Good morning.
Jo, I have. Cool! Which is why we need to be praying for our brothers and sisters. We never know how God is going to place them and put them to use.
Good morning, Chas. I was lifting you in prayer a bit earlier. I know these days are difficult. I hope you are able to feel comforted by the Lord. I think some people tend to push away God when they are angry about their losses. I don’t think of you as being that way.
My Bible memory verse for today:
“Indeed it was for my own benefit that I had such great bitterness, but Your love delivered me from the Pit of Destruction for You have thrown all my sins behind Your back.”
Bible Trivia question: Who said that? (Don’t look it up. Just post if you know the answer.)
I saw an interesting little historical clip yesterday about the woman who developed the first effective treatment for leprosy – read about her here: https://www.biography.com/scientist/alice-ball
But the clip also mentioned the lifetime social isolation that was the fate of lepers before a cure was found, and it got me thinking about how that must have been for them. Leviticus 13:45-46: “The person afflicted with an infectious skin disease is to have his clothes torn and his hair hanging loose, and he must cover his mouth and cry out, ‘Unclean, unclean!’ He will remain unclean as long as he has the infection; he is unclean. He must live alone in a place outside the camp.” Masking and lifelong social isolation was the fate of lepers.
Good morning! Small group was a sweet time of fellowship and prayer…and food…I fed 12 people…I was exhausted…but I awakened at 3 this morning…it’s going to be a day! 💤
Now I am off to meet a friend for breakfast then we are going to walk around the antique mall. We should be walking out on the trail but the mud is just too much for us to deal with! 😊
New dishwasher arrived yesterday, Mr. Engineer installed it, and now it’s begging to be hooked up to the Internet so it can talk to the washing machine.
Michelle, can your washing machine talk? Or is it not a ‘smart’ machine? Our washing machine is newer, but not ‘smart’, but even if it was, there would be nothing to talk to, as there is no dishwasher and no dryer.
It’s a rain day here in LA, a rare and joyous occurrence for us. I’m hoping we get enough to wash my car off; downside of cars in dark colors is they really do show the “dust” and dirt quickly.
Here’s a question of the day. You have a twelve-year-old daughter. Her diary is on the kitchen counter. Under what circumstances is it OK to read it?
You can come up with your own answer, but for simplicity I will suggest a few options:
(1) It’s your house, your kid, in a public area, and it’s OK to read it.
(2) It’s your house, your kid, and even if it’s in a drawer in her bedroom it’s OK to read it.
(3) It’s OK to read it if you have made clear that anything in this house is under your authority and you have the right to read it or look inside it at any time. (No expectation of privacy.)
(4) It’s OK to read it if you have very strong reason to be concerned, for instance reason to believe that several in her peer group have begun taking drugs.
(5) It’s OK to read it if you cannot reach her and you are afraid she has run away or been kidnaped.
(6) It’s never OK to read it, unless she has given you permission or she has died.
5) for the investigators looking for clues as to her whereabouts (even patient confidentiality can be overridden in criminal investigations). Otherwise, 6.
I thought of Naomi for Janice’s QoD, but I couldn’t remember her singing a Psalm. Now I do, at the end of the book of Ruth.
Or maybe it is another of the Psalmists: Asaph, or Ethan, or Moses. Although I really do not think it is Ethan’s or Moses’s style, and not quite like Asaph either. Naomi is a good possibility.
Cheryl, I tell them 3 but only follow through with four or five, if I see a significant personality change that could indicate danger to them or family. There are many more dangers than drugs. Internet danger, sex abuse, alcohol abuse, suicidal thoughts, self harm all come to mind.
Kevin B, Bible trivia is a misnomer. Maybe I should have called it a Bible stumper? Should I give any clues, give the answer, or wait to see if anyone else can think of who said those words?
For Cheryl’s question,I think the people who live in a household would know each other’s personalities well enough to know whether or not what they left out in public view would be kept private. That was never an issue I had to deal with. I can’t say for certain what I would do if presented with the opportunity. I do know that from working in a tax office that there are many opportunities to satisfy curiosity if someone is so inclined. I was always curious about occupations somewhat like a matching game . . . does that person look like a teacher, a truck driver, a sales clerk, etc? But, when you have to deal with so many people, it sort of dulls the desire to know personal details.
Once I was rather shocked to find that my mother had pulled a piece of trash from my bedroom garbage can and confronted me with it when I was middle school age. A girlfriend who was more knowledgeable of the world than I had written something on a note she had passed to me that may have been like a scene from a soap opera. The girl’s name was Shelly. I remember that much. I don’t remember what I said in defense, but I do remember thinking my assumed privacy was not what I thought it was.
I went to Publix after Bible study. I spent $130+ and thought of how much Michelle spends. Then I read her post above! It was a lot for me to spend today especially considering I don’t buy meat. We still eat eggs and occasionally salmon. I had to buy a large box of cat litter so that was my most expensive purchase of the day.
For our first four children, it was a given that dad could leave his wallet wherever he put it and, though they might be able to tell him where it was, they would not be able to say what was in it because it was not theirs. That transferred to each other’s stuff.
We had a long hard slog with the next group. I remember when one son was shocked when we stopped by the public school and he saw that people just left their backpacks in a line out on the sidewalk for various activities. “Don’t they steal stuff??” No. That changed when he started attending school.
We did not feel the need to check the older’s stuff but definitely with some (not all) of the youngers, and with good reason. But they knew it so would often leave things they wanted us to notice. Like the preg testing kit, whiskey, marijuana, killing messages, etc. We probably should have checked the others more.
Janice, the problem is that I am most familiar with the Bible passages in the language of the KJV. Since your verse is in a more modern translation, I’m trying to ‘translate’ how it would sound in the KJV. Now I’m wondering if the words of Paul on his hardships would sound like that in a modern translation.
Then again, Paul wasn’t usually directly addressing God during those descriptions (only in Romans 7, and that wouldn’t fit).
It has been a fun conundrum to ponder while I have been waiting between appointments. I tried to line up all the appointments I had today so there was enough space between them but not too much. It didn’t quite work out.
I found part of the Bible verse in the little devotional journal I am finishing up today. It read, “In love you have delivered my life from the pit of destruction, for you have cast all my sins behind your back.” I was looking for a verse to memorize, so I looked it up and found the full verse. I was surprised by who it referred to, but once known it is not surprising.
Roscuro, here’s the KJV for you to continue pondering.
Behold, for peace I had great bitterness: but thou hast in love to my soul delivered it from the pit of corruption: for thou hast cast all my sins behind thy back.
Chas, Greek was the trade language, so he would have used that on his travels and certainly in his writings. He was educated in the liturgical language of Hebrew – he spoke to the lynch mob at the Temple in Hebrew, which made them quieten down long enough to listen. He probably also knew Aramaic, the common language of Palestine, and probably had knowledge of Latin, ad he was able to address the Roman governor Festus fluently.
I have a wild urge to guess Sampson, but I cannot remember him singing poetry.
The other person I had an urge to guess this morning was Israel (Jacob) but the only poetry I can remember him speaking was the prophecy of his son’s tribes. It is that poetic utterance that is my sticking point. While their is more song in the Bible than just the Psalms, not everyone is recorded as singing.
Getting warmer, Roscuro. I think if I give the verse in either the New Living Translation or the International Children’s Version (or is it Bible) that it would be clearer and more easily guessed or known. Are you ready for that?
Mumsee, I eliminated Deborah because hers and Barak’s song was one of triumph and victory, and Miriam’s son is extremely short, just about the horse and his rider being cast into the sea.
A lovely breakfast with a dear friend…then onto the antique mall…we had such fun. I feel the need to take a nap now 😊
Cheryl’s QOD…4 and 5….I was in such a position with one of my children. Her journal was not on the kitchen counter but in her room. Her bizarre behavior and phone calls from unknown parents of unknown friends, from the youth pastor, the school principal, teachers, information from friend’s sightings of her in town without our knowledge…that was enough for me to clean her room. This lead to doctor visits, counseling, and eventually after much prayer, sending her to a Christian ranch for girls for her last year of high school. We needed her to be safe and alive and that was the only avenue we could see taking to accomplish that goal. She never was angry for my reading of her journal. She could not explain the lies and false fantasies of her words written. And all these years later she is alive but we have no relationship with her…. 😞
There was another associate of Asaph who wrote a Psalm, but once again, he isn’t quoted outside the Psalms. The only other author I can recall of a Psalm is completely anonymous:
I did not realize that Cher would be so scantily dressed in that video from way back then. Nothing new under the sun. I should have put only the song title as the clue.
I couldn’t see the link anyway Janice. Just mentioning it being in the book of Isaiah (and clearly not Isaiah himself), made me remember Hezekiah’s prayer.
Janice, your 5:43 was exactly the two clues I would have suggested. I had no others in mind. For me the Psalms clue would have been a complete red herring, since I’d never heard that authorship theory.
Roscuro, nice work. Was it the two clues, or was it the song title that did it for you?
Without going into great detail, I’m editing someone who spoke of a preteen leaving a diary on the counter, and her parents reading it and confronting her because she used bad words in it and a couple of other things. And she speaks of the girl betraying them because she was being a bad daughter in what she wrote in her diary. I was just wanting a bit of a cross-section of public opinion that I’m correct in the idea that parents don’t read a diary just “because it’s there,” that they need to have good reason to do so. In my own personal opinion, any betrayal goes the other way, that you only read your child’s mail or diary if you’re beginning to suspect her teacher is seducing her or her best friend if offering her drugs, or some other behavior that is a serious threat to her and to your family. Just as the interest of public safety sometimes includes knocking someone to the ground, it sometimes includes reading someone’s diary or mail–but you don’t do it “just because.”
I do think that children need to understand that the house is their parents’ house and they are under parental authority. It’s wise parents who wait to give their children internet access and who keep it public. And keeping communication open is a good thing. But the idea that minors can’t have any private thoughts or alone space isn’t good. And many a preteen or teen girl has said things in her diary that she doesn’t quite mean as she works out her thoughts and feelings.
What they write in their journals is never a reflection on the family, it is their thoughts and feelings. It may include wrong activity of the parents but people are entitled to their thoughts and just because a child thinks she has the worst parent on the planet does not make it so.
Mumsee, Isaiah 38:7-8
“This is the sign to you from the LORD, that the LORD will do this thing that he has promised: See, I will make the shadow cast by the decking sun on the dial of Ahaz turn back ten steps. So the sun turned back on the dial the ten steps by which it had declined.” NRSV
And didn’t he have that son a few years later that turned out to be a real jerk? Though I think he may have come around at the end but was considered an evil king. Mannaseh?
If you read in the linked sermon, it explains about verse 38:20 being the clue that Hezekiah was likely the author of those Psalms. It is pretty fascinating to think about if you have never heard about it before. I obviously had not forgotten about hearing of it probably fifteen or so years ago from Chuck Swindoll’s message.
CBD update: I know you have all been waiting for this. Surprisingly, the first package that arrived in NJ on the 23rd of February and again on the 28th, is still in transit and expected to be late. It was scheduled to arrive today.
The other, scheduled for Thursday, left Cicero Illlinois and went to Berwyn, Illinois. Apparently, Illinois is a very large state because it was there for four days. Maybe poorly run and needs a project organizer or some such thing. We will see how the remaining states do. It will hardly have time to pass us by at this rate.
Back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Chas, you may enjoy reading that sermon. It goes into Hezekiah asking for the extension of his life partly so he could have an heir and share his faith, etc., with the younger family members. That is such an important thing to do, especially these days.
FedEx Delivery Delays Stretch for Weeks After Storms Hit Memphis Hub
Customers gripe, but firm says it is adding shifts and expects service to return to normal by weekend
Lorraine Williams drove 45 minutes to Atlanta’s airport on the night of Feb. 22 and paid $136 to FedEx Corp. FDX -0.32% to make sure her package would get to New Orleans in two days. It took more than a week to arrive.
FedEx is struggling with significant delays in delivering packages long after mid-February winter storms sent many parts of the country into a deep freeze, including the delivery company’s Memphis, Tenn., hub. Last week, about one- quarter of FedEx Express shipments didn’t arrive on time, according to ShipMatrix, which tracks the industry.
FedEx said it has been adding shifts and staff to catch up with the backlog and expects service levels to return to normal by the end of the week. “We are working as quickly as possible to deliver customer packages that have been delayed by this national service disruption,” a spokeswoman said. “We deeply regret the impact this has had on our customers, and we are working with them to resolve any delivery issues.” …
… Last week, Feb. 21 to Feb. 27, FedEx Express had on-time delivery of about 76%, an improvement from the prior week, while UPS Express was at 96%, according to ShipMatrix, a software provider that analyzes shipping data. The FedEx Ground service, which handles many e-commerce orders, was less disrupted.
Satish Jindel, president of ShipMatrix, said some of the difference is FedEx’s greater reliance on airplanes compared with UPS, which mixes its express packages with its ground delivery network. “When you get backed up, it takes a while to catch up,” he said, referring to backlogs in general. “While you are trying to dig out, the new packages keep coming.” …
… Customers just want to see the FedEx truck arrive at their door. David Lavelle, a retiree in Venice, Fla., has been looking for his $3,000 custom-built guitar from Japan since Feb. 22.
On the day of its expected arrival, he stayed home to sign for the package. Instead, he got a message saying it was delayed. Since then, he said he has watched it get transferred multiple times between Memphis and Indianapolis, but not yet to his doorstep.
“I have no idea where it has been or where it is now,” Mr. Lavelle said.
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Manasseh was only nine years old when he came to the throne, but it is recorded that he filled Jerusalem with innocent blood. But Manasseh himself repented, and was forgiven by God – I had a fleeting idea that it might have been his words in Janice’s question, but remembered that although the Bible mentions the prayer that he prayed as being in another historical record, it is not recorded in the Old Testament canon. But although Manasseh himself was forgiven, the consequences of his sin remained, and Jerusalem’s fall to Babylon during the reigns of Mannaseh’s great grandsons and great-great grandson was in payment for the innocent blood shed during Manasseh”s years of wickedness.
I once tracked that marked its last location as being Montreal, Quebec, which, as the place of origin was in Ontario, was completely off course. I decided to contact the sender since clearly something had gone wrong. But before they got back to me, the package was delivered the next day. I could only conclude that the computer had mistaken another package in Montreal as being mine.
I made good progress today on my 1-year retrospective look at how the ports made it through (mostly now, we think/hope) the coronavirus pandemic. Interviewed one port director and the union rep today, another phone interview set up with the other port director tomorrow; but most of this comes out of the significant stack (when printed out) of stories I’ve done through the past year chronicling the cargo volumes and the struggle to keep the ports open through both a desperate dry spell (early in 2020) and then an unexpected and massive surge in cargo that hit in late summer and hasn’t stopped yet.
Only downside is the cruise line I contacted wasn’t very helpful in their response.
Today’s news release: COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalizations Decline; Public Health Planning for Additional School Re-openings and Increases Access to Vaccine
(116 New Deaths and 1,759 New Confirmed Cases of COVID-19 in Los Angeles County)
We got a surprise call to come in and get our Covid vaccines today. So we have had our first shot. We feel fine. We met a couple we haven’t seen in well over a year and were able to exchange a few words. They were going into the observation area as we were leaving. The man had Covid in December and spent 3 weeks in intensive care. They were very glad to be getting the vaccine.
Our area must have gotten an abundance of the vaccine, since we also got a text from one of my husband’s music partners offering a phone number to call if we wanted an appointment. Everyone in the group now has the first shot. Light at the end of the tunnel seems to be in sight. I sure hope it is.
NancyJill @ %:06 PM,
Our daughter was living in Rhode Island. We somehow or other found out and got her phone number and address. My wife flew to Rhode Island and called her. As they talked my wife knocked on the door until our daughter answered it. What a surprise when she opened it and there was my wife, her adopted mother. Neither of us heard any complaints about this “trick.”
she lives with us now. I will ask about her thoughts when next I see her.
Good morning everyone.
I just came over from yesterday’s thread.
(Don’t bother. I didn’t say anything, like now.)
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Good morning.
Jo, I have. Cool! Which is why we need to be praying for our brothers and sisters. We never know how God is going to place them and put them to use.
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Good morning, Chas. I was lifting you in prayer a bit earlier. I know these days are difficult. I hope you are able to feel comforted by the Lord. I think some people tend to push away God when they are angry about their losses. I don’t think of you as being that way.
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I found my password so now I can comment on the thread that show the header! Look at that cute Kitty♡ Adorable! ♡
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My Bible memory verse for today:
“Indeed it was for my own benefit that I had such great bitterness, but Your love delivered me from the Pit of Destruction for You have thrown all my sins behind Your back.”
Bible Trivia question: Who said that? (Don’t look it up. Just post if you know the answer.)
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Sounds like David in his Psalms.
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Not David.
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I saw an interesting little historical clip yesterday about the woman who developed the first effective treatment for leprosy – read about her here: https://www.biography.com/scientist/alice-ball
But the clip also mentioned the lifetime social isolation that was the fate of lepers before a cure was found, and it got me thinking about how that must have been for them. Leviticus 13:45-46: “The person afflicted with an infectious skin disease is to have his clothes torn and his hair hanging loose, and he must cover his mouth and cry out, ‘Unclean, unclean!’ He will remain unclean as long as he has the infection; he is unclean. He must live alone in a place outside the camp.” Masking and lifelong social isolation was the fate of lepers.
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Good morning! Small group was a sweet time of fellowship and prayer…and food…I fed 12 people…I was exhausted…but I awakened at 3 this morning…it’s going to be a day! 💤
Now I am off to meet a friend for breakfast then we are going to walk around the antique mall. We should be walking out on the trail but the mud is just too much for us to deal with! 😊
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I was thinking David, too. I will guess Joseph?
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Oh, and those cats look very contented.
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Well, can’t be Jesus and if not David or Joseph, how about….Solomon….I mean Jeremiah! no,no, Isaiah, no I meant Stephen….umm….
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Job?
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New dishwasher arrived yesterday, Mr. Engineer installed it, and now it’s begging to be hooked up to the Internet so it can talk to the washing machine.
Honestly.
Jeremiah.
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Michelle, can your washing machine talk? Or is it not a ‘smart’ machine? Our washing machine is newer, but not ‘smart’, but even if it was, there would be nothing to talk to, as there is no dishwasher and no dryer.
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My washer/dryer just sweetly and musically ding-ding-ding.
My old ones had the most annoyingly loud BUZZZZZ when a load was finished.
I’ve fallen out of using the dishwasher all that much during this pandemic, for some reason; I need to get back to it before it dies of lack of use!
Sweet kitties, they look like they are no trouble, ever, at all.
My cat is about to shove some utensils off the kitchen island, on the other hand. She be hungry.
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It’s a rain day here in LA, a rare and joyous occurrence for us. I’m hoping we get enough to wash my car off; downside of cars in dark colors is they really do show the “dust” and dirt quickly.
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All the machines think they are smarter than I am–and they like to flaunt it.
I’m currently ignoring the dishwasher because I need to put away $350 worth of groceries before actually doing some work.
Oh, well, maybe I’ll walk to the library instead . . .
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Curiosity overcame me and I looked up Janice’s question. None of us so far has been on the right track.
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The rainfall here is light so far, but we are getting some thunder. Sweet.
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Janice’s question: then it has to be Naomi.
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The sunshine here is bright, reflecting off the not quite melting yet snow.
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Very dark here today, our solar panels won’t be recharging
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Here’s a question of the day. You have a twelve-year-old daughter. Her diary is on the kitchen counter. Under what circumstances is it OK to read it?
You can come up with your own answer, but for simplicity I will suggest a few options:
(1) It’s your house, your kid, in a public area, and it’s OK to read it.
(2) It’s your house, your kid, and even if it’s in a drawer in her bedroom it’s OK to read it.
(3) It’s OK to read it if you have made clear that anything in this house is under your authority and you have the right to read it or look inside it at any time. (No expectation of privacy.)
(4) It’s OK to read it if you have very strong reason to be concerned, for instance reason to believe that several in her peer group have begun taking drugs.
(5) It’s OK to read it if you cannot reach her and you are afraid she has run away or been kidnaped.
(6) It’s never OK to read it, unless she has given you permission or she has died.
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5) for the investigators looking for clues as to her whereabouts (even patient confidentiality can be overridden in criminal investigations). Otherwise, 6.
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I thought of Naomi for Janice’s QoD, but I couldn’t remember her singing a Psalm. Now I do, at the end of the book of Ruth.
Or maybe it is another of the Psalmists: Asaph, or Ethan, or Moses. Although I really do not think it is Ethan’s or Moses’s style, and not quite like Asaph either. Naomi is a good possibility.
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I thought of her because, didn’t she call herself “Bitter”?
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Cheryl, I tell them 3 but only follow through with four or five, if I see a significant personality change that could indicate danger to them or family. There are many more dangers than drugs. Internet danger, sex abuse, alcohol abuse, suicidal thoughts, self harm all come to mind.
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I’m with Mumsee. I would communicate no guarantee of privacy, but would not exercise my freedom except in 4 and 5.
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Regarding Janice’s Bible Trivia question, still none of the above.
Another question. Is there such a thing as “Bible trivia”?
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Kevin B, Bible trivia is a misnomer. Maybe I should have called it a Bible stumper? Should I give any clues, give the answer, or wait to see if anyone else can think of who said those words?
For Cheryl’s question,I think the people who live in a household would know each other’s personalities well enough to know whether or not what they left out in public view would be kept private. That was never an issue I had to deal with. I can’t say for certain what I would do if presented with the opportunity. I do know that from working in a tax office that there are many opportunities to satisfy curiosity if someone is so inclined. I was always curious about occupations somewhat like a matching game . . . does that person look like a teacher, a truck driver, a sales clerk, etc? But, when you have to deal with so many people, it sort of dulls the desire to know personal details.
Once I was rather shocked to find that my mother had pulled a piece of trash from my bedroom garbage can and confronted me with it when I was middle school age. A girlfriend who was more knowledgeable of the world than I had written something on a note she had passed to me that may have been like a scene from a soap opera. The girl’s name was Shelly. I remember that much. I don’t remember what I said in defense, but I do remember thinking my assumed privacy was not what I thought it was.
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What is your answer, Cheryl, to your question?
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I went to Publix after Bible study. I spent $130+ and thought of how much Michelle spends. Then I read her post above! It was a lot for me to spend today especially considering I don’t buy meat. We still eat eggs and occasionally salmon. I had to buy a large box of cat litter so that was my most expensive purchase of the day.
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Janice, how long will you keep them in suspense? I’m enjoying seeing their guesses.
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For our first four children, it was a given that dad could leave his wallet wherever he put it and, though they might be able to tell him where it was, they would not be able to say what was in it because it was not theirs. That transferred to each other’s stuff.
We had a long hard slog with the next group. I remember when one son was shocked when we stopped by the public school and he saw that people just left their backpacks in a line out on the sidewalk for various activities. “Don’t they steal stuff??” No. That changed when he started attending school.
We did not feel the need to check the older’s stuff but definitely with some (not all) of the youngers, and with good reason. But they knew it so would often leave things they wanted us to notice. Like the preg testing kit, whiskey, marijuana, killing messages, etc. We probably should have checked the others more.
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Janice, the problem is that I am most familiar with the Bible passages in the language of the KJV. Since your verse is in a more modern translation, I’m trying to ‘translate’ how it would sound in the KJV. Now I’m wondering if the words of Paul on his hardships would sound like that in a modern translation.
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Then again, Paul wasn’t usually directly addressing God during those descriptions (only in Romans 7, and that wouldn’t fit).
It has been a fun conundrum to ponder while I have been waiting between appointments. I tried to line up all the appointments I had today so there was enough space between them but not too much. It didn’t quite work out.
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I found part of the Bible verse in the little devotional journal I am finishing up today. It read, “In love you have delivered my life from the pit of destruction, for you have cast all my sins behind your back.” I was looking for a verse to memorize, so I looked it up and found the full verse. I was surprised by who it referred to, but once known it is not surprising.
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I suspect Paul was speaking Greek. Maybe Hebrew or other, but most likely Greek.
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Roscuro, here’s the KJV for you to continue pondering.
Behold, for peace I had great bitterness: but thou hast in love to my soul delivered it from the pit of corruption: for thou hast cast all my sins behind thy back.
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Chas, Greek was the trade language, so he would have used that on his travels and certainly in his writings. He was educated in the liturgical language of Hebrew – he spoke to the lynch mob at the Temple in Hebrew, which made them quieten down long enough to listen. He probably also knew Aramaic, the common language of Palestine, and probably had knowledge of Latin, ad he was able to address the Roman governor Festus fluently.
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Kevin, hmmm, well that certainly isn’t Paul, and no longer sounds like Naomi. It is definitely Hebrew poetry.
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Hannah’s song is very like Mary’s in construction, so I don’t think it is from that.
The prophets frequently spoke in poetry, but Mumsee already guessed Jeremiah. It does sound a bit like something from Habbakuk’s last song.
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I know, I know!!! But I cheated and looked it up so I won’t give it away.
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I have a wild urge to guess Sampson, but I cannot remember him singing poetry.
The other person I had an urge to guess this morning was Israel (Jacob) but the only poetry I can remember him speaking was the prophecy of his son’s tribes. It is that poetic utterance that is my sticking point. While their is more song in the Bible than just the Psalms, not everyone is recorded as singing.
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Getting warmer, Roscuro. I think if I give the verse in either the New Living Translation or the International Children’s Version (or is it Bible) that it would be clearer and more easily guessed or known. Are you ready for that?
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Another bitter person was Miriam (so was Job’s wife, apparently) and she sang but did she ever become grateful for her sins being cast away?
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Well, I’m not sure if it would help me, but let’s give it a try.
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And Deborah
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Abigail?
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Mumsee, I eliminated Deborah because hers and Barak’s song was one of triumph and victory, and Miriam’s son is extremely short, just about the horse and his rider being cast into the sea.
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The widow with the sons and the overflowing oil?
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Leah? Her sister? When they were blessed with children? When Leah realized she was loved by God?
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Could be me but I don’t believe I am quoted in the Bible anywhere.
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Yes, this anguish was good for me, for you have rescued me from death and forgiven all my sins. (NLT)
I have another clue if this is not enough.
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Another clue: Although the verse is not from the Psalms the writer is sometimes associated with the Psalms.
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Elijah?
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From the ICB
It was for my own good
that I had such troubles.
Because you love me very much,
you did not let me die.
You threw my sins
far away
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Whoops, didn’t see Janice’s last post.
Well, David wrote poetry in other places than in Psalms. But you definitely said not David.
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I need to charge my phone now so will be away for a bit.
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A lovely breakfast with a dear friend…then onto the antique mall…we had such fun. I feel the need to take a nap now 😊
Cheryl’s QOD…4 and 5….I was in such a position with one of my children. Her journal was not on the kitchen counter but in her room. Her bizarre behavior and phone calls from unknown parents of unknown friends, from the youth pastor, the school principal, teachers, information from friend’s sightings of her in town without our knowledge…that was enough for me to clean her room. This lead to doctor visits, counseling, and eventually after much prayer, sending her to a Christian ranch for girls for her last year of high school. We needed her to be safe and alive and that was the only avenue we could see taking to accomplish that goal. She never was angry for my reading of her journal. She could not explain the lies and false fantasies of her words written. And all these years later she is alive but we have no relationship with her…. 😞
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Ethan and Asaph are not quoted outside the Psalms. Moses is.
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There was another associate of Asaph who wrote a Psalm, but once again, he isn’t quoted outside the Psalms. The only other author I can recall of a Psalm is completely anonymous:
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More clues: Psalms with questionable authorship, but sometimes attributed to this man. The quoted verse is from the book of Isaiah.
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Does Kevin or Kare have any other clues to give?
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Final clue:
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Hezekiah!
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I did not realize that Cher would be so scantily dressed in that video from way back then. Nothing new under the sun. I should have put only the song title as the clue.
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Um, Janice…..
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I couldn’t see the link anyway Janice. Just mentioning it being in the book of Isaiah (and clearly not Isaiah himself), made me remember Hezekiah’s prayer.
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Janice, your 5:43 was exactly the two clues I would have suggested. I had no others in mind. For me the Psalms clue would have been a complete red herring, since I’d never heard that authorship theory.
Roscuro, nice work. Was it the two clues, or was it the song title that did it for you?
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And I see that before I asked Roscuro has answered!
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I did not get very far into that video. How did Hezekiah come out of that?
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Without going into great detail, I’m editing someone who spoke of a preteen leaving a diary on the counter, and her parents reading it and confronting her because she used bad words in it and a couple of other things. And she speaks of the girl betraying them because she was being a bad daughter in what she wrote in her diary. I was just wanting a bit of a cross-section of public opinion that I’m correct in the idea that parents don’t read a diary just “because it’s there,” that they need to have good reason to do so. In my own personal opinion, any betrayal goes the other way, that you only read your child’s mail or diary if you’re beginning to suspect her teacher is seducing her or her best friend if offering her drugs, or some other behavior that is a serious threat to her and to your family. Just as the interest of public safety sometimes includes knocking someone to the ground, it sometimes includes reading someone’s diary or mail–but you don’t do it “just because.”
I do think that children need to understand that the house is their parents’ house and they are under parental authority. It’s wise parents who wait to give their children internet access and who keep it public. And keeping communication open is a good thing. But the idea that minors can’t have any private thoughts or alone space isn’t good. And many a preteen or teen girl has said things in her diary that she doesn’t quite mean as she works out her thoughts and feelings.
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It’s just the title, “If I Could Turn Back Time”. Like the shadow on Hezekiah’s steps.
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That was 75, by the way.
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What they write in their journals is never a reflection on the family, it is their thoughts and feelings. It may include wrong activity of the parents but people are entitled to their thoughts and just because a child thinks she has the worst parent on the planet does not make it so.
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What was seventy five and who could possible care if it was? What a juvenile comment…
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Mumsee, Isaiah 38:7-8
“This is the sign to you from the LORD, that the LORD will do this thing that he has promised: See, I will make the shadow cast by the decking sun on the dial of Ahaz turn back ten steps. So the sun turned back on the dial the ten steps by which it had declined.” NRSV
God turned back time.
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decking=declining
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The association with the Psalms was a red herring for me too, Kevin, as I have never heard Hezekiah theorized as having authored any.
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I think I first heard of Hezekiah associated with the Psalms a number of years back when I heard Chuck Swindoll speak about it on his radio program.
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https://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/library/sermon/id/2978/psalms-book-five-part-two-psalms-ascents.htm
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I don’t understand none of this
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And didn’t he have that son a few years later that turned out to be a real jerk? Though I think he may have come around at the end but was considered an evil king. Mannaseh?
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If you read in the linked sermon, it explains about verse 38:20 being the clue that Hezekiah was likely the author of those Psalms. It is pretty fascinating to think about if you have never heard about it before. I obviously had not forgotten about hearing of it probably fifteen or so years ago from Chuck Swindoll’s message.
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CBD update: I know you have all been waiting for this. Surprisingly, the first package that arrived in NJ on the 23rd of February and again on the 28th, is still in transit and expected to be late. It was scheduled to arrive today.
The other, scheduled for Thursday, left Cicero Illlinois and went to Berwyn, Illinois. Apparently, Illinois is a very large state because it was there for four days. Maybe poorly run and needs a project organizer or some such thing. We will see how the remaining states do. It will hardly have time to pass us by at this rate.
Back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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Chas, you may enjoy reading that sermon. It goes into Hezekiah asking for the extension of his life partly so he could have an heir and share his faith, etc., with the younger family members. That is such an important thing to do, especially these days.
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CBD and Mumsee’s packages=Ships passing in the night
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I tracked a package this morning that was due to arrive tomorrow, but it arrived today. It was in Northern California just this morning.
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Mumsee: “And didn’t he have that son a few years later that turned out to be a real jerk?”
“Jerk” being the biblical term
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Husband tracked a package that left Salina KS two weeks ago..,no one knows where it is. It was first shipped from Hayes KS! Good ol’ Fed Ex!
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Wow, look at that Cher video
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From WSJ:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fedex-delivery-delays-stretch-for-weeks-after-storm-hits-memphis-hub-11614795749?mod=hp_lead_pos11
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FedEx Delivery Delays Stretch for Weeks After Storms Hit Memphis Hub
Customers gripe, but firm says it is adding shifts and expects service to return to normal by weekend
Lorraine Williams drove 45 minutes to Atlanta’s airport on the night of Feb. 22 and paid $136 to FedEx Corp. FDX -0.32% to make sure her package would get to New Orleans in two days. It took more than a week to arrive.
FedEx is struggling with significant delays in delivering packages long after mid-February winter storms sent many parts of the country into a deep freeze, including the delivery company’s Memphis, Tenn., hub. Last week, about one- quarter of FedEx Express shipments didn’t arrive on time, according to ShipMatrix, which tracks the industry.
FedEx said it has been adding shifts and staff to catch up with the backlog and expects service levels to return to normal by the end of the week. “We are working as quickly as possible to deliver customer packages that have been delayed by this national service disruption,” a spokeswoman said. “We deeply regret the impact this has had on our customers, and we are working with them to resolve any delivery issues.” …
… Last week, Feb. 21 to Feb. 27, FedEx Express had on-time delivery of about 76%, an improvement from the prior week, while UPS Express was at 96%, according to ShipMatrix, a software provider that analyzes shipping data. The FedEx Ground service, which handles many e-commerce orders, was less disrupted.
Satish Jindel, president of ShipMatrix, said some of the difference is FedEx’s greater reliance on airplanes compared with UPS, which mixes its express packages with its ground delivery network. “When you get backed up, it takes a while to catch up,” he said, referring to backlogs in general. “While you are trying to dig out, the new packages keep coming.” …
… Customers just want to see the FedEx truck arrive at their door. David Lavelle, a retiree in Venice, Fla., has been looking for his $3,000 custom-built guitar from Japan since Feb. 22.
On the day of its expected arrival, he stayed home to sign for the package. Instead, he got a message saying it was delayed. Since then, he said he has watched it get transferred multiple times between Memphis and Indianapolis, but not yet to his doorstep.
“I have no idea where it has been or where it is now,” Mr. Lavelle said.
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Manasseh was only nine years old when he came to the throne, but it is recorded that he filled Jerusalem with innocent blood. But Manasseh himself repented, and was forgiven by God – I had a fleeting idea that it might have been his words in Janice’s question, but remembered that although the Bible mentions the prayer that he prayed as being in another historical record, it is not recorded in the Old Testament canon. But although Manasseh himself was forgiven, the consequences of his sin remained, and Jerusalem’s fall to Babylon during the reigns of Mannaseh’s great grandsons and great-great grandson was in payment for the innocent blood shed during Manasseh”s years of wickedness.
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Someone here may enjoy this free program. This group is pretty intellectual in their programming. I think maybe it was Kathaleena who knows of this organization?
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?e=23f7f2d4c0&u=2160391a9110e67102b3d5d3a&id=30be4ed0df
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I once tracked that marked its last location as being Montreal, Quebec, which, as the place of origin was in Ontario, was completely off course. I decided to contact the sender since clearly something had gone wrong. But before they got back to me, the package was delivered the next day. I could only conclude that the computer had mistaken another package in Montreal as being mine.
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DJ, 6:59: yes, of course. I think. Maybe.
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it is only morning recess, how did you get to 98?
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so who has 100 as my comment did not show up????
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You did.
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I made good progress today on my 1-year retrospective look at how the ports made it through (mostly now, we think/hope) the coronavirus pandemic. Interviewed one port director and the union rep today, another phone interview set up with the other port director tomorrow; but most of this comes out of the significant stack (when printed out) of stories I’ve done through the past year chronicling the cargo volumes and the struggle to keep the ports open through both a desperate dry spell (early in 2020) and then an unexpected and massive surge in cargo that hit in late summer and hasn’t stopped yet.
Only downside is the cruise line I contacted wasn’t very helpful in their response.
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Looks to me like Jo got 100????
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That was me. So? I get 101 @ 102.
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Chas, you’re 104
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Janice made us play a thinking game.
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Woo-hoo
Today’s news release: COVID-19 Cases and Hospitalizations Decline; Public Health Planning for Additional School Re-openings and Increases Access to Vaccine
(116 New Deaths and 1,759 New Confirmed Cases of COVID-19 in Los Angeles County)
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No, Janice, I don’t know that organization.
We got a surprise call to come in and get our Covid vaccines today. So we have had our first shot. We feel fine. We met a couple we haven’t seen in well over a year and were able to exchange a few words. They were going into the observation area as we were leaving. The man had Covid in December and spent 3 weeks in intensive care. They were very glad to be getting the vaccine.
Our area must have gotten an abundance of the vaccine, since we also got a text from one of my husband’s music partners offering a phone number to call if we wanted an appointment. Everyone in the group now has the first shot. Light at the end of the tunnel seems to be in sight. I sure hope it is.
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Word today that our province is looking to have everyone vaccinated by the end of June. Which means summer camp could run!!!
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Kathaleena, I thought you had mentioned reading a book by Dr. Jefrey Breshears who is the founder of the Aeropagus.
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Good morning all.
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NancyJill @ %:06 PM,
Our daughter was living in Rhode Island. We somehow or other found out and got her phone number and address. My wife flew to Rhode Island and called her. As they talked my wife knocked on the door until our daughter answered it. What a surprise when she opened it and there was my wife, her adopted mother. Neither of us heard any complaints about this “trick.”
she lives with us now. I will ask about her thoughts when next I see her.
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