Once again the feds seek to limit the defendant and destroy his civil rights.
But it’s OK, cuz Orange Man Bad……
If you aren’t speaking out and condemning this, you’re part of the problem.
Just In: Jack Smith has asked the Judge to limit Donald Trump’s access to evidence that will be used against him. He’s using a Truth social post as an excuse to do it.
According to Smith, the post where Trump says “If you come for me, I’ll come for you” is referring to him… pic.twitter.com/r5Orq6RqZ6
NJ – Abbott created a dangerous situation and then refused to remove it when asked by the relevant authority – the federal gov’t. Two people died because of this, hence a charge of manslaughter is possible. I doubt we will see it because as governor he’s treated differently than ordinary people (two tiered justice). Now if I was Mexico I’d make serious inquiries as to where the incident occurred and whose jurisdiction it happened in. As for other incidents, they don’t concern the death of two people by a Texas gov’t policy.
Tyhcicus – interviews of various former Trump staffers have indicated that there was serious discussion as to the criminality of the Trump’s admin actions and that Trump was present for these discussions. Given he was aware that a serious case could be made that his actions and others was illegal, the charges may actually stick. Ignorance of the law of course is no excuse. By setting the standard higher than normal, we are giving Trump a greater benefit of the doubt than normal. Again politicians getting preferential treatment.
It is not a unique career route. Young graduates get hired by the gov’t and once they acquire enough experience, they cash in on a more lucrative private sector job. Nothing conspiratorial here.
The SPR was created when the US was not self-sufficient in oil. Currently its more or less self-sufficient (if the US is a little short, Canada and Mexico have extra). By replenishing the SPR (which isn’t necessary), oil prices will go up and may even bump inflation a bit. If I was Biden I wouldn’t do it either.
As I stated for the last few years, if anyone is surprised that there were undercover FBI agents at a political protest, they haven’t been paying attention for the last century. Still people make their own decisions, and personal responsibility is the cornerstone of the justice system
Trump’s social media post was stupid. Can you imagine anyone else posting “If you come for me, I will come for you” on social media just hours after being released on bail? Bail would quickly be revoked, but because he’s a political figure, he’s being treated differently.
And Travis in Flint actually read the attachment to his tweet, he’d realised it does not say Trump will have his access to evidence limited. Trump and his lawyers will have full access to all evidence and will be allowed to share it with any relevant witnesses and legal experts. The protective only seeks to limit the dissemination of the evidence to those not connected or to social media. The same protective order is already in place in the Mar-A-Lago trial. Given Trump’s lack of discipline when it comes to social media posting, this request is warranted. It seems relatively straight forward – you can’t post evidence on social media prior to the trial. However, Trump believes he’s above normal legal practises.
“And Travis in Flint actually read the attachment to his tweet, he’d realised it does not say Trump will have his access to evidence limited. Trump and his lawyers will have full access to all evidence and will be allowed to share it with any relevant witnesses and legal experts. ”
This is also false. As with many Jan6 defendants, they’ve had 1000’s of hours of video evidence hidden from their view, as well as exculpatory evidence that would favor the defendant. All it takes is a corrupt judge willing to allow your rights to be violated, as is clearly happening again. Their right to a speedy trial being the most obvious. Tucker released video that even defendants lawyers couldn’t see because the DoJ and Jan6 Farcs Committee denied them access. When it was finally released, the R’s in Congress released it. This did nothing for their defense since their trials had ended. They also “mistakenly” deleted thousands of emails after being ordered by a judge not to. In America, this is a violation of your rights.
JUST IN: Leaked footage from an interview with former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund reveals that many federal agents were in the crowd on January 6th.
The footage has been hidden from the public by Fox News.
The January 6th Capitol Police CHIEF told Tucker Carlson that he wasn’t allowed to do his job that day, that both Pelosi + General Milley hid intelligence from him, that they denied his requests for National Guard and he says the January 6th crowd was filled with Federal Agents. pic.twitter.com/qTnYY4vfC0
Amy Berman Jackson also allowed Roger’s forewoman to be an anti-Trump leftist who tweeted before and even *during* the trial her bias against Trump, Stone, and all Republicans https://t.co/mFexF2Lk3N
There's just no way to talk about this behavior without using this tone.
No matter how low is the esteem in which you told corporate media, the way they're openly drooling over Jack Smith is just sleazy and embarrassing. https://t.co/stXvJedg0r
Sean Davis strongly condemns the U.S. government’s indictment and arrest of opposition leader Donald Trump on politically motivated charges. The Biden administration cannot silence the truth. Trump should be released. https://t.co/vIFYsik9Ww
Judge Amy Berman Jackson withheld exculpatory evidence from @RogerJStoneJr's lawyer that would have proven Roger Stone Did Nothing Wrong. Now she’s licking her chops over the potential destruction of @RealDonaldTrump in a DC Kangeroo Court.#BananaRepublichttps://t.co/FmDDzfeifV
The left is calling this statement from Trump an incitement to violence, and- brace yourselves- want him incarcerated for saying words.
Almost every Democrat elected/political official in office today ran on the promise that they would “come after Trump” if put in power. pic.twitter.com/TO9EsLZXed
HRW…so you want Abbott held liable for the deaths of two people trying to enter this country illegally because they got caught up in a buoy placed in the river? Because he is a Governor trying to protect his state and our country??
Biden is the stinkin’ President and he is culpable for the thousands of deaths occurring in the country…not only the deaths of those entering our country illegally but those bringing in drugs killing our citizens, the children being trafficked, murders of our citizens at the hands of Mexican gang members, raptors/pedophiles, murdered crossing our borders illegally. But sure…focus on those two …
Anything to slander those pointing out the child trafficking….
He gave $500 to a GoFundMe, and he rented an apartment to a woman who had “kidnapped” her own kid in violation of a shared custody agreement, so he was charged as an “accessory.” Like, I’m sure there are very good critiques of the film’s treatment of trafficking; this ain’t it. https://t.co/iE0P94Nh70
That this is the line of attack they pursue and that they frame it so dishonestly makes me wonder if there are, in fact, good critiques of the film’s treatment of trafficking. I’m not interested in the film myself, but the desire to take it down is revealing.
It's not even his custody battle. He's their landlord. In it's surface, this makes no sense. What does make sense is a leftist commie prosecutor overflowing with orgasmic joy at the prospect of imprisoning a landlord. pic.twitter.com/Uaz5BpNdqZ
3 U.S. Code § 1: "The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in Nov…" On Election Day, 2020 @RealDonaldTrump had votes to win but vote totals changed by unprecedented counting AFTER Election Day.
The list of people who rushed to lie about Sound of Freedom is really just a list of people who were deeply bothered than an anti-pedophile film was released pic.twitter.com/mct0zUTNjY
So the biggest law firms in the world, whose lawyers regularly appear before the Supreme Court, have a liberal justice come speak to their conference?
But WaPo attacks a conservative justice for going on trips with his best friend of 25+ years, with no business before the court? pic.twitter.com/QDOTgC2yk8
The pain is the point. This is intentionally bankrupting people for supporting the wrong politician. It’s un-American BS.
“From a fmr Trump admin staffer:
Over the last few weeks the Jack Smith investigation has been drastically widened.
Now dragging in mid-level and junior campaign and White House staffers.
Even thought the indictment has been handed down, some are being forced to testify in the upcoming weeks.
Why are they doing this? Because it hurts the staffers financially. The average DC attorney to handle pre-indictment grand jury testimony costs between $20-50k. That’s more than half of what most the campaign staff would have made during their entire time on campaign
The goal here is clear, chilling of the right to free speech, reducing the right of free assembly, and to scare away GOP staff from future campaigns and administrations. This is the long battle and they’re fighting to win”
From a fmr Trump admin staffer:
Over the last few weeks the Jack Smith investigation has been drastically widened.
Now dragging in mid-level and junior campaign and White House staffers.
Even thought the indictment has been handed down, some are being forced to testify in…
In the Fabian Marta case, if he knew that the child had been kidnapped (because that’s what taking or keeping a child without having legal custody is), then he would be an accessory. But if he merely rented the apartment to the people and didn’t know the truth about the child, then that would not be a crime, I wouldn’t think.
He is one of 6600+ crowd investors. Seriously, who sorted through 6600 names of random people who put a few hundred dollars into P&A funding and cross checked it with local judicial databases? That’s a lot of work for a nothingburger. https://t.co/8pKB908eft
“The latest federal indictment of former President Donald Trump was handed down this week with all of the authority of papal infallibility. Pundits lined up to proclaim that case as the greatest prosecution in history.
Former Obama administration acting Solicitor General Neil Katyal even declared that the indictment touched off “the biggest legal case in our lifetimes, perhaps almost ever. It’s up there with cases like Dred Scott, it is up there with Brown v. Board of Education.” What was missing was any serious consideration of the implications of allowing the government to criminalize false statements in a campaign.
Trump was not charged with conspiracy to incite violence or insurrection. Rather, he was charged because he “spread lies that there had been outcome-determinative fraud in the election and that he had actually won.”
In order to secure convictions for this, Special Counsel Jack Smith would need to bulldoze through not just the First Amendment but also existing case law holding that even false statements are protected.
The government acknowledges that the Constitution protects false statements made in campaigns, but it insists that Trump must have known that his statements were false and therefore was engaged in fraudulent statements to obstruct or challenge electoral results.
As a threshold matter, one problem is immediately evident. If Trump actually did (or does) believe that he did not lose the election, the indictment collapses. And so in an effort to demonstrate his knowledge, the indictment details how many people told Trump that he was wrong about the election and wrong about the law. I was one of those voices. Trump did not listen to me, most legal analysts or even his White House counsel. Instead, he listened to a small group of lawyers who assured him that a challenge might succeed and that there was evidence of massive election fraud.
But Trump is allowed to seek out enablers who tell him what he wants to hear. All presidents do this. (Joe Biden, for example, ignored virtually unanimous legal opinion and relied upon a single law professor’s say-so to justify an obviously unconstitutional executive action that later had to be reversed.)
This case, which criminally targets the sitting president’s leading opponent, is much more dangerous because it sets up the federal government as the arbiter of truth.
This indictment essentially charges Trump with not accepting the “truth.” There is no limiting principle to this indictment. The government would choose between which politicians are lying and which are lying without cause.
Under our current understanding of free speech, Democrats ranging from Hillary Clinton to Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) were engaged in protected speech when they called Trump illegitimate and challenged the certification of his win, even though they knew that their challenges were completely meritless. Yet this indictment suggests that Trump engaged (and indeed still engages) in criminal conduct by insisting that the 2020 election was stolen. Presumably, it also follows that tens of millions of Americans holding that same view are also involved in spreading the same false claims underlying the indictment.”
If Abbott is liable for those two sad deaths, is he also liable for the known 853 known deaths last year of people attempting to come illegally into the country across the Texas border? Is every governor liable for every death in his state? What an odd thought.
This statement by Judge Chutkan in her landmark ruling denying Trump exec privilege protections from House Democrats J6 committee alone should be disqualifying.
There is no way she can objectively oversee Jack Smith's J6 case against Trump. pic.twitter.com/VDIbIQnyJ5
The Sikh convenience store clerk who beat the piss out of a shoplifter with a stick in is under investigation from Stockton, California police for assault.
here is the full video of his threat to shoot and kill the clerks, which never gets mentioned in these reports. he was an armed robber and needed to be put down https://t.co/7YlZ7QvLtb
Hysteria about policing as a result of George Floyd’s death has lead to a 30% increase in murders, mostly of black victims. But you don’t care about all the additional dead black people, just how you can virtue signal about someone clicking an icon on a stupid meme.
— Rev. Dr. Ashanti Van Buren+ (@AshantiVanBuren) August 6, 2023
This is a well-written article, Daniel. It does a great job highlighting how wrongthink is quickly punished in totalitarian environments.
I have a different name, but I’ll allow thugs. It’s much shorter than traitorous deep state vermin anyway.
Molly Gaston is the DOJ lawyer who went crying to Judge Chutkan last night, claiming Trump's Truth Social post was a lowkey threat and demanding the judge withhold discovery from Trump until she signs a protective order in the case.
Gaston and Cooney are also the DOJ tag team on the contempt of Congress case against Steve Bannon. They asked for 6 months in jail after Bannon convicted by DC jury on 2 counts and pay a $200,000 fine: pic.twitter.com/2mNT7HlN99
If you allow immigration, legal and illegal, and don’t expect the incomes to adopt American culture, you must expect them to bring their own culture. Caning is a thing. And with the thug’s continuing resistance, it makes perfect sense they would continue the caning.
Wandering Views 
Of course. Another fed op.
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3rd world BS.
AKA: the Biden playbook.
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Once again the feds seek to limit the defendant and destroy his civil rights.
But it’s OK, cuz Orange Man Bad……
If you aren’t speaking out and condemning this, you’re part of the problem.
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Tone deaf clowns…..
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Suckers.
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They don’t care what oil costs.
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Really?
It’s the first I’ve heard of it….
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NJ – Abbott created a dangerous situation and then refused to remove it when asked by the relevant authority – the federal gov’t. Two people died because of this, hence a charge of manslaughter is possible. I doubt we will see it because as governor he’s treated differently than ordinary people (two tiered justice). Now if I was Mexico I’d make serious inquiries as to where the incident occurred and whose jurisdiction it happened in. As for other incidents, they don’t concern the death of two people by a Texas gov’t policy.
Tyhcicus – interviews of various former Trump staffers have indicated that there was serious discussion as to the criminality of the Trump’s admin actions and that Trump was present for these discussions. Given he was aware that a serious case could be made that his actions and others was illegal, the charges may actually stick. Ignorance of the law of course is no excuse. By setting the standard higher than normal, we are giving Trump a greater benefit of the doubt than normal. Again politicians getting preferential treatment.
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It is not a unique career route. Young graduates get hired by the gov’t and once they acquire enough experience, they cash in on a more lucrative private sector job. Nothing conspiratorial here.
The SPR was created when the US was not self-sufficient in oil. Currently its more or less self-sufficient (if the US is a little short, Canada and Mexico have extra). By replenishing the SPR (which isn’t necessary), oil prices will go up and may even bump inflation a bit. If I was Biden I wouldn’t do it either.
As I stated for the last few years, if anyone is surprised that there were undercover FBI agents at a political protest, they haven’t been paying attention for the last century. Still people make their own decisions, and personal responsibility is the cornerstone of the justice system
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Trump’s social media post was stupid. Can you imagine anyone else posting “If you come for me, I will come for you” on social media just hours after being released on bail? Bail would quickly be revoked, but because he’s a political figure, he’s being treated differently.
And Travis in Flint actually read the attachment to his tweet, he’d realised it does not say Trump will have his access to evidence limited. Trump and his lawyers will have full access to all evidence and will be allowed to share it with any relevant witnesses and legal experts. The protective only seeks to limit the dissemination of the evidence to those not connected or to social media. The same protective order is already in place in the Mar-A-Lago trial. Given Trump’s lack of discipline when it comes to social media posting, this request is warranted. It seems relatively straight forward – you can’t post evidence on social media prior to the trial. However, Trump believes he’s above normal legal practises.
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No, two people died because they illegal tried to invade the US despite seeing the barriers placed in their way.
They did this to themselves. Stop twisting the obvious.
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Trump’s a US citizen with every right to say whatever the heck he wants.
His rights are clearly being violated by the feds and DC’s joke of a “justice” system, as were many Jan 6 political prisoners.
Perhaps you should refresh yourself on the US Bill of Rights, something each and every US citizen, including Bad Orange Man have.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/billofrights
See specifically the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th and 8th, all of which the feds have violated. for Trump, and numerous Jan6the political prisoners.
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“And Travis in Flint actually read the attachment to his tweet, he’d realised it does not say Trump will have his access to evidence limited. Trump and his lawyers will have full access to all evidence and will be allowed to share it with any relevant witnesses and legal experts. ”
This is also false. As with many Jan6 defendants, they’ve had 1000’s of hours of video evidence hidden from their view, as well as exculpatory evidence that would favor the defendant. All it takes is a corrupt judge willing to allow your rights to be violated, as is clearly happening again. Their right to a speedy trial being the most obvious. Tucker released video that even defendants lawyers couldn’t see because the DoJ and Jan6 Farcs Committee denied them access. When it was finally released, the R’s in Congress released it. This did nothing for their defense since their trials had ended. They also “mistakenly” deleted thousands of emails after being ordered by a judge not to. In America, this is a violation of your rights.
See….
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/14/feds-admit-breaking-law-with-delay-in-case-against-alleged-jan-6-rioter-00017003
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/courts/judge-denies-jan-6-defendant-access-to-capitol-security-tapes
https://www.westernjournal.com/report-fbi-caught-doctoring-destroying-388-items-evidence-jan-6-proud-boys-case/
https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/an-egregious-denial-of-due-process-for-jan-6-protesters/
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/10/the_political_prisoners_of_january_6.html
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Yeah….
Good times….
Where’s the media outcry?
(crickets)
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More rights violations, this time by police, yet not a peep from the Defund Police clowns….
Also evidence hidden from defendants…..
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https://twitter.com/TuckerJack22/status/1687889277697298432
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They want to limit what Trump can say and leak, so they can control the narrative, and their own leaks.
https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1687851174857240576
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Corrupt cops.
And judges hiding evidence…..
But oh so scary, Trump might talk about it…..
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Indeed, but lapdoggin’ is what they do best.
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Yep.
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But hey suckers, look at the bright side.
No mean tweets!
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Corrupt.
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It’s weird, but I’m detecting a double standard….
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HRW…so you want Abbott held liable for the deaths of two people trying to enter this country illegally because they got caught up in a buoy placed in the river? Because he is a Governor trying to protect his state and our country??
Biden is the stinkin’ President and he is culpable for the thousands of deaths occurring in the country…not only the deaths of those entering our country illegally but those bringing in drugs killing our citizens, the children being trafficked, murders of our citizens at the hands of Mexican gang members, raptors/pedophiles, murdered crossing our borders illegally. But sure…focus on those two …
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https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1687477482297913344
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Anything to slander those pointing out the child trafficking….
Indeed.
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Odd, no….?
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But muh narrative….
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The pain is the point. This is intentionally bankrupting people for supporting the wrong politician. It’s un-American BS.
“From a fmr Trump admin staffer:
Over the last few weeks the Jack Smith investigation has been drastically widened.
Now dragging in mid-level and junior campaign and White House staffers.
Even thought the indictment has been handed down, some are being forced to testify in the upcoming weeks.
Why are they doing this? Because it hurts the staffers financially. The average DC attorney to handle pre-indictment grand jury testimony costs between $20-50k. That’s more than half of what most the campaign staff would have made during their entire time on campaign
The goal here is clear, chilling of the right to free speech, reducing the right of free assembly, and to scare away GOP staff from future campaigns and administrations. This is the long battle and they’re fighting to win”
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In the Fabian Marta case, if he knew that the child had been kidnapped (because that’s what taking or keeping a child without having legal custody is), then he would be an accessory. But if he merely rented the apartment to the people and didn’t know the truth about the child, then that would not be a crime, I wouldn’t think.
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He gave $501 to a crowd sourcing attempt to fundraise for the movie’s making.
“Funder” of the movie is really stretching it by the media, and they act as if he played a prominent role.
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HRW,
Even Bad Orange Man has rights.
“Even lies are protected speech: New Trump indictment bulldozes the First Amendment”
https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/4137650-even-lies-are-protected-speech-new-trump-indictment-bulldozes-the-first-amendment/
“The latest federal indictment of former President Donald Trump was handed down this week with all of the authority of papal infallibility. Pundits lined up to proclaim that case as the greatest prosecution in history.
Former Obama administration acting Solicitor General Neil Katyal even declared that the indictment touched off “the biggest legal case in our lifetimes, perhaps almost ever. It’s up there with cases like Dred Scott, it is up there with Brown v. Board of Education.” What was missing was any serious consideration of the implications of allowing the government to criminalize false statements in a campaign.
Trump was not charged with conspiracy to incite violence or insurrection. Rather, he was charged because he “spread lies that there had been outcome-determinative fraud in the election and that he had actually won.”
In order to secure convictions for this, Special Counsel Jack Smith would need to bulldoze through not just the First Amendment but also existing case law holding that even false statements are protected.
The government acknowledges that the Constitution protects false statements made in campaigns, but it insists that Trump must have known that his statements were false and therefore was engaged in fraudulent statements to obstruct or challenge electoral results.
As a threshold matter, one problem is immediately evident. If Trump actually did (or does) believe that he did not lose the election, the indictment collapses. And so in an effort to demonstrate his knowledge, the indictment details how many people told Trump that he was wrong about the election and wrong about the law. I was one of those voices. Trump did not listen to me, most legal analysts or even his White House counsel. Instead, he listened to a small group of lawyers who assured him that a challenge might succeed and that there was evidence of massive election fraud.
But Trump is allowed to seek out enablers who tell him what he wants to hear. All presidents do this. (Joe Biden, for example, ignored virtually unanimous legal opinion and relied upon a single law professor’s say-so to justify an obviously unconstitutional executive action that later had to be reversed.)
This case, which criminally targets the sitting president’s leading opponent, is much more dangerous because it sets up the federal government as the arbiter of truth.
This indictment essentially charges Trump with not accepting the “truth.” There is no limiting principle to this indictment. The government would choose between which politicians are lying and which are lying without cause.
Under our current understanding of free speech, Democrats ranging from Hillary Clinton to Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) were engaged in protected speech when they called Trump illegitimate and challenged the certification of his win, even though they knew that their challenges were completely meritless. Yet this indictment suggests that Trump engaged (and indeed still engages) in criminal conduct by insisting that the 2020 election was stolen. Presumably, it also follows that tens of millions of Americans holding that same view are also involved in spreading the same false claims underlying the indictment.”
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If Abbott is liable for those two sad deaths, is he also liable for the known 853 known deaths last year of people attempting to come illegally into the country across the Texas border? Is every governor liable for every death in his state? What an odd thought.
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Ya’ think?
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It’s a Democrat’s paradise.
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Stupid meme, but indefinite suspension?
C’mon.
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I have a different name, but I’ll allow thugs. It’s much shorter than traitorous deep state vermin anyway.
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If you allow immigration, legal and illegal, and don’t expect the incomes to adopt American culture, you must expect them to bring their own culture. Caning is a thing. And with the thug’s continuing resistance, it makes perfect sense they would continue the caning.
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Remember this the next time some revisionist historian claims otherwise.
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I’m sure she’ll be fair and impartial this time…..
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Remember 2019, when Trump was president and trying to expose Biden’s corruption?
Yeah….
Good times…..
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