43 thoughts on “News/Politics 9-12-24”

  4. It sad really. ABC knows its happening, and that it’s the extremist view, yet they lie and say it’s not happening.

    They did it with the pets being eaten, and the late term abortions.

    I’ve come to expect it from sources like them, but nonetheless it’s disheartening when “conservative” outlets like the WSJ play along with their lies, all based on the alleged “fact check” from some local Democrat.

    The police body cam footage, 911 tapes, and testimony of residents are all available with a quick internet search. I’ve posted them here. Yet the WSJ and ABC don’t do the research before spouting lies easily disproven?

    This is why people don’t trust the media.

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  6. As for their late term abortion lies…..

    Democrats voted against a bill that would protect those born alive, ON THE RECORD!

    Every Dem voted for late term abortion except one, who voted present.

    Yet ABC can’t find this info?

    They know dems support it, they know its extreme, and they’re lying intentionally to get Kamala elected.

    https://x.com/AnnCoulter/status/1833678784396234814?t=PlGFEtJZFinYGUbd4AIyGQ&s=19

    “Here are the names of the congressional Democrats who voted to allow doctors to kill babies AFTER BIRTH.”

    #ABCLies

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    https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202329

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  8. Want to know what’s really happening in Springfield? The eating pets is minor. A 242% increase in crime in 3 years. Unsafe for women and girls to walk on the streets. This is what they plan for all of America.

    Click the link and read the thread. It’s disgusting, and it’s all Joe and Kamala’s fault.

    And then ask yourself why our broken media isn’t reporting on it.

    https://x.com/America_2100/status/1832525922827956666?t=Wul8ozKZNPw5TH9yausHtw&s=19

    “Springfield, Ohio is a working-class manufacturing town.

    As of 2020, it was home to 58,106 people. 98% were U.S. citizens.

    In 1983, Newsweek devoted its 50th anniversary edition to Springfield, titled “The American Dream.”

    Immigration is changing its way of life forever. 🧵”

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  9. Rick Erickson is a liar and victim shaming?

    Why am I not shocked…..?

    But the WSJ thought he was a quotable fella they could use to push their NeverTrump agenda.

    https://x.com/yesnicksearcy/status/1833969056417788327?t=nbVTQQB0qeMVxujyq1Aiuw&s=19

    “This is a lie from @EWErickson. Ashli was trying to stop Zachary Alam, who was breaking a window at the Capitol building. Ashli Babbitt at no time broke anything at the Capitol before she was murdered by Michael Byrd. All of this is shown, in complete context in” warontruthmovie.com

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  11. By their fruits you will know them.

    Their fruit is rotten to the core.

    https://x.com/RogerSeverino_/status/1833681528729088508?t=3JRfTk1zil_4u5w5i9zirw&s=19

    “Harris is dead wrong. Some babies do survive abortions and can be saved but are denied life-saving treatment, including under Walz’s watch (👇). Harris even voted against the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act to defend these babies. Unconscionable.”

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    https://x.com/RogerSeverino_/status/1820891037574774803?t=mYiSAHkYGhYSiEYc-ZP_-Q&s=19

    “Trump was 💯% correct. Post-birth abortion is real and Harris-Walz support it. At least 5 babies were born alive after botched abortions and left to die under Walz’s watch. Two of these struggling babies were given “comfort care” instead of medical care allegedly in violation of state law.

    How did Walz respond? By repealing the very law exposing and outlawing this horror and replacing it with abortion-on-demand on the front end, and infanticide on the back end.

    Here are the bone-chilling receipts. 👇”

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  12. God knows all, sees all, and is not surprised by any of it. They think they get away with it, but there will be an eternal price to pay for those who continue onward in this wave of blatant sin and deceit, never repentant. We need to look to Him and give praise and thanksgiving despite what we see happening all around us. He has His unforeseen ways to get divine justice. We need more prayers and less complaints. Complaining never changed a thing. God hears prayers and responds in His timing to the heartfelt cries of believer’s hearts who are abiding in Christ.

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  13. “So when does ABC apologize to Trump?”

    Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost on Wednesday accused the “media” of ignoring evidence surrounding claims Springfield, Ohio residents are having their pets abducted and eaten.””

    https://x.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1833932799713361985?t=TmYFNn-MMEmcruv82CTNGA&s=19

    I imagine they’ll get around to apologizing for that soon. Right after they apologize for the Russia hoax, the fine people hoax, the pee tape hoax, the Hunter laptop hoax, the Jan6 hoax …. etc, etc…

    So never. Being a “journalist” means you never have to apologize for lying. Heck, you might even get a Pulitzer for it.

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  14. ABC needs to learn how to do internet searches.

    Or, they already know how and would rather just fudge the truth to fit their agenda of getting Kamala elected.

    I’m going with B. Final answer.

    https://x.com/emmma_camp_/status/1833889506908405885?t=S-XkoZp2K-vBdm5SA2ukmw&s=19

    “9 states and DC place no gestational limit on abortion. A quick Google search turns up clinics here in DC that provide abortions up to 36 and 32 weeks.

    @TheAtlantic interviewed a doctor who performs 32+ week abortions, and about half his patients have healthy babies.”

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  15. Old news (the debate) by now, but from Kimberley Strassel’s take yesterday:

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    ~ Trump Barely Swings—And Misses

    Millions of Americans on Tuesday tuned in to what was likely the only debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. That’s good news for the Democrat, who rarely allows unscripted moments, but made this one count.

    The media swoon over her performance is (predictably) overwrought; she didn’t knock it out of the park, and he didn’t collapse.  The entire evening is better described as a string of lost opportunities for the Republican. This was Trump’s opportunity to press her to answer for the failings of Joe Biden’s administration and to pin her on the reality of her agenda. Consider his misses:

    (… she goaded him, she sidestepped, her flip-flops, her past-his future, the moderators …)

    … Dept. of Conventional Wisdom: Still, it’s unclear if the debate will move the needle much in close polls. Harris’s momentum stalled out after Labor Day, and the main polling average sites show all seven battlegrounds within three points in either direction. Harris has closed the enthusiasm and favorability gap with Trump, though remains highly vulnerable on the economy (Trump: +8) and the mood of the country (only 29% believe it’s on the right track).

    A significant majority of voters have already chosen a side and probably saw enough from their preferred candidate to keep them on board. As for swing voters, it’s not clear how they viewed a Tuesday slugfest that was messy and at times even boring and didn’t answer the questions and anxieties many people have about the future. … ~

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    And on it goes. ‘Tis the season.

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  17. ~ Former President Donald Trump has lost his edge in Georgia and North Carolina in the latest Fox News Power Rankings, giving Vice President Kamala Harris a lead in the overall forecast for the first time. 

    However, with six toss-up states on the map worth a combined 78 electoral votes, this election is still anyone’s game. ~

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  19. The legacy media folks are embarrassing themselves again. Kamala won? If so, then why haven’t the betting markets changed at all? Why hasn’t the overnight polling moved? Where are the snapshots and terrific soundbites? Why did so many undecided folks like what Pres. Trump had to say, and why are they leaning his way? Why is the Harris campaign now pushing for a debate on Fox News of all places?

    Whenever Kamala was given a question, she would lie, or she would avoid answering the question and go off on a tangent (usually with an attack on Pres. Trump). She simply can’t defend her terrible record.

    Those facial expressions that she was trained to do when Pres. Trump was speaking made her look obnoxious. While Pres. Trump was talking about how her policies have destroyed people’s lives, the split screen was showing her snobby expressions. Pitiful. Those are the snapshots that will be remembered, along with Trump’s soundbites on key points.

    ABC was insufferable. After last night, Republicans should boycott ABC – forever.

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  20. hello,

    Watched parts of debate with my dutch family.

    Harris won the minute she walked in. She came in confident and searched Trump out for a handshake. He walked to his podium, avoided the centre stage and then looked haggard even before it started.

    Through out the debate, she was confident and energetic. She looked at him while he spoke and alternated between the camera and him while she spoke.

    He avoided looking at her. He raised his voice and at times was shaking. He ignored her when she spoke, closing his eyes and wore a forced smile. She looked ready to work a 12 hour day. He looked ready for a nap.

    Henry

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  21. The moderators fact checked him a few times. He should have expected this as CNN came under criticism for not fact checking.

    They allowed him more time to reply and gave him five minutes more to speak than Harris. His staff probably wished ABC would have cut him off.

    ABC also let him avoid the question. The infamous dog and cat comment came as he was ignoring the question of why he asked Republucans to stop the border bill. Again his staff probably wished ABC redirected him.

    Harris also demonstrated how easy it was to manipulate and side track him. Her comments on his rallies and J6 led him to again make comments his advisers wish he didn’t. He completely lost focus.

    She did her homework and was ready not only with policy statements but with comments designed to bait and set him off. He didn’t do his homework and it showed. No effort, no work and it showed.

    Henry

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  22. 30 – 40 years ago, people spread rumors about East Asian restaurants using cats for egg roll and won ton meat. Colleagues in the restaurant industry swore up and down this was happening, complaints were lodged with public health, etc. Yet there was no verified occurrence.

    The past accusations occured to me when I heard Trump’s accusation. It’s recycling and as before I’m sure complaints are being/were lodged with the authorities. But as the Ohio governor said, there’s no verified case of pets.

    Ducks and geese might be a different story. I’ve known college students who grabbed a duck from the pond. I’ve also know Italian and Portuguese immigrants who helped themselves to some pigeons. Then again are Republicans now against duck hunting?

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  23. Posted by Challies this morning:

    ~ It is an interesting thought experiment to consider how 9/11 would have been different if Twitter had existed at the time. “For a time, 9/11 brought everyone together. You saw American flags everywhere. On bumpers. In gardens. On television. I didn’t grow up in a vociferously patriotic family, but we were still caught up in a sense of solidarity with our nation. I saw a rush of patriotism that overwhelmed partisanship, and even as a teenager, I knew this was something unusual, something beautiful and even good.” That would probably not be the case today. ~

    From the link he provided, looking at where we are now via social media:

    ~ … If the towers fell today, thousands of videos would be filmed with frightened commentary, posted online, shared, dissected, and conspiratorialized. Algorithmic systems guided by the best interest of platforms would surface not the most helpful or truthful takes but the most entertaining, controversial, and viral. Inevitably, that virality passes along tribalistic lines: conservatives getting one story, liberals a different one, moderates a third. Every digital microculture would pulse and thrum with its own version of what took place, and each version would resonate with that microculture’s vibe and narrative. …

    If you don’t believe me, I need only remind you that for a month in 2023, there was a massive TikTok trend of people reading Osama bin Laden’s “Letter to America” (in which he justified murdering thousands of people) and weeping because they realized he was right. 

    Or consider the response to the assassination attempt of Donald Trump. On the right, conspiracy theories bubbled: this was an attack by Biden or the deep state. On the left, people posted their profound disappointment that the shooter missed, and shared their own conspiracy theories: that Trump’s campaign staged the attack. At one point, one in three Biden supporters believed the conspiracy!

    As these stories illustrate, social media never delivered on its promise to bring people together. Instead, it’s proven itself adept at the opposite. And the online sickness isn’t quarantined: it’s infected the very journalistic institutions that once had a semblance of propriety. If you do a quick search of “Trump assassination conspiracies” on the New York Times, you’ll discover that they only challenge the conspiracies of the right. If you do the same on Fox, the opposite is true. This is precisely because they need social media platforms to drive traffic, and that means they have to play social media’s tribalistic game. They fall prey to audience capture—the point at which your audience’s interests and outlooks determine your own interests and outlooks. … ~

    https://www.endeavorwithus.com/if-the-twin-towers-fell-after-twitter?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzEmail&utm_campaign=Daily_2024-09-12_04:30:00&utm_content=5575

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  24. PS: The author of my above link @2:22, a pastor concluded. Overstated? Perhaps. But he surely has a fair point – and yes, we do have a very big problem here:

    ~ I pray that God never allows a tragedy like 9/11 to happen again. But I pray more fervently today than I did five years ago, because we aren’t well. The body politic is sick. The digital rot runs from sea to shining sea. ~

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  25. The abortion debate is a winning issue for Democrats. And again, Trump repeated comments that are taken as true in his bubble and at his rallies but are not part of the discourse elsewhere.

    Democrats have successful framed the issue as one of freedom. Hence, they will vote against almost any regulation especially ones the see as p.r. stunts by Republicans.

    As much as AJ and others will point out the specifics of Trump’s allegations, it misses the point. Democrats have framed the issue and the people agree with it. It’s a bit ironic, Republicans have constantly criticized the ACA etc as govt intruding on people’s decisions. And now it’s the Democrats claiming that narrative.

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  26. the abortion comment is how

    Looking at the polls;

    Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, Nevada and Arizona are all in a dead heat. The rest of the country won’t even know there’s an election. Even Maine and Omah districts are decided (Democrats).

    it will be interesting to see polls in three days to see if the debate had an effect. My guess….Penn, Georgia and Nevada will go Dem. Subject to change….right now I don’t have the same level of confidence as I did in 2020

    Right now it’s raining cats and dogs memes, but I’ve seen a few “concept of a plan” memes. How the Republicans will end the social media onslaught remains to be seen. Hint; they won’t do it by arguing the specifics. All that does remind people.

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  28. Welcome back, HRW, the poster of many names.

    Via WSJ:

    ~ We Asked Undecided Voters Who Won the Trump-Harris DebateMost agree on the winner but remain set in their views about the two candidates

    WASHINGTON—Many undecided voters were hoping the debate Tuesday night between Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trumpwould help guide them on how to cast their ballots.

    In interviews with The Wall Street Journal, a handful of voters in battleground states broadly agreed that Trump appeared rattled by Harris, who repeatedly goaded him into veering him off course, including by saying that some people got bored at his rallies and left early.

    Yet most said the debate didn’t shake their previously held notions about Trump and Harris and where they stand on issues such as the economy, immigration and conflicts overseas. … ~

    https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/harris-trump-debate-who-won-voters-react-946ad11e?mod=hp_lead_pos8

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  32. That video is not about the debate. It is about one video that is going around of a woman being arrested for killing and eating a cat. She was not Haitian, but rather an American, and it was not in Springfield. The assumption is that she may be mentally ill.

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  33. Donald Trump on his social media site (reported via NYT earlier today) said he wouldn’t debate Kamala Harris again.

    Re the pet killing story, we’d have to find and produce for our editors police reports and/or other original documents from official agencies handling those incidents — and/or get officials formally on the record confirming it. Part of the important process of checking facts.

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  35. Of course, officials can always deny facts, dj, when they want to do so. We have seen many governments that do that. We have seen it in our country at various times. If you have many witnesses saying one thing and an official another, should you automatically take the word of the official?

    I can tell you that the fines for illegally taking game can be large. I had an uncle shot in the face for trying to arrest some duck hunters when he was a conservation officer. Maybe they need more of those officers patrolling the city ponds.

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  36. Former Ohio State Rep. Kyle Koehler (

    @repkoehler) has made SHOCKING revelations about the illegal Haitian crisis in Springfield, Ohio during a recent speech. 1.) The Haitian illegals in Ohio are given $600-$1600 per month on Debit Cards through the Refugee Cash Assistant Program. 2.) There have been nearly 20,000 Haitan illegals re-located to Springfield, Ohio. 3.) The local school system now has over 1,600 non-English speaking students enrolled. 4.) Haitians, who are nearly 20 years old, are being placed in High School Freshman classes with 13-year-old kids. 5.) A man associated with the re-location efforts is renting his 63 homes to 20-25 Haitians (per home), at $250/month, and is giving them local work. 6.) HIV reports are SKYROCKETING 871% over the past 5 years and many nurses in the area are alleging it’s due to the Haitians being treated. 7.) An 11-year-old boy, Aiden Clark, was killed by an illegal Haitan, with no license, who crashed into his school bus. 8.) Springfield residents are reporting missing pets and that Haitans have been caught eating animals in the city.

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  38. Kathaleena, short answer is no, of course not.

    We must have more than one credible source for stories like that. We have editors who will press us for backup sources if we don’t. These stories are vetted, unlike on “social media” with a guy behind a computer.

    Social media posts have few if any guardrails for throwing anything out there they want to believe or want others to believe.

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  39. If there are “many witnesses,” have they reported it and filed reports? Is there a paper trail that verifies it?

    The shame about social media is that while it has some benefit it also serves, too often, to spread tales that are unsubstantiated.

    Readers need to beware of that and exercise caution and skepticism (and perhaps not spread it on if they can’t find sufficient verification).

    If fines have been issued, if there are records of these incidents occurring (that are valid and have names and details of those reporting it; if they have been looked into and verified by any agencies, all the better).

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  40. And I apologize if some of that sounded overly irritable.

    I don’t know how this country moves forward with no general acceptance of sources of reliable information — not sources that are all the same, but sources that take providing true information in a serious way, not just for partisan gain.

    Social media, for all its benefits when used wisely, has gone down the rabbit hole of promoting some reckless posters who call themselves catturd (or whatever else they think is so clever). Maybe I’m missing something, but that’s not where I’ll go for information I trust.

    There are many good information sources — including on social media — still out there, however. But one needs to look for them and be discerning and compare and test against other sources. We need wisdom.

    Do officials lie? Of course they do. They are fallen human beings like all of us. But they also are under a civil authority in their positions, and that, we hope, provides some constraint with oversight.

    It’s a serious challenge going forward in our culture and I can’t see a way out of it right now. I wish I could but we all seem to be speaking different languages.

    Free societies are not easy to sustain, we may be finding out in a whole new way now.

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  42. I am still wondering how the mainline media got away with hiding the truth about Biden. How long ago was that? No one talks about that deception anymore since cats and dogs are more important it seems. And whatever happened with all the missing children who came through the open border? They have been put under the bus. Where are the mainline media reports on that? But cats and dogs? Yes, they take center stage in importance. It’s all the missing stories that mean we don’t get a true picture of what is going on. If ABC people are such good buddies of Kamala, surely they had the scoop on Biden’s decline and should have let the public know, but who were they loyal to? Not the people they are suppose to serve.

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