Our Daily Thread 10-15-12

Good morning.

This is the open thread. What’s on your mind?

Verse of the Day today, instead of a Quote

Romans 8:1-2

1Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,

2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death.”

News/Politics 10-13-12

What’s news today?

Some of Biden’s lies at the debate have been exposed.

These are just a few, there’s more.

First the Afghan War Support Lie,

From WFB

““I was there, I voted against them,” Biden continued. “I said, no, we can’t afford that.”

Then Sen. Biden voted for the Afghanistan resolution on Sept. 14, 2001 which authorized “the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.”

And on Oct. 11, 2002, Biden voted for a resolution authorizing unilateral military action in Iraq, according to the Washington Post.

Read more here

Then the abortion lies, from Joe and the campaign,

Catholic Bishops have responded to Biden and his public misrepresentation of reality.

From USCCB

“Last night, the following statement was made during the Vice Presidential debate regarding the decision of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to force virtually all employers to include sterilization and contraception, including drugs that may cause abortion, in the health insurance coverage they provide their employees:

“With regard to the assault on the Catholic Church, let me make it absolutely clear. No religious institution—Catholic or otherwise, including Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital—none has to either refer contraception, none has to pay for contraception, none has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any          insurance policy they provide. That is a fact. That is a fact.”

This is not a fact. The HHS mandate contains a narrow, four-part exemption for certain “religious employers.” That exemption was made final in February and does not extend to “Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital,” or any other religious charity that offers its services to all, regardless of the faith of those served.”

Read more here

Biden knows this, yet he lied about it. Just like the campaign continues to lie on behalf of the other half the ticket about his abortion enabling.

From the WeeklyStandard

“At the end of the vice presidential debate Thursday night, Joe Biden and Paul Ryan lobbed charges of extremism at one another on the issue of abortion. “The Democratic party used to say they want [abortion] to be safe, legal, and rare,” Ryan said. “Now they support it without restriction and with taxpayer funding, taxpayer funding in Obamacare, taxpayer funding with foreign aid. The vice president himself went to China and said that he sympathized or wouldn’t second-guess their one-child policy of forced abortions and sterilizations. That, to me, is pretty extreme.”

Biden shot back, saying that Ryan has “argued that, in the case of rape or incest, it was still–it would be a crime to engage in having an abortion. I just fundamentally disagree with my friend.” Debate moderator Martha Raddatz followed up with Ryan, asking if pro-choice Americans should be “worried” about Romney, but she didn’t follow up with Biden.

In the spin room following the debate, I asked top Obama officials, as well as Planned Parenthood chief Cecille Richards, if Obama’s position on abortion is as extreme as what Ryan claimed. The Obama campaign denied the president favored abortion without restriction, but top Obama officials Jim Messina, Stephanie Cutter, and David Axelrod could not name a single restriction the president supports.”

Read more here

Sorry guys, you don’t get to run from your record. You own it.

Every Major Pro-Abortion Group Has Endorsed Obama Again

Obama Campaign Tries to Hide His Pro-Abortion Mandate, Record

President Barack Obama’s Pro-Abortion Record: A Pro-Life Compilation

And they call Romney/Ryan the extremists?

Prayer Requests 10-13-12

This is the place for all things prayer related.

Psalm 31:1-3

1 In you, Lord, I have taken refuge;
let me never be put to shame;
deliver me in your righteousness.
2 Turn your ear to me,
come quickly to my rescue;
be my rock of refuge,
a strong fortress to save me.
3 Since you are my rock and my fortress,
for the sake of your name lead and guide me.

News/Politics 10-12-12

What’s news today?

I guess this is, but consider me underwhelmed.

The Debate, or as I’m gonna call it, The Argument That Passed as a Debate.

Here’s what some of the network polls had to say.

CNBC has Ryan as the winner 56%-36%

CNN has Ryan as the winner 48%-44%

Here’s what some talking heads had to say.

NBC’s David Gregory says Biden came off as “Maybe Condescending”.

Gee, ya’ think?

Fox News’ Chris Wallace calls it “Most disrespectful debate performance in my lifetime”.

And he’s pretty old.

Why would he say that? Maybe because of this.

From the WashingtonExaminer,

Vice President Joe Biden interrupted Paul Ryan 82 times in a 90-minute debate with rival Paul Ryan.

What did you think?

Our Daily Thread 10-12-12

Good Morning!

What should we talk about today?

Quote of the Day

“The media love coarse debate because coarse debate drives  ratings and ratings generate profits. Unless the TV producer happens to be  William Shakespeare, an argument is more interesting than a soliloquy – and  there will never be a shortage of people willing to argue on TV.”

John  Sununu

New UC Numbers 10-11-12

At this point, I don’t know who to believe. But I notice one state failed to report, or be included.

They haven’t named the state, but I have a hunch. If I was a desperate President from Chicago looking to intentionally fudge things, what better state than my own, where the leadership is friendly to my re-election chances. Just sayin’. We’ll see if I’m correct.

From ZeroHedge.

“Data Massaging Continues: Initial Claims Tumble To 339K Lowest Since 2008, Far Below Lowest Expectation”

“This is just getting stupid. After expectations of a rebound in initial claims from 367K last week (naturally revised higher to 369K), to 370K (with the lowest of all sellside expectations at 355K), the past week mysteriously, yet so very unsurprisingly in the aftermath of the fudged BLS unemployment number, saw claims tumble to a number that is so ridiculous not even CNBC’s Steve Liesman bothered defending it, or 339K. Ironically, not even the Labor Department is defending it: it said that “one large state didn’t report some quarterly figures.” Great, but what was reported was a headline grabbing number that is just stunning for reelection purposes. This was the lowest number since 2008. The only point to have this print? For 2-3 bulletin talking points at the Vice Presidential debate tonight. Everything else is now noise. It is also sad that the US “economy” has devolved to such trivial data fudging on a week by week basis, which makes even the Chinese Department of Truth appear amateurish by comparison. Needless to say, Not Seasonally Adjusted initial claims jumped by 26K to 327K in the past week but who’s counting.”

Read more here

Also, keep this in mind, also from ZeroHedge,

“Wake Up Media, the BLS Has Been Fudging Its Numbers for YEARS”

Pop Quiz…

How does the US economy add 800K+ jobs during a month in which employment taxes and consumer spending FALL?

Answer: magic! Or actually the BLS lied… again.

It’s truly staggering to see this brazen a lie out in the public. Even by the BLS’s standards (which has been massaging the @#$% out of its jobs data for years) this latest monthly employment number was a stretch.

Of course, no one bothers explaining just how fraudulent the data was, because that would mean questioning the credibility of the BLS. Instead the whole issue becomes one of politics in which the talking head idiots spar about nothing of import, in yet another attempt to distract the masses from the fact that the Government openly lies about inflation, employment, GDP data and just about everything else.”

Read more here

And check out the comment from OC Money Man in the comments, titled “PRESIDENT HOUDINI THE EMPLOYMENT MAGICIAN”

Are the new welfare work requirement rules, changed by Obama, being used to manipulate data by calling welfare recipients employed? Good question.

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UPDATE

So who is the State not reporting? The BLS isn’t saying.

From BusinessInsider

“And from the WSJ:

“However, the report may not be as positive as  the sharp drop indicates. A Labor Department economist said one large state  didn’t report additional quarterly figures as expected, accounting for a  substantial part of the decrease.”

Initially, rumors started circulating that an entire state’s worth of jobless  claims was excluded.

The DoL was not immediately available to comment.

However, CNBC’s  Kelly Evans is reporting that the discrepancy is that “one state did not  process & report its typical seasonal workload” and that a rebound next week  is likely.

Read more here

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UPDATE II

From CNBC

“Here’s what actually happened. The state did report weekly jobless claims but did not process and report its quarterly claims number (when many people have to reapply for benefits for technical reasons as opposed to being newly laid off). As a result, there wasn’t the expected spike in claims that normally happens at the start of the quarter.

It is unclear why that happened or how unusual that is. What is clear is that the expected spike in claims around the start of each quarter was smaller this time than usual. Coupled with the seasonal adjustment (that expected a bigger increase), that pushed down the headline figure.

In other words, the drop of 30,000 last week had more to do with the lack of expected re-filings at the start of the fourth quarter than with any particular improvement in labor market conditions.”

Read more here

They still haven’t identified the state responsible.