Here’s one you’ll like. The prosecutor’s office in the George Zimmerman case is being sued by the man who blew the whistle on prosecutorial misconduct and evidence tampering. Sweet.
Its obvious by now that the CIA was probably involved in some black ops in the Benghazi consulate yet loyal Republicans want to shed light on state secrets. How different is that from Snowden or Manning ….
Christie and Rand are the two extremes of what’s wrong with the Party. I’d like to slap them both. Christie is turning into a RINO, Democrat-light who thinks if he kisses up to the Democrats, then they will liiike him. Ask McCain and Romney what happens when you actually get nominated. You go from “nice guy for a Republican” to “racist, lecherous, dog hating bigot”. And Rand is the worse of the the naive, uncompromising, too good to play politics, my way or the highway libertarians. I’m more libertarian than I use to be but unless you get the presidency, the house and the congress you are going to have to play politics and make some compromises.and if the party keeps going Rand’s way that ain’t going to happen. I use to like them both because they were outspoken and said what was on their mind. Now I think they both need to shut up. These two idiots are going to split the party and hand the Democrats another 8 years. Of course I’d vote for either of them over anything the Democrats throw out here.
KBells, I’m afraid it doesn’t matter what Paul or the jumbo-sized Yankee say or do. The US will be governed by Hillary from 2016-2024. The press feel guilty about the way they favored Obama over her in 2008. If you think you saw a biased press before, wait until the 2016 campaign. Meanwhile, the American electorate grows consistently dumber, lazier, and more perverted.
Christie is what he needs to be in order to be elected in a state like Jersey. I don’t like it either, but that is reality. Christie needs Dem votes to win since by party registration numbers alone a Rep. would never be elected without crossover votes. Paul couldn’t get elected in Jersey, and Christie couldn’t in Kentucky. They are what they need to be, because re-election is all they worry about, not what party members in other states think, or want them to be. They are political animals, so they act according to what is necessary to survive in their states/jungle.
I like some things about both, and can find plenty to not like as well. But if the choice is either of them, or a real Dem, I’ll take them every time. Reality does indeed suck. But what can you do?
The division among conservatives is disconcerting as elections loom. No one seems to be rising to the level of leadership that is needed. I’m not fond of Rand or Christie either, am in fact becoming more and more annoyed by both.
But with AJ, I’d probably go for either if it’s that vs. Clinton.
I know many were underwhelmed by Romney. But tell me, in retrospect do you think it would have made a difference to have him in office instead of Obama?
Donna J, What is the answer to your question? How would Romney have been different?
Concerning 2016, nothing makes any difference. Republicans can degrade themselves as Romney and Christie have done, but the American people are so lazy, stupid and immoral and the press is so biased that Hillary is bound to triumph. The only way she loses is if she decides to emulate Anthony Weiner and send out naked pictures of herself. Come to think about it, the press would say Bill drove her to it and she would still win.
Ricky, you may be right about our culture having fallen to such a state that the war is over. On my most discouraged days, I think that way myself. The years of Obama have taken a horrible toll.
But I’m not quite ready to give up the fight. Not yet. Maybe tomorrow.
Until then, I think we need to keep on keeping on.
I think the political fight (at the national level) is over for a while, not the spiritual battle. As long as we stay in the US, we can train our young how to live in a nation that is hostile to our faith. This was done by Christians in the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. Like citizens of those countries we can also teach our young about other countries to which they may flee and about areas of the US that are still relatively free of perversion and socialism.
At some point in the future, the hearts of the American people may change. Until then conservatives in certain states can work to prevent their cities from turning into additional Detoits or San Franciscos. However, I do not think it is at all realistic to expect the US to elect a conservative president in the foreseeable future.
The national downhill slide began years ago, of course; but it’s been surprising to watch the accelerated pace of the slide in just the past 6 years. 😦 Voters are either oblivious & disengaged; not very thoughtful or discerning in their thinking; or all of the above.
Most countries last 200 years, so we’ve surpassed that. Perhaps we’ll just be part of the cyclical existence of nations. Once great, later … not so much.
Ha. And here’s part of root cause, I’m sure — what your kids learn in college. Of course, most of this was in place when I was in college, too, but it sounds as if it’s gotten even more strident and one-sided (although I can’t remember ever having a conservative professor in the 1970s).
Donna J, It is all of the above. More than anything, most Americans are stupid, lazy and selfish. They are lazy and want the government to provide for them what they should provide for themselves. They are selfish and they do not care that their demands on government are creating an unsustainable burden on their grandchildren. They are stupid in that they have no idea of the unintended consequences of government actions.
All of this has been best illustrated by the current health care debate. After Paul Ryan was torched from all sides for his rational reform proposal to convert Medicare to a voucher (oops, can’t say that word) program, no one has spoken honestly about the issue.
Ricky, we’ve been on the path of bigger government since before either you or I were born. And I think it’s frankly affected all of us, younger people most especially though.
Thanks for the article on Russia. On a similar note here is an article on views of homosexuality in Russia and the Baltic states. As my mother has said, “They believe like we did 50 years ago.” They have not been brainwashed.
Women (60 percent) are 10 points more likely to back the 20-week limit than men (50 percent).
Wandering Views 
Yesterday, the differences in state contributions and receipts of federal money was raised. Chris Christie uses that information in a speech directed at Rand Paul
http://www.theeverlastinggopstoppers.com/2013/08/chris-christie-rand-paul-public-ass-whoopin-video/
Its obvious by now that the CIA was probably involved in some black ops in the Benghazi consulate yet loyal Republicans want to shed light on state secrets. How different is that from Snowden or Manning ….
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What comes to mind when you listen to Christie speak, a la, his Rand Paul rant? If you said “statesman,” you were wrong.
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Christie and Rand are the two extremes of what’s wrong with the Party. I’d like to slap them both. Christie is turning into a RINO, Democrat-light who thinks if he kisses up to the Democrats, then they will liiike him. Ask McCain and Romney what happens when you actually get nominated. You go from “nice guy for a Republican” to “racist, lecherous, dog hating bigot”. And Rand is the worse of the the naive, uncompromising, too good to play politics, my way or the highway libertarians. I’m more libertarian than I use to be but unless you get the presidency, the house and the congress you are going to have to play politics and make some compromises.and if the party keeps going Rand’s way that ain’t going to happen. I use to like them both because they were outspoken and said what was on their mind. Now I think they both need to shut up. These two idiots are going to split the party and hand the Democrats another 8 years. Of course I’d vote for either of them over anything the Democrats throw out here.
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KBells, I’m afraid it doesn’t matter what Paul or the jumbo-sized Yankee say or do. The US will be governed by Hillary from 2016-2024. The press feel guilty about the way they favored Obama over her in 2008. If you think you saw a biased press before, wait until the 2016 campaign. Meanwhile, the American electorate grows consistently dumber, lazier, and more perverted.
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“…the jumbo-sized Yankee…”
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Was that necessary?
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Christie is what he needs to be in order to be elected in a state like Jersey. I don’t like it either, but that is reality. Christie needs Dem votes to win since by party registration numbers alone a Rep. would never be elected without crossover votes. Paul couldn’t get elected in Jersey, and Christie couldn’t in Kentucky. They are what they need to be, because re-election is all they worry about, not what party members in other states think, or want them to be. They are political animals, so they act according to what is necessary to survive in their states/jungle.
I like some things about both, and can find plenty to not like as well. But if the choice is either of them, or a real Dem, I’ll take them every time. Reality does indeed suck. But what can you do?
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The division among conservatives is disconcerting as elections loom. No one seems to be rising to the level of leadership that is needed. I’m not fond of Rand or Christie either, am in fact becoming more and more annoyed by both.
But with AJ, I’d probably go for either if it’s that vs. Clinton.
I know many were underwhelmed by Romney. But tell me, in retrospect do you think it would have made a difference to have him in office instead of Obama?
Exactly. Case closed.
Politics is always a trade-off to some degree.
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Donna J, What is the answer to your question? How would Romney have been different?
Concerning 2016, nothing makes any difference. Republicans can degrade themselves as Romney and Christie have done, but the American people are so lazy, stupid and immoral and the press is so biased that Hillary is bound to triumph. The only way she loses is if she decides to emulate Anthony Weiner and send out naked pictures of herself. Come to think about it, the press would say Bill drove her to it and she would still win.
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Ricky, you may be right about our culture having fallen to such a state that the war is over. On my most discouraged days, I think that way myself. The years of Obama have taken a horrible toll.
But I’m not quite ready to give up the fight. Not yet. Maybe tomorrow.
Until then, I think we need to keep on keeping on.
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I think the political fight (at the national level) is over for a while, not the spiritual battle. As long as we stay in the US, we can train our young how to live in a nation that is hostile to our faith. This was done by Christians in the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. Like citizens of those countries we can also teach our young about other countries to which they may flee and about areas of the US that are still relatively free of perversion and socialism.
At some point in the future, the hearts of the American people may change. Until then conservatives in certain states can work to prevent their cities from turning into additional Detoits or San Franciscos. However, I do not think it is at all realistic to expect the US to elect a conservative president in the foreseeable future.
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But there is also this:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/07/voters-trust-republicans-more-on-issues.php
The national downhill slide began years ago, of course; but it’s been surprising to watch the accelerated pace of the slide in just the past 6 years. 😦 Voters are either oblivious & disengaged; not very thoughtful or discerning in their thinking; or all of the above.
Most countries last 200 years, so we’ve surpassed that. Perhaps we’ll just be part of the cyclical existence of nations. Once great, later … not so much.
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Ha. And here’s part of root cause, I’m sure — what your kids learn in college. Of course, most of this was in place when I was in college, too, but it sounds as if it’s gotten even more strident and one-sided (although I can’t remember ever having a conservative professor in the 1970s).
http://www.jewishjournal.com/dennis_prager/article/college_and_your_child
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Donna J, It is all of the above. More than anything, most Americans are stupid, lazy and selfish. They are lazy and want the government to provide for them what they should provide for themselves. They are selfish and they do not care that their demands on government are creating an unsustainable burden on their grandchildren. They are stupid in that they have no idea of the unintended consequences of government actions.
All of this has been best illustrated by the current health care debate. After Paul Ryan was torched from all sides for his rational reform proposal to convert Medicare to a voucher (oops, can’t say that word) program, no one has spoken honestly about the issue.
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Not a fan of Putin, but was glad to see this — maybe our own president might follow suit? Nah. Never mind. I just lost my head there for a moment. 😉
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/world-leaders-should-unite-to-end-anti-christian-persecution-vladimir-putin
Ricky, we’ve been on the path of bigger government since before either you or I were born. And I think it’s frankly affected all of us, younger people most especially though.
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Thanks for the article on Russia. On a similar note here is an article on views of homosexuality in Russia and the Baltic states. As my mother has said, “They believe like we did 50 years ago.” They have not been brainwashed.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2012/05/18/russian-attitudes-towards-gays-are-still-really-negative/
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Karen, was it the “Jumbo” or the “Yankee”? I have friends from the Northeast who call themselves Yankees. One did object to “carpetbagger” though. 🙂
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It was the “jumbo”, kBells. 🙂 I do not consider “Yankee” to be an insult, even though I suspect it may have been used that way.
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