¹Judge me, O God, and plead my cause against an ungodly nation: O deliver me from the deceitful and unjust man.
2 For thou art the God of my strength: why dost thou cast me off? why go I mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?
3 O send out thy light and thy truth: let them lead me; let them bring me unto thy holy hill, and to thy tabernacles.
4 Then will I go unto the altar of God, unto God my exceeding joy: yea, upon the harp will I praise thee, O God my God.
5 Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted within me? hope in God: for I shall yet praise him, who is the health of my countenance, and my God.
Talked with a family member yesterday and my Uncle Frank is coming along post hip replacement but is still bleeding and in a lot of pain. Thanks for your prayers.
Relative also told me B, whom I had asked you to pray for several months ago about a thyroid condition, set aside her Christian Scientist beliefs and began taking the meds. She’s feeling and looking much better now. Let’s keep praying the Holy Spirit can now begin to work on her soul.
We picked up the meds for daughter yesterday. I am looking at the long list of side effects and potential risk and cannot say her behavior is so bad as to warrant that. Wisdom.
But also remember that the side effects they list are usually just possible side effects, & they have to list everything that might happen. (Of course, I write this in a general sense, since I don’t know how likely those side effects you mention are, or how severe they could be.)
Yes, but a lot of the side effects are what she is already dealing with. We don’t want to emphasize threats to hurt oneself, anxiety, depression, etc. Nor do we want to stifle her creativity or her joy. We just want to stop her few days of outrageous behavior.
Mumsee, as someone who has taken anti depressants in the past…If your child had diabetes would you withhold insulin. Look at Michelle’s above about the relative who would not take thyroid meds and the changes since she has…
I read all the side effects of anti depressants before I took them. I told the people closest to me what I was doing and to please step in if I started acting strangely. Give the meds a chance. They may may no difference, they may make a negative difference but they may change her life for the better.
They also are not tested for children. The folks who know say that children have a higher incidence of suicide and suicidal thoughts on them than off. She is not depressed, she is scared. She is emotionally disturbed. I have always said there was a place for meds, just not sure it is in a fifteen year old. The doc was not convinced either, just grasping at straws at this time. We do not know what these drugs do to the forming brain. Scary.
My son got hit on his bicycle by a woman talking on her phone. He’s apparently fine, but this mama would have prefered him being seen by a doctor. You can’t do much with an adult, nor his father either. Pray the woman–who was talking on her phone–learned a lesson and that my son doesn’t have to pay for it. 😦
I hope he is ok, michelle. I probably should have gone for some x-rays after my accident. I felt ok at the time, though, and just didn’t want to bother. (nor did my husband)
Mumsee–praying you make the right decision for her (and for her, of course). Those drugs are so powerful and so many seem to make things worse, yet can be a lifesaver. Difficult, indeed.
Mumsee: I first started taking an anti-depressant at 26. It was not a good experience as I was in a small percentage of folks who have nausea and vomiting from SSRIs. However, at 28 I started on an atypical antidepressant and tolerated it much better. It gave me my life back. I will be praying for y’all .
I often wonder how different my adolescence might have been had I been medicated. It was truly a struggle to survive from about age 14 to 28– a long time to feel intense feelings of worthlessness….but my parents don’t believe in psychiatry–they think all mental illness stems from unresolved sin with God…..there are five kids in my family–four of us are medicated–much to the world’s benefit.
Ann, and we wonder how much of the damage to our children is from being on really strong psychotic meds from age six. I think her mood swings are more hormonal than anything. And I think she is right, she can control them but in the past, before living here, screaming was her way of communication and it got her what she wanted. She rarely does it anymore, just seems to be around her periods, which are rare. She is not depressed. She is happy to go about her unique life, drawing amazing pictures, doing schoolwork, free sewing clothing and toys, talking with the animals. But when she is off, she is very off. We have seen depression before in children, but this is not it. But I am the one who suggested meds to the doctor, he tends to think she can control it, as she says. I certainly don’t want her to be miserable, and I expect meds are in her future, just not sure now is the time.
Mumsee: I don’t mean that my experience is equivalent to your daughter’s, nor that the treatment should be the same. I only wanted to express that I have been helped immensely by psychotropic medication, as have three of my siblings. I do realize there are potentially dangerous side effects to many of these drugs–but I honestly can’t function without them. I’ve admitted before to being diagnosed as Bipolar II around age 28, but I wouldn’t accept that diagnosis until four separate psychiatrists came to the same conclusion. I now take both a low dose antidepressant and an anti-psychotic, which works as a mood stabilizer. The combination of the two meds has helped me function more normally in society. I’ve been on the same meds for almost ten years now, with very few side effects other than about a ten pound weight gain.
Both of my daughters have been diagnosed with ADD. We have struggled with whether to medicate or not. Lindsey was able to learn tools to manage ADD without meds, but we have just decided to try a med with Becca, whose symptoms are much more severe. I have researched the medication thoroughly and know what to watch for. So far, she’s taken it three days (she only takes it on school days, though the first time she had it it was a Saturday so we could watch for any negative effects) and has tolerated it very well. She claims there is no difference on or off the med–but that Saturday, she was much more focused and had much better follow-through than she normally does.
Both of my daughters have also been diagnosed with anxiety with panic disorder. So far, we haven’t medicated for this…though it may be necessary at some point. Anxiety disorders run rampant on both sides of the family, so they come by it honestly.
I tell you this because I want you to know I truly am praying for wisdom for all involved and for a happy outcome. I know this must be hard.
Ann, And I very much appreciate your input. We don’t anticipate her ever being independent but we want her to grow as much as she can before we do anything to stifle that. But it is also possible that antianxiety drugs will help her reach a higher plateau. Currently, I spend lots of time talking with her and trying to help her see where she is perhaps mixing what happened in the past with what is happening now. When she prepared to go with husband and other fifteen year old to town yesterday, she asked if she would be coming back. That is a scary place for her to be. I reassured her that she would be and we love her and this is her home, and off she went for a delightful afternoon of shopping.
Son is fine, thank you. Bike was repaired and he’s off cheering for the Seahawks with his brothers, no doubt commiserating on their Mama Bear mother . . .
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Talked with a family member yesterday and my Uncle Frank is coming along post hip replacement but is still bleeding and in a lot of pain. Thanks for your prayers.
Relative also told me B, whom I had asked you to pray for several months ago about a thyroid condition, set aside her Christian Scientist beliefs and began taking the meds. She’s feeling and looking much better now. Let’s keep praying the Holy Spirit can now begin to work on her soul.
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Amen,
We picked up the meds for daughter yesterday. I am looking at the long list of side effects and potential risk and cannot say her behavior is so bad as to warrant that. Wisdom.
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But also remember that the side effects they list are usually just possible side effects, & they have to list everything that might happen. (Of course, I write this in a general sense, since I don’t know how likely those side effects you mention are, or how severe they could be.)
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Yes, but a lot of the side effects are what she is already dealing with. We don’t want to emphasize threats to hurt oneself, anxiety, depression, etc. Nor do we want to stifle her creativity or her joy. We just want to stop her few days of outrageous behavior.
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Mumsee, as someone who has taken anti depressants in the past…If your child had diabetes would you withhold insulin. Look at Michelle’s above about the relative who would not take thyroid meds and the changes since she has…
I read all the side effects of anti depressants before I took them. I told the people closest to me what I was doing and to please step in if I started acting strangely. Give the meds a chance. They may may no difference, they may make a negative difference but they may change her life for the better.
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They also are not tested for children. The folks who know say that children have a higher incidence of suicide and suicidal thoughts on them than off. She is not depressed, she is scared. She is emotionally disturbed. I have always said there was a place for meds, just not sure it is in a fifteen year old. The doc was not convinced either, just grasping at straws at this time. We do not know what these drugs do to the forming brain. Scary.
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Scary, indeed.
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My son got hit on his bicycle by a woman talking on her phone. He’s apparently fine, but this mama would have prefered him being seen by a doctor. You can’t do much with an adult, nor his father either. Pray the woman–who was talking on her phone–learned a lesson and that my son doesn’t have to pay for it. 😦
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I hope he is ok, michelle. I probably should have gone for some x-rays after my accident. I felt ok at the time, though, and just didn’t want to bother. (nor did my husband)
Mumsee–praying you make the right decision for her (and for her, of course). Those drugs are so powerful and so many seem to make things worse, yet can be a lifesaver. Difficult, indeed.
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Mumsee: I first started taking an anti-depressant at 26. It was not a good experience as I was in a small percentage of folks who have nausea and vomiting from SSRIs. However, at 28 I started on an atypical antidepressant and tolerated it much better. It gave me my life back. I will be praying for y’all .
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I often wonder how different my adolescence might have been had I been medicated. It was truly a struggle to survive from about age 14 to 28– a long time to feel intense feelings of worthlessness….but my parents don’t believe in psychiatry–they think all mental illness stems from unresolved sin with God…..there are five kids in my family–four of us are medicated–much to the world’s benefit.
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Ann, and we wonder how much of the damage to our children is from being on really strong psychotic meds from age six. I think her mood swings are more hormonal than anything. And I think she is right, she can control them but in the past, before living here, screaming was her way of communication and it got her what she wanted. She rarely does it anymore, just seems to be around her periods, which are rare. She is not depressed. She is happy to go about her unique life, drawing amazing pictures, doing schoolwork, free sewing clothing and toys, talking with the animals. But when she is off, she is very off. We have seen depression before in children, but this is not it. But I am the one who suggested meds to the doctor, he tends to think she can control it, as she says. I certainly don’t want her to be miserable, and I expect meds are in her future, just not sure now is the time.
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Mumsee, I sent you an e-mail with a book recommendation.
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Thanks, Cheryl, got it and am looking into it. I like the idea of a study included. That will help her organize her thoughts.
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Michelle, how is your son. I am sorry this happened.
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Mumsee: I don’t mean that my experience is equivalent to your daughter’s, nor that the treatment should be the same. I only wanted to express that I have been helped immensely by psychotropic medication, as have three of my siblings. I do realize there are potentially dangerous side effects to many of these drugs–but I honestly can’t function without them. I’ve admitted before to being diagnosed as Bipolar II around age 28, but I wouldn’t accept that diagnosis until four separate psychiatrists came to the same conclusion. I now take both a low dose antidepressant and an anti-psychotic, which works as a mood stabilizer. The combination of the two meds has helped me function more normally in society. I’ve been on the same meds for almost ten years now, with very few side effects other than about a ten pound weight gain.
Both of my daughters have been diagnosed with ADD. We have struggled with whether to medicate or not. Lindsey was able to learn tools to manage ADD without meds, but we have just decided to try a med with Becca, whose symptoms are much more severe. I have researched the medication thoroughly and know what to watch for. So far, she’s taken it three days (she only takes it on school days, though the first time she had it it was a Saturday so we could watch for any negative effects) and has tolerated it very well. She claims there is no difference on or off the med–but that Saturday, she was much more focused and had much better follow-through than she normally does.
Both of my daughters have also been diagnosed with anxiety with panic disorder. So far, we haven’t medicated for this…though it may be necessary at some point. Anxiety disorders run rampant on both sides of the family, so they come by it honestly.
I tell you this because I want you to know I truly am praying for wisdom for all involved and for a happy outcome. I know this must be hard.
Ann
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Ann, And I very much appreciate your input. We don’t anticipate her ever being independent but we want her to grow as much as she can before we do anything to stifle that. But it is also possible that antianxiety drugs will help her reach a higher plateau. Currently, I spend lots of time talking with her and trying to help her see where she is perhaps mixing what happened in the past with what is happening now. When she prepared to go with husband and other fifteen year old to town yesterday, she asked if she would be coming back. That is a scary place for her to be. I reassured her that she would be and we love her and this is her home, and off she went for a delightful afternoon of shopping.
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;-( Again. I wish I hadn’t read that.
Can you imagine what goes on in a mind that would think of asking. “Will I be coming back?”
Scary.
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At least you know better how to pray.
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Son is fine, thank you. Bike was repaired and he’s off cheering for the Seahawks with his brothers, no doubt commiserating on their Mama Bear mother . . .
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