37 thoughts on “News/Politics 10-20-23

  1. Yay for govt healthcare.

    Oh wait, no. This is just murder.

    This is healthcare like abortion is healthcare, meaning it’s not.

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  2. Twitter X still has work to do rooting out the leftist censors.

    But at least now someone is in a position to rectify it, someone who isn’t a whiny liberal who will do nothing.

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  3. The enemy within….

    The cowards won’t even put their name to it, so strong is their convictions.

    Another enemy….

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  4. Correct.

    https://twitter.com/BecketAdams/status/1714799460109164692?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1714799460109164692%7Ctwgr%5Ed293af862969d3bf9c94569ff410309248cf0976%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fbrettt%2F2023%2F10%2F19%2Fphilip-klein-marvels-at-the-speed-hospital-bombing-went-from-war-crime-to-never-mind-n2388762

    https://twitter.com/BecketAdams/status/1714801513862762675?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1714801513862762675%7Ctwgr%5Ed293af862969d3bf9c94569ff410309248cf0976%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fbrettt%2F2023%2F10%2F19%2Fphilip-klein-marvels-at-the-speed-hospital-bombing-went-from-war-crime-to-never-mind-n2388762

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  5. Free speech ya’ll!

    Wait…. never mind.

    Apple needs that sweet Chinese slave labor to keep profit margins up.

    https://twitchy.com/tertullianus/2023/10/19/stewart-canceled-n2388770

    I disagree with Stewart on most things, but firing him to placate their Chinese overlords is a bad look, and quite un-American.

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  6. The real Aj

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  7. The real Aj

    But no mean tweets….

    That’s what’s important, right NTers?

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  8. The real Aj

    Not safe, not effective.

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  9. The real Aj

    A hard NO!

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  10. The real Aj

    But no mean tweets. That’s something, right?

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  11. ~ Jim Jordan fails to win House speakership in third vote ~

    Is there a Plan C? or D?

    Who can keep up? I forget how many iterations of this we’ve been through now. 🙂

    -dj

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  12. ~ Rep. Jim Jordan fell short again in a third round of voting Friday, leaving Republicans at a fresh impasse.

    In all, 194 Republicans voted for Jordan and 25 against, up from 22 in the second round and 20 in the first.

    Republicans currently have no fallback plan after rejecting on Thursday a proposal to vote on giving more powers to Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry (R., N.C.).

    *** Next, Another House GOP Meeting

    The House has gaveled out after the third failed vote for Rep. Jim Jordan (R., Ohio). Republicans are expected to hold a meeting later this afternoon. ~

    -dj

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  13. Conservatives overwhelmingly want Jim Jordan. The holdouts can’t even explain why they won’t vote for Jordan. Get the RINOs to listen to the people… that’s who they are supposed to represent – not Deep State Globalists.

    At least the RINOs have been fully exposed… it’s definitely time for a change of guard in the House!

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  14. ~ Jim Jordan Ousted as GOP Speaker Nominee

    Jim Jordan is no longer the GOP speaker nominee after losing a secret ballot of House Republicans. The party will begin selecting a new candidate Monday. ~

    -dj

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  15. If it’s possible — and it may not be in this environment — someone who can bring the party together (probably unlikely at this stage) and be somewhat willing and adept at being able to work across the aisle when needed.

    “A house divided against itself cannot stand,” Abraham Lincoln wisely said in 1858; quoting Jesus in Matt. 12:25:

    ~ “And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand.” ~

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  16. Jordan is that man. And as M. Gaetz expressed, they would be willing to sacrifice even “a pound of their flesh” so that the party can come together, but the RINOs still won’t give in. They have their own agenda, whch sure isn’t the American people’s agenda.

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  17. DJ,

    And yet the RINOS keep dividing the party and uniting with the people antithical to their supposed principles who are ruining our country rather than their “brethren”….

    Given your quotes, what’s that say about them?

    They’re the dividers here.

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  18. And now you see why the media would rather focus the attention on the Speaker race.

    So I’d add the 22 are providing cover for Biden’s crimes by not falling in line. It gives the media the SQUIRREL! they need to distract from out corrupt president.

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  19. “If Only Republicans Fought Democrats As Much As They Did Their Own Voters”

    https://thefederalist.com/2023/10/19/if-only-republicans-fought-democrats-as-much-as-they-did-their-own-voters/

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    “Republicans Hate Their Base
    While not perfect, Jordan as House speaker would be a major upgrade for GOP voters. Not only does he sport a more conservative voting record than former Speaker Kevin McCarthy and Majority Leader Steve Scalise, R-La., he’s also one of the founding members of the House Freedom Caucus.

    So why, despite a groundswell of support among conservative voters, have a handful of Republicans decided to tank Jordan’s speakership bid? While anonymously sourced conspiracies are likely to dominate legacy media’s coverage of the issue, the real answer is likely much simpler: Many of these Republicans despise their voters.

    Don’t take my word for it. Bacon admitted as much when complaining to reporters earlier this week about the “pressure campaign back home” for him to back Jordan as speaker. The Nebraska congressman went on to say the reason he opposed Jordan’s initial speakership bid was to stick it to the few House Republicans who ousted McCarthy and prevented Scalise from becoming speaker.

    “You don’t have a process where I play by the rules and some people can’t — and they get what they wanted, and now I’m supposed to play by the rules,” Bacon whined.

    So, to recap: A grown man serving in the U.S. Congress is actively defying the will of his voters to spite some of his colleagues.

    As petty and pathetic as his actions are, Bacon is merely a symptom of the greater cancer that’s infected the GOP establishment for years. On the campaign trail, these Republicans make grandiose pledges to stand up for conservative values and “drain the swamp,” only to discard such promises once they get to Washington.

    It’s not that they forget what they promised. It’s that they never intended to fight for their voters in the first place. Whether on religious freedom, illegal immigration, or federal spending, conservatives can always count on the Republican establishment to sell them out.

    If Republicans like Bacon spent as much time fighting Democrats as they did stabbing their own voters in the back, the battle for America’s soul would look more like a fight between two rivals than the one-sided shellacking Democrats are dolling out on a weekly basis.”

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  20. “The House GOP’s Mercenary Caucus

    A majority doesn’t count for much in a chamber where every man is a king.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-gops-mercenary-caucus-house-republicans-speaker-election-e8fd4af7?mod=opinion_featst_pos1

    “The press is working mightily to give these holdouts cover for their opposition—the better to prolong the GOP disarray. The media suggests their intransigence is somehow more principled than that of the McCarthy rebels. One hilarious excuse is that the “no” votes have been pushed beyond human limit by a “pressure campaign” by Jordan allies. Please. Washington didn’t become “mean” overnight, and the “pressure” of this debate is no more or less than that of any other intraparty fight. If the poor, fragile creatures can’t handle the stress of a mere leadership vote, God help them should ObamaCare repeal come to the floor.

    Another pretext is that some “moderate” Republicans in Biden-leaning districts just can’t risk a vote for—as the New York Times describes him—the “hard right” Mr. Jordan. The Times bestows the same descriptor on pretty much any member to the right of Nancy Pelosi. Many Republicans in competitive districts did vote for Mr. Jordan—on the obvious grounds that continued GOP upheaval is a far greater risk to their re-election.

    As backroom negotiations and public statements prove, what’s really going on is more parochial and self-serving, not unlike the Gaetz rebellion. The Jordan refuseniks include a claque of New Yorkers holding back their votes over demands that hard-working Americans in flyover states once again be forced to subsidize New York’s insane tax rates by reimposing full deductibility of state and local taxes. Rep. Anthony D’Esposito on Twitter: “I want a Speaker who understands Long Island’s unique needs. Restoring the SALT deduction, safeguarding 9/11 victim support funding, and investing in critical infrastructure are our priorities.” By all means, let’s prioritize Long Island.

    The Empire State crew is joined by a group of appropriator cardinals who see in their opposition to the small-government Mr. Jordan an opportunity to keep the spending spigots open. After all, what’s the need for a speaker to deal with war in Israel or $33 trillion in debt by comparison with the freedom to keep spending?

    There are the usual grandstanders, who love the trailing media and who issue regular updates about their latest thoughts about and conversations with “Kevin” and “Jim” and “Steve.” And then there’s the hurt-feelings caucus, grumpy over the treatment handed out to Messrs. McCarthy and Scalise, refusing to vote for Mr. Jordan on the grounds that this will somehow reward Mr. Gaetz. This appears to include Mr. Scalise himself, who, while a member of leadership, has refused to issue a public endorsement of the man his caucus nominated.

    Largely absent are particularized policy or procedural or leadership complaints against Mr. Jordan, at least not of a type specific enough that he might address them or satisfy demands. Also absent from many opponents is any considered alternative. While some members cast protest votes in favor of Messrs. McCarthy or Scalise, many just voted random names. Colorado Rep. Ken Buck, who voted to oust Mr. McCarthy, refused to cast votes for either Mr. Scalise or Mr. Jordan as nominee, and voted against Mr. Jordan on the floor twice, joked that in the most recent round he’d cast his lot for Rep. Tom Emmer because “I don’t like Tom Emmer. I figured this would be the worst job in America.” There’s serious for you.

    The bigger point is that the name on the ballot no longer matters: McCarthy, Scalise, Jordan, Jesus. Members drew a lesson from the McCarthy fight in January and the later Gaetz revolt: We are, any one of us, kings and queens now. While the vast majority of the GOP conference remains focused on what’s best for party and country, a small but significant number of mercenary members intend to glory in their power. Good luck getting through to Washington’s new and ever-shifting royalty.”

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  21. He ain’t wrong.

    “Sen. J.D. Vance: Biden Used Dead Israeli Children To Sell $60 Billion More In Foreign Aid To Ukraine”

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/10/20/sen_jd_vance_biden_used_dead_israeli_children_to_sell_60_billion_more_in_foreign_aid_to_ukraine.html

    “SEN. J.D. VANCE: Right now America doesn’t need client states. We need real allies. If European aren’t going to step up and carry their fair share they are not real allies, they basically are depending on our generosity. And right now we just can’t afford it. We can’t support the weapons necessary to fight a two or God forbid, a three front conflict if China invades Taiwan. We know right new there are artillery shells the Israelis need for their operation in Gaza that we have sent to the Ukrainians. Why have we allowed our industrial capacity to get to the point where we don’t make enough artillery shells to support our friends?

    Given that reality why is Joe Biden going on national television and selling people on a Ukrainian escalation when Joe Biden is talking about the terrible tragedy in Israel. whatever your views are in Ukraine, it is a separate country and a separate problem. I think what the president did is completely disgraceful. If he wants to sell the American people on 60 billion more to Ukraine, he shouldn’t use dead Israeli children to do it. It was disgusting.”

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  22. Reminder — the background.

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    WSJ

    OPINION

    The Gaetz of Republican Hell

    The House GOP still doesn’t have a Speaker after Jim Jordan loses a third vote.

    By
    The Editorial Board

    ~ The eight House Republicans who ousted Speaker Kevin McCarthy two weeks ago are getting exactly what they bargained for, whether they knew it then or not. The instigator, Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz, thinks a better Speaker would be Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan. But on Friday Mr. Jordan lost another floor vote, making it three this week, first with 20 defections, then 22, and finally 25.

    Some of the Jordan dissenters are still angry about the shabby treatment of Mr. McCarthy and the conference’s No. 2 choice, Rep. Steve Scalise. Others seem to believe Mr. Jordan is too much of a firebrand to serve as the party’s frontman. The no votes Friday included half of the Republicans in districts carried by President Biden in 2020. Mr. Jordan lost ground despite some notable attempts at sausage-making.

    He reportedly tried to lure blue-state Republicans with a plan to double the federal deduction for state and local taxes, or SALT. Capping it at $10,000 was a huge victory in President Trump’s 2017 tax reform, so Mr. Jordan’s pledge contradicted the claim that as Speaker he’d be a conservative’s conservative. Also, seven of the McCarthy mutineers said in a letter that in exchange for electing Mr. Jordan, they’d accept “censure, suspension, or removal from the Conference.” Maybe they could have landed Mr. Jordan the job if they had offered seppuku.

    By late Friday afternoon, chaos reigned. About a dozen Republicans had begun making calls to line up their own supporters, or were considering it, in advance of another Speaker candidate forum expected this Monday. Have a real fun weekend, guys. The GOP is right to refuse the idea, dangled by Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries, of a “bipartisan governing coalition.” But Republicans need to come up with a consensus candidate, and fast.

    Perhaps it’s acting Speaker Patrick McHenry, or perhaps someone else. This isn’t a life sentence, after all. But friends in Israel and Ukraine need America’s support, government funding runs out again in a month, and Virginia goes to the polls a week before that. ~
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    -dj

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  23. Cowards hiding behind anonymity.

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  24. Publicly, the party was trying to put an end to the nonsense and Jordan was their formal “nominee.” So they were going to give it one more shot, even when many thought the choice was very ill-advised, clearly. But at some point, the thinking went, let’s just move on and get this done if it’s at all possible.

    It wasn’t (possible).

    So …

    The private vote showed (a) how little support he really had and (b) that it was time to just cut bait with the Jordan effort.

    I had to laugh out loud at the “garbage people” tweet (@6:55 p.m.), I guess it struck me as funny in its angry kid-like immaturity.

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