47 thoughts on “News/Politics 10-23-24

  1. A couple of my daughters worked at McD’s and it would not be difficult to substantiate. It wouldn’t be difficult to find their former supervisors or the owner of the franchise. It would not be difficult to find people who worked with them. After all, every shift has numerous employees. I would think that any reporter who really wanted to find out, would be able to do so. I would also think that the campaign should be able to bring forth proof. It is bizarre, IMO. There’s a lot out there that is bizarre these days, though.

    It seems if Republicans are for Trump, it must be because of anti-intellectualism according to some. Just what I would expect from the elites.

    I am bright enough to know why some support Harris and why some support Trump and even why some want to bail from both (although, no doubt, one or the other will be elected). I don’t need to call them anti-intellectual. We do have a whole lot of people who are swayed by sound bites and by professors, for that matter. So goes the battle.

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  2. So much for “town hall” gatherings eh?

    Vice President Kamala Harris held an event in Michigan on Monday that was billed as a “town hall” — but when attendees asked if their questions were going to be answered, host Maria Shriver admitted that all of the questions had already been pre-determined.

    The Trump War Room posted a clip of Shriver’s embarrassing concession, adding the caption, “The host admits the audience can’t actually ask questions at Kamala’s fake ‘town hall’ with Loser War Hawk Liz Cheney because the questions are ‘pre-determined.’”

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  3. The fine for Giuliani seems ridiculous. He should not have said what he said, but really over 400 million? It seems more about punishing the rich. Or more accurately, someone who supported Trump.

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  4. It is being reported that hundreds of ballots thus far have been “lost” by USPS in our region. Yes THAT USPS… you know the one with a union backing Harris! No fraud suspected… so says the postmaster. Voters being told to wait until next Monday to see if they show up! Can’t make this stuff up and they are shamelessly not trying to hide it any longer!

    As far as Harris and her lies trying to connect with commoners. The press can dig up what Trump had for dinner 20 years ago but they cannot substantiate whether or not she worked fast food? They certainly could find out where I worked as a teen even if I didn’t include it on a resume.

    And there have been recent posts here which seem to imply some aren’t people of intellect when it comes to critical thinking. You cry cut it out with implied insults?

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  5. The Atlantic is birdcage liner. It’s useless, NeverTrump trash.

    https://x.com/FDRLST/status/1848914231980073398?t=3fzSgpkH_zTTXlv8N3e7eg&s=19

    “Sister Of Deceased Soldier Blasts The Atlantic For Latest Anti-Trump Fabrications”

    —–

    https://x.com/johnrobertsFox/status/1849067562853655032?t=UCkAGpf6RZ–m6eSs0NNBg&s=19

    “I was in the Oval Office (pool correspondent) the day Vanessa Guillen’s family visited. The meeting was somber, respectful, and according to Vanessa’s sister Mayra, very much appreciated. @mguilen_

    @FoxNews The Atlantic report alleging Trump disparaged slain Army private blasted by family, others: ‘Absolutely false'”

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  6. Speaking from the outside, as a not employed person, my understanding of applications and resumes is that the potential employer is looking for work ethic and interest and training, especially in those initial employments. So it would make sense to add what you have done in reverse order back ten years, including babysitting, paper routes, Sears, anything that indicates a willingness to work. Large blanks would be concerning. How long does college take anyway?

    mumsee

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  7. The (employment) blanks are a concern only after one is out of school (college), I believe. Some people have jobs while going to school, but once you’re out then employers want to know what you’ve done.

    At least that’s what I can recall from way-way-WAY back in the dark ages, as Michelle would put it.

    I’m not following this election like the rest of you are so I don’t know much about the McDonalds uproar. Sorta glad about that.

    Two weeks to go and this horrible, torturous election will be over. We hope. But the endless arguing will still probably go on.

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  8. I never included high school jobs on resumes after I finished college, so no problem with her not mentioning it on applications and such for professional level work. I am sure that son did not list his lawn mowing job on any applications, CVs, etc.,lol

    But in a book about one’s life it would have been nice to put Mickey D’s in there because so many readers could have related to that. That would be the only questionable thing to me. Why not in the book? But books are limited in word count so maybe that was in the original draft and got cut.

    It seems more likely to me that as a professional in the legal world with many wealthy peers in her profession that she would not have wanted to admit to being in a job like that. But when it came to wanting Everyman’s vote, she became the Mickey D’s employee.

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  9. I don’t know, there are a lot of co-snack bar people who have now gone their own ways in my life (1 is still a FB friend, though we don’t connect particularly). Would you remember a name or make a connection so many years later that was “Oh, I knew her!” Likely not? Those places see part-time workers come and go and often in short periods of time.

    Oh no, here I am also talking about the McDonald’s “scandal”. Please let this election be over already … 😦

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  10. The fascination with McD’s employment is weird. Trump won’t release his medical information but people want proof Harris worked at McD’s in high school? This election never ceases to be bizarre

    Now that I’m retired and looking for part time temporary jobs to pay for trips, I’m not including anything other than my teacher career on my resume. Admittedly if I was running for office, I would mention my working class roots.

    kathaleena – you mentioned “anti-intellectualism”. Since I brought the term up yesterday, I want to clarify that it wasn’t directed at anyone here specifically. In the context of the media, some people take pride in ignoring the MSM and instead listen to some youtuber or anonymous twitter account. I wasn’t people’s votes rather how they used media.

    NJ – “town halls” have always been a bit of a farce – not much different than “reality” TV, although both have become more farcical over time. Trump’s townhall with Gov Noem was a farce featuring Trump dancing to various renditions of Ava Maria. I’m surprised Harris’s is bothering with a dog and pony show at this time – most people have made up their minds or should have; its now about getting people to the polls.

    Apparently, women are voting early and in large numbers. This bodes well for Harris.

    hrw

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  11. The care isn’t that she worked at McD’s or not. It is whether it is true or not. We always hear when Trump ‘lies.’ Lots of fact checking there, but not vice versa. I don’t mind any true fact checking myself. Nor do I think it is the biggest deal in the world.

    Most people who work at a McD’s do so in their own neighborhood, so to speak. Our closest one is about 15 miles away. Many live even closer. So, some people you work with are fellow students or acquaintances. You may not be in touch with those you worked with, but if it were for any decent period of time, I would think you could come up with a couple of names. It has been over 50 yrs. since I worked at a department store, and I could come up with some names.

    I do agree that what you put on a resume will vary. Janice, that is a good point about her book, though. I would think that would be a first job, which would make it even more memorable.

    Trump’s comment that he wouldn’t mind working there is laughable. Doing something for a short time is easy. So is working at a place when you know you don’t have to do so.

    Politics are very strange these days.

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  12. I used Mickey D’s for a reason! It is Black slang which she could have used but didn’t, getting back to the question, “Who is she, really?”

    From Wiki:

    Mickey D’s” is a slang nickname for McDonald’s that originated in the Black community in the United States as early as 1976. The McDonald’s Corporation adopted the mark in 1981 and obtained a federal trademark registration for it in 1984. The company’s use of the mark was likely part of a strategy to promote the restaurant chain back to the community from which the name emerged. 

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  13. News on WNC on Facebook from a Christian writer. Some may discount this as news, but for some of us it is valid and trustworthy news.

    Pepper Basham wrote:

    “For some of us in WNC, life has gotten back into a “sort-of” normal pattern again, but there are many (too many) still struggling with the most basic of things like a roof over their heads or the loss of a loved one. One of my coworkers attended the first of thirteen funerals this weekend for the SAME family.

    Appalachian folks tend to build on family land so then live near one another. In the case of these flash floods or landslides, numerous houses within the same family are taken down at once, and since many of these landslides happened early in the morning, the people were inside the houses.

    Also many Appalachian folks love their land. It’s been home for a long time, so even if their houses are gone, they will try to find a way to stay there (which is why, in some cases, you guys are seeing tents pop up where houses used to stand). The people would rather be on “their land” than somewhere else. This land is SUCH a part of our hearts.

    For those of us who are trying to get into a regular schedule, we are still managing the daily griefs of, not only the continued news, but the visual reminders all around us of what has happened. It’s a weird sort of consistent grief and a little bit of survival/not as bad as others guilt too. Most houses around here still don’t have drinkable water (except in bottled form) and some are still without electricity and water. WIFI and internet are coming back to some areas, but even in places close to town, it can be inconsistent. I have text messages that aren’t arriving until the day after they’re sent or mine are not being received (so please be gracious with those of us if we don’t respond. You might need to try again).

    I am so grateful for all the linemen, rescue workers, water workers, and volunteers. There is NO WAY this part of the world could have made the progress is has without a WHOLE lot of hands making the work lighter. There are still many places in more remote areas having the biggest difficulties and recovery efforts are still ongoing, but there are also so many wonderful people continuing to pour their love, support, and helping hands into these communities.

    Again, I’m reminded of the verse “many waters cannot quench love, neither can the floods drown it”. We keep seeing love grow and spread. Please continue those prayers coming. Grief will be long, but hope will outlive it.

    THANK YOU!!!”

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  14. HRW: The fascination with McD’s employment is weird.

    🙂 lol

    It all gets weird in these US election years. 🙂 It’s pretty much a given.

    As for people – male or female – voting for one candidate or another, I guess I don’t really “know” that many people right now, at least not enough to dare bring up our volatile politics. 🙂

    It’s still a toss-up.

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  15. Pres. Trump has made historic gains with black and Latino voters – it’s not near as close as the msm is desperate to make it out to be.

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  16. It is a toss up as I see it, too. However that tossed said falls 🙂

    I know God knows the outcome but the rest of the people on the planet can speculate as much as they want but they can’t know. We might as well talk about Mickey D’s for all th we difference it makes!

    Mickey D’s is more of a personal interest story that brings back memories of first jobs for everyone. Most had jobs alongside people they were in school with and that was a well known and not easily forgotten group. I still remember who I worked with from my high school weekend job at the IRS processing center for our large southern district.

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  17. I am now recalling that tremendously long government application that had to be filled out to work for IRS. It was a job in itself to fill that out, and I was a high school student with hardly any experience and no moves.

    AJ probably had to fill out a very long form to serve in the military. And I think teachers also have to fill out very detailed forms.

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  18. Both sides of the internet complain that the “other” leader isn’t fact check enough. A big complaint I heard for quite a while was the lack of scrutiny on Trump’s relationship with Epstein. He said he barely knew him – the Epstein files etc seem to indicate something else. In my humble opinion, McD’s fact checking is a weird hill to die on. Its her record on marijuana which annoys me more.

    Never knew Mickey D’s was originally African American slang. Learn something new everyday. I’ve heard that term for decades so I’m sure its universal at this point

    hrw

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  19. Janice – Maybe talking about Mickey D’s instead of politics is a good idea! If you were to go there for dinner this evening, what do you think you would order?

    We don’t go often, and when we do, it is usually Nightingale picking up a quick dinner for us and bringing it home due to tiredness or time constraints.

    I usually get the Quarter Pounder with Cheese and fries. Very rarely, I might get a Big Mac, but again, that is very rarely – maybe once every few years. And usually because Nightingale decided I would like one. 😀 I like their Filet-o-Fish sandwich, too.

    Gotta say, though, that between McDonald’s and Burger King, I prefer Burger King. In my little family, we all think that BK’s fries are better than McDonald’s fries.

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  20. I’m craving the fish sandwich at McDonald’s – with the fries ever since the news clip of fry-making the other day.

    I have no horse in this (presidential) election race so I’m not following it all that closely. We have a very long ballot here, though, and I need to start going through that.

    Ultrafrog?

    🙂

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  21. The gender gap is larger for Trump than for Harris. It may be the defining demographic of the campaign. In 2020, women voted +11% for Democrats. The only demographic Republicans win is white men (+17) and white women (+8). Although Republicans have made some inroads with Hispanic and Black men, its relatively minor. Black women voted +90 for Biden and Black men were at +75. Hispanic women voted +32 and men at +18. Republicans should do better here — Hispanic like a social conservative message.

    By age, the Republican base is dying. When young people vote, Democrats win. Young people especially women are voting more in recent elections. When the Democrats score +26 to + 37, this is important. The only young people to vote Republican are white men.

    In sum, the more young people and the more women voting mean Harris will do better than expected.

    Tychicus — there’s some truth to the media wanting it to be close in order to keep people looking at their screens, it actually is really close. One cannot have every polling company in a conspiracy — that would be too big and to complicated.

    hrw

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  22. I have eaten more Filet-o-Fish sandwiches than anything else there except for Hot Apple Pies and Hot Fudge Sundaes. Oh, and sausage biscuits. There was a franchise around the corner from Art’s office so we would swing by and get the biscuits for breakfast or fish sandwiches for lunch. I may have indulged a few times and gotten two fish sandwiches for the same meal. Light tartar sauce, please. Otherwise a big mess!

    When I heard that the breading on the fish sandwiches might include some sawdust, I revised my opinion of the sandwiches.

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  23. Haven’t eaten at one of those places in about thirty years.

    Just got done going through the local voter’s guide with eighteen year old. We looked at each candidate and the stances presented as well as propositions. He is quite interested in news, world events, politics so was already well informed. He was able to articulate his opinions and reasons for each. I would call him a well informed voter. He is also young and Hispanic. He will not be voting for Harris.

    mumsee

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  24. Sawdust fish? Or E Coli burger?

    It’s a dilemma.

    And to HRW’s point, polls are now remarkably reflecting similar numbers which would defy even the most amazing conspiracy plot that could be concocted.

    Polls are polls, of course, and we can still be surprised on Election Day. But as things stand, it does seem to be quite a toss up (to predict).

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  25. As one site put it:

    ~ Nobody knows what is going to happen, and none of these trends are definitive one way or the other. The early voting data tells us only what we already knew: A lot of people are going to vote in this election, and both parties are successfully motivating their bases. ~

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  26. When I worked at McDonald’s, which was likely a few years more recent than when Harris did (since she’s three years older than I am and I didn’t work there in high school but after I graduated), the staff was nearly all teenagers. The turnover was high, and we called everyone by first names. We had about 70 employees at any one time, and average length of employment was three months and I think I made 14 months, and that means I overlapped roughly 300-350 people. My store manager died quite a few years ago, and I don’t remember the full names of anyone who worked there other than my sister and another girl who got an apartment with us for a year after all of us had left McDonald’s. Oh, and the French fry lady–that’s been another angle of the story (which I haven’t heard in its completion either, including never hearing why it’s a “story” at all), that McDonald’s doesn’t have people who focus on cooking French fries, as perhaps Kamala alleged she did? I worked at the largest McDonald’s in Arizona (we were a test store for the concept of two-window drive-thrus), and we were busy enough that during the lunch rush we had someone who manned the French fry station. Before the store opened, that lady made salads, then she made biscuits during breakfast, then I think she did miscellaneous tasks in the morning (cleaning the dining room, getting food from the freezer), then she worked French fries, and then she left for the day. (She didn’t work grill or counter.)

    If I were asked to name some co-workers who could verify I worked there, I’d be able to tell you the first and last names, and married name, of the one young woman with whom I shared an apartment (but I haven’t been in touch with her for 30 years and haven’t been able to “find” her online); my sister; one “French fry” woman who was in her forties when I was a teenager and had health issues even then; and the first names of three managers. I’d be able to tell you the first names of a pair of teenager identical twins who worked there. While writing this, I remembered the last name of another manager, and googled her. She died ten years ago, and her obituary doesn’t mention McDonald’s.

    The job I held after McDonald’s was a full-time job with benefits, and I worked there for more than two years. But the company went under decades ago, and I doubt anyone but the IRS has any record of my employment there.

    Again, I haven’t heard why this particular petty detail is even being fact-checked at all. There are some really, really big stories in this election cycle, but this isn’t one of them. Focusing on such things makes the Republicans look petty. (If we have proof she lied, that might be a different matter, but again, we have much bigger issues in this race.)

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  27. For all the big issues of the race, here in Georgia, we hear about them all over and over, day in and day out. McDonalds has been a fun diversion for me as it has reminded me of past employment I had not thought of in years. And I have learned a little bit of the Wanderers past history which has been nice.

    As for whether she has been honest about it, there are so many more life and death issues that have probably been lied about that this would be a drop in the b

    I did hear today someone say that 55,000 voters had switched from Dem to Republican in PA for this election. I have no idea if it is true. That sounded like a substantial number to me.

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  28. Trump is speaking at a huge rally here in a nearby county. My friend was up that way to meet a friend for a meal and said Trump signs wew all over the place.

    On my short walk I saw another Harris sign had sprouted in a yard.

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  29. Amazing lineup at the rally tonight: RFKennedy, Jr., Tucker Carlson, Tulsi Gabhart, Ben Carson, Charlie Kirk, among others. Never thought they’d all be in one place at the same time.

    45 pastors prayed behind the scenes.

    Sorry if I offended by mentioning the T word.

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