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“One of the advantages of being disorganized is that one is always having surprising discoveries.”
A.A. Milne
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It’s Friday! You know what that means.
It means the Y as soon as ol’ slowpoke gets to it.
It mans Lions
It means Friday comics.
But it doesn’t mean cutting grass, I did that yesterday.
🙂
It means I have to edit my posts more carefully so Cheryl & some others won’t make fun of me.
I live at 2400 feet and the altitude makes me lethargic at times.
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Morning Chas.
Friday means…… High School football! P’burg vs. Bridgewater tonight. Hope it doesn’t rain.
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I got an e-mail reminding me that I have prayer watch tonight.
It’s Friday.
It used to be that high schools had Friday to themselves for football.
Saturday was for colleges.
Sunday was for the pros.
TV changed all that.
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Good morning. Fridays are wonderful. For many years I worked a rotating shift (six days on, two days off) where any given day of the week could be my Friday. After many years of seniority I finally got a position where I had weekends off like much of the rest of the world. Not having to work on weekends is a blessing that too many of us take for granted.
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6Arrows,
Don’t worry about your post to me on the political thread last night. I have pretty thick skin. Politics brings out the emotions in all of us.
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Thank you, Kim. You can see now why I usually stay off that thread.
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Today’s quote is especially meaningful to me today, this week, for the next week…
What am I going to do with all of this and where am I going to put it…there is another load to bring in tonight after work.
JUST FOR HUMOR:
Last Christmas Santa Clause brought Amos (the Baby Dog/Puppy Dog Boy) some rawhide bones. He has had the same bone ever since. His little mouth really isn’t big enough to chew on it so he “buries” it all around the house. He just buried it in the club chair next to where I am sitting. This is after he couldn’t get the pillows on the sofa to cooperate.
Last night Moe, the cat, got out the front door. She is declawed so it really isn’t safe for her to be outside. Amos kept going over and staring at the front door. Finally I got up to see what was so fascinating and realized she was out. He is trying to take good care of his kitty cat.
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Photoguy, yes, weekends off is a great thing. What line of work are you in?
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Off to Bible study this morning. We’re in Philippians 4. Our little group of ladies meets twice a month for this study, but I should read that book every single day. I need it.
Have a good morning, all.
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6 arrows,
I meant no offense with my political comments yesterday. I was just throwing in my $.02 because in 1992 I did what you’re talking about doing and I’ve never been happy with the result.
Then again, I live in Ohio and it seems like it’s a battleground state every election. So I always feel like my vote really matters.
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AQOD: I asked this once on WMB. I was not really surprised by the answers I received, but I still regarded them with dismay. I will ask again here.
How many people regard the account in Genesis (Adam and Eve, and the Garden of Eden, and the forbidden fruit, etc.) as a literally true description of how the human race began?
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This will be no surprise, and I won’t be cute. I regard the theory of evolution as a much more likely explanation of the appearance of living animals in their present form, including human beings (who gradually developed from common ancestors of present day primates). The theory of evolution should not (in my opinion) be labeled as “Darwinism.” Science and empiricism leaves many questions unanswered (that may never be answered). When we don’t know an answer, it is preferable to say, “I don’t know,” than to make up an answer, or foolishly adopt answers others made up as a kind of spiritual “comfort food.”
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You going to be around next week, Kim? 🙂
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Yes, politics can get emotional for all of us. 😉 It’ll be over with soon, though, hang in there!
My vote in cali probably doesn’t matter one whit, meanwhile, I could write in my dog’s name if I wanted, it wouldn’t make a difference in the outcome. Either way, we’ll still come out a deep, royal-blue Obama state when it is all said and done.
Maybe Amos was wondering why the cat gets to just waltz out the front door like a free agent with no leash. Did Moe get back inside?
Have I said lately how much I’m coming to love my morning coffee?
That and Fridays, of course, what a wonderful day it is for many of us.
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I posted a link to this yesterday on FB.
For those of you familiar with RC Sproul’s ministry and theological writings, his disabled granddaughter died this week at age 15. Sounds as if it was not entriely unexpected, but their household has had been hit especially hard in the past few years with serious illness and death.
http://www.ligonier.org/blog/shannon-macfarlane-sproul/
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I love the quote of the day! I’m unorganized, but I’m not dirty. Bathrooms are cleaned once a week, but there are stacks of papers on my desk! I like a house to look lived in, not model perfect. Of course, I married a neat freak (he puts the little shoe trees in his shoes), so I’m much neater now than when I was single. I have to make a conscious effort, though. I’m not a visual person, so I really don’t notice clutter.
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Meanwhile, the price of gas has skyrocketed out here in our state over the past 24 hours — and supplies are low, with some stations and pumps closing down altogether, others seeing lines. 😦 😦 😦 Average cost of regular around my town is hovering around $4.65. That was yesterday, though. It’s probably higher today.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-03/california-gas-stations-begin-to-shut-on-record-high-spot-prices.html
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Annms, I loved the quote, too! 🙂
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6 arrows: I worked 28 years in the prison system, but have since retired from there and I’ve been self-employed as a photographer since my retirement.
I attempted to put my two cents worth in yesterday on the political thread, but my message failed to appear. Where I disagreed with your comment was on the possibility of Christians to hate, because I see Christians choosing to hate quite often while discussing politics. Unfortunately, many Christians feel that they are expressing righteous indignation when they tee off on people that they disagree with, but most bystanders recognize the venom coming forth from Christians and realize that (at least for the time being) there is very little difference between the angry Christians and the angry non-Christians. What I’m trying to say is that we choose to follow our old nature or our new nature every time we press the “Post Comment” key. Romans 12:2. One of the reasons that I rarely go to the political thread is because there we are exposed too the ugly side of believers.
I’m sorry for bringing the political thread here.
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Hmm. I may have missed something on the political thread, but I don’t recall spotting anything particularly out of line from yesterday. ?
I do agree, though, that as Christians, we always do need to check our attitudes. I remember struggling with that during the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal — and, at times, with the current incumbent, admittedly. That’s where praying for our leaders can really help put our heads and hearts right again.
“Hate” is a pretty strong word and not one I’d necessarily use about others’ attitudes, however, except in a really clear-cut case.
I think political discussions can be intense – and even legitimately heated – without crossing that line.
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Photoguy,
Sorry, it got grabbed by the Spam filter. It is up, I sent it thru late yesterday afternoon. Again, my apologies.
The Spam filter seems to pick one person a day to mess with. Adios, MiM, and now you. I don’t know what it’s problem is.
😦
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So do any of you who like the quote know who A.A. Milne is without Googling it?
Here’s a hint.
Bear, pig, tiger, kangaroos, and a donkey.
One of my favorites too.
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Good Morning, Y’all!
re: yesterday’s political discussion. I never got back to a computer to follow up…reading now, I didn’t think anyone was out of line either. Seems like we are usually able to state an opinion without being overly aggressive. That’s why I keep coming back.
6 Arrows…I have no idea how we will get to a multiparty system. Fully respect your principled vote, didn’t mean to imply otherwise.
As a teacher I really love Fridays…AFTER the last bell!
AJ – we had our game last night…shared stadiums are weird for scheduling. Team looks great…4 and 1 now!
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Seriously, AJ? Does anyone not know who AA Milne is would be a better question.
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Of course I know who A.A. Milne is…weirdly enough the first Milne book I read was a mystery called the Red House Mystery. The rest came later…
And thanks to Loggins and Messina for making me want to read the books…
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Because of the commentary here I went back and read yesterday’s politics thread. I have to agree with inbutnotof — you guys are being too hard on yourselves. There was no name calling or that kind of thing — looked respectful all the way around. It is ok to disagree!
That said, any Nats fans out there? I know there is at least one here who has a preference for the O’s.
AJ
Ti double guh er. Bouncy, flouncy, that guy cracks me up.
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Random,
What makes it “more likely” that man evolved gradually than that he was created all at once?
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Yes, Chas, it’s Friday, and I know what that means. Maybe this belongs on the Politics thread this week.
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Coyote,
Nat’s? Must be one of them minor league (NL) teams. Never heard of ’em.
🙂
For today at least, I’m a Rangers fan.
Then it’s back to the dark side. Go Yankees!
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Yeah! I can log in at school and have my avatar!
And Friday is high school football in these parts. My school plays the Illinois School for the Deaf tonight. The coach borrowed a huge base drum to get his players ready.
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Nats? Sounds like an annoying little bug! Go Braves!
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Photoguy are you familiar with the Kairos Ministry and if so what do you think of it?
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Loved that quote and it certainly applies to my household.
My question is, if you were one of the characters in the Winnie-the-Pooh books, which would you be? Or maybe even a cross between characters? At some points I have felt like Eeyore and at other times when the weather is just right like it has been lately in the Atlanta area, I feel a spring in my step, and I am like Tigger.
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Random, is your question about creation a serious question as in you are seeking to know the truth, or is it a question asked to give you some kind of ‘proof’ of the stupidity of people here who do not agree with your analysis? Or are you seeking to conquer and divide with your question and the various answers people here might give? Clue me in with your motive, and I may be inclined to answer. Thanks.
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Oh, H A P P Y D A Y S , for Kim & Mr. P!!!!! Who is doing a wedding cake?
Kim, that is a cute story about Amos and his kitty.
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Have you all seen this story?…
http://todayhealth.today.com/_news/2012/10/02/14186379-too-fat-for-tv-anchor-fires-back-at-critic-outpouring-ensues?chromedomain=dailynightly&lite
A man wrote an email to a lady TV news anchor who is overweight. His email said…
“Hi Jennifer,
“It’s unusual that I see your morning show, but I did so for a very short time today. I was surprised indeed to witness that your physical condition hasn’t improved for many years. Surely you don’t consider yourself a suitable example for this community’s young people, girls in particular. Obesity is one of the worst choices a person can make and one of the most dangerous habits to maintain. I leave you this note hoping that you’ll reconsider your responsibility as a local public personality to present and promote a healthy lifestyle.”
The anchor’s husband (also a news anchor) posted the email on his Facebook site, then his wife had a spot on the news where she publicly replied to it. She & others are referring to this email as bullying, & the writer as a bully.
I have been the target of teasing & bullying, but I have to say that I do not see this as bullying. Maybe it was not “nice”, but it was written in polite enough language, & was not bullying, in my view.
True bullying is a very bad thing, & very hurtful & damaging, but it seems like our society is now saying that anything that offends us in any way is bullying. It’s just not so.
I think I’m gonna go post this on Facebook, now. Toodles!
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Of course I am Kanga and you know who is Roo…
Then there are days I am confuzzled and just like dear old Winnie.
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photoguy,
I have worked two Kairos weekends. Like KimC, I would be interested to hear your thoughts on it.
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Inbutnotof
That was a good one. I keep telling my DC friends who are also Nats fans that they shoulda named ’em the feds — strike terror into the hearts of all their opponents 🙂
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Never liked nats. They swarm around your head, get in your face, yuk!
Go Tiggers! And Tigers!
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Janice: Or are you seeking to conquer and divide with your question and the various answers people here might give? Clue me in with your motive, and I may be inclined to answer. Thanks.
Hs motive is obvious. He is an atheist who regards Evangelical Christians as simple-minded fools. He used to make this abundantly clear, though, since he was booted from WorldMag blog and AJ has put him on notice here, he is playing a sly game of being civil. Fortunately, most on this blog pay him scant attention.
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Re yesterday’s political thread:
No need for anyone to apologize to me for any statements made concerning 3rd parties. I fully understood when I posted my comments that there may be disagreements stated in response. I didn’t feel personally attacked; I felt you were all responding to the topic and not to the person introducing the topic.
Photoguy, I saw your response to me on that thread a few hours after you posted it. Thank you for your gracious reply.
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First off, everyone deserves a second chance. As long as we’re respectful and not overly provacative, I don’t mind. Sometimes arguing with someone who completely disagrees with you can be helpful. If nothing else, it allows you to point out the flaws in their thinking. When you know what they think and why, it’s easier to show them why they’re wrong. They won’t learn if you don’t teach them.
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I think sometimes his AQod’s are fine, and I sometimes answer. Sometimes they’re obvious in their intent, and I disregard them, as most do. Years ago he thought we were worthy of nothing but disdain and ridicule. Whether he admits it or not, I think we’ve helped him see we are not always what the stereotype of Christians says we are. He’s too crotchety to admit it, but he likes us and wants to hear what we have to say. Why else would he keep coming back?
Contrary? Why yes, he’s Random, that’s his thing. But we love him and pray for him anyway.
Besides, everybody needs a crazy Uncle right?
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Kidding Random.
🙂
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Go Rangers!
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Karen, re: your link at 1:33.
I’m not sure I would call that bullying, either. However, speaking as a person who is very thin, if I were in the public eye and someone decided to call me a poor role model because of my appearance (like saying I was encouraging anorexia or something by my thinness), I would definitely call a remark of that nature extraordinarily inappropriate, especially by someone who did not know me personally.
Being a role model is a character issue and should not be tied to a person’s physical appearance, which is not always easy to change, despite our best efforts.
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Isn’t nats supposed to be guh-nats? 🙂
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Any college (or other course of study) recommendations for a young person interested in studying counseling? Her other major interest is dance.
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Tychicus, I’m a Baptist, but my favorite Christian university in Texas right now is ACU. Here’s a link:
http://www.acu.edu/academics/cas/psychology/degrees/index.html
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Allen, you are just plain mean.
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Tychicus: I received a master’s in social work, because I, too, was interested in counseling. I got my undergrad. in psychology. This is not a marketable degree. One must get their master’s to work in counseling. I recommend getting some kind of marketable degree while an undergraduate, with perhaps a minor in psychology, and then pursuing a master’s. That way, if the student wants to work for a few years before returning to graduate school, she is able to find a job. I do not recommend a social work degree. The programs are extremely liberal and usually antagonistic to Christian beliefs. I’ve heard (from some of my colleagues) that marriage and family or LPC programs are not quite as bad. ACU has a strong psychology department; I almost attended a master’s program there in neuropsychology, but ended up at the UT School of Social Work b/c of a boy (whom I eventually broke up with prior to meeting my husband!).
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Thanx for the comics Peter. Yeah, probably on the politics thread. But I enjoyed most of them. I doubt that Obama supporters did.
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ANNMS
Did you hear about the big fire at UT?
The library burned down. A pure shame!
Both books burned up.
And they hadn’t even been colored in!
Go Aggies!!
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Tychicus, depending on what the person is wanting to do with the studies, one source of courses would be the American Association of Christian Counselors. I think what they offer is solid and is used as Continuing Education courses for those in the field. If the person is just looking to see if their interest in the field is something they might want to pursue, this could be a relevant starting point. Here is the link: http://www.aacc.net/courses/biblical-counseling/
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I am definitely Kanga even if I don’t have a Roo. I usually have a peace-making, advice-giving role.
I can’t imagine that Random thinks that most, if not all, of us wouldn’t believe the biblical account. For me that takes less faith than believing that all of this just “happened” through some mysterious process and without a designer. I for one believe in a literal 6 day creation and a young earth. I think that just as the animals and Adam and Eve were created as mature creatures, so also was the earth created with the appearance of age. Of course, the flood and change of climate and even the curse also had aging effects just like a hard life ages a person.
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From Human Events
By: Audrey Hudson
10/5/2012 05:15 AM
The Obama administration’s plan to lock up nearly half of the National Petroleum Reserve from energy production has drawn criticism from key Alaska officials and Iñupiat Eskimos who say the plan is unacceptable and should be canceled.
The 23 million acre reserve on Alaska’s north slope was set aside by Congress 90 years ago to preserve the domestic supply of oil and gas, and critics say the proposal shelves the most prosperous lands.
“At a minimum, the administration’s proposed management plan would add uncertainty and delay development projects at a time when the U.S. badly needs both the energy and the jobs,” said Rep. Don Young (R-Alaska). “It begs the question, if we can’t develop (the reserve), where will this administration let us develop? Their proposed management plan is unacceptable to me and as long as I’m in Washington D.C., these recommendations will never see the light of day.”
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/05/obama-administration-to-withdraw-millions-of-alaska-acres-from-development/
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Thank you RW, annms, and Janice.
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Fifty-Seven!
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Bob Buckles: I thought that joke applied to Sooners! 🙂
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Which Winnie the Pooh character? Owl, although I don’t talk nearly as much as he does – but my family calls me a walking encyclopedia and I used to bore my peers with facts as a child.
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3rd and 4th Arrows and I cleaned and rearranged the living room this afternoon, and things look so much better! 5th Arrow came upstairs after we were finished and said, “This. room. is. WONDERFUL!” 🙂
Even if the rest of the house is a disaster, it’s amazing how soothing and peaceful it is to have ONE tidy area in the house.
On to make that TWO tidy areas now…
😉
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Notice: Atlanta is no longer a Southern city. That was a bad call, but there is no excuse for throwing trash on the field.
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Its Kim. Jerry(stepbrother) lands in a couple of hours. BG and I are on the way to the nursinghome. Toni (stepsister) is dying. Please pray for my stepmother. This is hard for her.
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Sorry that I wasn’t able to respond earlier, but I was helping out with my father-in-law most of the day and wasn’t near my laptop. I didn’t mean to infer that something hateful was posted in yesterdays political thread, but was only responding to a comment concerning the possibility of Christians to act in hatred toward something that extremely irritates them. By using the word hate, I’m referring to the Dictionary.com definition of the word “to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry.”
Maybe a more apt definition for us would be “any words that come out of our mouth or finger tips that does not line up with Galatians 5:22 – 24.” That’s a definition that is impossible for us to follow in our own strength, but one that I believe that we are more likely to access by His strength. I’m not trying to act holier than thou because I’m just as prone to lash out at things I dislike as the next guy.
I’ll give you an example of what I mean by hate in political threads. A few weeks ago I had a person looking over my shoulder as I read some of the posts on the political thread and one of the comments used the term “Demon-rats”. As soon as I saw it I tried to minimize the page because I had just been crowing to this unbeliever about this group of Christians who posted on here. I was too slow and the person looking over my shoulder asked me if Demon-rats was the Christian term for Democrats. I didn’t know that this person was a Democrat until this happened, but as you’d imagine it was a very embarrassing incident and it didn’t help the witness of Christians or this thread.
Kim C and Scott R: I’ve never worked with Kairos Ministry, but I have heard very encouraging things about that ministry. Prison Fellowship is more active up here.
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PhotoGuy, got it, thanks. And I agree — I know a couple of Democrats in my church and it can become rather sensitive for them during this political season.
Not that our church is very political, it’s not; we preach law and gospel, every Sunday; but probably most of the members are relatively conservative, both fiscally & especially socially, so there are assumptions sometimes that are made in small group discussion settings apart from the service …
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Karen, “bullying” is a word and a concept that’s getting entirely overused (and misapplied, as you point out). Being rude is not being a bully.
And I sense that it’s fast becoming a catch-all category for anything that’s not politically correct. 😦
I still remember posting a humorous photo last year that, OK, made some gentle fun of the “occupy” crowd. A colleague took major offense, accused the photo posted of being an example of “bullying.”
Huh? Really? I struck me as so entirely odd to come up with that kind of assessment of what I still say was some good-natured (but, yes, critical) ribbing of a movement.
Oh well.
Everyone’s thin-skinned these days.
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“One of the advantages of being disorganized is that one is always having surprising discoveries.”
A.A. Milne
Love the quote. I usually find something I’d given up finding when looking for another item I need. My desk at school is a mess, and my students tell me to look for something else when I can’t find what I need at the moment.
I guess if I were a character in the 100 Acre Wood I would be Rabbit. He and I are both a bit scatter brained and try to lead when we should follow.
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Janice wrote:
Random, is your question about creation a serious question as in you are seeking to know the truth, or is it a question asked to give you some kind of ‘proof’ of the stupidity of people here who do not agree with your analysis? Or are you seeking to conquer and divide with your question and the various answers people here might give? Clue me in with your motive, and I may be inclined to answer. Thanks.
Janice (and other people who wrote similar)
I don’t think my motive is to “convert” or convince you. After all, only God, Jesus, and HG can change my heart, and I am falling down on the job of opening my heart to them.
I think the world operates on empirical reality. I think it likely (based on empirical studies) that Whidbey Island (and nearby areas) will suffer a massive earthquake and tsunami before this century is over, so I try to persuade people to be prepared, though as you live elsewhere, I don’t think such a project applies to you.
In general, I don’t think the people who don’t agree with my analysis are “stupid.” I just think you are incorrect on those particular slivers of reality. If you present an argument based on empirical reality, you quite possibly might change my mind. When matters get down to opinions, values, and the like, we are quite literally up a creek.
Now as far as the intelligence and correctness of the person quoted in my next post, well, I will let him speak for himself.
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ATHENS, Ga. (AP) — Georgia Rep. Paul Broun said in videotaped remarks that evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory are “lies straight from the pit of hell” meant to convince people that they do not need a savior.
The Republican lawmaker made those comments during a speech Sept. 27 at a sportsman’s banquet at Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell. Broun, a medical doctor, is running for re-election in November unopposed by Democrats.
“God’s word is true,” Broun said, according to a video posted on the church’s website. “I’ve come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who are taught that from understanding that they need a savior.”
Broun also said that he believes the Earth is about 9,000 years old and that it was made in six days. Those beliefs are held by fundamentalist Christians who believe the creation accounts in the Bible are literally true.
Broun spokeswoman Meredith Griffanti told the Athens Banner-Herald (http://bit.ly/Us4O0Z ) that Broun was recorded speaking off-the-record to a church group about his religious beliefs. He sits on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.
It seems unlikely that Broun’s remarks were supposed to be kept private. The banquet was advertised, Broun spoke before an audience and the video of his remarks was posted on the church’s website.
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I am sure the representatives in the good gentleman’s district consider themselves fortunate to have him as their representative. For that matter, for all I know, someone reading this lives in his district.
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