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Our Daily Thread 8-28-13

Good Morning!

On this day in 1609 Delaware Bay was discovered by Henry Hudson.

In 1833 slavery was banned by the British Parliament throughout the British Empire.

In 1907 the “American Messenger Company” was started by two teenagers, Jim Casey and Claude Ryan.  The company’s name was later changed to “United Parcel Service.”

In 1939 the first successful flight of a jet-propelled airplane took place. The plane was a German Heinkel He 178.

And on this day in 1963 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., gave his “I Have a Dream” speech at a civil rights rally in Washington, DC.

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Quote of the Day

“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.”

Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Also on this day in 1963 this group played this song at Dr. King’s march.

Today is Albertina Walker’s birthday.

And it’s Daniel Seraphine’s too. He’s the guy on drums, but Terry Kath on guitar kinda steals the show. This should wake you up. 🙂

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Anyone have a QoD for us today?

54 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 8-28-13”

  2. The end of slavery in the British empire. What a day. Wilberforce worked his entire life to see that come to pass. Some things are worth spending your life doing.

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  4. Too bad we couldn’t have ended slavery without nearly destroying the country.
    QoD; When do you think would have slavery ended here if there had been no civil war?

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  5. It’s getting late here and I just finished doing all the transfers for the August offerings in Kina and US dollars, so I am off to bed. Good night all

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  6. First of all, I am Alabama born and bred lest you forget, but do you think if Martin Luther King were alive today he would be proud?
    Some of you here are old enough to remember hearing his speeches for yourselves. Now people really only get what they are TOLD he said. I am lucky I got to take an American History class from WWII to the Present. I have watched the old news reels of his speeches. What I heard is sometimes very differrent from what I am told he said.
    There are people, both black and white who gave their lives so that some of those that followed behind them can act like gangsta’s and thugs! I have a feeling that if Martin could see what his dream has become he would shake his head in disgust.

    To answer KBells question: With the rise in industrialization slavery would have ceased to be economically viable. Now one man on a tractor can harvest an entire field of cotton in a day. Another machine cranks out a rectangular stack of cotton that fits on the back of a semi to be hauled to a cotton gin that removes all the seeds.
    It would have been hard to support even slave labor when there was a cheaper more efficient way of doing things coming. Think of the American farm today. Think of how many people limit their family size.

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  7. Kim is correct, the industrial revolution would have done it. But it was the invention of the cotton gin that caused it. Cotton may have been king for a while, but it ruined the South for a couple of generations.

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  8. Good morning, all. Both girls are home from school today. Becca is feeling better, but was running a fever late last night, so I’ve got her for one more day. The doctor said a cold caused the ear infections, so she’s technically still catching until she’s fever free for 24 hours. L. had a riding lesson last night. She went over a jump and the horse bucked upon landing and threw her off. She landed really hard on her hip and elbow. The elbow seems fine, but she has a lot of pain in her hip, waking many times last night. It hurts to put any weight on it, so we’re headed back to the pediatrician today at 11:30. It was so scary to see her go down. Thankfully, she didn’t hit her head (she wears a helmet, but still). She was very brave at the time, getting right back on the horse and walking him to cool him down. I’m just hoping nothing is broken.

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  9. But it wasn’t slavery that caused the war. The primary cause was the tariffs the northern industrial states wanted, but were detremental to the southern states who depended on trade for their existance.
    The resulting destruction and economic policies kept the south poor until WW II.
    In South Carolina, the only industry I knew about was knitting mills. This was until we moved to Charleston, which had shipping and ferterlizer plants. My dad went to work for a steel mill they were building at the time.
    It was in Charleston that I saw movie theaters open on Sunday. And drugstores. You could get anything in Charleston.

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  10. Southern men got the legacy of having been the only Americans ever defeated in a war. Something WWII began to restore.
    It is a war that should have been avoided at almost all costs. In some ways the fall out from that war is still happening.
    Just yesterday I met with a couple in their 80’s who are considering selling their home here and moving to North Alabama to be closer to their daughter and and grand daughter. They were telling me about moving to Alabama from Washington State 8 years ago and how stunned their real estate agent was that they would voluntarily move to Alabama. Why would you want to go there?

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  11. Kim – Remember I privately told you about me sticking up for the south (but I still can’t remember what I said)? In that same conversation, a lady in the group mentioned moving to Tennessee for a couple years with her family when she was young. She told about a boy on the school bus, railing about how much he hated Yankees.

    “If there was a Yankee on this bus right now, I’d jump out the window!” he averred.

    “So jump,” Joanne answered.

    He must have been shocked. 🙂

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  12. Good morning, all. I have not been feeling very well lately . Some kind of bug I guess. Yesterday I did make the effort, though I did not much feel like it, to drive north of Atlanta to a book signing for Jerry Jenkins new book, I, Saul. It was nice to see him for a few moments. I am looking forward to reading the book.

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  13. Hello All,

    I have been sick the last 3 1/2 days, a cold. The fires out west are nowhere near me in the top left corner of CA. We are going to Eureka today to buy another new car, a Subaru Forester. The last one, a 2001, had 302,xxx miles on it when I drove into a slough in North Dakota.

    That was on the 2nd of June. On the 27th Bambi jumped out at my wife and attacked her car. She hit a deer and totaled her 1997 Honda Accord. The next day we went out and got her a 2012 Toyota Prius 2 with 8,xxx miles on it.

    A couple of weeks later she took our 2 grandsons back to Lost Wages (Las Vegas). Then on to Los Angeles to visit famil and go to a Canary club meeting. Then she came home… 2700 + miles. She got 49 MPG; 70 MPH, with the AC on the whole time. A couple of days later I took the car to our son’s house in North Bend/Coos Bay, OR. US101 has a top speed of 55 MPH. I had my brother and a grand daughter in the car. About 300 miles- 59 MPG!

    I expect this will be my last new car for a while, maybe ever. The last one was 12 years old and going strong when I ruined it. I am not driving back and forth from LA to Crescent City every 3 weeks or a year and a half like I did in 2008-2009. I expect we will use the Prius for most long trips.

    We have been working on our gardens, well, actually my wife has done most of the work. When I figure out how to get the pictures off my new iPhone I will put them on here. You just might enjoy our “Wonder Stump.” Mary Anne’s fuchsias are also very pretty.

    Has anybody out there used Zucchini to make mock apple pie? Tastes just like the real thing! Besides that what do you do with Zucchinis?

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  15. I either didn’t know or had forgotten that Peter, Paul & Mary sang “If I Had a Hammer” at the King march (which I don’t think we watched, I was a kid anyway, still more interested in playing baseball than in politics, and probably wouldn’t have watched it anyway).

    But several years later I remember buying “If I Had a Hammer” — it was a “45” by Trini Lopez, how quaint is that? Loved that song.

    annms, that fall sounds like it hurt! Hope she heals quickly, but good idea to get it checked out by the doc. And I hope Becca’s feeling better, too — those ear infections can be so painful. 😦

    Bob, I always liked the Suburu Foresters, nice looking cars. Sounds like you’re enjoying life up near Eureka. I remember noticing on the old weather map we used to run in our paper that it seemed to always be in the 60s up there during the summer. I thought, “Now that’s where I’d like to move someday.” 🙂 And the northern coast is so beautiful (though ours is pretty spectacular down here as well).

    Lots of old hippies up there, though, aren’t there? 😉

    Interesting to see there’s still such a divide between “the Yanks” and the south.

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  16. Wow, Bob, that is impressive mileage. I wanted to drive to Portland when I was home last year, but the cost of gas made it impossible. Especially when my son could get me free standby tickets on the airlines.

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  17. Yes, janiceg, feel better.

    I had a Prius as a loaner last time my Jeep was in for service. It was very quiet. 🙂 But I’ve been told by city cyclists who commute on our busy streets that they don’t like them much for that very reason.

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  18. Did anyone else hear/see the story about the basketball player, later coach of U of Iowa, who was on the stage as a volunteer at MLK’s speech and got the manuscript afterward? He put it away and forgot about it for twenty years. he has been offered as much as $3.5m for it, but refuses to sell. He also discovered that the whole section on “I have a dream” is not part of the original. It was totally ad lib. But then, MKL was a preacher, and most preachers worth their salt are good at ad-libbing. Here is the CBS News version of the story.

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  19. I think I am getting my puppy today. She is a red and white border collie. She stopped being in the paper but is apparently still there.

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  20. Funny you mentioned ad lib, Donna. I just was on the phone with my brother and he said something about how Obama got some support for being a good speaker and I said he is not a good at ad lib. Yes, Martin was and it was from the heart because he had one for sure. Another Martin, as in Olasky, has a good article about King over on world.

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  22. How do you explain the concept of “respect your elders” to someone who insists that we should treat everyone with respect, regardless of their age or station in life? The thing is, she’s right about that, but I still feel instinctively, maybe, that those older than us deserve a bit more respect.

    I tried explaining that those older than us have attained more wisdom & experience, but that didn’t sound convincing to her. She is not advocating disrespect, but doesn’t believe older people deserve more respect.

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  23. Karen, “respect for youth” is the system under which we live. Whether it’s a “new and improved” products, or products designed to remind you that wrinkles and gray hairs are completely unattractive, or overt disrespect for outmoded elders, the spirit of the age and the American spirit are respect for youth, not age.

    It’s a “start” just to insert the understanding that old people should be wiser and more knowledgeable, and are worthy of as much respect..

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  24. I don’t think I actually “respect” my elders more – I think I just treat them more gently. Whereas I might argue about something with a peer or someone younger than myself, for an older person I just smile and keep my mouth shut. Same deal if they want to tell me the same lengthy story over and over again or give me advice that is outdated or wrong. I would also go out of my way to hold a door or assist older persons even if I don’t know them.

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  26. Peter, I just saw the news article about the guy owning the original of the speech. He didn’t even know what he had until someone was writing a book and “discovered” it folded up inside another book.

    I attended the Freedom Luncheon today. It benefits an alcohol and drug treatment facility for men in this county. The speaker was a prominant business man who told how he came to be associated with the Shoulder. He had a family member who was addicted to alcohol. During the speech it was evident he was speaking of his son. He choked up several times during the speech but at the end he asked his wife and children to come up on stage with him and asked us all to to indulge him as he blessed his son. It was a very moving prayer.

    Remember, American by birth, Southern by the grace of God.

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  27. Respect is a verb indicating action. Yes, we are to respect all people for all, even the youngest and most fragile embryo to the oldest and most fragile elder. That is basic respect for life as God made it to be lived
    out. Each age and stage deserves its own special respect. Do we make fun of the young who are inexperienced and don’t know how to do something beyond their capabilities and knowledge?No, as Christians we patiently show what needs to be known. As young people advance in a different time frame from the older generation there may be increasing areas of life differences of how things are done especially in the area of technology. So perhaps a greater share of respect for elders is needed because of the vast array of categories available in which to show respect?

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  28. Sorry about that incomprehensible wording on that post. Just give me a little R E S P C T as Aretha Franklin would say, and just say you get my gist.

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  29. You people need to respect your elders who have all the experience and now know not to do nothine stupid (more than once). I’m all in favor of respecting elders.
    😆

    Is everyone getting ready for a big day tomorrow?
    I thought the anniversary was 31 August, but Aj say’s it’s Thursday. And he would know.

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  30. I received $13.50 for jury pay. It came with a letter asking me to be a generous juror and endorse it over to the Child Advocacy Center for children in the foster system or victims of abuse. What’s a juror to do? Now I am out the coat of an envelope and stamp. Seems it would have made more sense to ask me when I was there and then they wouldn’t have had the expense of the check the envelope and the stamps. 🙂

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  33. Hey, Kim, it is one branch of the government supporting another. Judicial is doing their part to keep the post office in business. 🙂 ?

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  35. Dear me it is hot outside and everyone is sneezing and wiping their watery eyes…we need some serious rain or a hard freeze!
    Bob, we just purchased our first Subaru…a Forester…we are getting amazing gas mileage and so far we have hit 2000 miles on the odometer and it’s looking good! We have always been Honda, Toyota drivers….seems Subaru is our new choice…we get lots of snow and ice here…we are hoping the Forester does better in the snow than did my Honda Civic SI….!

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  36. Donna, I had called her a month ago to ask about the puppy, but she was adamant it was not going to be a working dog, just a companion. I had told her I was looking for a little help and a companion. I kept seeing the pup in the paper so called again and explained that I thought she belonged here. The woman called back and asked why I thought so. When I finished explaining, she said she had had no idea but we were the ideal place for the dog. Seems it is high energy and needs companionship and seems we are a large family with lots of children who homeschool. Somehow she missed that in the first call, though I had said it all before. So now, at a much more convenient time, the dog is to be ours as of this evening. Somebody must be in charge of planning.

    She is a girl, about seven months old. Red and white. I have not met her, just going by the picture, but I am guessing she is the one we are missing at this time. Her name is currently Rue because she “rues” when she sees her people. That may change or may not.

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  37. Cheryl – This is one young lady (my elder daughter, BTW) who actually likes more old-fashioned, natural living – as few chemicals as possible in her cleaning & personal products (she makes her own, including toothpaste & deodorant), cooking everything from scratch, etc. And she hates the idea of a Kindle, preferring real books. 🙂

    But, being young (24), she also has some notions that are different from ours.

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  40. Just wanted to let y’all know that I ended up taking L. to an orthopedist instead of the pediatrician, on the advice of a friend. We learned nothing is broken (yay!). She has a severe hip contusion, basically a bad bruise. They put her on crutches for the next three weeks. She’s not supposed to ride for same amount of time, which means the horse show is off. It was going to be her first one, so she’s pretty devastated. There’s another one in October, but to a 13 year old, that seems like a long time to have to wait. She’s determined she’s still going to show, but we’ll see how quickly she heals.

    Becca is amazingly better after only two doses of antibiotics (and really just one, as the second one was taken only an hour ago). She’s running around, jumping on the trampoline, laughing and having fun. I’m so grateful for antibiotics; I highly doubt my children would have made it to their first birthdays without them! My Hubby is never sick–he hasn’t taken any prescription medicine during our entire marriage (except for one round of antibiotics after a surgery, along with some pain medication for same surgery). He’s never had the vomit virus in his entire life. He simply doesn’t get sick! It’s so strange to me b/c me and the girls catch things easily. Anytime strep goes through Becca’s classroom, she comes down with it. And then, I get it and L. gets it. Oh, how I wish my kids had gotten their dad’s immune system! Becca is scheduled for allergy testing next week, and I’m hoping her health will improve with allergy shots. I took them as a child and an adult and they helped me tremendously. Today, I rarely need antihistamines. It’s wonderful!

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  41. I used to make zucchini cake and bread, I believe. I used to freeze it. It needs to be drained usually when using it after it has been frozen. I may have made some kind of jam with it, too. It has been years since I have grown it.

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  42. I had a daughter who benefitted greatly from allergy shots, too. She still needs meds for allergies, but only seasonally now. I am sure that is far better for her, than taking them all the time. Both my husband and I have to do that. Poor children and grandchildren have a lot of allergy issues. We are grateful for all the advances in treatment.

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  44. We brought home a female Chocolate Lab puppy today. We are trying out names:
    Lulu
    Lulabelle
    Lucy
    Annabelle
    She needs a name.
    Amos is not amused. She tried to eat his food. She is bigger than he is.

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  46. Poor Amos.

    Sorry, Chas, looks like we have a good old-fashioned pet thread!

    Misten just got a bath yesterday, her first in a couple of years, but you would have thought her friend and owner had done something really grievoulsy horrific, the way she sort of kept her distance the rest of the day. Of course, the water was pretty chilly (she needs to have any baths outside now, and even though I waited for a very warm day, water from the hose is chilly), but it’s not like she gets them weekly or anything. She hasn’t had more than twelve to fifteen baths in the eight-and-a-half years I’ve owned her (usually about twice a year, but last year it got cool before she could have one and I used a “dry shampoo” instead of subjecting her to a bath in cool weather).

    And of course after we kept her inside to dry for several hours, the first time she was outside she came in covered with bits of grass, the evidence that she had rolled to get rid of that icky clean smell.

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  54. Yeah, allergies. When I am in California there is actually a season or two with no allergies and I quit taking meds. here it is year round and I wonder if the meds are doing anything. I was up for an hour in the middle of the night my head was so stuffed up. My class knows to just wait when I am in the middle of a story and have to sneeze.

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