85 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 11-28-12

  1. Good morning, Chas. Is it a Y day? I forget which days you go…Monday, Wednesday, Friday?

    Hello, Tychicus. I was going to say good morning, but it’s afternoon where you are, correct? πŸ™‚

    QotD: First thing that comes to mind about God is His almighty power. But I love how this passage shows not only His strength, but also His tender love:

    Isaiah 40:9-11

    O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God!

    Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.

    He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.


  2. Last night as I was driving home this song came on the schizo iPod and it made me think of KBells and her coal mining relatives. It is from an obscure movie called Matewan about the coal strikes in the early 1900’s. I was surprised I found it on Youtube:


  3. Y on MWF.

    Kim’s video reminded me of Merle Travis’ “Sixteen Tons”. This takes six minutes, but the banter is interesting. Travis didn’t invent finger picking, but he popularized it and everybody copied him. Nobody else was doing that in the late forties. Now everybody does.


  4. QoD,

    I think about His saving grace alot. I see how He saved many of those I love, many I don’t even know, and of course even a wretch like me. I think of the impact that has, on others and myself. I often think how unworthy I am of such an honor, and yet He gave it to me anyway, because He has forgiven me for those unworthy things. Sometimes I’m overwhelmed by it. But I am most thankful for such grace, because I know where I’d be without it, and it’s not a good place. Following Him has shown me the way to something better, and saved me from myself.


  5. Speaking of Vacations. I start mine on the 14th of December. I have to make the trek to Ohio for Christmas. I have to take the car in for service next week.

    QOD. I have to admit that the 1st thing that comes to mind when I think of God is His absolute sovereignty over my life and the universe.


  6. Love and grace is the first thing I think of when I think of God. When I first became a Christian, love was not the word I would have thought of at all. Rather, He was like an authority that needed to be heeded. It is amazing how much we can change our view as we really get to know Him. We find that true in many human relationships, too, so it is not surprising.

    I also think of Psalm 62:11,12–where the psalmist realizes God is both strong and loving. We need to come and see both his almightiness and his love towards us to begin to really trust Him. One or the other alone isn’t going to help us.

    These days His holiness is also something that I appreciate more and more. There is no one characteristic of God that can be left out or lifted above all the others. Seeing them at work in the scripture is eye-opening. Meditating on them all is a blessing. Leaving any of them out consistently in our thoughts, teaching or preaching is hazardess to our spiritual lives.


  7. It’s video day here, I see. Love 16 Tons, but I don’t think I’d heard it sung by anyone except Tennessee Ernie Ford before; nice. Looked like maybe from the late ’70s, just based on fashions I was seeing in the audience?

    And I’d never heard the song Kim posted.

    AJ’s video = all that 1980s big hair, gotta love it. πŸ™‚

    We had a power outage last night, but it only lasted about 2 hours. Funny how dependent you are on a little thing like electrical power …

    The iphone still worked, though, so I was able to check the LA Department of Water and Power website for info about the power outage.


  8. I always liked “Sixteen Tons” and remember seeing Tennesee Ernie Ford on tv singing it in the Soviet Union.

    I hadn’t heard the other, Kim. Having a husband who worked in the mines (although not underground!) and went through many a strike, I can appreciate the words.

    I think of Patty Lovelace singing, “You’ll Never Leave Harlan Alive”. I love the grittiness in her voice. She has family that experienced the coal mining life and the emotion is apparent in her songs. I haven’t taken the time to learn how to link it, so you are on your own to find it. There are several versions on youtube.


  9. Kathaleena, those are indeed good verses about God’s power and mercy (Psalm 62:11-12). On looking them up in my KJV, I see I underlined verses 7 & 8 of that chapter. Verse 7 alone, in only a few words, mentions several of God’s attributes on which to meditate:

    7 In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God.

    8 Trust in him at all times: ye people, pour out your heart before him: God is a refuge for us. Selah.


  10. KimH:

    Matewan was a pretty good movie. I was surprised to see it come up in conversation on this site.

    Tychicus: Great question of the day. I think of being rescued when I think of God. He rescues all of us who look to Him.


  11. QOD: I immediately think of a sunrise, which to me symbolizes all of the potential that He gives us each day. It is up to us to do something with it.

    “It is of the Lord’s mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not. They are new EVERY MORNING: great is they faithfulness.”
    Lamentations 3:22,23


  12. Hi ya’ll,
    I’ve been lurking here for years and thought I’d introduce myself. I followed you over from the World blog. I feel like I know you all, but it was a one-sided friendship. I’m not much of a talker so I probably won’t comment much, but I very much enjoy reading your posts and keeping up with your lives.


  13. Welcome, Meg! Glad to have you here. Tell us a little about yourself, if you like. Are you in the U.S., or are you one of our Canadian neighbors, or from somewhere else? (Sorry if I’m bombarding you with questions!)

    Blessings to you. πŸ™‚


  14. Wow! The Machine is all back in one piece. Now I just have to set the home position for the X-axis, then set the X-axis work co-ordinates. Piece of cake right?

    It’s going smoother than I thought it would. Had lots of good help from the guys here at work.


  15. OK, I think today’s the day I (might) tackle putting up the outdoor lights.

    I just do a modest outline of my front porch overhang & rail then plug it into an adapter in the overhead porch light, so it doesn’t take too long. And most of the little hooks from last year look like they’re still up.


  16. To give you a picture of what we had to do this morning, think of a very high precision hardened steel screw about 2 inches in diameter and 15 feet long. Then picture another high precision “ball nut” that screws onto this thing. The “ball nut” is a housing with very high precision ball bearings inside that ride along the 15 foot ball screw. A pulley is attached to the ball nut and is driven by a high precision servo motor. The ballnut housing is fastened to, and drives, a 5 foot by 10 foot table. This is the X-axis that has to be told where it’s “home position” is, and also where the zero point for the work co-ordinates are. Obviously since I took it all apart, the old home and zero points are no longer valid, since nothing EVER goes back EXACTLY like it was before.

    We had to thread the screw through the machine and brackets and fasten each end to the machine frame without dinging this thing up. Remember it took three days to disassemble, precision polish, and re-assemble this thing, and it cost us $3200. So there’s no way I want it dinged up AT ALL. We were super careful…

    But it’s all together now, and I just have to do the homing procedures now. We might even cut parts today…

    Speaking of which, I need to finish lunch and go back to work!

    Thanks for thinking of me, and I know some of you prayed. I really appreciate it. It’s felt like a nightmare. But you all have been encouraging and I really appreciate it. Truly.

    Chat with you later!


  17. Thanks for the warm welcome!

    I live in rural Appalachia (just so you know, here it’s apple-at-cha). Sorry, couldn’t resist. Married, three children, two pets (an outdoor dog and an indoor psychotic parakeet). I’m not really a pet person so the pets are husband’s and kids’. I did have pets when I was younger, but I guess I grew out of it. My sisters are the same way so maybe it’s hereditary. Please don’t hold that against me! The two oldest children have plans and are trying to leave home if their plans work out. I know it’s necessary, but I hope they don’t go at the same time. The youngest is a 15 yr old boy, only a few days older than Kim’s BG, if I remember correctly. We homeschool. Most of the time it’s great and works for both of us, but those other times….

    We attend a small/medium Reformed Presbyterian church.

    It’s a beautiful area, and we’re happy to live here. Wonderful church, wonderful family, wonderful area!


  18. Okay, Meg, now the controversial questions; political affiliation, college football team preference, Praise music or traditional hymns, and (very important) how do you feel about pink flip flops?


  19. Meg, I’m glad you pronounced Appalachia for me. I’d always heard it pronounced Ap-pa-lay-sha when I was growing up (admittedly not in that area). But since having becoming a classical music aficionado, I was interested to hear that Aaron Copland’s piece Appalachian Spring is pronounced “Ap-pa-latch-un Spring” by most public radio program hosts I’ve heard, no matter their location.

    The pet thing: don’t worry, I’m not going to hold that against you! I know very little about our cats, and don’t interact with them much. My kids do, though, so I don’t worry about it; the animals get plenty of love. πŸ˜‰

    And this: We homeschool. Most of the time it’s great and works for both of us, but those other times…. I can definitely relate, and we’ll leave it at that. πŸ™‚


  20. Meg, here in Hendersonville, we know how to pronounce Appalachia. My youngest GD went to Appalachian State in Boone. That’s in NC, BTW.
    I’m glad I don’t have to worry about the color of flip flops.


  21. Is that anywhere near Appalachicola? πŸ˜‰

    For the rest of you, just consider me your source of obscure music. Most recently I provided the Johnny Horton music for Michelle to write her latest book.

    I have been TELLING you people that the iPod was schizo!


  22. I knew you’d know how to pronounce it, Chas! I’ve been to Boone a couple of times. I have a niece that lives near there. Very pretty country.

    Hmm, pink flip flops are very cute, but I don’t wear flip flops of any color. I can’t stand that thing between my toes.

    Political affiliation: I’ll give a hint. No Obama voters in this house.

    College football: Uh oh. More marks against me. Only youngest son watches sports. The others kinda sorta keep up with it but don’t watch regularly.

    Joe, I’m not sure what you mean by shaped note hymns. We sing traditional hymns with an occasional praise song thrown in. We use hymnals so if we sing a praise song, the words are printed out for us. No praise bands, no music leaders, just a piano and an organ with the pastor leading the songs. As I said, very traditional.

    I’ve really learned a lot from the discussions on here. I think it’s really, really cool that all these people from all over the world meet on here and talk and pray for one another, to have people praying for you that you’ve never met and some that you don’t even know exist. It’s really a special place I think.

    And I’ll add my thanks to AJ too for his work on this new site. You guys are a great bunch. Again, thanks for the warm welcome.


  23. I thought I would share this since this coming Sunday is the First Sunday in Advent. You do not have to be Anglican/Episcopal to participate in this.

    In Anglican worship it is customary to stand for praise, kneel for prayer, and sit for instruction.


    The Advent Wreath is a way to mark the time as we prepare for and anticipate the coming of the Lord – which culminates in the celebration of His First Coming. Our Advent wreath contains three purple candles and a pink candle. The fifth candle (center) is white and is the Christ Candle. It is put into the wreath and lighted on Christmas Eve. Each of the candles has a meaning: HOPE, PEACE, JOY (pink), and LOVE. On Christmas Eve, we light the white CHRIST candle. For the Sundays following Christmas, we are to light all candles until Epiphany on January 6th.


    WEEK 1
    The First candle we light in the Advent Wreath symbolizes Hope. Our hope is that the world’s true King will come again and that He will make all things right and all things new.

    He who came humble and riding on a donkey will come again in power and great glory; then, every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.


  24. BTW Meg, welcome. I am jealous of your name. Meg. I have the Little Women Doll Collection and Meg’s dress is purple and white striped. She was the first doll in the whole collection. My father bought her the day I was born and brought her to the hospital to me.

    Ya just can’t swing a dead cat without hitting a Kim!


  25. Hi Meg, it’s good to meet you. I hope you’ll chime in often.

    Kim, I love an Advent wreath. We always lit one at our Congregational church, but the denom we attend now isn’t big on those traditions.


  26. Shape music is interesting. I was working on a novel that featured it and bought a video demonstrating because reading about it didn’t make sense . My husband loved it (I can’t remember the title off hand), but the droning drove me crazy. I didn’t finish writing that one. πŸ™‚


  27. We have an Advent wreath at church, too, with the same candles.

    Yesterday we started our family Advent devotions, a tradition in our home that we’ve practiced for many years now. We use the book Countdown to Christmas: Devotions for Families. There are 27 Advent devotions, so we start every year on November 27, so that we get to the Christmas Eve and Christmas Day devotions on those days! Then there are 11 more devotions, and finally an Epiphany devotion to end the season. There are also cardstock ornaments corresponding to each of the devotions, which we add to our Christmas tree day by day.

    The kids have taken turns reading the devotions over the years, joining the rotation of readers when they developed enough reading skill to participate that way. Yesterday was the first time 5th Arrow joined in. Some of the words he needed a little help pronouncing, but overall he did quite well, reading fluently — a little too fluently in one spot.

    The devotion was about how during Advent, we prepare our hearts, homes and lives for Jesus’ birth. There was a sentence that read, Before you were born, a lot was done to prepare for your birth. It was pretty cute when he sailed right past the comma in that sentence and instead paused after the word lot, which was at the end of the line of type, making it sound like the sentence read, “Before you were born a lot…” Fourth Arrow got a little chuckle out of that, but 5th Arrow kept right on reading, undeterred.

    We haven’t done our devotion yet today, and 6th Arrow was claiming yesterday that today would be her turn to read, so we’ll see how that goes. She is five years old, and while she does know how to read a little, I’m thinking she’s going to need a little bit of help with this one! πŸ™‚


  28. I have seen shaped notes music when I was a kid. That was 65-70 years ago. As Joe’s link points out, it was called Stamps-Baxter music. The shaped notes were an easier way to learn the scale. You didn’t have to learn the place on the scale so much as the shape of the notes. The link gives a pretty good description of it. It’s been so long ago that I hardly remember. But it was interesting.


  29. Chas isn’t my real name, neither is Charlie. Nobody calls me by my name.
    Except Miss White, my HS English teacher. I always wondered why she said “Charles”. It wasn’t until I joined the AF that I learned that I had another name.
    But I always sign things with my real name.


  30. I’ve never sung with shape notes, but I have sung solfege with round notes. I think I recall seeing old hymnals with shape notes in them in my grandmother’s basement, where the piano was that I practiced on when I was growing up, but I didn’t know the meaning of the shapes. I got some of her music collection after she died, so I might have some of those hymnals here somewhere. I’ll have to try to dig those out. Or maybe I’ll buy some songbooks from Rod & Staff Publishers. I see in their catalog that they sell a lot of shape-note books.

    Drivesguy, Michelle, Chas, anyone else interested in more shape-note singing, this is for you.


  31. Chas, your story about your high school English teacher calling you by your name reminded me of one of my high school chemistry teachers, an instructor I and many others really enjoyed. All the boys in the class he would call by their last names only. All the girls in the class he would call “Miss [Last Name]”. EXCEPT for two of us. A girl named Janet, and me, he would call by our FIRST names only. I don’t know why that was, but that’s what he always did. Nobody said anything about it, and that’s just the way it was. πŸ™‚


  32. Hey y’all. Just to let you know The Machine is back to normal. We should be cutting parts tomorrow. Good thing. We’ve been down for quite a while. I think I’ll help cut parts until we get caught up….

    Thanks again for the prayers and encouragement.


  33. Well, we read our second Advent devotion tonight, and sure enough, 6th Arrow remembered that it was her turn to read tonight. She did surprisingly well. She needed help with some words, but not nearly as many as I would have guessed. She’s so inquisitive, though, that when she comes to a word whose meaning she doesn’t know, she immediately asks “What does that mean?” before finishing the sentence. πŸ™‚ Or when she came to a parenthetical phrase, she read it, then pointed to the closing parenthesis and wanted to know what that was. And then there are other tangents that she would love to go off on, like when she read about the Israelites walking in the desert, and she wanted to tell us about some big hairy spider. Don’t know what that was about — I told her she could tell us about that after the devotion was done, but we forgot to follow through on that one. πŸ˜‰


  34. Meg – Hi! That’s pretty neat that you’ve been reading our comment threads, & followed us over to this blog. (Or maybe it’s kinda creepy. πŸ˜‰ [Insert winky-smiley here, even though it will end up over on the left.] )

    6 Arrows – Cute story about 6th arrow. πŸ™‚


  35. 6 Arrows (9:17), πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

    OK, so I notice this huge, ugly, swollen bare spot on the cat today — vet says it’s an abscess (I think probably from that fight she was in about a week ago).

    They shaved it and gave her a shot, sent her home with antibiotics (and you know how successful I’ve been at medicating the cat) and an e-collar, better known as the cone of shame.

    She somehow managed to get out of the cone in her carrier on the ride home. When I tried to put it back on her at home, she scratched my arm (deeply) and is now hiding in the bedroom closet.

    My arm is treated with Neosporin and bandaged.

    The cone is sitting in the living room.

    We are both exhausted, not to mention frankly.

    Did I mention I’m on “vacation”?


  36. Some very frank statements there.

    Sorry about your arm, Donna. Not fun, and most definitely exhausting, dealing with all that. 😦

    I’ve seen those e-collars before (didn’t know they were called that, but it makes sense). But “the cone of shame” is a good name. πŸ™‚

    Hope administering the antibiotics goes better this time. πŸ˜‰


  37. QoD: First word that came to my mind, in relation to God, was church. I don’t know if that’s really what I associate most with God, or just that I spent this evening at church so it was at the front of my mind.


  38. BTW, Donna, I enjoyed the newspaper humor link from this morning. Takes me back to my high school journalism class.

    How long is your vacation? You deserve a longer one after your cat woes today. πŸ˜‰


  39. QOD: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control and eternity with Him thanks to His paying the price.

    I too appreciate the questions.


  40. Greetings from sunny Florida!

    Or it would be, but it’s dark out. It was a very cool thing to be standing in my snowy yard 6 hours ago to 70 and warm now.


    And we are really excited. We were going to stay at the All-Star Sports Resort. But the fine people at Disney had other plans. We paid for a value resort, but they upgraded the birthday girl Cheryl and her party to the Wilderness Lodge at no additional cost!

    How cool is that?


    It’s really nice. My wife was so happy she cried.


  41. There were shape note workshops held in our town several years ago.

    Enjoy AJ. It’s raining in Southern California for the next few days.

    Ah. The cat has emerged from hiding … she’s eyeing me warily. I need to wait to make my move.


  42. Michelle, I wonder about that, too. Today was really the first day I took a good look at shape-note music, and it just seemed like a lot of extra visual stuff to process, after simply being used to all round notes.

    I kind of wonder if it isn’t a little like learning to play the piano after having studied another instrument, reading two lines of music (and coordinating reading vertically as well as horizontally) instead of following a single staff. Probably easier, IMO, for most folks to start with the piano, as many do, then move to another instrument, rather than vice versa.

    Maybe I’ll teach 5th and 6th Arrows to sing using shape notes, since they don’t read music yet, and see how easily they pick it up compared to my oldest four who already read music. First I’ll have to learn shape-singing, though! Maybe the kids will teach me. πŸ™‚


  43. AJ, you and your family enjoy your time in Florida! And wow, six hours from Pennsylvania to Florida…you made good time. Hope you didn’t get pulled over. πŸ˜†

    (From your resident commenter who has never flown.)

    BTW, I could sneak onto those threads and get first! (Sneaky, sneaky.) But I won’t. I got first today on the daily thread, and the Californians deserve to have a shot at it, so I’ll just step out of the way…



  44. Is it 100 already? I just strung some bronze-colored snowflake lights (Target) along the fireplace mantel — but boy, did they ever tangle! — and I put some (fake but realistic looking) green garland up from last year.

    I’d already put up two rustic, metal angel figures, a star & one majestic, tall, brass/gold-colored angel, reading from the Bible. I’d bought her at one of our Christian bookstores during what must have been one of their last Christmases they were open.


    It’ll need some tweaking, but it has promise.


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