50 thoughts on “Our Daily Thread 11-8-17”

  1. You surely are a bunch of chatty people.
    I was reading yesterday’s comments and when I came back up, the picture had changed
    It must be a new day for the Wanderers.
    So? Good morning everyone.

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  2. I am up and making the coffee. No dogs to wait upon. We do have a visitor cat. he (I think) and Mr. P meowed at each other for several minutes last night. He would walk by the porch and look over, glancing at us as he did. He would walk out to the steps leading down to the lake and look back at us, then walk by again meowing. Eventually he deigned to grace us with his presence for a scratch behind the ears.
    This morning we will start our training and I will get to meet the people I work with. I have only met one of them in person. The house where everyone else is staying is 3 miles away but will take 15 minutes to get there. Driving these roads at night or after a glass of wine will NOT be happening. Lots of switch back and drop offs. The good news is a tree would catch you before you hit bottom but who wants to test that out.
    Chas, it looks like Friday will have to be your day.

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  4. Last night’s discussion on slaughtering and butchering animals reminded me of the first month I lived in Val Marie (heart of ranching country). I was sitting in my living room and a tractor drove by with a skinned out beef hanging from the bucket. A little shocking for this former city girl, but oh, so typical for the village.

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  6. Good morning. My devices need to power up. Too bad I can’t share coffee with them. I hope to get back here later. I may be carrying my friend to the doctor today. I have one shirt to return that was too small for Art. Two out of three is better than none, Hun!

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  7. Kim, yeah, I heard that in a book an author once read aloud (portions) at a writing conference I attended. Sorry, thanking the creature rather than its Creator just seems weird.

    Roscuro, one of our church’s elders sometimes teaches Sunday school, and he will carefully explain that Greek has past perfect and what that means, and I think “Does he not realize English has past perfect too?”

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  8. Before he married Second Sibling, Second Sibling-in-law rented from a family, the father of whom specialized in butchering, so there was always a carcass or two hanging in the garage. Second-in-law hopes one day to be able to have a few animals of his own to slaughter and butcher – he’s one who likes to do everything for himself. We never did anything beyond slaughtering and plucking chickens (or rather, our parents did), as we weren’t interested in eating goat, since we bred our goats for the milk, not the kids – though we children certainly had fun playing with the kids. The male kids were taken to the nearest sale barn, where we knew they would probably be bought for meat.

    We never ate organ meat, though my mother said her British origin parents and grandparents did, including tongue, brain and tripe, all of which she found disgusting. My mother was concerned about the antibiotics, as the levels are higher in liver and kidney where antibiotics are processed. Besides, my father didn’t care for liver. My mother never tires of telling how when they were first married, my father would rave every night about my mother’s cooking. One day, she decided to make what had always been a treat in her family, liver and onions. My father ate it all, but remained silent. My mother asked, “Didn’t you like it?” He replied, “Well, liver has never been my favorite food.” Anyone who knows my father would recognize that phrase means he really does not like something, he’s just too polite to say so.

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  10. When young, I went hunting with my father and brother and uncles or cousins depending which set of relatives we were visiting. They mostly hunted for quail and dove. Dogs were sometimes with us to retrieve. What was shot was taken home to the ladies to cook like fried chicken. It was good. God was given thanks for His provision. That feels right to me and fits with God’s word. Had I been brought up Muslim or in another religion then I would have no clue about that. But knowing I am to worship and praise the Creator rather than the created makes an eternal difference. We do need to share the precious knowledge we have been given carefully in a manner of love for other humans, but especially in a way that does not allow our God to feel slighted by our actions. He does not want to be neglected for the sake of other gods and fear of losing favor with people. It is a thing to work out with fear and trembling.

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  12. Janice, as Naaman trusted when he spoke to Elisha about going with his master to the house of Rimmon, God sees our hearts and knows our motivations for all that we do, and we have the Holy Spirit to guide us in what we do and make intercession for us. Yes, God is a jealous God, but unlike a jealous husband, He knows perfectly well all that we do and why we do it, and doesn’t judge us just by the outward appearance.

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  15. Nice shot, I find my attention automatically going to the house colors in the background of whatever photos I see these days, however.

    Can’t say I feel much better this morning, I just hit bottom last night, but I did get a large bookcase cleared off and the books boxed in the garage — it was one of the larger things blocking one of the windows. I’ll try to clear the rest tonight, the window restorers arrive at 7:30 tomorrow morning.

    (And cleaning off the bookcase I did run across a small booklet I’ve held out to read: “Stress: Peace Amid Pressure” by David Powlison.)

    I have 3 stories I need to finish before the end of this week, including a feature for Veterans Day which has to get done by the end of the day tomorrow (and I haven’t even done the interview). I have next week off and will likely spend some time with the covers pulled over my head but I also need to start dealing with SS and getting transitioned onto Medicare (though my boss is now on it and says it’s still expensive, he literally doesn’t go to the doctor because of the expense now). I just feel spent, physically and mentally and emotionally right now. Not to mention financially. Window job will be another few thousand dollars.

    Carol wants me to take her to the tree lighting Sunday evening at The Grove (next to the Farmer’s Market, one of our favorite haunts when I was growing up as we lived near there when I was little — my mom loved going there). We’ll see. It might not be a bad thing for me to do considering I don’t have to go to work Monday. Still, I keep thinking of all that’s involved in picking her up, parking, dealing with crowds with her walker, etc. And then I just feel tired thinking about it. 😦 But maybe my mood and energy will improve once I finally leave work Friday and knowing the foundation & windows are, at long last, done and paid for.

    I left the check for the foundation guys, it’s ended up costing around $7,000 altogether, labor and materials, & $500 for Real Estate Guy who was really so helpful in planning, setting it up & supervising it all. But that’s a decent savings from the $11,000 the one seismic foundation company bid (which was the lowest bid, although they threw in an “advised but optional” extra $4,000 in work to do a more thorough job; the other bids ranged from $18,000-$28,000, simply not do-able).

    Never buy a house alone.

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  16. 😦 I just herd Nat King Cole sing “White Christmas” in the grocery store.
    I told the check-out lady that it’s too early for White Christmas. Besides, it ain’t Christmas ’till Bing sings. She knew what I was talking about.

    Kim. What is your schedule Friday.? On Wed & Fri, I take Elvera to the Adult Center from 10-2. (She’s there now).
    It isn’t important that she be there, but I should tell the people if she isn’t coming.
    Otherwise, we are flexible. This is too. I just need to know.

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  17. I think all the Christmas music stations are up and running. I haven’t been in a store in a while now, other than for groceries, but I suspect many of them are decked out for Santa by now.

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  18. That is too funny what Chas said in 10:49. Not funny funny but to me. I just finished sending an email to nineteen year old daughter. She has had a lot going on. The Navy keeps pulling her around. You are going to boot camp in summer of 2017. (She gives notice to landlord) Navy: oops, that is summer of 2018. (She finds a place to live) Navy:make that December, no November, no December…She moves into aunt’s house, gives away her dog, quits her job, her brother kills himself, her wedding is canceled, etc We understand she has a lot going on but so do other folk.

    But she still does not understand about letting people know her plans. Does not tell aunt when she is leaving or when she gets back. So I finally sent her an email, explaining again, that adults understand that that is part of getting along in civilization. Not something teen agers understand, but adults get it. Communication. People want to know who is creeping around their house and want to know if they should be concerned for you. We make appointments and call to cancel if needed.

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  19. The word helper (ezer) is one that God applies to himself in the Old Testament, so it is a good one – after all, the woman is the helper (ezer) of the man. Our modern concept of the work of a ‘helper’ (such as a Sunday School or daycare helper), however, doesn’t begin to convey what the Holy Spirit is. Jesus called the Holy Spirit the Comforter who would guide us into all truth, Paul said the Spirit is our seal of salvation, and both Paul and Peter said that those who were dead in Christ were raised to life by the Spirit. The Spirit bears witness that we are the children of God, He dwells in us, we are commanded to be filled with Him, and when we walk in the Spirit, we not only will not live in the flesh, but we will also produce good fruit. Just as the Father created, the Word spoke, and the Spirit brooded the heavens, the earth, and all that is in them into being, so the Trinity works together, inseparable, in the work of salvation and sanctification of the believer. So, when we say that the Holy Spirit guides us, as we listen to Him through prayer and meditating on God’s Word, it means that God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are with us in all that we undertake (John 14:16-20).

    Certainly, we can do wrong, but we will not be allowed to continue in sin for long, for whom the Lord loves, he disciplines (Hebrews 12:5-7). Our relationship with God is not as the Israelites’ was, for they did not all have faith (Hebrews 3:17-19), and so they had to be reminded again and again that God was a jealous God. Christians call God by a title that the Israelites did not, that of Father. We do this because our Lord called God Father, much to the indignation of the Pharisees, who considered the title blasphemous. Jesus Christ, our Lord, is our advocate with the Father, and we call on the Father through the Spirit (I John 2:1; Galatians 4:6). Our relationship with God is different than that of Israel, for we have an entry in the Holy of Holies where they had to send a high priest once a year with the blood of a sacrifice (Hebrews 10:19-22). It isn’t that God has ceased being jealous, but that we now are now kept by the power of Christ through the Spirit, and when we do sin, we are not only continually cleansed from that sin by the blood of Christ, but turned in the right direction by the work of the Spirit. So, while we do fear God, we also rest, in a way Israel could not, by the Spirit in the finished work of Christ (Hebrews 2:3-10).

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  20. DJ, I’m glad the repairs are affordable, if only just. They needed to be done, and I’m sure you will feel all the better for having had them once the chaos is over. As for going to the tree lighting, my parents, who are always going about doing things for others and never go on a ‘vacation’ have an old saying, “A change is as good as a rest.” Just going and doing something different can help reset, even if the something different isn’t in itself restful.

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  21. rkessler, yes, but even with all of the equipment to help, there is still the hands on work to deal with. Like canning and gardening. Even with all of the helps, there is a lot of work. Which is actually good for us if we can motivate ourselves to do it.

    M actually was thanking God for the provision, not the animal. But, in Corinthians, we are told those who are praying to false gods are really praying to demons. Then we have to ask if Jews are praying to a false god. It gets ugly really fast. But I have noticed His thoughts are not our thoughts. His view of love is not the same as ours. We are tainted with our life experiences and all coming from different places to end up like Him. Amazing. Which is why we should not complain about one another, His servants.

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  23. Mumsee, I am very uncomfortable when I hear a Christian say of unbelieving Jews that they pray to the same God as us, because the glib statement seems to denigrate the position of Christ, who is God the Son and whose importance is paramount, since all of Scripture is centred around the revelation of Him. I do note, however, Paul continued a certain amount of Jewish religious observance after his conversion, since he went to the temple to fulfill his vow towards the end of Acts. I would say of Muslims, what Christ said to the Samaritan woman, when she asked about the right place to worship God, “You do not know what you worship.” I do not think Muslims are worshipping demonic forces, not in the same way one could say of pagans who worship a panoply of gods, and demigods, like the ancient Greeks, Romans, and Hindus, and who are certainly tapping into the fallen angelic world in a dangerous way. Muslims, especially in their traditional Sufist devotions, often do pray to ‘saints’ and wear charms made by marabouts who have power with spirits, but they do not think of those saints and spirits as being the same as God – in that way, they are more like the Catholic peasant of the Middle Ages, who listened to the priest say Mass, prayed to Mary and all the saints, and sought out the wise woman for charms against warts and other ills. Whatever Protestants think of Catholics, they do not accuse Catholics who pray to God of worshipping a demonic being other than the Creator. Rather they think the Catholics are blocking the way to God by demanding works be added to faith. That view is exactly what I tend to think of the Muslims, only the Muslim way to God is all works.

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  24. The question of the Jewish God and the Muslim god is one that has puzzled me often. Jews do have our Scriptures and do seem to attempt to worship the God of Abraham, same as we do.

    The difference, I think (and I’m basically thinking aloud) is that no one can come to God without a mediator. God has sent His Great High Priest and no other human is needed–priests only ever pointed to Jesus in the first place, being unable to atone for sins themselves. But the Jewish people are left without a priesthood and they largely reject the One who would be their Priest . . . so they stand before God naked and in their sins, with no advantage over Gentiles who are without Christ. In other words, they attempt to worship the true God (without understanding, because they reject His gift, His revelation of Himself in Christ) but do so incorrectly. Whether one worships a false god who does not exist, demons who do exist but are evil, or the true God without a mediator, a person is damned and still in his sins.

    Whatever the details of how God “counts” it, I think we can say that the Jew without Christ has no spiritual advantage over the pagan, the Muslim, or anyone else without Christ. It bothers me when I hear “the Judeo-Christian” this and that for just that reason; it seems to suggest Judiasm is Christianity lite.

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  26. It could be observed, however, that Catholics do not deny the Trinity, and that is an important distinction. Jews do deny the Trinity, and yet I grew up hearing the respected Christians around me say that Jews worshipped the same God. Certainly, Jews and Muslims, or Catholics and Muslims are not perfect parallels. Islam is distinct. Its insistence on the oneness of the Creator is like the Jews, but it views Jesus as a prophet of God (which doesn’t add any merit, because either one accepts Jesus Christ as the Son of God or one is rejecting him), while Judaism excoriates Christ as a complete imposter. I often think of Judaism and Islam in the light of the end of Revelation, where Christ declares that those who take away from His words will have their name taken away from the book of life, while those who add to His words will experience the plagues of Revelation. Judaism takes away the New Testament. Islam adds the Quran*. We need to be careful not to give false reassurance to our Jewish and Muslim friends about worshipping the same God. At the same time, as I said about my experience in West Africa, allowing either of Muslim or Jew to pray on one’s land is neither practicing idolatry nor giving false reassurance.

    By the way, though Mumsee’s acquaintance seems to have needed to orient himself towards Mecca, in my experience, only the five prayer times a day, the ones the mosque broadcast a call for, require the person to be oriented East. Those are also the prayers which they must first wash themselves for. Muslims also pray personal prayers and tell their beads [They tell the 99 names of Allah, most of which seem to be naming characteristics that Christians would say were attributes of the living God, such as the Merciful, the All-Powerful, etc.], and it doesn’t seem to matter where they point themselves for those prayers or when they do them – I would see people walking around the village telling their beads (they would only grunt greetings, since if they break the telling by other speech they have to start over again), while personal prayers were signaled by praying with eyes open and palms open and facing upward.

    *Jews and Christians are both considered people of the book by Islam.

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  27. On the praying position (See how many rabbit trails a discussion can lead to?), the Christians who were converts from Islam used the same position for praying – eyes open, palms upward. We didn’t think it was wrong, since, after all, in Scripture it talks about people praying with eyes open (“Jesus lifted up his eye to heaven”) and with hands spread (i.e. opened and palms upward) toward heaven. To them, that signaled prayer. It is quite probable, indeed, that the Muslim custom was derived from older Christian or Jewish practices from the Middle East, and who can say where the Western/European custom of folding hands, bowing head, and kneeling came from. Reverential prayer positions are somewhat universal in nature and will be found throughout both monotheistic and pagan practices. For example, the palms together, head bowed, eyes closed position is used among Hindus before their image.

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  28. Romans Chapter 11

    11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but [rather] through their fall salvation [is come] unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

    12 Now if the fall of them [be] the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

    13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

    14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation [them which are] my flesh, and might save some of them.

    15 For if the casting away of them [be] the reconciling of the world, what [shall] the receiving [of them be], but life from the dead?

    16 For if the firstfruit [be] holy, the lump [is] also [holy]: and if the root [be] holy, so [are] the branches.

    17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

    18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

    19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

    20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

    21 For if God spared not the natural branches, [take heed] lest he also spare not thee.

    22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in [his] goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

    23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

    24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural [branches], be graffed into their own olive tree?

    There is no New Testament without the Old Testament.

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  29. I wanted to say about yesterdays conversation, that we don’t eat all of that meat ourselves. We butchered 1 steer and hog for our daughter with the 5 children. We also traded a hog for getting our milk cows bred. We share with all of the children, and with other family members. Everyone that comes to visit leaves with a package of meat.

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  31. M also drew a line in the snow and mentioned that there is a very fine line between Muslims and Catholics. I found that interesting. They do use a lot of the same book, it appears they are attempting, from a human standpoint, to worship a piece of the same God we worship. But because it is not God in full, we say it is not God at all. But a new believer, even an old believer, does not know God in full. But they do not get there through the Gate so they do not get there at all.

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  32. RKessler, as the Romans 11 passage says, the Jews were broken off because of unbelief in Jesus Christ, whom they rejected because of his claim of being the Son of God, and they will only be grafted in again if they believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Jesus said to the Pharisees and taught his disciples on the road to Emmaus that the Old Testament is there to testify to Christ (John 5:39, Luke 24).

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  33. I’m already getting responses for my paint consultation. Hmmm.

    He says I need to remove the screen door as it hides my historic front door (which is true, but screen doors are so handy — and also to remove my hanging wind chimes as they look like “clutter.” well!

    Trying not to cry.

    it also looks like he thinks my house should be, yellow-y with white & black trim. But he also gave me color charts to peruse

    Ugh. My birthday present. Ok then … Not sure how I feel about this now.

    Some week I’m having.

    I asked my friend to pray for my ongoing sense of weakness in all of this, I seem to be going through a tough stretch these past few days, but it’s been building I think. Weakness is good, she has reminded me, as it puts us back into a needed awareness of our complete dependence upon God. And I know this, but good to be reminded.

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  34. DJ, if you like the wind chimes and the screen door, keep them. Tell the man to go take a hike. Yellow-y with black and white trim could look quite nice I think, but it is what you want that ultimately counts.

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  35. I like my wind chimes. Clutter they may be but they add peace and joy to my life. Husband bought me some deep ones that sound like church bells, always pointing me to God when I hear them.

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  36. Mumsee said”
    M also drew a line in the snow and mentioned that there is a very fine line between Muslims and Catholics.

    This is true. But it’s a dividing line.
    Muslims believe everything we do except:
    1. Jesus was the Son of God. “Allah doesn’t have a son.”
    2. Jesus didn’t die on the cross. Hence, no resurrection.
    Various attempts to explain this include:
    a. Jesus didn’t die, he swooned and the disciples took him.
    b. Some say Simon, who carried the cross, of even Judas, was substituted.

    In any case, Muslims reject the essence of the Gospel.

    When we debate Jews vs. Muslims, we are debating between two lost groups.
    However, the Bible says, in several places that the Jews will, a people turn to Christ.
    God made Abraham a promise that has yet to be fulfilled.

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  37. The colors sound cheerful to me since they made me think a bit of a paler version of sunflowers. Is there a tree on which the chimes could be hung nearby? Maybe they are the larger style and that would not work.

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  38. 4:30 p.m. and getting dark already since it is a cloudy day. Dreary, but might be a good reason to put up Christmas lights early. Actually, I have been wondering when all the Halloween yard decor in the neighborhood will be taken down.

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  39. Thank you for the wind chime love. I think a tree is a good idea, Janice. Or maybe there’s another more inconspicuous spot from which they can hang and not show from the front so much?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=cantaloupe+color&rlz=1C1LENP_enUS686US686&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjU-vGQirDXAhVN6WMKHY9yCjgQsAQIKA&biw=1366&bih=588

    My friend declared the color he used to be cantaloupe

    I’ll have to take a closer look when I have more time.

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  40. And she also thought the trim was a very deep, dark green, not black.

    There’s a lot of information about colors he also provided that I need to read through. And color charts, I’m free to pick colors I like and he’ll do a mock up.

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  41. Roscuro- re: your video on verbs.

    My grammar professor in grad school disagrees with anyone who says English has more than 2 tenses. Her definition is that a tense has to have a change in the verb itself. Everything else is an aspect or reference. Present and simple past are the only tenses, according to her, because all the rest require an auxiliary verb, even the future. I speak, I spoke are the two tenses of to speak. I will speak, since it requires the auxiliary “will speak” is present tense, future aspect. Having studied Spanish, French and Latin, I tend to agree with that professor concerning English verbs, but don’t make an issue of it when someone says “future tense”.

    When I was in grade school we had to learn the three principal parts of an English verb: present, past, and past participle- speak, spoke, spoken. I think the reason children don’t learn that anymore is because grammar has become something too hard to learn so many teachers don’t want to make the effort to teach it. “It might make the child feel bad if he can’t understand.” So they hope the child learns good grammar by hearing and reading it. trouble is, too many teachers themselves don’t have good grammar. And children spend so much time on line or watching TV/movies, they get bad examples and learn from them.

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  42. On the weekend, during the discussion about homelessness and mental illness, I mentioned my weekly homework was on the topic. My findings were not decisive, but the studies I read did strongly indicate that a) despite public perception, there is not a clear relationship between deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill and increases in incarceration and homeless rate, i.e. there were a lot of other factors at play that could have caused the seeming rise in arrests and homelessness in the years following, b) that community treatment of the mentally ill was effective if well planned and funded. Those make sense – there are after all, a number of highly successful people, celebrities or professionals, with severe mental health diagnoses who are neither criminals, homeless, nor institutionalized, and they all have one thing in common, the money to pay for whatever they needed. On the historical fact of deinstitutionalization, which occurred not only within the U.S. but other Western countries almost simultaneously, this paper – it was a review of studies, rather than a study itself – cited this very interesting study (one of many with similar positive findings):

    They [Harding, et al.] conducted a 32-year follow-up of 269 long-stay patients discharged in the 1950s in the USA. Seventy-nine percent had the diagnosis of schizophrenia according to Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, First Edition (DSM-I) while 13% were diagnosed as having affective disorders, and 8% as organic mental disorder. The analysis considered only individuals with schizophrenia; as such, only 54% (n=114) of those who were diagnosed as having schizophrenia at that time (DSM-I) retained the diagnosis with the DSM-III. Also, four patients were shifted from the affective illness group to the schizophrenia group, constituting an initial sample of 118 individuals with schizophrenia. Of those, 84 could be interviewed 20–25 years after their entry into the project. Sixty-eight percent of these patients did not display any further sign or symptoms of schizophrenia at follow-up; 45% displayed no psychiatric symptoms at all. [Link:https://www.dovepress.com/discharged-from-a-mental-health-admission-ward-is-it-safe-to-go-home-a-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-PRBM%5D

    What the general public does not realize is that the popular perception of schizophrenics, and other severe mental illnesses being incurable and permanently dysfunctional isn’t true. The famous mathematician, John Nash, who was made the subject of the film A Beautiful Mind was schizophrenic, and the end of the film portrays him as having to take his medication for the rest of his life; but that was a propaganda device on the part of the filmmakers, who didn’t want to discourage the mentally ill from taking their medication, as John Nash eventually was able to control his symptoms and no longer took medication by the time he received his Nobel Prize and resumed teaching at Princeton. What the mentally ill need is support, proper support appropriate to the level of their symptoms. Mental health symptoms tend to surface under periods of stress, so reduction of stress is key to helping them learn to live with their illness and even overcome it.

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  43. Peter, as I recall, the first past tense I learned in Spanish was, by that teacher’s rule, actually aspect – the one that uses haber with the participle (it has been over ten years, so my memory is rusty). I know little about what is taught in public school, having never attended, but my GED prep booklet talked about the past, present, and future perfect, which was the first time I had encountered it. I had already learned all the parts of speech from homeschooling material, including participles and gerunds, but beyond past, present, and future tense, nobody had bothered to go.

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  45. I missed wishing you a happy birthday on the day, DJ. Sorry the greeting is late. I’ve been behind on here for a while. Prayers for you with all that’s going on.

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  46. Our neighbors’ big Christmas tree is all lit up as of Monday this week. The Holiday Music Stream is already up on Minnesota Public Radio’s website. It seems Christmas prep gets closer and closer to Halloween every year. Thanksgiving seems to get left in the dust.

    Although the neighbors’ tree does look cheery. November is about my least cheery month, so maybe the brightness out my living room window at night, seeing their tree, will be a boost.

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  48. Cheryl, I went back and read the link, but not the comments.
    I do not believe the Bible supports the idea that the Church replaces Israel, if that’s what he’s getting to.
    It’s a big subject to deal with now. But Paul makes it clear to me in Romans 11, that Israel will someday see Jesus.
    Jesus wept over Jerusalem in Luke 13:35, saying “You shall not see me until you shall say, “Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”
    Zechariah 12:8f tells of a Spiritual revival among the Jews.
    I believe that some day Israel will turn to Jesus as their Messiah.
    A seminary professor once sayd, “I believe God is finished with Israel.”
    I don’t think so.

    There’s more
    This subject is too heavy to deal with in detail at this time. But it’s an important subject.
    Read Zech. 12. Someday all the nations will gather against Israel. I don’t want us (US) to be part of that. i.e. We don’t want to be on the wrong side..
    .

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