46 thoughts on “News/Politics 5-4-22

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  2. “There is no valid defense of Roe. That’s why that side resorts to threats”

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/restoring-america/equality-not-elitism/there-is-no-valid-defense-of-roe-thats-why-that-side-resorts-to-threats

    “Roe v. Wade “is not constitutional law and gives almost no sense of an obligation to try to be.” That was the conclusion in the Yale Law Journal of pro-choice legal scholar John Hart Ely.

    “One of the most curious things about Roe is that, behind its own verbal smokescreen, the substantive judgment on which it rests is nowhere to be found.” That’s liberal legal scholar Laurence Tribe.

    It’s near-consensus among legal scholars, even those who believe abortion should be legal, that Roe was a shoddy decision, not grounded in the Constitution.

    “You will be hard-pressed to find a constitutional law professor, even among those who support the idea of constitutional protection for the right to choose, who will embrace the opinion itself rather than the result,” wrote pro-choice scholar Kermit Roosevelt in the Washington Post.

    “This is not surprising,” Roosevelt continued. “As constitutional argument, Roe is barely coherent.”

    The Constitution quite obviously does not protect abortion as a fundamental right. Roe relied on a “right of privacy” “emanating” from a “penumbra” cast by actually enumerated rights. It was clearly motivated reasoning.

    Abortion has thus been protected from democracy by a ruling that everyone knows is garbage, motivated reasoning . I’ve collected here many pro-choice legal scholars saying how bad Roe was.

    Subject to scrutiny, Roe falls, and abortion defenders need to convince politicians to vote in order to strip unborn babies of any legal protections.

    This is why the pro-Roe side is relying on threats to protect Roe. Democrats promise that they will declare the Supreme Court illegitimate if it doesn’t uphold their decision. That directly implies that they believe the federal government and state courts should disregard any subsequent rulings from the court.

    Some Democratic senators already declare the Supreme Court is illegitimate. That means they don’t believe in the Constitution and thus have violated their oath of office.

    Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts is threatening to pack the court — add four or more additional justices so that Democrats have a majority. (You can imagine the one-upping cycle this would set off.)

    Bullying a court to rule along with the party in power has a storied history (FDR did it), but it doesn’t exactly smell of good norms.”

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  3. California’s so-called leaders are just evil.

    And they want taxpayers to foot the bill for abortion tourism.

    “California lawmakers push to make the state a haven for ‘abortion tourism'”

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/california-lawmakers-push-to-make-the-state-a-haven-for-abortion-tourism

    “Under a new law proposed by state lawmakers in California, a largely tax-subsidized fund could become available to help people from out-of-state access abortions.

    California State Senators Nancy Skinner and Anna Caballero introduced Senate Bill 1142, which, if passed into law, will establish a public-private fund for the sole purpose of providing grant money to nonprofits to assist “low-income pregnant women” get “access to abortion services.”

    This bill has the explicit goal of attracting out-of-state women who seek abortion services which would subsequently establish California as a state friendly to abortion tourism.

    PJ Media reported that the amount of taxpayer money used to support the fund would be determined by the California legislature.

    SB 1142 is a self-styled response to laws passed in multiple Republican-controlled states that limit abortions to before the detection of a fetal heartbeat and is a preemptive attempt to codify protections to abortion access in law before the Supreme Court potentially overturns Roe v. Wade.

    Sen. Skinner said in a statement, “The U.S. Supreme Court’s conservative majority seems poised to do the unthinkable. If the court overturns 50 years of settled law and takes away a woman’s constitutional right to an abortion, California will not stand idly by.”

    She continued, “With SB 1142, California sends a clear message to the rest of the nation: We are fully committed to ensuring that California women and those who may seek refuge here have access to all reproductive services, including abortion.”

    In the September of 2021, California Governor Gavin Newsom signed two bills into law that prioritized securing the privacy of women who received abortions and the abortionists who provided them with these services, reported ABC News.

    In doing so, Gov. Newsom declared California to be a “reproductive freedom state,” which he viewed to be in direct contrast to the state of Texas’s work to limit access to abortion.

    The recently passed laws made it a crime to film people within 100 feet of an abortion clinic for the purpose of intimidation and make it easier for young women who are on their parents’ insurance plans to keep sensitive medical information, like whether they received an abortion, private.”

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    More…..

    https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220SB1142

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  4. But muh norms….

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    At least Joe finally admitted the inconvenient truth….

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  5. They are their own worst enemy, and they don’t even see it. Nothing has devastated and culled the minority communities than abortion. Never forget that abortion is racist, just as Sanger designed it to be. That is an undeniable fact.

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  6. She whines about lost potential?

    What about the potential in the child you support aborting?

    Don’t you hear how stupid you sound lady?

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  7. Of course it would probably come from the camp of one of the pro-abort lefty judges.

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  8. It is a good time to remember to pray for him and all those Christians in government striving to be faithful to the truth, striving to be light and salt in a difficult place. It is a good time to remind ourselves to rejoice when persecuted for righteousness sake, because Jesus said the reward will be great. It is a good time to be reminded to pray for our enemies and love them. It is a good time to remember the scriptures like Psalm 37.

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  9. Amen.

    Meanwhile in the California MISSION FIELD, I’ve been praying physical protection for the pregnancy counseling centers.

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  10. Eating their own, for wrong think….

    In case you’re unfamiliar with PAAU….

    “We’re progressive grassroots activists dismantling the abortion industrial complex & standing in solidarity with the unborn victims killed by abortion violence.”

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    Stop being nice. Call it what it is. Evil.

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  11. Just gonna leave this here….

    “MIT study finds COVID vaccines ‘significantly associated’ with jump in emergency heart problems

    Israeli data on 16-39 year-olds adds fuel to campaigns against coerced jabs. Italian court strikes down mandate, and U.S. pilots accuse FAA of ignoring severe adverse reactions among pilots.”

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/mit-study-finds-covid-vaccines-significantly-associated-jump-emergency

    “COVID-19 vaccination was “significantly associated” with a 25% jump in emergency medical services (EMS) for heart problems in 16-39 year-olds in Israel, whose vaccination rate is among the world’s highest, according to a peer-reviewed study by MIT researchers.

    Published last week in the Nature journal Scientific Reports, the study found no association with COVID infections, however.

    “While not establishing causal relationships, the findings raise concerns regarding vaccine-induced undetected severe cardiovascular side-effects and underscore the already established causal relationship between vaccines and myocarditis, a frequent cause of unexpected cardiac arrest in young individuals,” the study says.

    The research adds more fuel to the legal and grassroots campaigns against compelled vaccination.

    An Italian administrative court deemed a vaccine mandate on nursing students unconstitutional, citing nearly 10,000 reported deaths from various COVID vaccines in the European Medicines Agency’s EudraVigilance monitoring system, but referred the case to the country’s Constitutional Court. (The new MIT study also mentions EudraVigilance.)

    Published in late March, the 53-page ruling only drew attention in the U.S. last week when an anti-vaccine mandate group translated a portion. Just the News ran the ruling through Google Translate, which said in part the reported death count exceeds the “normal and, therefore, tolerable” risk permitted under vaccine mandates.”

    Click to access Italian-court-ruling-vaccine-mandate.pdf

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  12. Of course…..

    The Biden admins pro-invader policies continue….

    “‘Alien always wins rule:’ Biden invents new way to keep illegals in country with circular process

    Texas lawsuit exposes regulatory change limiting judges’ power to deport, creating numerous loopholes for aliens.”

    https://justthenews.com/government/security/alien-always-win-rule-biden-invents-new-way-keep-illegals-country-circular

    “Facing mounting losses in the courts over its immigration policies, the Biden administration has invented a new tactic for keeping as many illegal aliens in the country as possible: Create a circular bureaucratic process loop indefinitely delaying deportation.

    The newest tactic was exposed last week in a lawsuit filed by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton challenging obscure regulatory changes by the Homeland Security Department that shifted the power to deport away from immigration judges to civilian bureaucrats while allowing aliens multiple means of delaying and appealing.

    “The Interim Rule sets forth all kinds of exceptions from the procedures and timelines in the new regulations, generally always inuring to the alien’s benefit,” Paxton wrote in his lawsuit.

    “In summary, the Interim Rule transfers significant authority from immigration judges to asylum officers, grants those asylum officers significant additional authority, limits immigration-judge review to denials of applications, and upends the entire adjudicatory system to the benefit of aliens,” the suit added.”

    Click to access Texas%20v.%20Biden%20%28Asylum%20Rule%20Complaint%29%20%28as-filed%2004.28.2022%29.pdf

    “The vast majority of asylum cases that reach an immigration judge are rejected, about 71% of the time under President Trump, though it fell to 63% in the first year of the Biden presidency. And most aliens are then subjected to expedited removal.

    What the Biden administration did is create interim rules that significantly bypass the immigration judges, allowing civilian bureaucrats working for the Customs and Immigration Service to take new actions that delay or circumvent expedited removal.

    The Texas lawsuit noted several of the changes, including that “individuals subject to expedited removal and found to have a credible fear of persecution or torture would have their claims for asylum, withholding of removal … or Convention Against Torture … protection initially adjudicated by USCIS following a nonadversarial interview before an asylum officer.”

    Aliens who lose at the immigration court level now can appeal and and get reconsidered by the CIS bureaucracy under most favorable conditions, the Texas suit noted. And aliens who lose at both the court and CIS level and facing “expedited removal proceedings would be eligible for consideration for parole.”

    John Zadrozny, a former White House immigration adviser to President Trump, told Just the News the new rules have simply created a circular bureaucratic process with little end in sight, meaning most aliens who enter it can stay in America indefinitely for years.

    “What this rule basically does is it destroys expedited removal for all intents and purposes, and creates an endless loop of review that will prevent an alien from really ever being removed under the expedited removal process,” Zadrozny explained during an interview Monday on the John Solomon Reports podcast.

    “We’re calling this the ‘Alien always wins rule,’ because that’s basically what it is: It’s designed to prevent them from [ever] getting a final negative adjudication” authorizing their removal from the country,” Zadrozny said. “

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  13. Liars lie, right Joe….

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  14. Remember when some guy here used to call this fraud a “principled conservative”?

    Yeah….

    Then….

    Now….

    I guess he’s evolved….. 🤡

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  15. The cultists don’t support conservatives…

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    Except now that it’s happening, he’s changed his tune….

    It’s almost like he’s just another lying political opportunist, like Mittens.

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  16. Not surprisingly, these frauds too are warning against overturning Roe……

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    And of course, these frauds too…

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  17. Take note….

    “The early primaries were nearly all Trump’s”

    https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/05/04/the-early-primaries-were-nearly-all-trumps-n466879

    “Allahpundit posted the winners and losers from yesterday’s primaries last night, but some depressed folks in the mainstream media immediately began ruminating on what they clearly viewed as an alarming trend. Perhaps the biggest winner, particularly in Ohio, was someone whose name wasn’t even on the ballot. Donald Trump’s endorsed candidates ran roughshod over the competition in a sign that his influence in the GOP is far from fading. The Associated Press called it a case of Trump “passing the test as a kingmaker.”

    The primary elections in Ohio and Indiana on Tuesday stood as the first real test of former President Donald Trump’s status as the Republican Party kingmaker — and he passed.

    Trump’s chosen candidate, “Hillbilly Elegy” author and one-time investment banker JD Vance, won the crowded Republican primary for U.S. Senate in Ohio, giving Trump a strong beginning to primary season.

    Vance, former State Treasurer Josh Mandel, businessman Mike Gibbons and former state GOP chair Jane Timken all vied for Trump’s endorsement, increasingly adopting language that mirrored the former president’s bombastic, populist style. In the end, Trump went with Vance, who in 2016 said the celebrity businessman could become “America’s Hitler” but has since become an avid supporter.”

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  18. Schumer lies, it’s what he does….

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  19. Nice…. 🙂

    “Manchin and Sinema Just Killed Democrat Hopes of Codifying Roe v. Wade”

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/05/04/manchin-and-sinema-on-fillibuster-if-roe-gets-overturned-n2606700

    “This week, Democrat Senators Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona dashed the hopes of their more radical colleagues amid renewed calls to pass a federal law that would overrule state limits or prohibitions on abortion.

    Calls for slim Democrat majorities in the House and Senate to quickly advance a bill, the inaccurate and grossly named “Women’s Health Protection Act,” that would codify Roe v. Wade’s concocted right to abortion were swift. Almost a little too swift, perhaps, in the wake of an unprecedented leak from the Supreme Court that showed a draft opinion by Justice Samuel Alito overturning Roe.

    The bill was already passed by Speaker Pelosi’s Democrat caucus in the House of Representatives, but in order to get the legislation past the Senate and on to President Biden’s desk for signature, the bill would need to garner 60 votes in order to move the bill to a final vote, something that’s just not going to happen with the current 50-50 split.

    So, again, norm-shattering Dems called for the termination of the legislative filibuster requiring 60 votes to move bills ahead for a vote so they could force the Women’s Health Protection Act through. But again, Senators Manchin and Sinema aren’t having it.

    In a statement released and tweeted by Senator Sinema, she restated her position that a “woman’s healthcare choices should be between her, her family, and her doctor,” but explained why she won’t nuke the filibuster in order to pass a shortsighted Democrat bill.”

    “Protections in the Senate safeguarding against the erosion of women’s access to health care have been used half-a-dozen times in the past ten years, and are more important now than ever,” Sinema’s statement explained in her defense of the legislative filibuster. Without it, a future slim Republican majority could advance pretty much anything they want, including federal restrictions on abortion.

    Sinema has staunchly defended the procedural hurdle amid crushing pressure from her own side of the aisle — and calls for violence against her from former Democrat officials — to join them in ending its protection against slim majorities being able to ram through whatever legislation they want. So too, has Senator Manchin.

    His response to questions about joining radical Democrats to end the legislative filibuster was predictable and in-line with his previous defense of its preservation:”

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  20. Joe Biden built this.

    “Oh, great. Taliban using abandoned biometric data to target Afghan helpers”

    https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/05/04/oh-great-taliban-using-abandoned-biometric-data-to-target-afghan-helpers-n466980

    “It’s long been known that America’s disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan last summer left behind a massive trove of more than seven billion dollars worth of weapons and other military equipment. This has made the Taliban one of the most well-armed military forces in the region. But there were other goodies left behind for the terrorists to rummage through. There were countless computers and other data storage devices. Some of these contained all of the personnel records of our Afghan helpers ranging from translators to teachers and general maintenance workers. Those records included all manner of biometric and personal data such as home addresses and the identity of relatives living in the area. Now the Taliban is using that data to track down the helpers that we left behind and imprison or execute them, and members of the Senate want answers as to how this happened. (Free Beacon)

    Congress is demanding answers from the Biden administration following a disclosure that reams of biometric data abandoned by the United States during its bungled withdrawal from Afghanistan are being used by the Taliban to target American allies still stuck in the war-torn nation.

    Eight Republican senators led by Sen. Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.) are asking the State and Defense Departments to turn over information related to the evacuation of U.S. troops in Afghanistan that allowed the Taliban to retake control of the country. In addition to leaving behind $7 billion worth of military hardware, the United States abandoned “sensitive data, including biometric data,” on Afghan allies that are now reportedly being used by the Taliban to target those who supported the United States’ 20-year war in the country…

    The probe comes just weeks after Human Rights Watch, an advocacy organization, released a bombshell report detailing how the Taliban is using abandoned biometric data to eradicate those who worked alongside the United States.

    Human Rights Watch recently released a report detailing the Taliban’s atrocities, including their recovery of the biometric and personnel data. It is not known how many of our helpers were lost in this fashion.

    The electronic records included iris scans, fingerprints, and photographs, along with the personnel records I mentioned above. That makes it awfully easy for the Taliban to ID people conclusively even if they are attempting to live under an assumed identity. This has led to “targeted killings, torture, and forced disappearances” of the helpers who worked in cooperation with America and our allies during the war. And with the world’s international media focused on Ukraine right now, the Taliban is using this opportunity to continue eradicating our helpers while fewer media outlets are watching.”

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  21. Yep.

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    You would think after yesterday’s Roe story Dems would be out and motivated.

    And you’d be wrong.

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  22. Vetted….?

    Pfffffttttt….. No.

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  23. It’s funny to hear the leader of the party that supports abortion right up until birth call others the most extreme political org ever. 🙂

    Clown. 🤡

    Just like the clowns over at MSDNC. Did you know that next we’re going to make all forms of contraception illegal?

    I didn’t either, but they would never lie and clearly know us better than we know ourselves. 🙂

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    Sure, but we’re the extremists, right clowns….?

    “Democrat Party Platform: We Support Abortions Up to Birth, Making Americans Fund Abortions”

    https://www.lifenews.com/2020/09/03/democrat-party-platform-we-support-abortions-up-to-birth-making-americans-fund-abortions/

    “Thus what the Republican Party and the Democrat Party have to say about abortion in 2020 is must reading for us. And they could not possibly be any more different.”

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    “They are best read without commentary from me or anyone else. Why? Simply because the platforms literally speak for themselves.”

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    2020 Democratic Party Platform on abortion: Securing Reproductive Health, Rights, and Justice

    Democrats are committed to protecting and advancing reproductive health, rights, and justice. We believe unequivocally, like the majority of Americans, that every woman should be able to access high-quality reproductive health care services, including safe and legal abortion. We will repeal the Title X domestic gag rule and restore federal funding for Planned Parenthood, which provides vital preventive and reproductive health care for millions of people, especially low-income people, and people of color, and LGBTQ+ people, including in underserved areas.

    Democrats oppose and will fight to overturn federal and state laws that create barriers to reproductive health and rights. We will repeal the Hyde Amendment, and protect and codify the right to reproductive freedom. We condemn acts of violence, harassment, and intimidation of reproductive health providers, patients, and staff. We will address the discrimination and barriers that inhibit meaningful access to reproductive health care services, including those based on gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, race, income, disability, geography, and other factors. Democrats oppose restrictions on medication abortion care that are inconsistent with the most recent medical and scientific evidence and that do not protect public health.

    We recognize that quality, affordable comprehensive health care; medically accurate, LGBTQ+ inclusive, age-appropriate sex education; and the full range of family planning services are all essential to ensuring that people can decide if, when, and how to start a family. We are proud to be the party of the Affordable Care Act, which prohibits discrimination in health care on the basis of sex and requires insurers to cover prescription contraceptives at no cost. These efforts have significantly reduced teen and unintended pregnancies by making it easier to decide whether, when, and how to have a child.

    We believe that a person’s health should always come first. Democrats will protect the rights of all people to make personal health care decisions, and will reject the Trump Administration’s use of broad exemptions to allow medical providers, employers, and others to discriminate.”

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    “Dems Bring Abortion on Demand until Birth Act to Vote”

    https://www.frc.org/updatearticle/20220225/dems-abortion

    “On February 28, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) will bring the Abortion on Demand Until Birth Act, otherwise known as the Women’s Health Protection Act (WHPA, S. 1975), to a vote. This legislation codifies Roe v. Wade’s precedent of legal abortion through the entirety of pregnancy. The bill passed the House in September and needs 60 votes in order to pass the Senate. If the bill does pass and is signed into law, it will become the first-ever piece of federal legislation legalizing the killing of an unborn child.

    The U.S. Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade decision ruled that abortion is protected under the U.S. Constitution. In doing so, the Court overturned nearly every state-level protection for life in the womb and usurped the power of state legislators to pass laws reflective of their constituents’ views in regard to protecting the unborn. Currently, only 17 percent of Americans (including 31 percent of Democrats) agree that abortion should be available to a woman any time she wants one during her entire pregnancy (a view in line with Roe and its companion case Doe v. Bolton). Yet after decades of tyranny under Roe, state and federal efforts to protect the unborn have largely failed. That began to change in 2011 with a wave of pro-life laws.

    With Democrats currently in control of the U.S. House, Senate, and White House, no one could have predicted the recent success pro-lifers have had protecting life in the womb. Texas passed the Heartbeat Bill, which protects life in the womb once an unborn child’s heartbeat can be detected. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled Texas’ law can remain in effect even as litigation challenging the bill remains ongoing. In another Lone Star State victory, Lubbock, Texas, became a sanctuary city for the unborn and the first place in America to completely protect life in the womb since the Roe decision.

    Perhaps most importantly, the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to hear the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization case, which concerns the constitutionality of Mississippi’s Gestational Age Act and pre-viability protections for the unborn. Since the oral arguments in December, many have speculated that the Court will most likely return the issue of legislating on abortion to the states. The Abortion on Demand Until Birth Act is the response of Democrats in Congress.

    The Abortion on Demand Until Birth Act is co-sponsored by all but two Democrats. Senator Bob Casey (D-Pa.) didn’t co-sponsor the bill but did vote to bring it to the Senate floor. Senator Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) has completely distanced himself from the legislation. This bill embodies the extremism of the Democratic Party platform, which supports abortion through birth.”

    All but 2 supported this. Abortion up until birth sounds….

    What’s the word….?

    Extremist.

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  24. More inconvenient truths….

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  26. So none is what the hack is saying….

    They’re lying again.

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  27. Fauxahontas heap mad….

    She can see the abortion industry dollars disappearing from her campaign coffers.

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  29. He’s such a good Catholic….

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  30. No, this is what a mob looks like.

    This is what we’re up against folks.

    CONTENT WARNING, and it ain’t for the pro-lifer….

    https://twitter.com/AmericanPigeon/status/1521697415534948352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1521697415534948352%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsarahd-313035%2F2022%2F05%2F04%2Fya-fckin-uncle-tom-sea-of-angry-hard-left-pro-aborts-set-their-sights-on-black-pro-lifer-at-nyc-protest-video%2F

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  31. Kathaleena, way back there somewhere, I’ll add my amen as well (since I can’t “like”). Good reminders.

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  32. Abortion is a winning issue for Democrats — about 60% of Americans support abortion rights. The confusing part for many is that most Americans would not consider abortion in their own personal situation. In other words, Americans don’t want the gov’t telling them what they can or can’t do but at the same time most will make the pro-life decision. And again, I point out that countries with very liberal abortion laws or none at all have lower abortion rates than the US. Give people a choice and they usually make the right one.

    Abortion “tourism” is not new. Until recently it was estimated about 6000 Irish women a year made a trip to Liverpool for an abortion. Currently, many Polish women go to Stockholm, Berlin and elsewhere for abortions. Medical tourism isn’t unusual….Germans go to Poland for elective and cosmetic surgery. In North America, Americans and Canadians do the same in Mexico. Anyone who thinks the brute force of the state can prevent abortion is naive.

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  33. Keep whistling past the graveyard….

    You failed to mention that the majority, 53% don’t support abortion at all after 15 weeks, while only 32% do. You aren’t winning voters over this. See the post at 12:51….

    Here’s the proof….

    Abortion doesn’t even make the list. Sure it will rile up and motivate the 20% of pro-aborts fanatics the Dems already have, but it isn’t gonna win them any new true believers.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/02/16/publics-top-priority-for-2022-strengthening-the-nations-economy/

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    https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/02/16/publics-top-priority-for-2022-strengthening-the-nations-economy/pp_2022-02-16_priorities_0-01/

    And as we learned in Ohio last night, Dem voter turnout was down, R voter turnout was up. So you want us to believe that the Dem party all ran out to riot and protest, yet couldn’t find time to vote?

    Sure…. keep whistling….

    See the post at 135.

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  34. Just like last election cycle, Biden and Democrats send in their thugs….

    That’s sure to win voters over to their side, just like defund the police did….

    Oh wait, no…

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  35. The truth is abortion is largely a selfishly murderous choice usually only for convenience in the US, Planned Parenthoods own numbers from their in house statisticians at the Guttmacher Institute shows this.

    This will not win voters, and word is getting out.

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  36. HRW, but there are many nuances in where people fall on this issue. Many, while thinking it should be medically available, think there should be restrictions on the practice that often conflict with the left’s view that there should be few — or even know restrictions.

    I think more folks today would say that life begins at conception. Remember those who argued a fetus is a “clump of cells”? I think there are fewer of those folks than there once was. To those supporting life, it’s always been obvious, of course, and it defies logic to try to argue otherwise.

    So I think people are generally conflicted, perhaps leaning to one side or the other, but not all that dug-in on their views.

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  37. And I also would say that the ‘life” movement has made some significant cultural and political strides in that abortion is not viewed as “lightly” as it once was. It’s a regrettable act, sometimes considered necessary in some people’s minds; but it’s never something that’s ever forgotten and is often quite regretted.

    In college, a friend of my then-boyfriend didn’t want to be on contraception because she thought she’d gain weight. She had several, serial abortions — used basically as her “birth control” — which was horrifying to us back then but I also think it was viewed much more casually back then (the 70s).

    I don’t think you see that now. I’d say people, young people included, are much more enlightened now and see abortion for what it is — the taking of a life. At its heart, it’s an issue that I think has more agreement than not on that point.

    Whether the law should allow for the practice is where the debate is centered, but that also is where, I believe, many voters want to see reasonable restraints on it.

    So it’s not so black and white, not one side vs the other side when considering the political persuasions among those who may have no religious scruples per se — but deep down, they know the truth.

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