have to pay my gunsmith. He is working on the trigger and getting it set for a 3 1/2 lb pull and putting a muzzle brake on the barrel. After a visit to the gunsmith, we are going to stop at the Pecan Store. Cindi has developed a taste for roasted pecans; plus, they have dried pineapple there. She likes that too.

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  14. Sounds like a great trip, Joe.
    I know you’re glad to have her with you.

    Some athiests want to claim that atheism is a religious belief in order to use the first amendment against religion.
    However, athiesm is an absence of religion. They adhere to nothing, nihilism.
    Therefore, it can’t, properly speaking, be a religion because a religion adheres to something.

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  15. Atheism is a belief system.

    KBells, we whine in San Diego if we go a few ticks below or above 72. And your hubby must be really amused that we think it’s humid here today.

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  17. If atheism is not a religion, why should I be tolerated? My morality is based on evolution. I don’t murder, torture, rape, or steal (the latter most of the time and not very much). I have helped people. I call myself an ethical nihilist. That’s my branch of my religion. If you tell me “atheism can’t” [be a religion] and I say I define my atheism as a religious belief, who gets to decide the matter? Our chickens?

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  18. Fine with me if you want to define atheism as a religion. Just don’t be outraged by my moral beliefs or my world view.

    Why not?

    Because in your world view every thing is relative, not absolute. According to you, my religious beliefs, world view, and moral system evolved right along side yours. Since your world view takes a relative view of moral system, you have no logical basis for having or not having a moral system. I’m NOT saying you can’t have morals. Certainly you can. I’m saying you have no logical basis for a moral system since everything is relative.
    Since you have no logical basis for your moral system, then you have no basis for moral outrage at my moral system or world view. It evolved right along side yours.

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  19. We “tolerate” you because we loveyou Random. We accept your non-religion just the same as we accept a false religion. It’s all the same to us.
    You can’t claim to be religions, because you define yourself as non-religious. You have done that several times.

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  22. Random,

    I don’t think it is, but the federal govt (DOJ) does, and is now giving “clergy” tax benefits to atheists so…….

    I love the irony though, an atheist sues to try and force the govt to take taxs breaks away from real clergy, and ends up getting them too, instead of real clergy losing them. Funny that. 🙂

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/08/26/Atheists-seek-end-to-clergy-home-tax-break/UPI-83281377548616/

    “The U.S. Justice Department says in a legal filing leaders of an atheist group qualify for the same housing tax exemption priests receive.

    The paradoxical position comes in response to a lawsuit by the Freedom from Religion Foundation in Madison, Wis., which seeks to end the parsonage tax break granted to priests, ministers, rabbis and other clergy by the U.S. government. The tax break allows them to claim part of their income as a tax-free housing allowance.”

    “In response, the federal government said rather than agree to end the parsonage exemption it could be extended to Gaylor because she is the leader of a religious movement — albeit one that does not believe in God.

    Legal maneuvering aside, Gaylor told The (Nashville) Tennessean the government has missed the point of her lawsuit — not to mention the fundamental difference between her atheist group and a religious order.”

    So in answer to your question…. maybe. 🙂

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  23. Good brunch time. I just had a yogurt snack. When I picked up the Oikos they were clearing the shelves of Chobani. I also stopped by a local spot and picked up a Gone With the Wind postcard.

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  24. KBells about our Southern California heat wave “in the 80s … as I’ve said before when it gets that cool down here we make Chilli.”

    An L.A. website posted something on our spate of heat and (for us) humidity las night. Funniest line in the story was a plaintive “Why is this happening to us?”

    I was interviewing a couple women yesterday on a story and one was from Atlanta, the other from somewhere in PA, and both were marveling at how wonderful our weather was yesterday, not hot or humid at all, they said. I was sweltering, of course.

    I agree with Adios that atheism is a belief system (if not a religion per se). Everyone believes something. Everyone has an authority to which they answer and, if you will, and even worship (in this case themselves).

    Today I’m covering the long-awaited homecoming of our local Boston Marathon survivor, the last to be released from treatment on the east coast. They fly in late today and are going to be be honored at an informal reception at a Mexican restaurant run by one of their nephews near the beach.

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  25. It’s Friday!

    And in case you missed it last night, I posted a college football contest. I see several have posted their guesses. If you missed it, or don’t want to go back to yesterday’s thread, here it is again.

    ~~~~SPORTS POST~~~~ You have been warned.

    Good Afternoon one and all. I decided to try out the College Football “Just-for-Fun” Contest. Those of you new to this, here are the rules: Guess the winner of each of the games below. For a tie breaker, guess the winner and the score of the last one, which is Arizona @ UNLV. The overall winner of each week gets a virtual high-five from the rest of us. Your guess must be posted here before noon on Saturday. I’ll re-post this tomorrow (Friday- or maybe AJ could do it for me when he posts the thread, since I sometimes don’t get here until Friday afternoons). Use any method you want for picking- logical or not. If you ladies want to look up the uniforms of the various teams to see which one is the most fashionable, that’s fine by me. Or if you like the team colors (BTW- Arizona is Cardinal Red and Blue). I mostly chose games involving Top 25 teams that most likely will not be blowouts (though this early in the season those are hard to find), as well as teams from states I know of where people on this blog live (but Alabama isn’t playing this week, so Auburn represents that state this time around- hard to please both kbells and Kim 😉 ). Notice that South Carolina has three teams in the contest. I hope that doesn’t make anyone jealous. Anyway, here are the games this week. (For info on the teams, should you need it, go to http://espn.go.com/college-football/teams .

    #2 Oregon @ Virginia
    So Carolina St. @ #4 Clemson
    #6 So Carolina @ #11 Georgia
    #12 Florida @ Miami FL
    #14 Notre Dame @ #17 Michigan
    Arkansas St @ Auburn
    Indiana St @ Purdue
    Tennesee-Martin @ Boise St
    #15 Texas @ BYU
    Tie breaker: Winner and score of Arizona @ UNLV

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  26. I also see that some of the ladies who are more into pets than manly things are confused by numbers. (It is tempting to say something about girls and math, but since Mrs L was a math major, I won’t.)

    Here is an example: #2 Oregon @ Virginia

    The numbers are the current national ranking according to the AP (Associated Press) poll. Does that help?

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  34. Lulabelle went back to the shelter yesterday to be spade. I was amazed at how small the incision is. She also has three little blue dots tatooed on her tummy. This is now common practice to let vets shelters know that an animal has been spade to avoid unneccessary surgery.
    Did any of you know that? I didn’t.

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  38. Four old golfers were discussing their game at the nineteenth hole. One said, “I had eight rides”, another said, I just had seven rides”, another said, “Well, I had twelve rides.” The other said, “I had fifteen rides.”
    When it was over, a guy who had heard the discussion said to one of them. “I thought I knew all the golf jargon. But what is this bit about “the rides”.
    The guy answered. “That’s when you hit the ball far enough that you ride out for the next swing.”

    😆

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  39. Kim — Amen to good conversation with a fine Christian friend. A definite encouragement. 😉

    I went to Bible study this morning, and afterward made a few stops looking for a postcard featuring my state. None of those places had any, but the friendly customer service lady at our local grocery store told me she would make a few calls while I was doing my shopping to places in our town that she thought might have one. After calling four places and coming up empty-handed, she told me that she knew of a place that did have them, which is about a half-hour away in the largest city in our section of the state.

    Well, guess what? First Arrow goes to school in that city, so I called him, and he drove over after class to the business that had the postcards, picked one up, and brought it home. So if you’ll email me the address where I should send it, your goddaughter will have a postcard from my neck of the woods, too. 🙂

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  41. Walgreens….they have postcards!! who knew?! I thought I would have to drive down to the touristy parts of Colorado Springs, but, I stopped in Walgreens in Monument, which is only 20 minutes away…and they had a whole selection of Colorado postcards! And the post office is right next to Walgreens…got it all done in a few minutes….! So glad your postcard hunt worked out for you 6Arrows….
    It is stinkin’ hot here again…no relief until next week it seems….these 90 degree days are making people here crazy!!

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  44. Thanks for mentioning Walgreens. I looked at CVS last night and they had no postcards. I wanted to get one of that big piece of granite in my neck of the city. Before things got so grown up with trees and all, when I was young, we could see Stone Mountain in the large mirror in the living room in the home where I grew up.

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  45. Chas- I just noticed your post where you said, “Another thing about the NIV. It misinterprets John 1:16.” So I checked Bible Gateway. The NIV reads “Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given,” which seems like a paraphrase of the KJV there, since the KJV has “And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.” I like the NASB reading on that one: “For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace.” I don’t know Greek, so what does it say that makes you think the NIV is a misinterpretation that the KJV doesn’t imply?

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  46. Most of the ladies on her understand the national rankings.

    Here are my picks:

    Oregon over Ol’ Virginny
    Clemson over SC St.
    Gorgia over S. Carolina.
    A Hurricane will swamp the Gators
    The Domers with top the Wolverines
    The War Eagle will cry victory over Arkansas St.
    The Boilermakers will win this friendly
    Boise (Go Broncos!!!) over Tennesee Martin (Who’s Martin?)
    Texas over BYU
    and AZ will win 35-14 over the Runnin Rebels

    USC will also win in their home opener at the Coliseum. The Spirit of Troy will play Tusk and Conquest, the smell of bacon dogs and street tacos will hang in the air, but I will miss it all as I paddle out on the north shore of Kauai.

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  49. Peter, my NIV says: “From the fullness of his grace we have all received one blessing after another”.
    V 17 explains that the law was given by Moses, but grace came through Jesus Christ.
    Therefore, it is apparent that God provided a grace through the law. However, in Christ Jesus he has replaced that grace with another grace. i.e. KJV, “grace for grace”.
    It just struck me the wrong way when I read it.
    Just as the “look” replacement of “behold” seems wrong to me.
    I agree that we need a more readable Bible than the KJV, but we shouldn’t dumb down the Bible.

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  52. I never thought of Walgreen’s, NancyJill. Great you found a postcard there and could just head right over to the post office! I enjoyed the hunt for a postcard, though, and I didn’t go out of my way at all. First Arrow didn’t mind going to pick up the one I found out about, either; in fact, he seemed to enjoy it! He found a nice one with a picture of one of the natural features in our area of the state, and another natural scene in a small picture on the reverse side of the card. Made me smile. 🙂

    Mumsee, speaking of natural scenes, you asked me about the book I’m reading, Last Child in the Woods: Saving Our Children from Nature-Deficit Disorder, by Richard Louv. I haven’t finished yet, but I read chapter 16 tonight and kind of liked this last sentence of the chapter: “An environment-based education movement — at all levels of education — will help students realize that school isn’t supposed to be a polite form of incarceration, but a portal to the wider world.”

    It was interesting, too, that I was reading the book The Shallows: What the Internet is Doing to Our Brains, by Nicholas Carr, at the same time I’ve been reading the above-mentioned book. This from the end of Carr’s book went along so well with what is being discussed in Last Child…: “A series of psychological studies over the past twenty years has revealed that after spending time in a quiet rural setting, close to nature, people exhibit greater attentiveness, stronger memory, and generally improved cognition. Their brains become both calmer and sharper. The reason, according to attention restoration theory, or ART, is that when people aren’t being bombarded by external stimuli, their brains can, in effect, relax. They no longer have to tax their working memories by processing a stream of bottom-up distractions. The resulting state of contemplativeness strengthens their ability to control their mind.”

    Both are interesting books. I might give you little snippets from Louv’s book now and then in the next couple weeks before I need to return it to the library. I only have seven chapters left, so hopefully I should be able to finish it in the next fourteen days… 🙂

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  53. Behold, I like charcoal gray, too! Decisions, decisions.

    But my dad was Navy so I’ll have to stick with that. And I may live in or near Boise someday, so them too.

    I found post cards at CVS & Rite Aid, but not a huge selection. I was going to mail mine today but was so crazy-busy I didn’t get it done. Tomorrow.

    Is it cheating if I send 2 (Los Angeles and California)?

    Got to finally meet our survivor of the Boston Marathon tonight — big patio reception at a mexican cafe their nephew manages at the beach. I feel like I know them, we’ve talked by phone and I’ve probably done at least 4 major stories since the catastrophe. Nice to finally meet face to face. 🙂 Lots of TV cameras there, too, and the Boston Globe did a nice write up on them today, marking their departure after 5 months. And Sunday’s their 46th wedding anniversary.

    I also passed on a few pages from our church bulletin in a personal envelope to them — the corporate prayer request pages that tracked his condition from when he was literally ‘fighting for his life’ in the the beginning to when he was transferred to rehab and then when he walked !!! for the first time. I thought it might be kind of nice for them to have a tangible memento of how folks who didn’t know them personally were praying for them back home through it all.

    After my interviews, I had to write the story on my laptop at the restaurant (which was chaotic with noise and laughter and celebration but thankfully had WiFi), but it worked out OK and I got it done relatively quickly. It’s probably posted by now.

    House = Still an oven. It was 89 degrees inside when I got home at around 7:30 — and that was with the fans left running all day. I’ve opened the windows so it should get “down” to maybe 84 by bedtime! 😮

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