“The most important quality in a President and Commander in Chief is steadiness- an absolute, rock solid steadiness.”
Hillary yesterday, looking anything but steady.
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And while pneumonia is not usually contagious, the germs that cause it can still be spread. So if you have it, it’s probably a good idea to not cough all over your hands while speaking, and then hit the handshake lines. Barbara Streisand is probably freaking out right now after spending Friday evening with her. 🙂
It will be very interesting to see if the pneumonia combined with the typical Clinton cover-up makes a difference in the polls.
If I were Clinton, I would rest until I felt good and then operate on a reduced schedule. I would count on Trump, paid ads and the press to do my work. If she goes out before she is well and has another incident, that reflects on her judgment as well as her health.
I am beginning to believe God may desire that Trump become the President, probably for the purposes of isolating the US and making it poorer as I discussed last week.
Ricky @ 8:14. It is such a weird situation that I believe that God may be working in such a way an never before. As I said, the Bible prophesizes cataclysmic events in the middle east that cannot, realistically, happen with the Sixth Fleet in the Mediterranean. It’s a weird situation when we have NO CHOICE. I will vote for Trump.
As I said, he may be a disaster. I KNOW Hillary will be.
I believe that God will either bring this nation to repentance or judgment.
I pray for the safety of my grandkids and great-grands every day.
It’s a wicked world they are entering. Moreso than in 1939.
Chas, So many unusual things have happened to give Trump the nomination that I have to believe God desires for him to win. I don’t believe the end result will be what Trump or the Trumpkins expect. It is certainly wise for you to pray for the little ones. I think the big question is: Does God intend to discipline the US or to destroy it?
Ricky, Don’t count the young people out so fast. My daughter just turned 19. I have listened to her and her friends discussing the election as this is the first time they can vote. Not all of them are towing the party line for Clinton. They see through her. Clinton polls better with older women than you does with anyone under 30.
I think all the piling on against Trump that all the liberal “elite” and even Republicans are doing is back firing on them. If everyone is spending money and throwing 20 mil at a time to help defeat Trump “what is the establishment so afraid of?”
My (ex) mother in law is a “yella dawg Democrat” and SHE is planning to vote for Trump.
As far as Trump listening, he does spend time with Ben Carson. And I think that is a good thing. As mentioned before, prayer that he is surrounded with good and faithful believers, influencing him toward God and a Godly perspective.
For a century or more, the US has stood in the way of evil in the world.
I don’t mean there was no evil, but evil didn’t have it’s way.
We no longer stand in the way of anything.
I was with GW Bush when he invaded Iraq. Now I realize it was a colossal mistake.
Islamic nations need a dictator. A tyrant for a leader. They do not understand democracy and their religion doesn’t permit it.
Sadaam was a bad guy. But he stood in the way of worse.
Our leaders should have known what I now know. In her book “Terrorist Hunter”, anonymous, since outed as Rita Katz, briefed the presidents. Even Clinton.
They should have known. It’s their business.
Now we have people connected to the Brotherhood inside the White House. Hillary will have them too.
As for the pneumonia diagnosis and that awful video that will haunt and follow her from here on out — Clinton will lose valuable time campaigning, of course, but more importantly, the health question is now front and center and she’ll be watched like a hawk. Her best option is to release whatever she can on her health — but it’s probably too little, too late at this stage, people will always suspect more based on her history of non-transparency.
Fact is, both these candidates are up in years so some health issues are more likely than not in the present and near future.
But this incident could really impact the overall campaign at this stage.
And the Invisible Hand that moves behind all of history is both fascinating and fearful to contemplate during times of tumultuous change in a nation like ours.
That’s kind of been my take on this election, Donna. Today’s utmost really nailed it–we do not know what God is doing and it’s premature for us to think He will not intervene in ways that we do not expect. I have no idea what is coming but as a believer, I need to be prepared to seek justice, mercy, loving kindness and pray for my nation.
Kim, It is good to hear that report about BG and her friends.
Chas, I agree with you that the US stood against evil for 100 years. In the 19th century, the British Empire led Christendom and stood against evil (HRW, the anti-colonialist will dispute this when he gets home from school). The baton was passed to the US early in the 20th century. The US has now dropped the baton. In hindsight, I would argue that the baton was dropped as the US completely bungled Middle Eastern policy over the last 13 years. The bungling has been bi-partisan, and also came at a time when the US had begun to promote perversion, abortion and radical feminism around the world.
There is currently a battle between several forces: A surging China, the rest of Asia which is also growing, a decaying US, a decayed Western Europe and various forms of Islam.
I kept thinking all this had a familiar ring to it. It sounds scripted for TV doesn’t it? Well it has been. Jeb Bartlett concealed his diagnosis of MS when he ran for president.
Josiah Edward “Jed” Bartlet, PhD., is a fictional character from the American television serial drama The West Wing, portrayed by Martin Sheen. The role earned Sheen a Golden Globe Award for Best Actor – Television Series Drama in 2001, as well as two SAG Awards.
Bartlet’s tenure as a Democratic President of the United States is a preeminent aspect of the series. His origin as a recurring character evolved due to Sheen’s acting finesse; creator Aaron Sorkin and fellow West Wing writers shaped Bartlet’s role within the show accordingly. The first season depicts part of his first and second years in office and subsequent seasons flesh out the details of his administration, including friction between his policies and those of the Republican-dominated Congress, his tribulations with multiple sclerosis, his reelection, and the campaign of his successor. Characterized by manifest integrity, quick witticisms, a fierce intellect, and compassionate stoicism, Bartlet is widely acclaimed by critics and political commentators alike as the “most popular Democratic president in recent memory.”[1]
“to seek justice, mercy, loving kindness and pray for (our) nation” — that’s a great outline for us in the months to come.
This has been the most unexpected presidential race I’ve seen in my lifetime, no one really could have predicted any of this a year ago (well, Hillary being nominated, probably, but who saw the challenge from Sanders that almost stopped her and essentially altered the direction of the party and Clinton’s political agenda?).
It certainly may be that Hillary has some kind of serious health problem.
Before it came out that she had been diagnosed with pneumonia, much was made of the fact that it wasn’t that hot out, implying that it wasn’t hot enough for her to have gotten overheated. But I’ll tell ya, if I were standing, or even sitting, in the sun wearing a dark blue, long-sleeved suit, I would have overheated.
(I’m not arguing against the idea that she may have a health problem, just pointing out that the overheating issue in itself was not unbelievable.)
On a similar note: One of the videos going around shows Hillary having difficulty getting out of the back seat of a van, implying that her difficulty was due to a neurological condition. But she was scooting over from the other side of the van, & I can tell you from experience that it is not easy to do that & then to exit a van smoothly.
Point being that using every little awkward episode to “prove” a serious condition only weakens the case.
I heard it was 82 degrees with high humidity — which probably would have made me, at the least, really cranky. 🙂
Campaigning just looks like such a grueling exercise to me, I guess I’m surprised the candidates don’t swoon and faint and lose their shoes more often.
The Clinton campaign must now be in crisis mode as they try to figure out how to make this go away (which they can’t because it won’t).
Tim Kaine “ready to become the president” if that ever became necessary, ex-Ohio Gov Ted Strickland says in intro at Dayton Stivers High.
If Tim Kaine became the Democratic nominee, I’ll have to confess that I would give him a serious look. I know nothing about him now. I hear he’s a good man.
Haha, well I guess Clinton’s “deplorables” comment is catching on and being embraced. Now there are “Team Deplorable” and “The Deplorables” T-shirts and mugs up for sale. 🙂
I was thinking that, too, Chas — Kaine would be a much more appealing candidate to many than Clinton. It’s late, but probably not too late for a lateral pass to him. I doubt Clinton will do anything like that unless absolutely necessary, however. But if the health issue can’t be quickly and easily cleared up, there may be a lot of pressure on her from the party to bow out.
Democrats are whispering about possibly having to replace Hillary
… if she has another episode before November, she’s all but done. People can shrug off what happened yesterday on grounds that everyone gets sick now and then but protracted health problems over a span of weeks will be taken as proof that something serious and debilitating is going on behind the scenes.
… Voters aren’t going to gamble on a candidate who seems to be chronically ill. If there’s another fainting episode, Democrats should, and probably will, want her off the ticket. Whether the Clinton machine would permit that is a different story. …
… I don’t buy the theory either that Clinton’s unpopularity somehow neutralizes the concerns about her health because, when push comes to shove, we’d all prefer Tim Kaine to her if given a binary choice. Voters don’t like uncertainty. That may be the single biggest reason that Clinton continues to lead Trump despite having underwhelmed everyone. Trump is a loose cannon whose true political inclinations are murky; no one knows what he’d do if given real power. Clinton is dull, charmless, and corrupt — but predictable. …
(Or maybe Biden?)
… If there’s even a small chance of Hillary dropping out over the next two months, I would think Dems would want her out before the debates two weeks from now. A replacement candidate like Biden would desperately want and need that huge spotlight to (re-)introduce himself to voters. Although, for the same reason, the smart tactical play by Trump in that case would be to skip the debates, insisting that he prepared to face Clinton and that Democrats can’t be allowed to get away with a last-second switcheroo. Either way, Democrats are on the clock. If Hillary’s pneumonia is worse next week instead of better, to the point where she might have to skip the debates herself, they’ll have to think hard.
By the way, the Trump campaign has decided that it’s simply not going to comment on Clinton’s health, which is uncharacteristically restrained — and smart. There’s nothing Trump can say that voters aren’t already thinking about Hillary’s illness; commenting on her “stamina” or whatever will simply hand the media a way to make the story about him instead of her. It’s wise to sit back and let the public draw their own conclusions. ..
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You bunch of light weights. I wore a navy blue dress to the commissioning Saturday. I was outside in the sun and under a tent from 7:45 until a little after 12. It was 88 degrees with 78% humidity. I didn’t even remember a hat. I did drink a lot of water which caused me to have to use a PortaPotty. I am convinced they ship them out disgusting.
“If Tim Kaine became the Democratic nominee, I’ll have to confess that I would give him a serious look. I know nothing about him now. I hear he’s a good man.”
Please do take a look, even if he stays the VP nominee. What you’ll find is yet another hardcore leftist with questionable ties. But by all means, take a look either way.
“According to the media, Tim Kaine took a life transforming “mission” trip to Latin America in 1980. Conveniently left out of these stories, are the radical reality of the Cold War in Latin America and Tim Kaine’s Soviet sympathizing mentors. In fact, whatever Kaine’s intentions, he more likely met Karl Marx than Jesus Christ while there.
Connect the dots with a little history, and an alarming picture emerges of Kaine’s adventures with radicals and revolutionaries in 1980s Latin America.”
“Reports indicate that in Honduras, “Mr. Kaine embraced an interpretation of the gospel, known as liberation theology..”
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“Liberation Theology’s recent second wind has been achieved by disavowing its Marxist roots. Francis’ doctrinal chief Cardinal Mueller is seen as friendly, but stated: “true liberation theology is opposed to Marxism.”
That wasn’t the case in the 1980s. Then, Kaine embraced not some reconstituted, post-Marxist version, but the hardcore, Cold War variety — an avowed Marxist ideology inimical to the institutional Catholic Church and to the United States.”
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“In Virginia he ran as a moderate and ruled as a liberal. Today he runs as a “Pope Francis” Catholic but on abortion and marriage, Kaine opposes Francis.
On the conscience rights of groups like the Little Sisters of the Poor, Kaine sided with Obama. Francis sided with the Little Sisters, whom he visited in Washington a year ago to publicly show his support.
As in the 1980s, Kaine’s “Catholicism” serves neither his Church nor his country, but a Leftist political agenda that has proven to be on the wrong side of the Church, on the wrong side of history, and against the interests of freedom and the United States.”
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As is usually the case with Democrats, he’s not “as advertised.”
Much ado about nothing on the Clinton health debate. She’s not much of a campaigner — but is good at debate. She’s better off resting and let Trump stumble. Although Florida is tiling Trump’s way — and he needs it — the Florida papers are bringing up his own Trump Foundation bribery of the attorney general and Trump U. A straight forward case of bribery which, if Clinton is investigated, then Trump and the attorney general need to be investigated by the Justice Department. Speaking of which, the news cycle is all focused on Clinton’s health — what emails? what charity?
When Tim Kaine was picked as VP running mate, the left was upset as they view him as a corporate stooge much like Clinton — they were hoping for Warren or even Sanders as an appeasement to the left side of the Democratic wing. Meanwhile AJ can find right wing blogs who insist missionary work in Honduras thirty years ago makes you a socialist.
Now if in the remote chance the Democrats pass the baton to Kaine, the left will definitely stay home or vote Green. They will argue Sanders should get the nod as the runner up.
DJ, True story: Airplane was released in 1980, before the election. We saw the movie in a packed house in Arlington, Texas in the middle of a bunch of 20 somethings. There was a joke at Ronald Reagan”s expense in the movie. The audience erupted in boos. It made me feel confident about the election.
Ricky — the British as guardians of Christendom — do I have all night or the energy to respond….. If colonization is to be viewed as part of Christianity, it certainly would damage Christianity’s reputation. The Europeans pillaged the rest of the world for almost 400 years with the after effects still be felt today. Now some British historians argue colonization was inevitable and if you were to have a colonial power, you would be best off with the British.
Comparative history suggests they may be half right but its relative. Although the Spanish spoke of their mission to bring Catholicism to the heathens, they were more interested in gold. In fact, native rebels used to pour melted gold into their Spanish captive’s mouths. To give the Catholic church some due, it was due to some priests ( but not all ) that we learn of the horrible acts of the conquistadors and the Spanish settlers. On the secular side, the Dutch made no pretence to be anything other than a commercial enterprise, exploitation at its worse, and had no problem pissing on the cross to be the only Europeans to trade in Japan. The French talked of bringing secular Enlightenment values to the world yet were responsible for Haiti. The worst of the lot was the Belgian King Leopold who created the heart of darkness along the Congo River. Read some histories of the Belgian Congo, he made the Gheghis Khan look good. The British are not a shining light either — their repression of the Mau Mau in the 1950s coming to light now is a gruesome tale of torture and death. They destroyed the Indian textile industry in order to protect their own. They forced China to buy opium. And to prove they weren’t racists — during the Boer War they put Boer families in concentration camps. Not to mention, their long history of repression in Ireland — during the Irish potato famine, Ireland actually exported corn. Hence, probably worse than the French but better than the Spanish and Belgians (Not to forget Germany’s genocidal activities in what is now Namibia, a training ground for what they would do later in Eastern Europe)
Anglophiles will continue to make the argument that the British not only civilized half the world, they kept the peace, always fought on the “good” side, etc. Read Niall Ferguson for that tripe. I’m a bit of an Anglophile — they did something right if we can judge by the results — prosperity, parliamentary democracy etc. BUT Anglophiles need to be honest — the English speaking world has a far higher rate of teen pregnancy, drug addiction, violent crime and other ills compared to their more secular Enlightenment counterparts of northwest Europe. Perhaps the English speaking world needs to learn something from the western European (German, French, Dutch and Scandinavian) models.
Just as I have preferred dates for movies, TV shows, novels, hymns, etc., I also have preferred dates for kingdoms. I definitely prefer the Victorian period for Great Britain, though I have never quite forgiven the British ruling class for failing to aid my country in the early 1860s. They knew that Lincoln and the Yankees were miscreants supported by their own villains (including Karl Marx). The Queen did choose Confederate Cabinet member Judah Benjamin to serve as her Counselor after The War.
The mention of Judah Benjamin and Great Britain reminds me of the following story from the time that Benjamin was a Senator from Louisiana during the tense years before The War:
One quote from Senate debate that remains “part of the Benjamin legend”, according to Evans, followed an allusion to Moses as a freer of slaves by a Northern senator, hinting that Benjamin was an “Israelite in Egyptian clothing”.[166] Benjamin is supposed to have replied, “It is true that I am a Jew, and when my ancestors were receiving their Ten Commandments from the immediate hand of deity, amidst the thunderings and lightnings of Mount Sinai, the ancestors of my opponent were herding swine in the forests of Great Britain.”[d][166]
One can not read that last quote without picturing the young Benjamin reading Ivanhoe aloud to his sweetheart even as Robert E. Lee read that book (a favorite of antebellum Southerners) to Mary Custis during their courtship. It must have been Sir Walter Scott who taught Benjamin that a great deal of the wealth of the ancient Britons was in swine.
Politically, Clinton’s health is certainly not ‘much ado about nothing.’ The campaign is in a tough spot now with the video on top of the coughing spells — all coupled with Clinton’s penchant for hiding things.
As the one columnist wrote, voters don’t like uncertainty — and this could contribute to that sense surrounding her as a potential president.
I’m not sure how she makes that all go away. She’ll have to flawlessly perform from here on out; no stumbles, no shakiness, no tired looks, no forgetfulness, and no coughing.
When the Clinton campaign says “nothing to see here, folks,” no one seriously believes it, whether it’s true or not. In politics, perception is reality. And she and her campaign look duplictious
DJ, I did have the thought that if either Clinton or Trump could convince the voters that he/she was unlikely to live for four years, it might help the chances that said sickly candidate might get elected. Campaign slogan: Hillary! Just for a little while.
Both vp candidates seem more appealing to me (and maybe to a lot of others). Kaine is a liberal and I would not necessarily find it likely to vote for him; but, again, the choices this year is lousy.
Kaine may be a liberal, though I would agree with HRW that it is unlikely he became a Marxist on a mission trip. However, Kaine is probably to the right of Hillary and Trump depending on what day it is and who has recently complimented Trump.
Wandering Views 
Good news for Trumpkins: He may be listening to someone who has a brain and a sense of decency.
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Nope. No health issues here….
Hillary Clinton 3 days ago….
“The most important quality in a President and Commander in Chief is steadiness- an absolute, rock solid steadiness.”
Hillary yesterday, looking anything but steady.
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And while pneumonia is not usually contagious, the germs that cause it can still be spread. So if you have it, it’s probably a good idea to not cough all over your hands while speaking, and then hit the handshake lines. Barbara Streisand is probably freaking out right now after spending Friday evening with her. 🙂
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It will be very interesting to see if the pneumonia combined with the typical Clinton cover-up makes a difference in the polls.
If I were Clinton, I would rest until I felt good and then operate on a reduced schedule. I would count on Trump, paid ads and the press to do my work. If she goes out before she is well and has another incident, that reflects on her judgment as well as her health.
I am beginning to believe God may desire that Trump become the President, probably for the purposes of isolating the US and making it poorer as I discussed last week.
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The election really boils down to two questions:
1. How many conservatives will hold their noses and vote for Trump?
2. How many young people will hold their noses and vote for Clinton?
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/young-millennials-love-obama-but-clinton-is-struggling-to-win-them-over/?ex_cid=2016-forecast
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Ricky @ 8:14. It is such a weird situation that I believe that God may be working in such a way an never before. As I said, the Bible prophesizes cataclysmic events in the middle east that cannot, realistically, happen with the Sixth Fleet in the Mediterranean. It’s a weird situation when we have NO CHOICE. I will vote for Trump.
As I said, he may be a disaster. I KNOW Hillary will be.
I believe that God will either bring this nation to repentance or judgment.
I pray for the safety of my grandkids and great-grands every day.
It’s a wicked world they are entering. Moreso than in 1939.
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Chas, So many unusual things have happened to give Trump the nomination that I have to believe God desires for him to win. I don’t believe the end result will be what Trump or the Trumpkins expect. It is certainly wise for you to pray for the little ones. I think the big question is: Does God intend to discipline the US or to destroy it?
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rw: Hillary’s judgment has already long ago been reflected on…
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Ricky, Don’t count the young people out so fast. My daughter just turned 19. I have listened to her and her friends discussing the election as this is the first time they can vote. Not all of them are towing the party line for Clinton. They see through her. Clinton polls better with older women than you does with anyone under 30.
I think all the piling on against Trump that all the liberal “elite” and even Republicans are doing is back firing on them. If everyone is spending money and throwing 20 mil at a time to help defeat Trump “what is the establishment so afraid of?”
My (ex) mother in law is a “yella dawg Democrat” and SHE is planning to vote for Trump.
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My eldest is planning to vote for Clinton.
As far as Trump listening, he does spend time with Ben Carson. And I think that is a good thing. As mentioned before, prayer that he is surrounded with good and faithful believers, influencing him toward God and a Godly perspective.
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For a century or more, the US has stood in the way of evil in the world.
I don’t mean there was no evil, but evil didn’t have it’s way.
We no longer stand in the way of anything.
I was with GW Bush when he invaded Iraq. Now I realize it was a colossal mistake.
Islamic nations need a dictator. A tyrant for a leader. They do not understand democracy and their religion doesn’t permit it.
Sadaam was a bad guy. But he stood in the way of worse.
Our leaders should have known what I now know. In her book “Terrorist Hunter”, anonymous, since outed as Rita Katz, briefed the presidents. Even Clinton.
They should have known. It’s their business.
Now we have people connected to the Brotherhood inside the White House. Hillary will have them too.
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As for the pneumonia diagnosis and that awful video that will haunt and follow her from here on out — Clinton will lose valuable time campaigning, of course, but more importantly, the health question is now front and center and she’ll be watched like a hawk. Her best option is to release whatever she can on her health — but it’s probably too little, too late at this stage, people will always suspect more based on her history of non-transparency.
Fact is, both these candidates are up in years so some health issues are more likely than not in the present and near future.
But this incident could really impact the overall campaign at this stage.
And the Invisible Hand that moves behind all of history is both fascinating and fearful to contemplate during times of tumultuous change in a nation like ours.
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That’s kind of been my take on this election, Donna. Today’s utmost really nailed it–we do not know what God is doing and it’s premature for us to think He will not intervene in ways that we do not expect. I have no idea what is coming but as a believer, I need to be prepared to seek justice, mercy, loving kindness and pray for my nation.
http://utmost.org/classic/today/
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Well put, DJ.
Kim, It is good to hear that report about BG and her friends.
Chas, I agree with you that the US stood against evil for 100 years. In the 19th century, the British Empire led Christendom and stood against evil (HRW, the anti-colonialist will dispute this when he gets home from school). The baton was passed to the US early in the 20th century. The US has now dropped the baton. In hindsight, I would argue that the baton was dropped as the US completely bungled Middle Eastern policy over the last 13 years. The bungling has been bi-partisan, and also came at a time when the US had begun to promote perversion, abortion and radical feminism around the world.
There is currently a battle between several forces: A surging China, the rest of Asia which is also growing, a decaying US, a decayed Western Europe and various forms of Islam.
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Anyone notice that in the above video of Hillary she appears more stiff than limp? Everyone I have ever seen faint went limp.
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One of my two favorite Tweeters retweeted the other:
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I kept thinking all this had a familiar ring to it. It sounds scripted for TV doesn’t it? Well it has been. Jeb Bartlett concealed his diagnosis of MS when he ran for president.
Josiah Edward “Jed” Bartlet, PhD., is a fictional character from the American television serial drama The West Wing, portrayed by Martin Sheen. The role earned Sheen a Golden Globe Award for Best Actor – Television Series Drama in 2001, as well as two SAG Awards.
Bartlet’s tenure as a Democratic President of the United States is a preeminent aspect of the series. His origin as a recurring character evolved due to Sheen’s acting finesse; creator Aaron Sorkin and fellow West Wing writers shaped Bartlet’s role within the show accordingly. The first season depicts part of his first and second years in office and subsequent seasons flesh out the details of his administration, including friction between his policies and those of the Republican-dominated Congress, his tribulations with multiple sclerosis, his reelection, and the campaign of his successor. Characterized by manifest integrity, quick witticisms, a fierce intellect, and compassionate stoicism, Bartlet is widely acclaimed by critics and political commentators alike as the “most popular Democratic president in recent memory.”[1]
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“to seek justice, mercy, loving kindness and pray for (our) nation” — that’s a great outline for us in the months to come.
This has been the most unexpected presidential race I’ve seen in my lifetime, no one really could have predicted any of this a year ago (well, Hillary being nominated, probably, but who saw the challenge from Sanders that almost stopped her and essentially altered the direction of the party and Clinton’s political agenda?).
It’s like the nation has been turned upside down.
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It certainly may be that Hillary has some kind of serious health problem.
Before it came out that she had been diagnosed with pneumonia, much was made of the fact that it wasn’t that hot out, implying that it wasn’t hot enough for her to have gotten overheated. But I’ll tell ya, if I were standing, or even sitting, in the sun wearing a dark blue, long-sleeved suit, I would have overheated.
(I’m not arguing against the idea that she may have a health problem, just pointing out that the overheating issue in itself was not unbelievable.)
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On a similar note: One of the videos going around shows Hillary having difficulty getting out of the back seat of a van, implying that her difficulty was due to a neurological condition. But she was scooting over from the other side of the van, & I can tell you from experience that it is not easy to do that & then to exit a van smoothly.
Point being that using every little awkward episode to “prove” a serious condition only weakens the case.
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I heard it was 82 degrees with high humidity — which probably would have made me, at the least, really cranky. 🙂
Campaigning just looks like such a grueling exercise to me, I guess I’m surprised the candidates don’t swoon and faint and lose their shoes more often.
The Clinton campaign must now be in crisis mode as they try to figure out how to make this go away (which they can’t because it won’t).
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From Drudge;
Tim Kaine “ready to become the president” if that ever became necessary, ex-Ohio Gov Ted Strickland says in intro at Dayton Stivers High.
If Tim Kaine became the Democratic nominee, I’ll have to confess that I would give him a serious look. I know nothing about him now. I hear he’s a good man.
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Haha, well I guess Clinton’s “deplorables” comment is catching on and being embraced. Now there are “Team Deplorable” and “The Deplorables” T-shirts and mugs up for sale. 🙂
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/12/clintons-deplorables-gaffe-touches-off-merch-meme-frenzy.html
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I was thinking that, too, Chas — Kaine would be a much more appealing candidate to many than Clinton. It’s late, but probably not too late for a lateral pass to him. I doubt Clinton will do anything like that unless absolutely necessary, however. But if the health issue can’t be quickly and easily cleared up, there may be a lot of pressure on her from the party to bow out.
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http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/12/cokie-roberts-democrats-whispering-possibly-replace-hillary/
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Democrats are whispering about possibly having to replace Hillary
… if she has another episode before November, she’s all but done. People can shrug off what happened yesterday on grounds that everyone gets sick now and then but protracted health problems over a span of weeks will be taken as proof that something serious and debilitating is going on behind the scenes.
… Voters aren’t going to gamble on a candidate who seems to be chronically ill. If there’s another fainting episode, Democrats should, and probably will, want her off the ticket. Whether the Clinton machine would permit that is a different story. …
… I don’t buy the theory either that Clinton’s unpopularity somehow neutralizes the concerns about her health because, when push comes to shove, we’d all prefer Tim Kaine to her if given a binary choice. Voters don’t like uncertainty. That may be the single biggest reason that Clinton continues to lead Trump despite having underwhelmed everyone. Trump is a loose cannon whose true political inclinations are murky; no one knows what he’d do if given real power. Clinton is dull, charmless, and corrupt — but predictable. …
(Or maybe Biden?)
… If there’s even a small chance of Hillary dropping out over the next two months, I would think Dems would want her out before the debates two weeks from now. A replacement candidate like Biden would desperately want and need that huge spotlight to (re-)introduce himself to voters. Although, for the same reason, the smart tactical play by Trump in that case would be to skip the debates, insisting that he prepared to face Clinton and that Democrats can’t be allowed to get away with a last-second switcheroo. Either way, Democrats are on the clock. If Hillary’s pneumonia is worse next week instead of better, to the point where she might have to skip the debates herself, they’ll have to think hard.
By the way, the Trump campaign has decided that it’s simply not going to comment on Clinton’s health, which is uncharacteristically restrained — and smart. There’s nothing Trump can say that voters aren’t already thinking about Hillary’s illness; commenting on her “stamina” or whatever will simply hand the media a way to make the story about him instead of her. It’s wise to sit back and let the public draw their own conclusions. ..
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You bunch of light weights. I wore a navy blue dress to the commissioning Saturday. I was outside in the sun and under a tent from 7:45 until a little after 12. It was 88 degrees with 78% humidity. I didn’t even remember a hat. I did drink a lot of water which caused me to have to use a PortaPotty. I am convinced they ship them out disgusting.
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We don’t “do” humidity in California
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Chas and Donna,
“If Tim Kaine became the Democratic nominee, I’ll have to confess that I would give him a serious look. I know nothing about him now. I hear he’s a good man.”
Please do take a look, even if he stays the VP nominee. What you’ll find is yet another hardcore leftist with questionable ties. But by all means, take a look either way.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/295229-tim-kaines-radical-roots
“According to the media, Tim Kaine took a life transforming “mission” trip to Latin America in 1980. Conveniently left out of these stories, are the radical reality of the Cold War in Latin America and Tim Kaine’s Soviet sympathizing mentors. In fact, whatever Kaine’s intentions, he more likely met Karl Marx than Jesus Christ while there.
Connect the dots with a little history, and an alarming picture emerges of Kaine’s adventures with radicals and revolutionaries in 1980s Latin America.”
“Reports indicate that in Honduras, “Mr. Kaine embraced an interpretation of the gospel, known as liberation theology..”
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“Liberation Theology’s recent second wind has been achieved by disavowing its Marxist roots. Francis’ doctrinal chief Cardinal Mueller is seen as friendly, but stated: “true liberation theology is opposed to Marxism.”
That wasn’t the case in the 1980s. Then, Kaine embraced not some reconstituted, post-Marxist version, but the hardcore, Cold War variety — an avowed Marxist ideology inimical to the institutional Catholic Church and to the United States.”
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“In Virginia he ran as a moderate and ruled as a liberal. Today he runs as a “Pope Francis” Catholic but on abortion and marriage, Kaine opposes Francis.
On the conscience rights of groups like the Little Sisters of the Poor, Kaine sided with Obama. Francis sided with the Little Sisters, whom he visited in Washington a year ago to publicly show his support.
As in the 1980s, Kaine’s “Catholicism” serves neither his Church nor his country, but a Leftist political agenda that has proven to be on the wrong side of the Church, on the wrong side of history, and against the interests of freedom and the United States.”
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As is usually the case with Democrats, he’s not “as advertised.”
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Last week a Trumpkin writer at the Clairmont Institute and Limbaugh argued this is a “Flight 93 election’. A National Review reader responded:
https://twitter.com/rghbaokla/status/774618535901302784
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Tychicus, Kate Upton is also a Thunder fan.
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Of course Ricky would never have seen Airplane. Right? Vintage 1970-something? 🙂
AJ, point taken — but, from what I can tell, he is a vast improvement over Clinton when it comes to character. And that does speak for something.
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And some would argue (character-wise) an improvement over Trump as well.
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Much ado about nothing on the Clinton health debate. She’s not much of a campaigner — but is good at debate. She’s better off resting and let Trump stumble. Although Florida is tiling Trump’s way — and he needs it — the Florida papers are bringing up his own Trump Foundation bribery of the attorney general and Trump U. A straight forward case of bribery which, if Clinton is investigated, then Trump and the attorney general need to be investigated by the Justice Department. Speaking of which, the news cycle is all focused on Clinton’s health — what emails? what charity?
When Tim Kaine was picked as VP running mate, the left was upset as they view him as a corporate stooge much like Clinton — they were hoping for Warren or even Sanders as an appeasement to the left side of the Democratic wing. Meanwhile AJ can find right wing blogs who insist missionary work in Honduras thirty years ago makes you a socialist.
Now if in the remote chance the Democrats pass the baton to Kaine, the left will definitely stay home or vote Green. They will argue Sanders should get the nod as the runner up.
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DJ, True story: Airplane was released in 1980, before the election. We saw the movie in a packed house in Arlington, Texas in the middle of a bunch of 20 somethings. There was a joke at Ronald Reagan”s expense in the movie. The audience erupted in boos. It made me feel confident about the election.
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DJ @ 8:00 True, though anyone other than Hillary or Anthony Weiner would be an improvement (character-wise) over Trump.
Have the rest of you heard the phrase “power through” 172 times today from Hillary and her minions?
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Ricky — the British as guardians of Christendom — do I have all night or the energy to respond….. If colonization is to be viewed as part of Christianity, it certainly would damage Christianity’s reputation. The Europeans pillaged the rest of the world for almost 400 years with the after effects still be felt today. Now some British historians argue colonization was inevitable and if you were to have a colonial power, you would be best off with the British.
Comparative history suggests they may be half right but its relative. Although the Spanish spoke of their mission to bring Catholicism to the heathens, they were more interested in gold. In fact, native rebels used to pour melted gold into their Spanish captive’s mouths. To give the Catholic church some due, it was due to some priests ( but not all ) that we learn of the horrible acts of the conquistadors and the Spanish settlers. On the secular side, the Dutch made no pretence to be anything other than a commercial enterprise, exploitation at its worse, and had no problem pissing on the cross to be the only Europeans to trade in Japan. The French talked of bringing secular Enlightenment values to the world yet were responsible for Haiti. The worst of the lot was the Belgian King Leopold who created the heart of darkness along the Congo River. Read some histories of the Belgian Congo, he made the Gheghis Khan look good. The British are not a shining light either — their repression of the Mau Mau in the 1950s coming to light now is a gruesome tale of torture and death. They destroyed the Indian textile industry in order to protect their own. They forced China to buy opium. And to prove they weren’t racists — during the Boer War they put Boer families in concentration camps. Not to mention, their long history of repression in Ireland — during the Irish potato famine, Ireland actually exported corn. Hence, probably worse than the French but better than the Spanish and Belgians (Not to forget Germany’s genocidal activities in what is now Namibia, a training ground for what they would do later in Eastern Europe)
Anglophiles will continue to make the argument that the British not only civilized half the world, they kept the peace, always fought on the “good” side, etc. Read Niall Ferguson for that tripe. I’m a bit of an Anglophile — they did something right if we can judge by the results — prosperity, parliamentary democracy etc. BUT Anglophiles need to be honest — the English speaking world has a far higher rate of teen pregnancy, drug addiction, violent crime and other ills compared to their more secular Enlightenment counterparts of northwest Europe. Perhaps the English speaking world needs to learn something from the western European (German, French, Dutch and Scandinavian) models.
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One of my fellow Southerners posted this:
https://twitter.com/genealogy123/status/775493674088161280
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Ah yes! The expected rebuttal from HRW.
Just as I have preferred dates for movies, TV shows, novels, hymns, etc., I also have preferred dates for kingdoms. I definitely prefer the Victorian period for Great Britain, though I have never quite forgiven the British ruling class for failing to aid my country in the early 1860s. They knew that Lincoln and the Yankees were miscreants supported by their own villains (including Karl Marx). The Queen did choose Confederate Cabinet member Judah Benjamin to serve as her Counselor after The War.
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The mention of Judah Benjamin and Great Britain reminds me of the following story from the time that Benjamin was a Senator from Louisiana during the tense years before The War:
One quote from Senate debate that remains “part of the Benjamin legend”, according to Evans, followed an allusion to Moses as a freer of slaves by a Northern senator, hinting that Benjamin was an “Israelite in Egyptian clothing”.[166] Benjamin is supposed to have replied, “It is true that I am a Jew, and when my ancestors were receiving their Ten Commandments from the immediate hand of deity, amidst the thunderings and lightnings of Mount Sinai, the ancestors of my opponent were herding swine in the forests of Great Britain.”[d][166]
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One can not read that last quote without picturing the young Benjamin reading Ivanhoe aloud to his sweetheart even as Robert E. Lee read that book (a favorite of antebellum Southerners) to Mary Custis during their courtship. It must have been Sir Walter Scott who taught Benjamin that a great deal of the wealth of the ancient Britons was in swine.
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Politically, Clinton’s health is certainly not ‘much ado about nothing.’ The campaign is in a tough spot now with the video on top of the coughing spells — all coupled with Clinton’s penchant for hiding things.
As the one columnist wrote, voters don’t like uncertainty — and this could contribute to that sense surrounding her as a potential president.
I’m not sure how she makes that all go away. She’ll have to flawlessly perform from here on out; no stumbles, no shakiness, no tired looks, no forgetfulness, and no coughing.
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When the Clinton campaign says “nothing to see here, folks,” no one seriously believes it, whether it’s true or not. In politics, perception is reality. And she and her campaign look duplictious
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DJ, I did have the thought that if either Clinton or Trump could convince the voters that he/she was unlikely to live for four years, it might help the chances that said sickly candidate might get elected. Campaign slogan: Hillary! Just for a little while.
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Both vp candidates seem more appealing to me (and maybe to a lot of others). Kaine is a liberal and I would not necessarily find it likely to vote for him; but, again, the choices this year is lousy.
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are lousy.
Can’t say it enough. 🙂
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Kaine may be a liberal, though I would agree with HRW that it is unlikely he became a Marxist on a mission trip. However, Kaine is probably to the right of Hillary and Trump depending on what day it is and who has recently complimented Trump.
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Who really is the corrupt one;
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/09/05/trumps-history-of-corruption-is-mind-boggling-so-why-is-clinton-supposedly-the-corrupt-one/?postshare=2521473734790542&tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.50ffadb7f70e
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Let’s see.
Answer is both? No sense rehashing the character issue, we pretty much all see the bipartisan light on that point 🙂
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Yep. One is the briber; the other is the bribed.
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