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Our Daily Thread 8-24-13

Good Morning!

And Happy Saturday! 🙂

On this day in 0079 Mount Vesuvius erupted killing approximately 20,000 people. The cities of Pompeii, Stabiae and Herculaneum were buried in volcanic ash.

In 1456 the printing of the Gutenberg Bible was completed.

In 1814 Washington, DC was invaded by British forces that set fire to the White House and Capitol.

In 1869 a patent for the waffle iron was received by Cornelius Swarthout.

In 1932 Amelia Earhart became the first woman to fly across the U.S.  non-stop. The trip from Los Angeles, CA to Newark, NJ, took about 19 hours.

And in 1989 Pete Rose, the manager of the Cincinnati Reds, was banned from baseball for life after being accused of gambling on baseball.

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Quote of the Day

“Surely the principles of Christianity lead to action as well as meditation.”

William Wilberforce

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It’s Jeff Gilbert’s birthday today.

It’s Ken Hensley’s birthday. And the clothes are a hoot. 🙂

And we’ll stick with the 70’s because it’s David Freiburg’s too.

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Anyone have a QoD?

72 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 8-24-13”

  3. Enjoy your coffee Chas. It is getting late here, but it was a nice quiet day. Sorted through some cupboards and found a few things I didn’t know I had, some left by the former owner. Always good to sort things. Even had time for a nap. I seem to have had either allergies or a cold for the last two months.

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  6. Good Saturday morning to ya’ll!
    1989 Pete Rose banned from baseball…accused of gambling….and the steroid kings of the game keep on keeping on….shameful…I’m telling ya there are many Reds fans who love Pete Rose…yep….we do! 🙂

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  7. On this day in 0079…
    So now we’re succumbing to the secularists and giving the 1st Century dates as four digits instead of AD 79? Oh well, someone got the year of Jesus’ birth wrong anyway, so all our dates are arbitrary. And then, of course, back in the AD 1700s someone named Gregory decided his calendar was more accurate than the Julian version, so the switch was made. It’s all on God’s time anyway. If we went by older calendars such as the Jewish one, we would call this the 18th of Elul in the year 5773, according to the Hebrew calendar converter. That means I was born on the 23rd of Iyyar in the year 5717. So I could still claim 57! But then, all of us except maybe Chas could claim 57, since he was born prior to the year 5700.

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  8. 😦 I stopped by to see what was going on, and here Peter gets me all bumfuzzled about what day it is.
    All I know is that it’s Saturday, and I have lots to do.

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  9. I watched a little MTV in their early years, and I remember them advertising their MTV calendar, saying “Get your MTV calendar, ’cause sooner or later you’re gonna wanna know what day it is!” 😉

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  10. Cincinnati Reds — I had a high school teacher who would speak often of the Reds, his favorite team. I think I’ve told this story before here, or at WMB, but he said if we were stumped on a short answer test question, he wouldn’t mark us wrong if we put down “Cincinnati Reds” as the answer.

    I don’t think I ever tried that to see if he was serious or foolin’. 🙂

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  11. 6 Arrows, I wouold have tried it at least once.
    I have had three quiz questions in my learning years that I wish I had back. I think I blew at least two of them.
    1. Discuss the llegacies of the Greek and Roman empires. Today, I culd knock it out of the park, to use a Red’s term.
    2. Was Queen Elizabeth a Catholic or Protistant? I don’t know whiat I said, but now I would say,j “Neither, she was a politician.”
    3. Describe Job’s God. That one still stumps me.

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  14. Speaking of great words like bumfuzzled, is it time for us to create a new language to give all those who monitor our emails and such a challenge? Of course I must qualify that by saying I am only jesting. Did anyone here ever use Pig Latin? I am trying to remember how that worked.

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  15. My husband is on his way home after a week-long business trip. He left me behind with a cranky old cat and a towering stack of boxes to be unpacked. (Some things never change . . . .). I’ve made a significant dent in the boxes–opened all of them–and cleared most of them out of the house. The hope was to be done when he gets home today.

    That’s not happening because some of the boxes have been minefields of emotion–last night I found my grandmother’s will in an obscure box with Bible school notes. (What is THAT all about?) The two manila envelopes also had old family photos, wedding invitations from 1948 and newspaper clippings for funerals of my great-great-aunts and uncles.

    What do you do with stuff like that?

    I felt guilty throwing away the wedding invitations for distant cousins who are now dead. I don’t have contact with their family and I only know who these people are because of my family histories. No one else would know.

    I tossed out copies of the will, but kept the original. It makes me tear up even now to think of my grandmother’s noteworth penmanship and to read letters someone sent her in 1920.

    Minefields.

    Which is why I’m not done yet . . .

    But I’m ending tomorrow night no matter where I am. I have two weeks to prepare for a writers conference and I have to get back to work on my WWI novel so I can present it. I’m also touring down to TN for a couple days for a little more research on the Civil War novel while I’m in that area, so I need to get back up to speed on that.

    Not to mention everything else.

    Busy times.

    Peter, you need to email me your address. I can’t find your email address or Drill’s.

    Maybe they’re in one of these boxes somewhere . . . .

    I think it’s funny to see I’ve used up all the bowls, spoons and mugs while I’ve been alone. I ran the dishwasher last night only because I actually cooked a meal and finally had enough plates to justify it! I ate out a lot with friends, just like a 20-something!

    Still rejoicing about the resolution at the Nest, but am concerned and continue to pray for the emotional slam this has been on those vulnerable kids–not to mention their long-suffering parents.

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  16. So far it is a sunny day here. That does not mean it won’t be raining in five minutes. I need to mow the grass but got pretty ill the last time from the heat and humidity so I am not sure if I should attempt it. But if I don’t then I don’t know when I will find another opportunity. I have seen some of the lawn service guys out mowing in the rain. I guess they won’t let a little or a lot of rain keep them from earning their wages. Not sure what it does to their equipment though.

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  17. Michelle, at Lions yesterday, we had a talk about submarines. Not from the submariner, we had that before. But from the wife of a retired submarine commander. She enjoyed living in different places, but the biggest problem was his returning home and taking over the house.
    My sister was a navy wife. She said the biggest threats to their marriage were when he came home and tried to take over.
    It makes a certain amount of sense. Everything has a history. He doesn’t know the children’s schedule, the teachers, the bill paying routine, etc.
    I can see how that can be a challenge.
    Her husband is Lions president this year.

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  18. Good (late) morning, all. We’re headed to Corpus Christi momentarily for the wedding of a cousin of mine. My parents and brother and his wife will be there, too. We return tomorrow. I’m really happy for the bride (my cousin) as she’s 35 or so and never married. She’s longed to be married and seems to have found a really nice, Christian man. The girls are staying behind with Connie (nanny). We thought it might be too much for the youngest, with school starting on Monday. The wedding doesn’t start until 7:00, so the reception will run late for Becca. Anyhoo–y’all have fun this weekend!

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  19. I love good old words like bumfuzzled and anyhoo. I came across a great Scrabble word and am waiting to use it syzygy. I am playing Words with Friends with my 74 year old aunt. She regularly stomps me. I can be 50 points ahead of her and in two plays she is a hundred points ahead of me.

    Sadness from the story of Daddy J and Mama R. She called both her daughters almost in tears Thursday night. She had something to tell them and insisted they come over right away. She told them their father was dying. She had just found out. We have all known for some time that she was showing signs of dementia but they doctors would ask her questions like do you know you bank balance? Well of course she does she calls the bank every day 4 and 5 times to find out! They would ask her various other things and she could answer them but with us it is the same conversation every time. She tells her youngest daughter that I never call her. She hasn’t heard from me in over a year.
    She was convinced someone had stolen a check from her so she closed her bank account and opened a new one. None of her bills have been paid in 3 months. She shops on Home Shopping Network and has forgotten what she has bought so she has bought multiple items.
    My advice was that they seek councel from an elder care attorney, but they are going to get a family member who is an attorney to handle everything. I think it is a mistake but it isn’t my call.
    Youngest daughter is planning to move her mother in with her and her husband. It is going to be a mess cleaning everything out and getting her settled. They have lived in the same house since about 1956. It will be hard on everyone.

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  20. Kim, that’s so sad. I was looking after an aunt some years ago who began showing signs of dementia (lots of checks bouncing, etc.) and it is such a difficult thing to navigate for family members.

    Eventually two of her 20-something granddaughters stepped in and got her moved into a facility near them up in Sacramento. She died after only a few months, though. 😦

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  21. The Navy used to print on shopping bags: “Navy Wife–toughest job in the Navy.”

    That was all well and good, but I felt the parking spots reserved for O-5s and above at the commissary would have been better reserved for “sea widows with at least two children under five.”

    That was the really hard part.

    Those were good years. As a Navy Relief budget counselor, I always handled the money–up until several months ago when I gave him the check book and walked away. He couldn’t believe I could do it, but I did and I have no clue how much money is in our bank account.

    I don’t care any more!!! Let him pay the bills!

    He, however, did not mow the lawn for five years. I felt his time, particularly when he was chief engineer on the oldest boat in the Atlantic Ocean, was too valuable for family interaction for him to waste it on something I easily could do. My focus was on making sure his kids knew their dad and vice versa. We did well on that score, but it took a lot out of me.

    Maybe someday he’ll make up for it . . . I have to say, he’s been a big booster for the writing life.

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  22. Michelle, I feel that way when I go to the grocery store here in town. The first two parking space on any row are for handicapped parking. (Believe me were I live they are always full) next is Senior Citizen parking and the 4th spot is reserved for EXPECTING MOTHERS! First if she is expecting she needs to walk. It will make labor easier later. That spot needs to be reserved for mothers WITH already born children. The next space is the cart/buggy return. Of course, sometimes I park in the expecting mother’s space and sometimes in the senior citizen. They can’t ticket me for it and I find it humorous if anyone is keeping track of my parking habits.

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  25. Since I’ve married, I’ve only had one bill that is my responsibility–the Visa that is in my name.

    A few months ago I accidentally paid it late, only about the second time ever. It ended up going in his pile, and now he pays all the bills.

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  29. In between picking up the house, doing the dishes, the laundry & bleaching out the kitchen sink, shredding junk mail, clearing off the desk … I needed a comedy break. 🙂

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  30. Hooray! I got the grass mowed without rain and without feeling sick afterwards. That means it has been a really good Saturday. I have also come up with a good activity for tomorrow’s lesson about when Paul meets with King Agrippa. I have some rice made to put together some fried rice later when my husband gets home from work. I saw a really fat caterpillar on the passionflower vine so it will soon make a chrysalis. I love the Gulf Fritillary butterflies that we have each year from those plants. I guess that is enough wanderings for one post! A day without rain seems like a mirage 🙂

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  31. Everyone’s been busy today. I picked cucumbers, beets, broccoli and cabbage from the garden. Made pickled beets, dill pickles, sweet pickles and washed the broccoli and cabbage. While doing all of this I managed to finish the laundry (lots after company), washed a ton of dishes (lots after company), and then picked apples, sliced apples and froze a bunch of apples. I think I’m done for the day even though I still have lots of apples left (need more freezer bags). Any easy ideas for apples? I like freezing them because I can pull them out and make crisp or sauce or whatever during the winter. I’m thinking of making apple juice and sauce and freezing that.

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  32. Were those goats on the trampoline?

    I liked the video but the music was not my favorite style mostly because I have been conditioned to ignore it because it is what I frequently hear blasting out rudely from cars on the streets in Atlanta. Sometimes I feel like blasting out classical music in response. 🙂

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  33. Kare, have you ever made apple butter? I like that.And some people make dried apple slices that can later be used for making little fried pies.

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  34. We made it safely to Corpus Christi. Leaving momentarily for the wedding. Our hotel is fairly new and the beds are very comfortable, but we only have a view of the parking lot! Oh well. It would’ve been a 30 minute drive to the wedding site if we’d stayed on the water, and Hubby didn’t want to do that. Instead, we’re six miles from where the wedding is being held.

    Kim: So sorry about Daddy J and his wife. My grandmother lived for many years with Alzheimer’s and did many foolish things with money (after a lifetime of being very responsible and frugal) before anyone realized she was sick. She eventually was kicked out of the nursing home b/c she kept hitting people with her cane, and she moved to my parents property and lived there for almost a decade with full-time caregivers. By the time of her death, she no longer recognized anyone other than my dad. It was very sad.

    Janice: Glad you got all your yard work completed!!!

    Hubby pays all the bills. I did it for about six months years ago, but he didn’t like it. I didn’t really enjoy paying the bills and it really bothered him not to know more, so he resumed doing it about a decade ago, and now the only bills I pay are related to medical care. I don’t pay much attention to money–Hubby deposits money in my checking account at the beginning of the month and he takes care of the investments, etc. It works for us. I’m so glad I don’t have all that responsibility on my shoulders. It’s nice to not have to worry about it.

    In addition, Hubby takes care of everything related to my car. I haven’t gotten an inspection sticker or had the oil changed in years. The only thing I do with the car is drive it and put gas in it. I’ve never asked him to do this, he just does.

    He also mows the grass as I’m allergic to just about everything outside. I take care of the inside of the house and errands. We have a pretty traditional split on housework– kind of a 1950’s marriage in 2013. We never really discussed our roles, it’s just where our strengths lie. I have quite a few friends who are the primary breadwinners while their husbands stay home with the kids. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that, but I wouldn’t like it.

    We went to meet the teacher yesterday. Becca got the teacher she was hoping for. She seems very sweet and has a wonderful reputation at the school. She won teacher of the year two years ago and whenever the superintendent comes to observe a classroom, the principal always sends him to her classroom. She is finally a little excited about school starting. I’m hoping she has a better year in second grade than she did in first.

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  36. Goats, yes, I think mumsee would like that. 😉

    No picking here, but I did go out and BUY some red grapes, red cabbage, celery, radishes and kale at the store. 🙂

    JaniceG, I remember one Easter morning some years ago when I was stopped at a light on my way to church. Next to me was a guy blasting rap music (with some horrible words at that); I actually did just crank up the hymns I was listening to in my car, I think we both had our windows down.

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  37. Janice, I used to blast rock music from my car radio when I was driving to orchestra practice or other classical music activity in college! Classical music is what comes from my car radio now. 🙂

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  38. Michelle- My address was just sent to your email address, at least I hope you are still using the one you used for Kim’s wedding card.

    And Chas- How can you be bumfuzzled if you can spell that kind of word?

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  41. http://www.pickyourown.org/SouthernChowChow.htm

    My mother canned fruits and vegetables. One years she put up pickled spiced peaches. It made so much juice that she put the beets up in the peach juice. We begged for years for her to do that again, but it was only that one year.

    I probably could do things like that if I put my mind to it but so far I haven’t, so we just really don’t know for sure.

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  42. Kim, I did think about sauerkraut, but the cabbage is so tender and delicious I just want to eat it fresh 🙂 The chowchow recipe looks good too, however, I don’t can anything. It has to be either refrigerated or freezable. Off to look up apple butter…

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  44. Over on the Prayer Thread, Donna tells about losing her debit card.
    Not to make light of her real predicument, but the idea of a misplaced card reminds me of a poem I wrote a couple of years ago. I transferred it from my word processor for your amusement.

    The Truant Dental Floss

    Last night I went to brush my teeth
    The way I always do.
    And then I have to work the floss,
    Before the job is through.

    But Lo! It isn’t there I see.
    Now just where could it be?
    I know, it’s with my shaving stuff,
    I’ll find it easily.

    I fumble through the drawer below,
    Stuff for my face and hair,
    But vainly for my dental floss
    It clearly isn’t there.

    What now, sez I, what can I do?
    I must call nine-one-one.
    Some thief broke in and stole my floss,
    Though nothing else is gone.

    In panic now, my floss is gone,
    Oh my, what can I do?
    I know! I’ll just use my wife’s Glide
    ‘Cause every piece is new.

    It puzzles me, I just can’t sleep,
    All night I turn and toss,
    What could have happened to that
    Stupid roll of dental floss?

    Come dawn, now through bleary eyes,
    Say! What is this I see?
    That truant roll of dental floss,
    Just staring back at me.

    That Earhart girl, Virginia Dare,
    Did Oswald act alone?
    Those statues now on Easter Isle,
    Gigantic blocks of stone.

    The Stonehenge., Oh, so many more
    That puzzle mankind so;
    And how that floss got with my socks,
    This world will never know.

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  46. Thanks for sharing your poem with us Chas. Wow, a whole new creative side we didn’t know. Now perhaps you will write us each a birthday poem. 🙂

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  48. HI Jo. I’m shaved, had breakfast and just checking in before reviewing the SS lesson. We leave in about an hour for early churchl . It’s 7:00 on th dot here.

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  49. Chas’ poem reminds me that last Monday morning I made the coffee. I have a plastic pitcher that I use to pour the water in the coffee maker. It came with the Bunn Coffee Maker. It doesn’t drip. It is the perfect measurement for the water. I keep it in the cabinet next to the coffee canister.
    It has disappeared! I haven’t seen it since last Monday morning. It is as if it just vanished. This is a small house. It isn’t as if there are lots of places for it to be.

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  50. So it’s the missionary, the poet, the southern belle and the reporter here so far … I didn’t get up until 8 a.m., then hit the shower, fed the dogs/cat, and am making a cup of coffee. I have to start getting ready for church in probably about 10 minutes.

    It’s very foggy here this morning.

    Our sermon today is on Ephesians and putting on the full armor of God. (It’s meant to be a transition, I think, as we’re about to embark on the section of Romans in which our behavior as believers will be discussed.

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  51. I bought one of those single k-cup coffee makers (Keurig) a couple years ago and love it. No pieces to go missing, no having to dump out a bunch of unused coffee. Since it’s just little old me here — and I only drink 1 cup of coffee, if any at all, in the mornings — it’s really worked well for me.

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  52. The poem:

    True story. The only thing that isn’t true is the “turn and toss” part.
    I really didn’t think about it until a few days later. I was minding my own business when, from nowhere, this thought came to me. “How did that dental floss get into my sock drawer?” It obviously got there because someone put it there. There is a 99% probability that person was me. But I don’t remember the event. So, I tried to reconstruct a logical answer. I could see how it could be transferred with shaving stuff, even with the 409 & Windex. But I couldn’t construct a scenario in which that dental floss got from the medicine cabinet in the bathroom to my sock drawer in the bedroom.
    Still can’t.

    Now? Donna will likely find her card with cloistered with a receipt of a bill she paid.

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  54. Chas, I still have my debit card (though I lost one several years ago; ok, so I’ve lost more than one through the years). And, yes, I have done that thing where I wrap the card in the receipt and stick if free-floating in my purse, satchel or backpack (sometimes for work I carry lots of ‘stuff’), not putting it back in my wallet where it should go …

    But I think kBells may still be missing hers. 😉 Or maybe she found it this morning.

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  56. The rule at our house is that we find whatever we are missing in pone of two places: Out in the open, just unnoticed because we want it to be where it belongs; or 2: in the last place we look for it. Funny how it is always in the last place we look, whether that be out in the open or in the “sock drawer”.

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  58. Um, yeah, it would be the last place you look, since it would be stupid to keep looking once you find it!!

    When I had fister kids, I decided it was wisdom to keep my keys completely out of their reach; I had no idea what mischief they might get into otherwise (whether that was flushing the keys or starting the car). One day I removed one set from the place I had been keeping it and decided to put them somewhere else . . but no matter how I looked later I could not find them. I knew two things about where they were: they were out of sight and they were up high. But the kids had been out of my house for months before I happened across them one day, or remembered where I had put them, I forget which. Fortunately I did have another set of keys with most of the keys on it. (Unfortunately I had my neighbors’ house key on the misplaced set . . . but I found the set before I needed their key again. They traveled quite a bit, and sometimes needed me to go inside their house, but rarely.)

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  59. When mysteries abound then it is time to ignore them and say, “God only knows!” He knows how the dental floss got in the sock drawer. We all know it didn’t sprout wings unless God was using a bit of His divine humor. But somehow I think He usually reserves His divine humor for something bigger than dental floss. Hmmm…have you ever heard of people flossing between their toes to remove built up sock lint? Maybe you dreamed about that and sleep walked to put the floss in the sock drawer so you would remember to floss between your toes before you put your socks on the next morning? 🙂

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  61. Why am I not surprised?

    “Former National Council of Churches chief Joan Brown Campbell, in her sermon at Chautauqua today, urged that Christians reject the ‘exclusivity’ of their own faith.

    “And in today’s published interview with the Chautauqua, NY newspaper, Campbell reiterated Christians should not aspire to win other people to Christianity.”

    http://theaquilareport.com/former-church-council-chief-urges-christianity-to-abandon-exclusivity/

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  62. Here I live in a small place, but I think that I lost an important piece of paper for two years. I could remember looking at it and thinking that I had to remember, but could not find it until I left again two years later.
    Good thing that I didn’t wait up for anyone last night. I see that it was 2 hours later before Kim posted.

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  63. And weren’t we all talking about provision not too long ago?

    From Piper: http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/you-can-take-heart-in-uncertainty

    ” … Can you bear not knowing how God is going to provide for your most urgent needs and still trust that he will?

    “It is a question that Jesus wants all of his disciples to wrestle with. There are simply going to be times when we don’t know where the provision is going to come from. Circumstances will look precarious, sometimes foreboding and threatening. Plans are going to fall through. People are going to disappoint us. They may reject or misunderstand our mission. If these things happened to Jesus, we should not be surprised when they happen to us. And we are not to become angry when they do. … “

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  64. ” … Apparently uncertain seasons are usually the most powerful God-moments we experience. They often put God on display more than other seasons, demonstrating that God exists and rewards those who seek him (Hebrews 11:6).

    “So if you are in one of those seasons, take heart. You are likely experiencing what it means to have a God ‘who acts for those who wait for him’ (Isaiah 64:4).”

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  66. True, I had a season when we were down to our last two dollars, 2 children and I, and in one week God provided so abundantly it still amazes me to this day. The provision included 3 Thanksgiving dinners and 2 extra turkeys.

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  67. Donna, have you seen The Joy of Christian Jounalism over on Worldmag? I would link it on here but I still have not figured out how to do that on this Smart Phone.

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  68. About 8 years ago, I misplaced my wedding ring. Connie had only been working with us for about 6 months and was worried I thought she had taken it. I honestly knew I had just put it somewhere for safekeeping and couldn’t remember where that was, but Connie had a hard time believing I didn’t suspect her. Two months later, she found it in one of my crystal glasses in the china cabinet. I immediately remembered putting it there b/c I was cleaning and didn’t want to get it dirty. I think she was almost happier than I was when it was found! We laugh about it now, but she didn’t know me very well at the time (I’m not a very suspicious person, by nature). I was sad it was lost but was sure it would turn up, so didn’t lose much sleep over it. And while I would miss it for sentimental reasons, it is (and was) insured, so I knew it wouldn’t be a financial hit.

    Jo: I’ve been blessed financially my entire life and can’t imagine how scared you must have been to be in real need, with two mouths depending on you. I didn’t make much money as a social worker (my profession after graduate school), but I was only supporting myself and never wanted for something I truly needed. I sometimes delayed things like getting new tires, but never to the point of danger. I worked a second job as a contract social worker at a hospital to help make ends meet b/c I had student loans. But, that season of my life only lasted a few years. Before that, I’d been dependent on my father and then I married. We didn’t have a lot of money in the beginning, but we were comfortable. I’m sure you have learned to be dependent on God in ways I do not know and to appreciate His provisions more thoroughly.

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  69. You’re right Annms. When my husband left us, we found God to be our provider and He provided. We usually didn’t have things early, but when we needed something He provided. My church also took care of us in wonderful ways like the Junior High group bringing us firewood and deacons getting the bats out of the attic, plus financial provision. You just can’t imagine being down to nothing and going to your car after church and finding sacks of groceries with 1 and 5 dollar bills taped to some items.
    When I felt God leading me here, I had no problem knowing He would provide the necessary funds. My pastor told me it might take two years to raise support, but I knew that he was wrong. I raised all my support in 4 months and was able to come here right when I was needed.

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  72. I am up early with some stomach issues. Not long ago I heard a small pop like a gunshot and then I heard two booms and then two more booms. The lights did not go out so it does not seem to be transformers although that is what it sounded like.

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